What does it take for a guy to get a HC offer anymore?!?

[GordoJ]

Hey guys, apologies if this has been asked to death.

I have very limited playing time, but I enjoy building up a smaller program and working my way up the ranks to larger and larger jobs.
In previous NCAA games, this directly correlated with on field success. If I was consistently a 10-11 win per year coach, 4 to 4.5 prestige programs were knocking on my door. Make or win the Natty, you were pretty much guaranteed a 4.5 to 5 prestige program HC job offer the next season.

I’m in year two of my Cal rebuild. Cal is not bad or small; 3.5 prestige , which is pretty average. As a test, I quickly forced win the next 3 seaons, making myself go undefeated and win the natty 3 seasons in a row.

The result? I got tons of OC/DC offers, but the number of HC offers you’d think I’d never coached a game before.
After (force simming) a 3 peat National Championship, the highest profile HC job I was actually offered was Missouri.

Missouri.

No shade on Mizzou, but that’s the best offer for a 3 time national champ? And there were MANY HC vacancies that came open in that time; FSU, ND, Nebraska, OSU, Penn State, Oregon, Texas, and several more.

It’s frustrating because I’d like to think if I stay at Cal for the next several seasons and keep winning I’ll at least be considered for the big boys. But at this rate unless I win the natty 5 out of the next 6 seasons, I won’t be looking at anything other than a lateral move to any other HC offer.

Am I missing something? Is there some trait I need? A certain amount of time that has to elapse that you’re a HC for the big name programs to be interested?
Or should I just start as one of the big boys if I ever want a better job and not have to play 12 seasons?

Help!

[baconbits11]

Re: What does it take for a guy to get a HC offer anymore?!?

They know you're force simming wins.

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[GordoJ]

Re: What does it take for a guy to get a HC offer anymore?!?

They know you're force simming wins.

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Wait, Is that legit?

[tessl]

Re: What does it take for a guy to get a HC offer anymore?!?

I'm coaching Iowa State. Coach mode with coachgunn's sliders, 15 minutes, 80 speed threshold, 25 second countdown. I lost to Alabama in the finals last season. Currently undefeated with #1 seed.

I have one offensive coordinator offer. 28-1 over the last 2 seasons.

[GordoJ]

Re: What does it take for a guy to get a HC offer anymore?!?

I'm coaching Iowa State. Coach mode with coachgunn's sliders, 15 minutes, 80 speed threshold, 25 second countdown. I lost to Alabama in the finals last season. Currently undefeated with #1 seed.

I have one offensive coordinator offer. 28-1 over the last 2 seasons.

That’s annoying. I just don’t have the time to sink 7-8 seasons into a team I’m not passionate about in hopes that 3 months from now by season 8 of my dynasty and winning 4 championships someone finally offers me a HC contract.

[bkrich83]

Re: What does it take for a guy to get a HC offer anymore?!?

I think Coach prestige plays a lot in to it .

I was OC at USC, and my coach prestige was A+, I got HC offered from Florida St., Oklahoma St. and UCLA that offseason. This was year 3.

[NoleFan]

Re: What does it take for a guy to get a HC offer anymore?!?

As I said in the other thread, I was offered the UVA HC position after 1 dynasty season at Nevada with my Level 6 created coach, an 8-5 record and a W in the bowl game. Following a 7-6 season (bowl L) I have offers at USF & Liberty (ranked #18 & #19 respectively) as well as Pitt (ACC). I’m now a Level 11 coach with a total record of 15-11 (1-1 in bowls).

[GordoJ]

Re: What does it take for a guy to get a HC offer anymore?!?

Thanks for the replies guys!

So is it more effective if your primary goal is to move up the coaching ranks to start as a coordinator at a more prestigious school? Or as the HC of a less prestigious school?

[NoleFan]

Re: What does it take for a guy to get a HC offer anymore?!?

Thanks for the replies guys!

So is it more effective if your primary goal is to move up the coaching ranks to start as a coordinator at a more prestigious school? Or as the HC of a less prestigious school?

I always start as the HC at a less prestigious school. I use Mike Lowe’s method of picking my dynasty team from a list of schools who actually hired a HC with no FBS HC experience. So there’s a list of about 6 schools that I’ll always start CFB 25 dynasties with including UCLA if I wanted to play with a more prestigious school to start.


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[malky]

Re: What does it take for a guy to get a HC offer anymore?!?

They know you're force simming wins.

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The AI is getting smart lol

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: What does it take for a guy to get a HC offer anymore?!?

Your situation sounds somewhat similar to mine.

I've posted it in other threads, but the short version is that I started as an OC at Ball State, got Group of 5 HC offers after just two years at Ball State and took the Colorado State HC job. After 1 season at CSU, I got 4 Power 4 HC offers, but declined them thinking I'd get more in the years to come. Instead, I was only ever offered HC jobs at 1-2* G5 schools, and OC/DC gigs at P4 schools during coach carousels.

I didn't receive another P4 HC job offer for 8 seasons after those initial ones back following year 1 at CSU, despite making 5 CFPs and winning 6 conference titles with the Rams. I was finally offered the HC job at Wisconsin, which is my coach's alma mater and state pipeline, in 2034.

[sherrane]

Re: What does it take for a guy to get a HC offer anymore?!?

The way you play is the way a lot of us do here because it is consistent with the real life coaching progressions we've seen most of our lives. This part of the dynasty is broken in my opinion and I don't expect it to get fixed this season. In my current dynasty I started as the OC of Ball State (and beat Miami 48-45, which we know was a lousy job by me considering Miami won that game 62-0 on Saturday ).


After my 2nd season at Ball State and making the playoffs for the first time, I was offered the Head Coaching job at Virginia. I had Virginia make the playoffs in each of my first 2 seasons there. My job offers after year 2 at Virginia was OC at Boston College, DC at either Pitt or Illinois (despite being an OC at Ball State), or HC at Kent State. I don't have a Natty to hang my hat on, my coach prestige is A+ despite being 1-3 in the playoffs. I think I have done well enough to get better job offers because every job offer is a downgrade from where I am.

[GatorRich]

Re: What does it take for a guy to get a HC offer anymore?!?

I got lucky I guess..
I started as an OC at FAU.. We were good, not great but after that one season i received an offer to be OC at FSU.. Well, i had to take that since it was a D1 Power 4 school. I was literally there one season and was then offered the Head Coaching job at Auburn..

I can't remember how many years I was at Auburn, 4 or 5? Then I took the USC Head Coaching job and I'm still out there dominating..

TLDR
Season 1: OC FAU
Season 2: OC FSU
Season 3: Head Coach Auburn

I know it isn't typical, and my first two seasons were good, not great, we didn't win any championships. I guess the right jobs just opened up at the right time

[sherrane]

Re: What does it take for a guy to get a HC offer anymore?!?

I got lucky I guess..
I started as an OC at FAU.. We were good, not great but after that one season i received an offer to be OC at FSU.. Well, i had to take that since it was a D1 Power 4 school. I was literally there one season and was then offered the Head Coaching job at Auburn..

I can't remember how many years I was at Auburn, 4 or 5? Then I took the USC Head Coaching job and I'm still out there dominating..

TLDR
Season 1: OC FAU
Season 2: OC FSU
Season 3: Head Coach Auburn

I know it isn't typical, and my first two seasons were good, not great, we didn't win any championships. I guess the right jobs just opened up at the right time

That flow is something I have seen / experienced before and read about here. There a thread on this site where the poster said the jobs "dry up" after the 3rd season. My first dynasty I started as OC for ULM then took the Michigan State OC in year 2 and was offered (but did not take) the HC job at Illinois in year 3. Not taking that Illinois job kept me at Michigan State for 4 years. I killed that dynasty because of the playbooks update where they reported in the release notes that I needed to create a new dynasty to get the update. I have never gotten 7 years into a dynasty (but I should get there in my current unless I need to restart a new dynasty to apply an update like before). Maybe there are just lulls in job offers periodically. I would be a lot more optimistic about this part of the game if that is accurate.

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: What does it take for a guy to get a HC offer anymore?!?

TLDR
Season 1: OC FAU
Season 2: OC FSU
Season 3: Head Coach Auburn

I think this was basically the path I was on at Ball State as OC, but they auto renewed my contract after season 1, so I couldn't take a new job that season. After season 2, I was extended G5 HC offers (took the CSU one) and P4 coordinator offers, and then after season 3, I was offered P4 HC jobs at SMU, Minnesota, Iowa, and North Carolina, which I declined.

The issue then was, as the previous poster said, P4 HC jobs totally "dried up" for me. Despite continued success leading a G5 school to the CFP multiple times, no P4 school wanted to hire me as a head coach for another 8 years? Yet, places like Alabama, Clemson, FSU, Penn State, Michigan, etc. wanted me as an OC or DC every single season.

It really seemed to me like the game was pushing me to take a P4 OC job before becoming a HC there. The only option to get out of that endless situation was to wait until my alma mater/pipeline state job became available.