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  • alabamarob
    MVP
    • Nov 2010
    • 3343

    #1

    The roster update greatly improved the Pick and roll defense

    The defenders will now sink down from the corner and sometimes the wing. This will greatly improve the amount of points in the paint that the AI has been allowing.

    They do not rotate off of poor shooters first and then off of good shooters as a last resort. I wonder if this can be added to the patch

    But I have played 2 or 3 quarters were I was scoring less then 10 points in the paint.

    Appreciate it Czar. Didn’t know they could do that in a game update.
    Last edited by alabamarob; 11-19-2020, 05:02 PM.
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  • ch46647
    MVP
    • Aug 2006
    • 3519

    #2
    Re: The roster update greatly improved the Pick and roll defense

    Agreed. I noticed this as well after playing one quarter this morning with the roster update.

    It was my understanding patch #2 would fix the PnR, but maybe Czar found a way to sneak it in a roster update.

    Regardless, thank you!

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    • alabamarob
      MVP
      • Nov 2010
      • 3343

      #3
      Re: The roster update greatly improved the Pick and roll defense

      Originally posted by ch46647
      Agreed. I noticed this as well after playing one quarter this morning with the roster update.

      It was my understanding patch #2 would fix the PnR, but maybe Czar found a way to sneak it in a roster update.

      Regardless, thank you!
      I saw your post to made me even look into it. So thanks to you. The only problem I have seen so fat is that they don’t help off of the worst shooter. I put Clint Capela on the wing, and they rotate off of a shooter in the corner. I would like the help to always come from Capela.
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      • dfsJunkie
        Pro
        • Apr 2015
        • 855

        #4
        Re: The roster update greatly improved the Pick and roll defense

        Originally posted by alabamarob
        I saw your post to made me even look into it. So thanks to you. The only problem I have seen so fat is that they don’t help off of the worst shooter. I put Clint Capela on the wing, and they rotate off of a shooter in the corner. I would like the help to always come from Capela.
        Did you try against multiple teams? Just curious if better defensive units/players react differently?

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        • CujoMatty
          Member of Rush Nation
          • Oct 2007
          • 5446

          #5
          Re: The roster update greatly improved the Pick and roll defense

          Originally posted by alabamarob
          The defenders will now sink down from the corner and sometimes the wing. This will greatly improve the amount of points in the paint that the AI has been allowing.

          I have not played enough to see if they rotate off of poor shooters first and then off of good shooters as a last resort.

          But I have played 2 or 3 quarters were I was scoring less then 10 points in the paint.

          Appreciate it Czar. Didn’t know they could do that in a game update.
          Seems to be a lot better with my ongoing myNBA save with the original roster as well.
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          • tyberious4now
            Tiger Paw
            • Nov 2004
            • 759

            #6
            Re: The roster update greatly improved the Pick and roll defense

            Thank goodness it is much much better!!!!!!!!

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            • strosdood
              MVP
              • Nov 2020
              • 1155

              #7
              Re: The roster update greatly improved the Pick and roll defense

              Damn I’m glad to see this post lol


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              • CujoMatty
                Member of Rush Nation
                • Oct 2007
                • 5446

                #8
                Re: The roster update greatly improved the Pick and roll defense

                I just tested against New Orleans who for some reason before today was the worst I had found with the issue. They were the ones I was playing in the video I shared when I could exploit the defense every possession.

                I just tested with the new roster and It was definitely massively better.

                I then tested with my old roster I had saved and it was the same massive improvement again against New Orleans.

                They must have snuck it in with the content update I saw when I got the return to menu for update prompt. I'm historically very skeptical of these types of claims because a lot of time it's the ol' placebo effect but I'm positive they improved the issue.

                Another seemingly awesome by-product of the fix is more fouls because the bigs switch now. I still havent seen enough to my liking but I think it might be better.
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                • EccentricMeat
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 3206

                  #9
                  Re: The roster update greatly improved the Pick and roll defense

                  Wow, they actually fixed the glitch where a simple setup dribble away from the screener and then escaping into the pick would dummy out the hedge defender and he would run away from the driving lane.

                  I was legit ready to put the game down until the issue was resolved, and they fixed it immediately. I'm impressed. PnR defense has new issues (like the hedge defender completely ignoring the dribbler after the pick as he over-focuses on the screener) but at least now that defender is in the way of the easy drive and will react if you take a shot.
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                  • The 24th Letter
                    ERA
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 39438

                    #10
                    Re: The roster update greatly improved the Pick and roll defense

                    Seems like rotations are a lot sharper period...anyone else noticing this?

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                    • richmo
                      Almighty 2k Paper Champ
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 711

                      #11
                      Re: The roster update greatly improved the Pick and roll defense

                      Anyone mind getting a few clips to demonstrate?

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                      • sperlz_99
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 149

                        #12
                        Re: The roster update greatly improved the Pick and roll defense

                        Edit update seems to have hit the uk at midnight and actually seems to have had a good impact on pick and roll generally
                        Last edited by sperlz_99; 11-19-2020, 09:16 PM.

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                        • Bexthelegend
                          Pro
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 539

                          #13
                          Re: The roster update greatly improved the Pick and roll defense

                          Originally posted by sperlz_99
                          It hasn't fixed anything really. It's basically fixed one thing and broken another.

                          So all you have to do now is get a good 3 point shooter on the ball and stand on the edge of the 3 point line. Call a screen when the screen is set you move slightly to the side and hit an open 3. It works every single time. The help defense is just staying static and makes no attempt to help to stop the 3 point shot so you just get a free 3 point shot every time guaranteed.

                          Just as bad as the previous pick n roll glitch if you ask me
                          Its game development in a nutshell. You fix one issue and it generates another one unintentionally

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                          • jk31
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 2673

                            #14
                            Re: The roster update greatly improved the Pick and roll defense

                            Is this on current or old gen?

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                            • rudyjuly2
                              Cade Cunningham
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 14803

                              #15
                              Re: The roster update greatly improved the Pick and roll defense

                              On PS5 I have played two games with the new rosters and I don’t see any improvement in PNR defence. And help defence wasn’t better either. It can still be abused imo.

                              Personally I think the players being screened need to be able to get off screens a bit easier and drop coverage still needs to be a lot better. And on top of that it’s rare for me to see a third defender rotate to help.

                              This is on All-Star so maybe it’s different. I do have help Defense and awareness cranked to 100 in the sliders to try and help.

                              Maybe in the future 2K can add sliders for screen effectiveness or something. Not sure how to fix this ourselves.
                              Last edited by rudyjuly2; 11-20-2020, 08:11 AM.

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