EA Sports PGA TOUR Impressions (Console)

[CujoMatty]

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I don't have too much hope for it being addressed soon, but they do seem to have quietly addressed the above/below feet not mattering much so I guess anything is possible. It's a lot better now, if the ball is 10 degrees above me on a 200 yd shot it goes like 20-30 yards left which it should. Not sure if it's enough on short shots though, and we are still prevented from getting extreme 20+ degree lies because the game seems to move the ball away from those. We need more stance animations lol.

One more thing on the rough, it does feel like I have less control of my shot coming out of it and it's easier to mess it up, so there is that penalty at least. If only the lie penalties could be penal enough as well.

They def ninja'd that in. Last night I was playing and I had a perfect swing and the ball took off right. I was like wth??? I went back with the share feature and saw the ball was well below my feet. Never really had to account for that before.

[kehlis]

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I like the EA Play suggestion. Thanks!

For sure the best you can do. I think it was assumed by another that my impression implied that the game was too easy. I just want to clarify that until that was brought up as a response no one had mentioned difficulty at all.

I haven’t had issues making it hard, just that I see no definition based on where you hit it. Other than pot bunkers, there isn’t a single lie that alters your opportunity to hit the green from your tee shot (that does NOT mean I do it - it just isn’t because of the lie).


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[Freakywwe]

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Not seeing it in there. If anyone wants to take a quick look and sees it, i'd appreciate it. Maybe I missed the window.

Honestly, should look something like this for any EA game that has a trial available:



If not try restarting your console or double checking you got an EA play subscription, it should show there

[jbd345]

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For sure the best you can do. I think it was assumed by another that my impression implied that the game was too easy. I just want to clarify that until that was brought up as a response no one had mentioned difficulty at all.

I haven’t had issues making it hard, just that I see no definition based on where you hit it. Other than pot bunkers, there isn’t a single lie that alters your opportunity to hit the green from your tee shot (that does NOT mean I do it - it just isn’t because of the lie).


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Which is why I put “that’s why patches exist” in mine, but you turned my post around as a weird shot at you.

[ChicagoChris]

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Honestly, should look something like this for any EA game that has a trial available:



If not try restarting your console or double checking you got an EA play subscription, it should show there

Thanks...a restart fixed it

[kehlis]

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Which is why I put “that’s why patches exist” in mine, but you turned my post around as a weird shot at you.

IDK man, you quoted the post that quoted mine so I don't think it was a stretch to assume it was a reaction to the post I made which made no mention whatsoever of difficulty.

[kehlis]

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First - Just want to say, this post was well written so please don't feel slighted that I cut the bottom of it out. It is all stuff I agree with so for the sanctity of the thread, just wanted to remove it.

Also - I've been pretty quiet for awhile so I didn't come to the thread just to knock on it. I only came to respond to Chris as he was looking for recommendations and he's set up with the trial which is a win/win for everyone.

But, since the below was a response to my post I'll respond in short.

I feel like the statements "there is no penalty for missing fairways" need to be more clarified because that's oversimplfying the issue and not true in most cases.

I personally haven't seen it, just haven't. Would love to find a way to get there but not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm playing on the hardest difficulties and a 7 iron from the rough goes as far as a 7 iron from the fairway for me. Glad you've had a different experience and please understand that I'm not doubting you, I'm just not seeing it myself.

From my experience and testing there is penalty for missing fairways, but many may not see it because 1) it's harder to miss fairways, and 2) the good lie penalties in this game are for long irons, hybrids, and woods, which you'd have to miss the fairway on a long par 4 or par 5 to notice.

I promise - I've had no problem missing fairways lol. I would argue that there probably is a problem if you only notice it with long irons but I'll leave that alone for now because that actually isn't my issue when I say lie means nothing.

It also depends on the course, I've found rough lie penalties on Bay Hill and Wolf Creek so far whereas Augusta National does have literally zero lie penalty (that has to be unintentional, right? the second cut looks short in-game but how on earth can you justify that, there has to be SOME lie penalty).

No doubt that different courses yield different results. St. Andrews is infuriating and I'm with you, I doubt it is intentional.

But I'm glad you brought up Augusta. When people talk about lie's and not having to make adjustments, it's not just the penalty in the rough that bothers me.

Augusta is a course where there is no flat lie. The ball is almost always either above your feet or below your feet. In this game, that doesn't matter. If you're in the fairway and the ball is above your feet, you don't need to adjust for it. I learned that the hard way. You can go straight at
the pin regardless of stance. For ME, it just ruins it.

Fairway bunkers are no hazard. You don't have to club up at all. Just use the same club you would as if you were in the fairway.



Again, originally just giving my opinion to Chris, not meant to spark more debate. It's just my opinion on the matter.

[AlanBer]

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Augusta is a course where there is no flat lie. The ball is almost always either above your feet or below your feet. In this game, that doesn't matter. If you're in the fairway and the ball is above your feet, you don't need to adjust for it. I learned that the hard way. You can go straight at
the pin regardless of stance. For ME, it just ruins it.

Fairway bunkers are no hazard. You don't have to club up at all. Just use the same club you would as if you were in the fairway.

The stuff with the lie-- above or below the ball-- has absolutely no effect, I agree. This is a problem.

A few times, I believe, I sensed the lie (above or below) did have an effect. The way I remember it, this happened when I was hitting a 3-Wood from the fairway or rough.

[Dawgfan1]

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I personally haven't seen it, just haven't. Would love to find a way to get there but not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm playing on the hardest difficulties and a 7 iron from the rough goes as far as a 7 iron from the fairway for me. Glad you've had a different experience and please understand that I'm not doubting you, I'm just not seeing it myself.

What courses did you mostly play? The number of courses I've played full rounds on with my hard difficulty is limited, I wouldn't be surprised if links courses like St. Andrews and Bandon Dunes have these lower to totally zero lie penalties in addition to Augusta.

I promise - I've had no problem missing fairways lol. I would argue that there probably is a problem if you only notice it with long irons but I'll leave that alone for now because that actually isn't my issue when I say lie means nothing.

I totally agree, I think the penalties should be fair and realistic for all clubs. I just don't think we should say it's bad for all clubs when I've seen and there's been videos with good lie penalties for 5 irons and longer, don't want to give EA (if they are listening to this) inaccurate information. And for courses where lie penalties are minimal/non-existent even for those clubs, it's probably a course-specific issue.

But I'm glad you brought up Augusta. When people talk about lie's and not having to make adjustments, it's not just the penalty in the rough that bothers me.

Augusta is a course where there is no flat lie. The ball is almost always either above your feet or below your feet. In this game, that doesn't matter. If you're in the fairway and the ball is above your feet, you don't need to adjust for it. I learned that the hard way. You can go straight at
the pin regardless of stance. For ME, it just ruins it.

Fairway bunkers are no hazard. You don't have to club up at all. Just use the same club you would as if you were in the fairway.

I can agree with that. I think EA did address the below/above feet in a previous patch to make it present when it wasn't before. I don't know enough about golf irl to judge but it does feel like the bunkers, fairway in particular, aren't punishing enough and bunkers in general don't account for the ball being plugged in the sand at all. And it would be nice to have downhill/uphill lies affect our shots, I doubt it's present in this game.

But to go back to a previous test that was done, I went to the 13th at Augusta and looked at what the 2nd shot lie would do. I had a 5.1 degree above feet lie, 2 mph NE wind relative to my shot, roughly 215 yd to the pin, and using the full shot arc it appears a straight shot would take my ball 4-5 yards to the left due to the above feet lie. I don't know if that's realistic or sufficient (whenever I played golf irl my shots would never be consistent with a slope lie lol), my guess would be not and it should be closer to 8-10 yards, but I'll give that info for more knowledgable minds to assess. Slope lies do affect our shots now, but it might still not be enough and need further tuning.

[golfnut67]

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First - Just want to say, this post was well written so please don't feel slighted that I cut the bottom of it out. It is all stuff I agree with so for the sanctity of the thread, just wanted to remove it.

Also - I've been pretty quiet for awhile so I didn't come to the thread just to knock on it. I only came to respond to Chris as he was looking for recommendations and he's set up with the trial which is a win/win for everyone.

But, since the below was a response to my post I'll respond in short.

I personally haven't seen it, just haven't. Would love to find a way to get there but not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm playing on the hardest difficulties and a 7 iron from the rough goes as far as a 7 iron from the fairway for me. Glad you've had a different experience and please understand that I'm not doubting you, I'm just not seeing it myself.

I promise - I've had no problem missing fairways lol. I would argue that there probably is a problem if you only notice it with long irons but I'll leave that alone for now because that actually isn't my issue when I say lie means nothing.



No doubt that different courses yield different results. St. Andrews is infuriating and I'm with you, I doubt it is intentional.

But I'm glad you brought up Augusta. When people talk about lie's and not having to make adjustments, it's not just the penalty in the rough that bothers me.

Augusta is a course where there is no flat lie. The ball is almost always either above your feet or below your feet. In this game, that doesn't matter. If you're in the fairway and the ball is above your feet, you don't need to adjust for it. I learned that the hard way. You can go straight at
the pin regardless of stance. For ME, it just ruins it.

Fairway bunkers are no hazard. You don't have to club up at all. Just use the same club you would as if you were in the fairway.



Again, originally just giving my opinion to Chris, not meant to spark more debate. It's just my opinion on the matter.

Not sure why you're being so apologetic, you are exactly right. It's not even debatable...there are no meaningful penalties for being in the rough or sand in this game. I'm confident they will tune it and fix some of the other major issues we've all pointed out. If they don't...well...I don't want to visualize that scenario.

I can live with wonky oversized clubs and putters half the size of your shoes, and stances that point the toe of the putter towards the sky (I'm looking at you, Rory 2015!).

But this stuff, they have to fix.

[Freakywwe]

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Welp, my game is broken. Finished a round in career last night and the game froze on the career menu… now it freezes whenever I try to start my fourth round or skip the event… no crashes, game just locks up and the sound goes away after a few seconds.

Super unfortunate, anybody else had this? Couldn’t even tell you what I did to make it happen…

[PhantomPain]

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Just wanted to state that as bad as the camera angles are, I have mine set to follow but I also have the ball tracer on since I can't see where it goes. In doing so, it's not bad as it reminds me of the rounds on tv where they show the ball tracer.

I prefer totally clean with that but that doesn't work for me. Not sure if you guys would like it or not but may be worth a try.

[Lieutenant Dan]

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Same. Follow cam with ball tracer works well, then broadcast for on/around greens.

All of the prompts are off, no swing meter. Nice and clean. On green do have the grid and putt line (which ill be turning off putt line starting next tournament.

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[DarthRambo]

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So idk if it was the course or not. But I had SIGNIFICANT lie penalties at Bay Hill in Q school. I do not have any skill points used on approach recovery which plays some part I'm sure. But I've played with aproach recovery at 0 a lot and never noticed being penalized that much. Just normal rough I was in the 35-45% range with 4 and 5 irons. I was forced to use a wedge once to lay up even.

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[golfnut67]

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So idk if it was the course or not. But I had SIGNIFICANT lie penalties at Bay Hill in Q school. I do not have any skill points used on approach recovery which plays some part I'm sure. But I've played with aproach recovery at 0 a lot and never noticed being penalized that much. Just normal rough I was in the 35-45% range with 4 and 5 irons. I was forced to use a wedge once to lay up even.

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That's very interesting. I don't think I've ever had a lie below 85 percent, even in pine straw or way out in the tropical weeds when I drastically overshoot the green (which happens very, very often).

On a happy note, my good friend that I play this game and 2k23 with, was at Bay Hill on Monday and bought me a dark blue BH hat, with Arnie's umbrella logo on it. Can't wait to meet up with him and put that lid on my head to cover my ridiculously long hair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzwWjHxbPjo

It's 6-8 inches longer now vs that video lol