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  • F17
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    • Aug 2017
    • 113

    #1

    Fraser (& Mattanite) Madden 23 Scouting Tool

    It's done to a good enough level to fire out to the world



    A key feature of this, is that I have averages of 30 draft classes to give a somewhat calculated estimate of a potential grade, if you do not have it scouted.

    However the biggest feature, is the scouting reports themselves, great for your 32 man leagues mock draft, or for your own offline franchise to give that element of depth you wanted.

    There are 4 different formulas for calculating a players worth so pay attention to all. I have plans for an update to increase the depth as well. Ideas are Mock Drafts based on team needs around the league as well as weighting changes based on your desired scheme fits and player preferences etc etc etc. If you have any ideas feel free to fire away


    Attached screenshots show the initial tool screen. As well as scouting info for some generational prospects that have been found to showcase the scouting report
    Generational CB vs WR
    Generational HB vs DT
    Generational QB vs EDGE

    So, I guess it would be worthwhile explaining the tool
    It will take "a small chunk of time" to fill in the initial info. So to go through in week 1 (although it isn't absolutely needed to be that week) and fill in all the data. Up until the PROJ UDFA players, it will need to be in order all the way down from the "All players" view. Once you hit PROJ UDFA it can be broken down into position to finish easier. Once filled in, it can of course be filled in after sorting by position.
    Now comes to the M23 scouting update, where it will show a range for the remaining positions. This is something that will be left to your own judgement, let me explain.
    If you have a range of A-C, but really like the players measurables, you can feel free to go with A as that attribute and skew the weightings in his favour so he sits higher on your board. If you think he's a bit meh and don't really want to consider him, you can then go ahead and give him that C. You could over value him and draft a bust. Or under value and miss a gem. Either way, I like leaving that bit up to you and having a bit of a hit or miss dynamic to it without having to force it with the tool.

    On the scouting card screen, you can select group/position to show all those players between the 2 cards to make searching easier. You will need to copy and then paste as text into the name cell for it to work

    If there are any issues with the tool, please let me know and I'll address. I expect there will be some typos in the scout reporting because I'm tired, weary and inherently lazy deep down. But this tool represents a few months of on and off hyper focussing and forgetting about it because I'm easily distracted.

    Coming updates as and when I can be arsed...

    Scouting reports for K/P - apologies to the brand for omitting thus far, but outside of KPW no one cares in madden about them

    Scheme fit weightings

    Potential updates to estimated attributes for unscouted attributes based on draft class averages


    Please check the URL and try again or, alternatively, you can browse fundraisers currently receiving the most donations worldwide below.


    Some have offered to donate for the time on this. You don't need to, I thrive on attention and compliments, but if you want to send me a fiver or something then here is a link


    I've posted an updated tool. comes with a team needs function now as well. a tab that will weight players more favourably if they match team need and then preferred scheme fit.

    I'm hopeful some of the bugs that were there have been resolved

    I have also added weighting for the top QB releases, which has a tab available in the traits section. It will show in the scout card as well as act as a modifier. So that QB with Slinger 1 will be more valuable that the carthorse with Trad 5

    Fast, nearly perfect compact motion = Traditional 1
    Fast shotput style three-quarters motion = Traditional 2
    Fast motion that emphasizes a high release = Traditional 3
    Fast, violent over the top throwing motion = Traditional 4
    Fast, old school compact throwing motion = Traditional 5
    Fast, over the top style motion = Traditional 6
    Standard, over the top style motion = Traditional 7
    Fast, prototypical throwing motion = Generic 1
    League average release time throwing = Generic 2
    Slow, elongated throwing motion = Generic 3
    Lighting quick release, almost ignores lower half = Slinger 1
    Very fast and violent whip throwing motion = Slinger 2
    Three quarter fast and smooth throwing motion = Slinger 3
    Fast, flick of the wrist throwing motion = Slinger 4
    Quick, compact throwing motion = Slinger 5
    Compact, Fast traditional motion = Slinger 6
    Three quarter and quick throwing motion = Slinger 7
    Multi-Angle quick motion = Slinger 8
    Fast over the top motion = Slinger 9
    Attached Files
    Last edited by F17; 11-15-2022, 09:59 AM. Reason: Feck it it's ready to go
  • extremeskins04
    That's top class!
    • Aug 2010
    • 3864

    #2
    Re: Fraser (& Mattanite) Madden 23 Scouting Tool

    I've been looking for another scouting tool kinda like Old Man Nathy's tool that was amazing but he stopped developing it.

    Is this something you will release to the public? I'd gladly donate.

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    • Mattanite
      MVP
      • Sep 2015
      • 1716

      #3
      Re: Fraser (& Mattanite) Madden 23 Scouting Tool

      Originally posted by extremeskins04
      I've been looking for another scouting tool kinda like Old Man Nathy's tool that was amazing but he stopped developing it.

      Is this something you will release to the public? I'd gladly donate.
      Voila

      https://forums.operationsports.com/f...ting-tool.html
      The State of Madden Franchise
      Scouting Tool
      Draft Class Strength Generator
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      • Dolos22
        Rookie
        • May 2017
        • 17

        #4
        Re: Fraser (& Mattanite) Madden 23 Scouting Tool

        Roughly when will this new scouting tool be released?

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        • mrsmiles420
          Rookie
          • Apr 2015
          • 6

          #5
          Re: Fraser (& Mattanite) Madden 23 Scouting Tool

          Originally posted by F17
          So, it's still a week or so early. but I've been working hard in the limbo between maddens to add a few things to the tool and make a few adjustments. The biggest thing you are going to see for the franchises is going to be the NFL.com scouting card, which will be taking draft class information and an average of drafted player attributes from a growing number of draft classes. So even if you don't have an attribute scouted, the tool will have an idea of what that attribute will be, although of course this can have some variance and be drastically wrong, but welcome to the NFL draft I guess. I'll edit this post or something when it comes time to release to the world. But in the mean time, here are a few screenshots

          Here we see the initial sheet, filling in the basic info, but also being able to see the scores for the players as well where they rank to the rest of the class for 4 of the formulas used
          [ATTACH]200955[/ATTACH]


          Here we see the main feature. The NFL.com scouting card, where not inly you can see how your prospect is broken down by the scouts, but also, be able to compare 2 players. Imagine being torn on a QB at no1, getting your choice down to 2 and being able to side by side them. Personally, I'll be using this to add the drama to and immersion to the 32man league off seasons. If we take the 2 players below, Cody Graham is 100% scouted, whereas George Meeks only has 4 traits scouted.
          We also have some instances of players appearing the perfect prospect based on their opening 4 traits. It would be prudent to ensure that they were scouted fully to see if you truly do have a big time player on your hands, or if you're about to get catfished
          [ATTACH]200956[/ATTACH]

          Work looks amazing! Did you manage to get the tweaks you were working on done? I am doing it myself for my 32 man CFM and I am just trying to save myself the work if you already have it done. Will be following for sure to see when you release the finished product.

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          • aubreality
            Just started!
            • Dec 2021
            • 1

            #6
            Re: Fraser (& Mattanite) Madden 23 Scouting Tool

            Any updates on when this will be released?

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            • Mattanite
              MVP
              • Sep 2015
              • 1716

              #7
              Re: Fraser (& Mattanite) Madden 23 Scouting Tool

              Originally posted by aubreality
              Any updates on when this will be released?
              Not sure on the expanded F17 tool, I've had to quit Madden 23 due to busy life and haven't had a chance to finally fix and upload the lite version either.
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              • F17
                Rookie
                • Aug 2017
                • 113

                #8
                Re: Fraser (& Mattanite) Madden 23 Scouting Tool

                In the immortal words of Papa John. Stay Tuned!
                This week should hopefully see things released

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                • F17
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2017
                  • 113

                  #9
                  Re: Fraser (& Mattanite) Madden 23 Scouting Tool

                  Cheeky bump to mention that it is done and ready to rumble

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                  • SonOfWisconsin
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 177

                    #10
                    Re: Fraser (& Mattanite) Madden 23 Scouting Tool

                    Christman morning! Feel like I can finally start my CFM. Thank you for all your hard work.
                    "Basically, the only players we've ever had refuse our scholarships were lactose intolerant." - Bo Ryan

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                    • SonOfWisconsin
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 177

                      #11
                      Re: Fraser (& Mattanite) Madden 23 Scouting Tool

                      Now that I've had some time to look the sheet over, I have some questions.

                      - what is the difference between all the rankings in columns E-O, I get that green is better than red but NFL.com? Geodude?

                      - for the draft order, what do you suggest, should I do the initial column B order at week 1 and wait until right before the draft and update column C with the latest big board ranks overall? Does capturing up-down movement affect the score?

                      - does region in column AE matter at all? Does someone have a handy table or something to map which school goes where?

                      -story and notes, AS and AT, do we just put a Y there if they have a story in News about that prospect? What about tweets, do those matter too?

                      -for Pre-combine, should I enter a range like I did last year or just wait until it's a single?

                      -once combine and pro days happen, do those scores take precedence over pre-combine section? Is there value in filling out all the numbers for every prospect or should I only do it for some?

                      -any references out there for the traits and what they mean? I remember with last years it wasn't exactly clear and all the boxes are just Y/N
                      "Basically, the only players we've ever had refuse our scholarships were lactose intolerant." - Bo Ryan

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                      • F17
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2017
                        • 113

                        #12
                        Re: Fraser (& Mattanite) Madden 23 Scouting Tool

                        Now that I've had some time to look the sheet over, I have some questions.

                        - what is the difference between all the rankings in columns E-O, I get that green is better than red but NFL.com? Geodude?

                        So they're all different ways of measuring them. All have different criteria's. One is based on a weighting of each attributes value towards overall, one is based upon purely physical scores, one is a hybrid of them and the NFL.com is a different set of weighting

                        - for the draft order, what do you suggest, should I do the initial column B order at week 1 and wait until right before the draft and update column C with the latest big board ranks overall? Does capturing up-down movement affect the score?

                        I have found it easiest to do in week 1 and then update C before the draft. I do want to make that easier but for now it'll have to be some mental maths using the +/- visual for projection movement

                        - does region in column AE matter at all? Does someone have a handy table or something to map which school goes where?

                        This isn't vital truth be told

                        -story and notes, AS and AT, do we just put a Y there if they have a story in News about that prospect? What about tweets, do those matter too?


                        This doesn't impact the score yet, but I plan for it to at some point. Currently it is just there for you to input what story they get either verbatim or paraphrased for yourself. It will show in the scouting card

                        -for Pre-combine, should I enter a range like I did last year or just wait until it's a single?

                        I personally wait until combine for this, however the range still works the same

                        -once combine and pro days happen, do those scores take precedence over pre-combine section? Is there value in filling out all the numbers for every prospect or should I only do it for some?

                        The actual combine times don't matter too much, it'll be the Elite, Great etc etc that is important

                        -any references out there for the traits and what they mean? I remember with last years it wasn't exactly clear and all the boxes are just Y/N

                        I personally don't use the traits feature. It needs a big look over, but it isn't too relevant to the scores or scouting cards. The only thing worthwhile would be keeping record of what release aQB may have

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                        • SonOfWisconsin
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 177

                          #13
                          Re: Fraser (& Mattanite) Madden 23 Scouting Tool

                          So I did a test CFM/draft last night where I only put 40ish players into the sheet, wanted to report a couple of things I noticed.

                          - some of the top rows appear glitched? Specifically when I entered name/position/height/weight the teamscout grade in column E disappears, and some of the drop downs aren't there further to the right.

                          - how to best enter a range for skills? So what I mean by this is, say a player has A-C for a skill. I can type AC into the sheet but I notice that the skill score doesn't move. But if you average it out to a B, the score moves up. Am I doing that right? Or should I be entering any three letter range as the middle letter only? Additionally some rows don't allow me to do this, I had to copy paste the top skill section onto the rest of the sheet to fix it, so perhaps this is not how I'm supposed to be entering.

                          -excel keeps asking me to connect to an external data source anytime I go to open the file, and it fails.
                          "Basically, the only players we've ever had refuse our scholarships were lactose intolerant." - Bo Ryan

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                          • F17
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2017
                            • 113

                            #14
                            Re: Fraser (& Mattanite) Madden 23 Scouting Tool

                            So I did a test CFM/draft last night where I only put 40ish players into the sheet, wanted to report a couple of things I noticed.

                            - some of the top rows appear glitched? Specifically when I entered name/position/height/weight the teamscout grade in column E disappears, and some of the drop downs aren't there further to the right.

                            That should come back when you start entering skills

                            - how to best enter a range for skills? So what I mean by this is, say a player has A-C for a skill. I can type AC into the sheet but I notice that the skill score doesn't move. But if you average it out to a B, the score moves up. Am I doing that right? Or should I be entering any three letter range as the middle letter only? Additionally some rows don't allow me to do this, I had to copy paste the top skill section onto the rest of the sheet to fix it, so perhaps this is not how I'm supposed to be entering.

                            This is up to you. I mentioned in the OP that it is entirely down to your preference. You can weight them a bit higher if you like some of their skills/physicals. Or lower in the range if you don't fancy them

                            -excel keeps asking me to connect to an external data source anytime I go to open the file, and it fails.

                            I have no idea what this would be, I'll investigate

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                            • F17
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2017
                              • 113

                              #15
                              Re: Fraser (& Mattanite) Madden 23 Scouting Tool

                              Found out the issue with it asking links. Was my bad. I copied info in for the top generational players and copied too much so it was linking to a test sheet. That is now sorted.

                              File in folder is updated with fix

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