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  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52689

    #1

    After playing through a complete season of MLB '21, The Show/SDS delivers once again

    **THESE IMPRESSIONS ARE FROM THE PS4 VERSION OF THE GAME**

    After playing through a complete season from the first pitch of Spring Training to the last out of game 162 (I missed the playoffs ), SDS/MLB '21 delivers another MVP performance.

    When it was announced prior to release that carryover saves wouldn't be a part of MLB '21, I wasn't so sure I was going to pick up, yet alone play, MLB '21. I was 13 years into a carryover save that I started on MLB '16 and had grown very fond of my virtual universe/franchise. The Marlins were world beaters, the Yankees hadn't made the playoffs, Mike Matheny was still my manager (Cardinals). How could I give up and walk away from something that I had put so much time and effort in, such as adding real life prospects, real life draft prospects several years down the line, offspring of past MLB greats? How could I walk away after playing every pitch of every game for 13 glorious virtual franchise seasons?

    Well, as the MLB '21 info rolled out a few nuggets caught my attention, most notably the changes to fielding. Then the BETA released and I got to experience first hand just how significant the fielding changes were (manual fielding player), along with other changes and I was sold on picking up MLB '21.

    Still, even when launch day arrived and I jumped into the new game with a new franchise (still turns my stomach), I kept '20's game data loaded, ready for me to get through the "new" of '21 and say, you know what, I want my old franchise back. But it never happened. I loaded in my roster updates (adding prospects etc...) and away to Spring Training I went with the real life 2021 Cardinals. And as the pitches, innings, and games passed, I realized there was no way I could go back to '20, even though I was missing "my team".

    MLB '21 on the field delivered that experience needed for me to go all in, really get into my franchise and not look back. The fielding alone was the hook, but the subtle changes to pitching and hitting just made it impossible for me to try and go back and play '20.

    The new animations in fielding along with the cleanup of legacy issues (OF not picking up the ball anyone?) made for a smoother experience that really separated it from its predecessor. The better triggered animations lead to more "realistic" looking plays. It helps every game, every situation that plays out, feel unique/organic and not a series of animations triggering to produce an outcome.

    One of my biggest pet peeves in '20 and prior was the fact that check swings were too easy. Or at least the game rarely in my experience rang you up for going too far around. Seemed as if 90% or more of my check swings, and CPU, in '20 were ruled in the favor of the hitter. In '21, that is no longer the case. I absolutely LOVE the fact that I have to be mindful of trying to check my swing, or at least think I have to be mindful. It still seems random at times, or least the swing feedback info doesn't match up with the call, but in real life its almost a coin flip whether an ump will say yes he went or no he held up, and that feels to be the case in '21. I dunno, it feels "right".

    The combination of changes to hitting, pitching, and fielding makes '21 feel like a more organic experience. It makes game 162 feel like its own "game" versus the game from Opening Day. And that is a thing of beauty and something that SDS has done very well the past few years in my humble 2 cent opinion.

    Take the on field gameplay and couple that with a franchise mode that has a new foundation and from the stream a new vision, and I will be happily playing '21 until '22 comes out. And if '22 doesn't offer carryover saves or is a significant enough jump in gameplay and franchise, then I could easily see myself playing '21 for another calendar year, much like I played '16 over '17 years ago.

    I honestly didn't think I would be getting '21, especially on the PS4, but I am so happy that I did. MLB '21 isn't going into the hall of fame, but it is a MVP caliber game that as a fan of the series I will look back on it as the year that changed fielding for the better, and hopefully was the blueprint for bigger and better things to come in franchise mode.
    Last edited by countryboy; 06-21-2021, 08:58 AM. Reason: Fixed title
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  • KnightTemplar
    MVP
    • Feb 2017
    • 3282

    #2
    Re: After playing through a complete season of MLB '21, The Show/SDS delivers once ag

    All-in-all this game really is good. I marvel at how they get all these moving parts to even work. Can’t be easy. I’m playing on the PS5, don’t have my great PS4 roster (and the PS5 vault is sorely lacking, imo), but that’s okay. I’ll jump back into 20 after I’m done with this season, then it will be time for ‘22, but 21 IS solid.

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    • DarthRambo
      MVP
      • Mar 2008
      • 6630

      #3
      Re: After playing through a complete season of MLB '21, The Show/SDS delivers once ag

      You got me about to try manual Fielding now. Well assisted fielding anyway lol. What fielding aids settings do you use? They are foreign to me as I've always used Auto cause I know I'm gonna screw up multiple times. But if you're saying it's good I wanna give it another try.

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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52689

        #4
        Re: After playing through a complete season of MLB '21, The Show/SDS delivers once ag

        Originally posted by IrishSalsa
        You got me about to try manual Fielding now. Well assisted fielding anyway lol. What fielding aids settings do you use? They are foreign to me as I've always used Auto cause I know I'm gonna screw up multiple times. But if you're saying it's good I wanna give it another try.

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        I use BUTTONS for throwing and the old fielding marker that is the baseball (can't think of what its called and not on game right now)

        Outside of that, no fielding aids. The off the wall ribbon is annoying...LOL
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        • DarthRambo
          MVP
          • Mar 2008
          • 6630

          #5
          Re: After playing through a complete season of MLB '21, The Show/SDS delivers once ag

          I think I may turn on auto throwing at first so I'm only worried about getting the ball and not screwing up throwing to wrong base cause I'm in a hurry lol. But there's drifting ball and track ball as options. Drift ball is what you have then, cool. Both of these are definitely new this year. Track ball sounds cool but harder than the other one. I definitely need the auto jump and dive though lol

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          Last edited by DarthRambo; 06-20-2021, 03:41 PM.
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          • Qball667
            Rookie
            • Jan 2018
            • 11

            #6
            Re: After playing through a complete season of MLB '21, The Show/SDS delivers once ag

            Originally posted by IrishSalsa
            I think I may turn on auto throwing at first so I'm only worried about getting the ball and not screwing up throwing to wrong base cause I'm in a hurry lol. But there's drifting ball and track ball as options. Drift ball is what you have then, cool. Both of these are definitely new this year. Track ball sounds cool but harder than the other one. I definitely need the auto jump and dive though lol

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            I believe there is also an aide that tells you what preferred base to throw to
            Last edited by Qball667; 06-20-2021, 05:11 PM.

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            • baseballguy99
              Pro
              • Mar 2019
              • 929

              #7
              Re: After playing through a complete season of MLB '21, The Show/SDS delivers once ag

              Country do you still use meter legend pitching? I use pinpoint and lead the league in fewest hits against... do you find them challenging on default legend ?

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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52689

                #8
                Re: After playing through a complete season of MLB '21, The Show/SDS delivers once ag

                Originally posted by baseballguy99
                Country do you still use meter legend pitching? I use pinpoint and lead the league in fewest hits against... do you find them challenging on default legend ?


                Yes still meter on default legend

                And yes they are challenging


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                • Caulfield
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 10986

                  #9
                  Re: After playing through a complete season of MLB '21, The Show/SDS delivers once ag

                  I haven't quite finished a full season yet but it's my opinion not only is 21 worth every penny I spent in my purchase (well over 1000 pennies for those keeping score) but also if Freddy Lindstrom belongs in the HoF, so does 21.
                  I have the ps4 version but if I had the create a stadium, I'm positive I'd spend more hours on the PlayStation, but probably less time actually playing.

                  year in and year out, while I have minor complaints about the snails pace improvements, nonetheless every year it does improve, no matter how so slightly. but my biggest complaint is the default roster. what I wish there would be is actually several rosters hardwired into the game.
                  like take 21, for example, there would be the most up-to-date roster at launch, but there would also be a couple other rosters to choose from, one being an Opening Day roster for the 2020 season and another roster for the end of the 2020 season, obviously minus any players who retired and couldn't be legally included in 21.
                  I spend waay too much time every year reworking rosters to my admittedly finicky tastes, it delays my playing time. I know that's on me but it is what it is and where I stand. I already know once I complete my Orioles '21 season I will retweak the roster before I start either a White Sox or Rockies season
                  (or hopefully start a true franchise with Atlanta if we hear carry-over saves will resume w/22)
                  :fingers crossed:
                  but aside from that, once I actually get rosters where I want them, it's on like Diddy Kong
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                  • DarthRambo
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 6630

                    #10
                    Re: After playing through a complete season of MLB '21, The Show/SDS delivers once ag

                    ^^^ Download Cy's Tru Sim rosters. They are fantastic!

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                    • Bgrd1080
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 520

                      #11
                      Re: After playing through a complete season of MLB '21, The Show/SDS delivers once ag

                      Playing on PS5 and I am in May of 2022 with the Twins. Playing 1 game from every series. This is the furthest I have gotten into a franchise with MLB since 2017. Idk if its the PS5 or the game itself but it is so smooth and the new animations and mechanics make it feel like a new game and a lot less robotic if that makes sense. The trade logic still leaves a lot to be desired, TB refuses to keep Wander Franco.... But that's my only real gripe. I am enjoying the game a lot this year. The fielding and pitching changes alone are enough to warrant my purchase. Well done SDS.
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                      • kinsmen7
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 1661

                        #12
                        Re: After playing through a complete season of MLB '21, The Show/SDS delivers once ag

                        Originally posted by Bgrd1080
                        Playing on PS5 and I am in May of 2022 with the Twins. Playing 1 game from every series. This is the furthest I have gotten into a franchise with MLB since 2017. Idk if its the PS5 or the game itself but it is so smooth and the new animations and mechanics make it feel like a new game and a lot less robotic if that makes sense. The trade logic still leaves a lot to be desired, TB refuses to keep Wander Franco.... But that's my only real gripe. I am enjoying the game a lot this year. The fielding and pitching changes alone are enough to warrant my purchase. Well done SDS.
                        The Wander thing kept happening in my 20 until I moved a couple of their other SS's...My understanding is that it's just the (poor) CPU AI trying to balance rosters. Atlanta was doing the same thing with Waters because they had an overabundance of CF's. A number of other teams with deep prospect pools at certain positions seem to do it as well, unfortunately. Unfortunate to hear that it still happens in 21, but I suppose it makes a weird sort of sense given that the game is likely only tested with default rosters.
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                        • DarthRambo
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 6630

                          #13
                          Re: After playing through a complete season of MLB '21, The Show/SDS delivers once ag

                          Originally posted by IrishSalsa
                          I think I may turn on auto throwing at first so I'm only worried about getting the ball and not screwing up throwing to wrong base cause I'm in a hurry lol. But there's drifting ball and track ball as options. Drift ball is what you have then, cool. Both of these are definitely new this year. Track ball sounds cool but harder than the other one. I definitely need the auto jump and dive though lol

                          Sent from my SM-G996U using Operation Sports mobile app
                          So I am actually digging the new fielding after playing a few games with it on. I am using the drift ball option, wall ribbon off, and I do like the option (can't remember what it's called) that puts that red line out showing best route to the ball. That alone makes all the difference for me. I've only blundered once and it led to a triple but getting the hang of it and it's actually pretty good.

                          I usually do try manual fielding ever year but soon turn back to auto. But MLB 21 definitely has the best fielding the game has ever had. Makes game even more fun to play now so kudos to SDS for making it enjoyable and much easier to use.

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                          • Trammel2Whitaker
                            Just started!
                            • May 2021
                            • 3

                            #14
                            Re: After playing through a complete season of MLB '21, The Show/SDS delivers once ag

                            @countryboy

                            Newbie here, what is your favorite version of The Show? This current one? Thank you

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                            • countryboy
                              Growing pains
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 52689

                              #15
                              Re: After playing through a complete season of MLB '21, The Show/SDS delivers once ag

                              Originally posted by Trammel2Whitaker
                              @countryboy

                              Newbie here, what is your favorite version of The Show? This current one? Thank you
                              MLB '12

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