09-02-2011, 10:04 PM
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I've finally figured out why DEs don't get pressure
After some testing tonight, I realized the exact reason why DEs don't get past the OTs most of the time.
The problem is FINESSE MOVES. If you have a DE who doesn't do finesse moves, but instead does power moves (Like Jason Babin for example), you will notice that he WILL get pressure. However, if you have a DE who uses finesse moves, he will almost always not get past the OT.
This explains why DTs get so much pressure. Because power moves are so effective, and most (if not all) DTs use power moves instead of finesse moves, they have no trouble getting past their blocker.
Most people (as far as I can see) believe that the problem was just that DEs were programmed to not get past OTs very often, as many people have said "Put a punter at OT and the DE will still get blocked". This is only because of finesse moves. Simply put, they DO NOT WORK.
Now, if you want to test this yourself, go into a game, and when you get sacked by a DE, look at the replay. Almost every single time, you will notice that the DE either pushed the OT out of his way, or just ran him over, and then sacked the QB. Only TWICE have I seen a finesse move get past the OT, and that was when I had the CPUs "Pass Rushing" slider set to 75 and USER Pass Blocking set to 10.
EA needs to tune this. I think that simply lowering O-linemen's "Pass Block Footwork" attribute should do the trick, but if not, they need to go into their code and greatly increase the effectiveness of finesse moves (while also decreasing the effectiveness of power moves).\
NOTE: As I'm tired of having to repeat myself, I want to note that this thread is about AI controlled DEs/OLBs on the USERs team getting pressure. If you want to comment on how you have no problem getting pressure on the QB when you user a D-linemen/LB, don't bother. That is not what this thread is for.
Last edited by EccentricMeat; 09-21-2011 at 05:48 PM.
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