The Takeaway From EA College Football 25

[JSK1979]

Re: The Takeaway From EA College Football 25

CFB 25 has an enormity of Dynasty mode issues. Many of which probably won't get fixed this year and deem the game not worth playing for some. It looks nice and plays decent enough, but the issues far outweigh anything you get on the field.

MLBTS, in my opinion, has had what could be called a legacy issue of simply not innovating player ratings. This game has been using the exact same rating system with no new ratings for well over a decade. I play Madden sometimes, I mostly play NBA 2K and MLBTS. The rating system TS has stifles sim stats and makes the game really stale. I don't know why they haven't added ratings, or changed the weight of existing ratings, or added some sort of tendencies page to better differentiate players. Franchise mode needs I really fresh coat of paint. I can live with presentation as is, I can't take another lackluster effort where franchise mode is concerned.

Like some have said here, we franchise folk are in the minority but we are paying customers. These yearly released sports titles are becoming more like a $70 season pass of mediocrity. We lost our Y2Y saves, so the game could go to more consoles, and SDS could make more money, just so that they could leave us further behind in the rear view. How are we this many console generations in, and we still don't have a real playable Single A level. No international FA, no international amateur FA (those who know baseball know these 2 are different) and, managers and coaches that actually matter (beyond ratings boost and decreases which is and always has been a terrible system). Why can't we get manager strategies in the game? Managers who use openers, managers that want to run the bases aggressively, managers who are quick to pull pitchers faster than others. I'm probably asking for and expecting too much from SDS, but I know that when I do decide to buy TS, I don't always feel like I'm getting my money's worth.

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[countryboy]

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Part of the reason why things such as Single A level, international free agency, etc aren't in the game yet is due to the years of Y2Y saves. The difficulty of adding significant changes that effected the roster logic and finances were extremely difficult to pair with existing franchises from previous versions.

With Y2Y saves removed, we've seen the draft be overhauled and more realistic in how the process works, and the addition of Prospect Performance Index, which is tied to the draft. I'm extremely confident in saying that we would've never seen these types of upgrades/improvements if Y2Y saves still existed.

And for the record, SDS didn't voluntarily expand to Xbox and Nintendo in an effort to make more money, they were instructed to by MLB as part of the licensing deal.

[baseballguy99]

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Part of the reason why things such as Single A level, international free agency, etc aren't in the game yet is due to the years of Y2Y saves. The difficulty of adding significant changes that effected the roster logic and finances were extremely difficult to pair with existing franchises from previous versions.

With Y2Y saves removed, we've seen the draft be overhauled and more realistic in how the process works, and the addition of Prospect Performance Index, which is tied to the draft. I'm extremely confident in saying that we would've never seen these types of upgrades/improvements if Y2Y saves still existed.

And for the record, SDS didn't voluntarily expand to Xbox and Nintendo in an effort to make more money, they were instructed to by MLB as part of the licensing deal.

Didn’t I hear or read somewhere that they were going to patch in some feature additions to franchise this year? Do you know if that is still happening ?

[countryboy]

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Didn’t I hear or read somewhere that they were going to patch in some feature additions to franchise this year? Do you know if that is still happening ?

I don't remember anything about them patching in feature additions to franchise this year. I remember talking about patching things into the draft last year, but nothing for this year.

If something is happening, I am not aware.

[bryanm1982]

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I guess what is frustrating to me is things like your first base and 3rd base coaches mattering were in the game over 10 years ago. It might have been Allstar Baseball? I remember they would have aggressive levels that you can choose from. So if they could do it 10-15 years ago, they should be able to do it with this technology. So that tells me, they don't feel there is a big enough need to add that.

[lunch pale gang]

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By no means am I saying College Football 25 is superior to The Show 24. Where I was going is that basics such as presentation and gameplay are still what matter to the core and mass audience. It feels like SDS has gotten away from that core focus.

So instead of the second installment of the Derek Jeter Storyline, allocate those resources to enhanced presentation features like a relevant on-field reporter, more stadium specific sights and sounds like the Presidents Race with the Nationals, closer-specific entrances for all relevant teams, or exterior ballpark scenes for all MLB clubs. Make me feel like I'm at the ballpark.

I 100% agree that NBA 2K is absolutely the blueprint I would love to see with all Franchise modes across all sports games. It keeps me interested year-round as a result. To be honest it had been a while since I used Franchise mode in the Show, but when I did a few weeks ago it didn't seem as user-friendly as I recall.

While I too would love to see a more polished presentation that enhances the immersion effects, I completely disagree with diverting funds from the Storylines budget of the game to do so. Storylines, both the Negro League and Jeter ones, have been fantastic and I argue that more funds should be given to that part of the game.

Baseball is in the unique position of holding a popular place in American sports and cultural histories for well over a century. The fact that San Diego Studios has decided to showcase a tiny fraction of that vibrant history in a video game that it markets mainly to a younger(ish) consumer group, with no ancillary monetary inducements (i.e. micro transactions) other than the initial purchase of the game, is a credit to them. They deserve as much adulation for implementing this wonderfully fun, and at the same time educational, mode as can be given.

Again, I would love to see as much money thrown at presentation and immersion aspects of the game, but not at the cost of something as valuable as the Storyline modes.

[JSK1979]

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Part of the reason why things such as Single A level, international free agency, etc aren't in the game yet is due to the years of Y2Y saves. The difficulty of adding significant changes that effected the roster logic and finances were extremely difficult to pair with existing franchises from previous versions.

With Y2Y saves removed, we've seen the draft be overhauled and more realistic in how the process works, and the addition of Prospect Performance Index, which is tied to the draft. I'm extremely confident in saying that we would've never seen these types of upgrades/improvements if Y2Y saves still existed.

And for the record, SDS didn't voluntarily expand to Xbox and Nintendo in an effort to make more money, they were instructed to by MLB as part of the licensing deal.

This is a really fair point and I guess I can see how Y2Y saves would affect this. The question I would then ask is, did they try building A-ball and international FA before when Y2Y saves existed and realized it didn't work? How much longer will it be before this gets added into the game? The draft improvements are much needed after many years of the old system. More players in the draft is very necessary. I'm sure Y2Y saves also effected ratings expansion but after a few releases since they have gotten rid of them it's about time we got a more robust rating system or additional rating or the addition of tendencies. This is just my opinion, maybe the rest of the community can care less though, which I'd completely understand.

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[Madden08PCgmr]

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Part of the reason why things such as Single A level, international free agency, etc aren't in the game yet is due to the years of Y2Y saves. The difficulty of adding significant changes that effected the roster logic and finances were extremely difficult to pair with existing franchises from previous versions.

With Y2Y saves removed, we've seen the draft be overhauled and more realistic in how the process works, and the addition of Prospect Performance Index, which is tied to the draft. I'm extremely confident in saying that we would've never seen these types of upgrades/improvements if Y2Y saves still existed.

Franchise files, yes

Rosters... no

[countryboy]

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This is a really fair point and I guess I can see how Y2Y saves would affect this. The question I would then ask is, did they try building A-ball and international FA before when Y2Y saves existed and realized it didn't work? How much longer will it be before this gets added into the game? The draft improvements are much needed after many years of the old system. More players in the draft is very necessary. I'm sure Y2Y saves also effected ratings expansion but after a few releases since they have gotten rid of them it's about time we got a more robust rating system or additional rating or the addition of tendencies. This is just my opinion, maybe the rest of the community can care less though, which I'd completely understand.

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I don't know what they did or did not try to add to the game when Y2Y saves existed only to realize they wouldn't be feasible for one reason or another. Nor do I have any idea on a timeframe as to when stuff may be added.

[bryanm1982]

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The great thing about CFB eating up my time from now to February is , absence makes the heart grow fonder. I'm going to bmore excited about MLBTS 25 than I have about The Show in the last five years. Next March is going to be glorious.

Hearing all the issues with the Dynasty in CF25 and hearing people say it is almost unplayable, makes me appreciate what we have in baseball.

[StonewallTexan]

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CFB 25 has an enormity of Dynasty mode issues. Many of which probably won't get fixed this year and deem the game not worth playing for some. It looks nice and plays decent enough, but the issues far outweigh anything you get on the field.

What are some of the issues in CFB25 you think will not be fixed this year?

[edaddy]

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Personally I think The Show does everything better than CF2025. The Show has better presentation and graphics are on par other than grass/turf. I don't get the big fuss over CF2025's presentation as far as that goes either. All it seems to have that the show doesn't is multiple broadcast teams. Outside of team entrances there isn't much else to presentation. Gameplay is much better in the show as well. Again, this is all my opinion. I'm admittedly a bigger baseball fan than football. But, some people are praising CF2025 as some sort of other worldly religious experience and I just don't see it. The game feels lackluster to me. If it wasn't for the 11 year gap it'd just be another sports game. Doesn't live up to the hype at all.

Its amazing to me how many kids went right back to playing the show after the honeymoon period for ncaa!! including me and my kids!!

[CgyFlames]

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What are some of the issues in CFB25 you think will not be fixed this year?

Simulation randomness. The devs already braced the community for disappointment by stating that there are many factors that go into the sim logic and it’s not a simple fix.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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Its amazing to me how many kids went right back to playing the show after the honeymoon period for ncaa!! including me and my kids!!

How many was it?

[Skyflame21]

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I would also say that CFB25 is NOT a game that should be a benchmark in anyway. The game initial presentation and graphics really pop and give you the wow factor. After a few games with the same team you get the same entrance shots. No pregame highlighting top players to watch. No Studio Updates cut scenes just a quick Kevin Connors voice over bottom line ticket, which errors often. The over 100 hours advertised of commentators is utter BS. The Fowler/Kirk broadcast is straight trash. The Rece/Palmer/Pollock team isnt great but average. Gameplay is just ok, nothing to shine on about its decent, but nothing stellar.

Dynasty mode is so barebones it's pathetic for a game that was a 4+ year creation. No immersion at all. Can't play/watch other games within your Dynasty Universe. No way to check on other College Coaches to see whos on the hotseat or coordinators having good years... it has the Coach Carousel but not being able to look at those coaches throughout the season it's just a throw-in to the process. Extremely limited Dynasty Top Stories so little immersion into the overall season other than just your team. A bunch of glitches of conference realignment and the CFB Playoff is an utter disaster of teams making it that have no business being there.

Recruiting is solid start, but needs a tutorial to teach you how to properly work through the various items. Like the fact that your points when in season is not a weekly points to use its the full season use.

I can't speak to UT or Road to Glory as it's not a mode I play.

I think the SHOW is always solid, needs to get more immersion with depth from a yearly archive season and long run career modes, but i'll take the solid SHOW over CFB25 any day.