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Quote: Originally Posted by Aestis

OK here goes. Skip to the bottom if you just care about the conclusion. Time differences aren't necessary as an initial test on 10 yd splits: a few milliseconds matter more there and are less reliable. Instead, Test #1 was simply a True/False test to measure whether acceleration is impacted meaningfully by Speed Threshold, as observed by a 10 yd sprint. Player A: 90 spd, 99 accel, all other relevant attributes same as below (including height) Player B: 90 spd, 50 accel TEST - Franchise Practice Mode - Line up both WRs side by side, aligned even with each other, both running hot-routed streaks - Observe where the two players are relative to each other 10 yds downfield - Will measure on 5 & 95 threshold levels. If threshold impacts acceleration instead of speed, we should see different results between these two thresholds despite spd of the players being the same. RESULTS 5 Threshold As you can see the 90 spd 99 accel player makes it 10 yds downfield and is already 5 yds ahead of the 90 spd 50 accel player, i.e. runs that 10 yd sprint 2X faster: Now let's look at 95 threshold and see if acceleration rating is effectively ignored. As you can see the screenshot is effectively identical. This alone is pretty strong evidence that acceleration is not impacted whatsoever by Speed Threshold. The 99 accel player still makes it 10 yds downfield in the time the 50 accel player has only made it 5 yds. 2X faster, same as 5 threshold. In fact, if I'm being truly honest, I cannot recall which of these sshots was 5 and which was 95! In short, I see no threat here that higher speed thresholds make the acceleration attribute irrelevant or minimize it in any perceivable way. To be safe I also ran this test in Exhibition Practice Mode, just on the off chance something about Franchise Mode changed something. I got the same results. The two sshots were indistinguishable. Longer Run: I also ran a test (no sshots but can do as a follow up if people like) about what happens 40+ yds downfield on 95 threshold. I was curious if, say, OK perhaps 40 yds downfield 95 threshold measures well between a WR/OL, but what if it's way too tight among two faster players, in this case 90 spd vs 99 spd. That's a 9 speed difference, the approximate equivalent of a 4.25 time vs a 4.48 time at the combine. Large difference! I think most Madden guys would assume the 4.25 guy should be 5-8 yds ahead by the time they're 40-50 yds downfield, right? Here is how the math breaks down. The 4.48 guy is running 8.93 yds per second, on avg. So, 4.25 seconds into his run, he should be roughly 37.95 yds downfield. In other words, the gap between a 99 spd guy and a 90 spd guy is only 2 yards 40 yds downfield. In reality it's not quite that simple as release at the start of a 40 yd dash is slower than the final 5-10 yds, obviously, and in reality the 4.25 freak athlete probably also accelerates faster than the 4.48 guy. But you get the overall point: even a 9 pt spd difference in Madden translates to a couple of yds. I compared a 99 spd 99 accel player with a 90 spd 99 accel player to see how this benchmarked against the above approximate math. At 95 threshold, this tested pretty well: 10 yds downfield, they were neck & neck as you would generally expect from two fast players with 99 acceleration. 40-50 yds downfield, the 99 player was about 2.5 yds ahead. Again that will 'feel' too tight to your average Madden player, but it's actually about right. IRL 2.5 yds is the difference between an easy catch and having to fight for the ball. Conclusion: I can find no evidence that Speed Threshold impacts acceleration instead of Speed, in fact evidence points to Speed being impacted. I still feel good about 95 threshold. Look, experimentation is by design written in pencil, so if someone can show with observable evidence why 95 performs poorly at XYZ, then please do. I wasn't sure how the acceleration test would go myself. But after running these, I'm more confident in 95 threshold as the sweet spot for speed difference than I was even before. Let me know if anyone thinks I'm still missing something!

Good stuff. I'm sold.

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