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  • Jagsfan24
    MVP
    • Mar 2016
    • 1864

    #1

    Tired of the 4 week injuries

    What injury slider are you guys using where you don’t see multiple torn labrum injuries? I like seeing injuries happen but every game I lose a player, usually a good starter on my team to a torn labrum or some 4 week injury and it’s annoying.

    I’ve had the slider at 30 and 25 and even 20 and still at least get one 4 week injury a game
  • tinpanalley
    MVP
    • Apr 2006
    • 3401

    #2
    Re: Tired of the 4 week injuries

    This is EXACTLY why I play injuries off in every sports game. I have never, not once, in 25 years seen a game that can reproduce realistic injuries in terms of their duration or severity.

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    • Jagsfan24
      MVP
      • Mar 2016
      • 1864

      #3
      Re: Tired of the 4 week injuries

      Originally posted by tinpanalley
      This is EXACTLY why I play injuries off in every sports game. I have never, not once, in 25 years seen a game that can reproduce realistic injuries in terms of their duration or severity.
      I don’t mind seeing injuries but I never see like hamstring or just injuries that may just last a week. I only see 4 week injuries, mostly all the time and it’s multiple times.

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      • tinpanalley
        MVP
        • Apr 2006
        • 3401

        #4
        Re: Tired of the 4 week injuries

        Originally posted by Jagsfan24
        I don’t mind seeing injuries but I never see like hamstring or just injuries that may just last a week. I only see 4 week injuries, mostly all the time and it’s multiple times.
        You put up with the game wrongly and randomly getting guys injured or you turn them off. I turn them off, other people leave them on. I dont have the time or interest in seeing a guy who never gets injured in real life having a 4 week injury.

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        • Momoney168
          Pro
          • Aug 2021
          • 584

          #5
          Re: Tired of the 4 week injuries

          Originally posted by Jagsfan24
          What injury slider are you guys using where you don’t see multiple torn labrum injuries? I like seeing injuries happen but every game I lose a player, usually a good starter on my team to a torn labrum or some 4 week injury and it’s annoying.



          I’ve had the slider at 30 and 25 and even 20 and still at least get one 4 week injury a game


          51. I get a decent mix. And the torn labrum ranges from 4-9 weeks.

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          • kennylc321
            Pro
            • Aug 2018
            • 943

            #6
            Re: Tired of the 4 week injuries

            Yeah... these torn labrums and bruised sternums are definitely annoying. And it's the OL who get 90% of the injuries.

            But my biggest issue with injuries is the fact that QBs are invincible. But I worry EA sees that then next year, QBs get injured every game

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            • Richie71
              Pro
              • Sep 2014
              • 500

              #7
              Re: Tired of the 4 week injuries

              Injuries is something that needs a significant overall.

              I"m ok with the higher injury rate related to contact and collisions, and it's impact on the OL and DL.
              There needs to be more variety of type and length. The dice roll for type seems stuck on torn labrum.


              The changes need to be:
              Injury rating being more meaningful to differentiate between the never injured, and the rarely healthy. For older players especially, the injury likelyhood should be the fall off in those later years, rather then the skill drop off.
              More depth to longer term but minor injuries that can hinder a player but still play through. Right now, that's too extreme. The rare cases it comes up it's too extreme.

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              • John_Elway
                Pro
                • Aug 2005
                • 523

                #8
                Re: Tired of the 4 week injuries

                I use 26 for my injury slider with Fatigue at 55. Not really sure if Fatigue and Injury work together or not.

                I see a couple injuries in each game but alot of times players are out for 1 quarter or a few plays, so that seems pretty realistic to me. I also seem a mix of injuries on CPU teams ranging from 1 week all the way up to 27 weeks and on IR.

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                • Mackrel829
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 1261

                  #9
                  Re: Tired of the 4 week injuries

                  Originally posted by Richie71
                  Injuries is something that needs a significant overall.

                  I"m ok with the higher injury rate related to contact and collisions, and it's impact on the OL and DL.
                  There needs to be more variety of type and length. The dice roll for type seems stuck on torn labrum.


                  The changes need to be:
                  Injury rating being more meaningful to differentiate between the never injured, and the rarely healthy. For older players especially, the injury likelyhood should be the fall off in those later years, rather then the skill drop off.
                  More depth to longer term but minor injuries that can hinder a player but still play through. Right now, that's too extreme. The rare cases it comes up it's too extreme.
                  As a franchise player exclusively, I'd love to see more depth and realism with injuries, but I very much doubt it will be something that is addressed.

                  We all know that MUT is far more popular than franchise, and I would imagine that even a large number of franchise players simply want their best players to be on the field. People want to play with their stars, and having them severely impacted by injury, whilst realistic, would not be the experience that most people are looking to have unfortunately.

                  In an ideal world, they'd make it deeper anyway since injuries can simply be turned off if people don't want to deal with them, but I don't think they will.

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                  • Jagsfan24
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 1864

                    #10
                    Re: Tired of the 4 week injuries

                    Originally posted by John_Elway
                    I use 26 for my injury slider with Fatigue at 55. Not really sure if Fatigue and Injury work together or not.

                    I see a couple injuries in each game but alot of times players are out for 1 quarter or a few plays, so that seems pretty realistic to me. I also seem a mix of injuries on CPU teams ranging from 1 week all the way up to 27 weeks and on IR.
                    I would not mind seeing some players getting banged up for a quarter or even just the game, it’s just annoying at least for me when I get multiple injuries a game and it’s mostly my o lineman, with torn labrum’s.

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                    • Httc4L
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2022
                      • 13

                      #11
                      Re: Tired of the 4 week injuries

                      On my previous franchise I went about 9 seasons before I had a Qb injury. My starter took a sack and was hurt for 7 weeks. I actually liked it…lol

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                      • BadAssHskr
                        XSX
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 3542

                        #12
                        Re: Tired of the 4 week injuries

                        suffered 2 labrum injuries on my defense last night, 4 weeks each.
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                        • Mattanite
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2015
                          • 1716

                          #13
                          Re: Tired of the 4 week injuries

                          Originally posted by kennylc321
                          Yeah... these torn labrums and bruised sternums are definitely annoying. And it's the OL who get 90% of the injuries.

                          But my biggest issue with injuries is the fact that QBs are invincible. But I worry EA sees that then next year, QBs get injured every game
                          That's because EA didn't scale tackle injuries up vs impact block injuries and there are multiple blocks on a play but usually only one tackle. QBs can get injured albeit rarely as a passer, but more likely if designated a runner.
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                          • Mattanite
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 1716

                            #14
                            Re: Tired of the 4 week injuries

                            Originally posted by John_Elway
                            I use 26 for my injury slider with Fatigue at 55. Not really sure if Fatigue and Injury work together or not.

                            I see a couple injuries in each game but alot of times players are out for 1 quarter or a few plays, so that seems pretty realistic to me. I also seem a mix of injuries on CPU teams ranging from 1 week all the way up to 27 weeks and on IR.
                            In game, fatigue and injury slider work together. Out of game neither work (like for CPU teams during sim).
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                            • Mattanite
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 1716

                              #15
                              Re: Tired of the 4 week injuries

                              Originally posted by Jagsfan24
                              What injury slider are you guys using where you don’t see multiple torn labrum injuries? I like seeing injuries happen but every game I lose a player, usually a good starter on my team to a torn labrum or some 4 week injury and it’s annoying.

                              I’ve had the slider at 30 and 25 and even 20 and still at least get one 4 week injury a game
                              Think more positively, an injury is the chance for a franchise defining breakout story for the backup!

                              Injuries are also a good way to vary the dynamic dev development system as less players will make their 12 game minimum if injured a couple of times.

                              You need to scale the injury slider in game with the quarter length. We used injury slider 50 with 10min Qs and 16sec runoff (typically 60snaps per starter) and that was still 20-30% under the NFL average for injuries/rate. OL will suffer more injuries and WR/TE will get injured more on run plays rather than tackles just because how the game is coded.

                              If you have more injuries it's also a great time to increase the XP sliders a little so you get players to peak faster but might not be available to play, so depth matters (next man up).
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