Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

[alabamarob]

Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

The green window on High risk is about 30% wider than on Normal, while the hit window is almost triple as small. The only way you can compensate the amount of slight late/early makes you can get on Normal with High risk is by being able to hit the green window consistently at a rate of about 25% with every player in the team. If you are so good then ok, you have a point, but on average not many people will be able to do it, especially not those who are accustomed on playing with real %.

I was talking on average playing with a sim mindset but naturally things can change drastically depending on individual circumstances and the way you play. If for example you use rhythm shooting and you are at least moderately good with it then High Risk becomes much more viable as the bonus you get for the green window there is enormous. Also if you like to play with just the superstars/stars of the team (as the game prefers) then High Risk becomes much better than Normal.



Sure, High risk is much more unpredictable and you have the chance to get very hot nights (but conversely also very bad ones). Given the way hotness with players works if you are able to hit a couple of shots early with a star on High risk then you are set. This because High risk emphasizes being extremely good with a single player.



That's not a good test. Making 100 shots with a single player with High risk vs Normal is highly misleading as you learn the timing cue as you go, making High risk much more effective than it is when used with a full team.

All valid and well thought out points. I play default HOF with the Hawks. I know all the players jump shots, so high risk is almost to easy with Rhthym shooting on high risk. I feel like on Normal risk it is much more realistic with rhythm shooting.

I wonder if it’s easier to shoot with the Button on Normal than with Rhythm or do you get the same boost.

So what do you guys suggest for play now, normal or low ? I want to hit some tough shots as well

You can hit tough shots with both

[sirjam]

Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

Rob I forgot to say I’m using rhythm

[alabamarob]

Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

Rob I forgot to say I’m using rhythm

Try normal for about 10 games. You will probably like the results. It adds a lot of suspense to the game. Knowing that every wide open shot with a good shooter will is money, can take away from the fun.

Even though the CPU is hitting threes with anyone over 69 3pt rating

[jeebs9]

Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

Man I feel like I'm flip flopping every other game. I can't even remember which one I've been successful with at this point


I know for one thing. I don't use rhythm shooting with a player unless I'm wide open. I almost stopped use using it as a whole. But I know I hit at a higher percent with it.

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

I actually find it easier to use rhythm on step backs and hops compared to catch and shoot.

That sight hitch in the catching animation throws me off with the stick so I just use the button.

And rhythm works so well with step backs and hops because you know exactly when the animation will start.

[alabamarob]

Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

Man I feel like I'm flip flopping every other game. I can't even remember which one I've been successful with at this point


I know for one thing. I don't use rhythm shooting with a player unless I'm wide open. I almost stopped use using it as a whole. But I know I hit at a higher percent with it.

I actually find it easier to use rhythm on step backs and hops compared to catch and shoot.

That sight hitch in the catching animation throws me off with the stick so I just use the button.

And rhythm works so well with step backs and hops because you know exactly when the animation will start.

It’s almost impossible for me to beat the CPU on Normal risk. I just can’t make enough shots, and I don’t even shoot the ball with any confidence. Whereas on high risk, I pull all kinds of shots with confidence. Ha

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

It’s almost impossible for me to beat the CPU on Normal risk. I just can’t make enough shots, and I don’t even shoot the ball with any confidence. Whereas on high risk, I pull all kinds of shots with confidence. Ha

I think that's a reflection of your stick skills.

Im the same. I couldn't hit **** on low. Much better on high risk. Im poor on stick skills, so I find memorising player jumpers (from only playing with one team lol) helps.

Im sure it's a contiuum from real player fg% to high risk. On low, your stick timing may be perfect, but the fact you made your previous 2 means the realy player fg % will kick in and you're missing.

[sirjam]

Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

I think that's a reflection of your stick skills.

Im the same. I couldn't hit **** on low. Much better on high risk. Im poor on stick skills, so I find memorising player jumpers (from only playing with one team lol) helps.

Im sure it's a contiuum from real player fg% to high risk. On low, your stick timing may be perfect, but the fact you made your previous 2 means the realy player fg % will kick in and you're missing.

This is why I’m torn. On one hand if I miss on high risk I feel it and know why. However on the other hand I know even on high risk there is some rng. I know they say there’s not but it is 2k. I know my skills are perfect one shot and then the next shot it’s very slow (rhythm)? There’s no way.

[amioran]

Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

I actually find it easier to use rhythm on step backs and hops compared to catch and shoot.

That sight hitch in the catching animation throws me off with the stick so I just use the button.

And rhythm works so well with step backs and hops because you know exactly when the animation will start.

If you are interested in using your timing skills for making shots then you are actively gimping yourself if you don't use rhythm shooting as the green window is an absurd 70% larger when using it and the hit chance increases by about 10% when at least one of the two - tempo or timing - is excellent (so for example in Low Risk you pass from a 45% hit chance on slight early/late releases to a 56%).

Also if you are good at rhythm shooting then you are likewise greatly gimping yourself if you don't use High Risk. I personally never use High Risk on offline play because I prefer to have player ratings and shot selection being the main determining factor instead of how good I am at timing the shot correctly but if you like instead the latter then rhythm shooting and High Risk is assuredly the way to go in Nba 2K25 (in fact shooting becomes even too easy with it and for this I don't personally use it when playing offline or PNO; making 70%-80% of open 3s can be fun for park or comp play but it naturally has nothing to do with basketball).

[jeebs9]

Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

If you are interested in using your timing skills for making shots then you are actively gimping yourself if you don't use rhythm shooting as the green window is an absurd 70% larger when using it and the hit chance increases by about 10% when at least one of the two - tempo or timing - is excellent (so for example in Low Risk you pass from a 45% hit chance on slight early/late releases to a 56%).

Also if you are good at rhythm shooting then you are likewise greatly gimping yourself if you don't use High Risk. I personally never use High Risk on offline play because I prefer to have player ratings and shot selection being the main determining factor instead of how good I am at timing the shot correctly but if you like instead the latter then rhythm shooting and High Risk is assuredly the way to go in Nba 2K25 (in fact shooting becomes even too easy with it and for this I don't personally use it when playing offline or PNO; making 70%-80% of open 3s can be fun for park or comp play but it naturally has nothing to do with basketball).

I think that's the other thing that's been driving me completely crazy. It's seeing 2 of the category green and one white on Rhythm Shooting and it turns out to be a miss. Almost threw my controller across the room.

Recently I've been questioning if they will expand this to free throws and hook shots.

I'm also starting to feel that tempo is not registering in PNO.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

It’s almost impossible for me to beat the CPU on Normal risk. I just can’t make enough shots, and I don’t even shoot the ball with any confidence. Whereas on high risk, I pull all kinds of shots with confidence. Ha

This is primarily why I play on High Risk. I can take and make tough shots with scorers. Streaks and slumps feel a bit more organic for me.

I can’t knock down 60-70% of my shots like you all, especially on HOF, so the numbers honestly end up being pretty realistic for me in the end, lol

[leoribas3]

Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

This is primarily why I play on High Risk. I can take and make tough shots with scorers. Streaks and slumps feel a bit more organic for me.

I can’t knock down 60-70% of my shots like you all, especially on HOF, so the numbers honestly end up being pretty realistic for me in the end, lol

Yup i ended up switching back to High Risk now that i mostly learned my teams releases

[jeebs9]

Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

I've found myself shooting med range with the normal pull back and release. It feels good. But who knows what the stats are. I think that's the biggest problem. You can't back up anything. You have no stats to tell you anything. We most remember our failures [emoji23]

[amioran]

Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

I think that's the other thing that's been driving me completely crazy. It's seeing 2 of the category green and one white on Rhythm Shooting and it turns out to be a miss. Almost threw my controller across the room.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Especially for post fades I don't know why it's really difficult to get both of the two green (shimmy shots, then, are incredibly difficult to get off with rhythm shooting as you have to make three inputs all with different tempo). I can easily use rhythm shooting for still shots and out of the dribble but in the post it is another thing altogether and I'm still practicing with it. However when you get it right it is incredibly satisfying.

[alabamarob]

Re: Who is still shooting on high risk? And why?

This is primarily why I play on High Risk. I can take and make tough shots with scorers. Streaks and slumps feel a bit more organic for me.

I can’t knock down 60-70% of my shots like you all, especially on HOF, so the numbers honestly end up being pretty realistic for me in the end, lol

Yup i ended up switching back to High Risk now that i mostly learned my teams releases

Thats the problem for me. I don’t want my poor shooter over 40 percent from three just because I nailed their timing.

I've found myself shooting med range with the normal pull back and release. It feels good. But who knows what the stats are. I think that's the biggest problem. You can't back up anything. You have no stats to tell you anything. We most remember our failures [emoji23]

I keep most of my shooting stats for the game. Just don’t foist them all