New Top Spin 4 Balancing Update

[rangerrick012]

Top Spin 4: Balancing Update #3 release notes:

• Fatigue now has a bigger impact on shot quality: tired players perform less precise shots and have higher chances of making errors if their timing is off or if the context is bad.
• Extreme cross court angles are now slightly harder to achieve.
• The balance between serving and serve return has been reworked to better feel the impact of the attributes.
• Coaches have been tweaked to limit the combination of important bonus attributes and skills impacting the quality of the shots.
• Some skills have been tweaked to guarantee that no combination of bonus attributes and skills makes some coaches more efficient than others.
• Good shots in defensive situations are harder to perform.

Sounds good to me, as these are some of the main gripes I've had w/ the game lately.

[Dudd]

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Definitely a ton more errors now, hitting from a defensive position is significantly tougher. Speed guys should really hate this update, they can't just run around the baseline and return everything now since they're likely to hit one out now.

[ronaldo9]

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Do we know if these updates will affect the computer opponents? I just bumped it up to very hard difficulty in my career mode and these updates would be very welcome when playing the cpu

[Dudd]

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Playing this some more, wow, it's like it's a different game. So much better, the tension of each shot is just ratcheted up so much since a mi**** now results in an error instead of just a mediocre shot. You can dictate so much more to a players weak side, making sure you get proper depth on your shots now is much more important since winners are so much harder to come by. It was a fun game before, now it's turning into a great game.

[The Visualizer]

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not really feeling the update. I thought the game needed some balancing but I dont know about what they did. I played the CPU on very hard and got spanked 3 times in a row, seems like the CPU plays by the old rules and i play by another more evil set that doesnt allow me to return much of anything even if im in good position. Seems like the timing is harder to get right too. I think the penalty for timing shouldnt be as great and they should penalize you instead for aiming too close to the lines like they did in TS2.

Ill just have to get the hang of it.

[fearwhatnow]

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not really feeling the update. I thought the game needed some balancing but I dont know about what they did. I played the CPU on very hard and got spanked 3 times in a row, seems like the CPU plays by the old rules and i play by another more evil set that doesnt allow me to return much of anything even if im in good position. Seems like the timing is harder to get right too. I think the penalty for timing shouldnt be as great and they should penalize you instead for aiming too close to the lines like they did in TS2.

Ill just have to get the hang of it.

Playing on Hard and CPU makes a ton of errors when the player is exhausted,after long rallies and when he is tactically being under pressure by me.Penalty timing is now nearly perfect for me, pushing a little more right or left on the LS and ball goes out of bounds. I'm playing with real tennis rules,i'm close to saying that TS4 is the best sports sim ever made.
Oh!I almost forgot!After balancing update CPU makes more unforced errors sending the ball straight to the net.

[davel]

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is anyone able to get aces ?

[jd@os]

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The only change that's left that I want in this game is the ability to play as a real pro in career mode.

[NEOPARADIGM]

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I just played a level 7 player with my level 15 player and lost 6-2, 7-6 with - get this - 22 unforced errors.

I've never gotten frustrated with this game before. I am right now.

[rangerrick012]

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not really feeling the update. I thought the game needed some balancing but I dont know about what they did. I played the CPU on very hard and got spanked 3 times in a row, seems like the CPU plays by the old rules and i play by another more evil set that doesnt allow me to return much of anything even if im in good position. Seems like the timing is harder to get right too. I think the penalty for timing shouldnt be as great and they should penalize you instead for aiming too close to the lines like they did in TS2.

Ill just have to get the hang of it.

I have the same feeling. I have no problem w/ the added UEs and the game plays better online, but offline in career mode so far I'm playing for the first time since the balancing update, and the first time in a while overall.

Halfway through a set vs Murray and he has 22 winners and 1 UE. I just hate that the CPU, Murray and Nadal especially, but others as well, basically make little to no UEs.

After being down 6-1, 2-0 I just turned the game off. Basically it's not a level playing field, since CPU can still hit those crazy angle topspin shots that the user can't anymore after the update. Good for online, but bad since they didn't make the same changes for the AI. It's not like I'm always bad against Murray either, I was 2-1 h2h with him and had beaten him at the Australian before the update. But now like I said, CPU still makes no errors while it's easier for the user to make errors or leave the ball short.

Looks like it might be what everyone hates in sports games, Very Hard is too hard while Hard is too easy.

[ronaldo9]

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Looks like a lot of us are getting frustrated. I agree completely with RangerRick...very hard is killing me right now, and the time I spend on this game is diminishing.

[BobSacamano]

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I play on Hard and can't even beat a Level 11 with my Level 18 career guy. I am getting so frustrated with this game. I'm no tennis buff but I didn't think anything was wrong with the game before the update. Now I'm just getting angry when I play.

Man, I feel like the game's been taken away from me. I'm not even having fun anymore.

[nikoemo]

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how do you download this update and is it only for online play?tnx!

[fearwhatnow]

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I play on Hard and can't even beat a Level 11 with my Level 18 career guy. I am getting so frustrated with this game. I'm no tennis buff but I didn't think anything was wrong with the game before the update. Now I'm just getting angry when I play.

Man, I feel like the game's been taken away from me. I'm not even having fun anymore.

It's obvious that you need to play tactically and with patience looking for CPU weaknesses.Try to use the square button often.
Before the balancing update you could hit these unbelievable topspins right in the corner.The CPU too.Now thankfully this is not happening.
This is a tennis simulation.Unforced errors,great rallies,stamina drain,momentum,unexpected animations (yesterday a Czech level 13 guy returned the ball after I lobbed him with a under the legs butterfly shot).
What we need now is another update that increases again unforced errors and a DLC with real/custom tournaments and more players.

[NEOPARADIGM]

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It's obvious that you need to play tactically and with patience looking for CPU weaknesses.

If you're not experiencing frustration, then that's a good sign the rest of us just need to catch up. At the same time, you're assuming we're not playing tactically or patiently.

Believe me, I'm taking the shots I should be taking. The difference is, now a good number of those shots are easily returnable and/or going out of bounds, whereas they weren't before the update.

So basically now my character feels like she's about a level 8 and needs more forehand and backhand attribute points before she'll feel and play like she used to; which is fine, it's just a bit out of left field.

I already done went through the growing pains of being considerably weaker than my opponents, now it seems like I have to do it all over again.