M17 Custom CPU PBs & Default All-Pro(DSkins81)

[HighCmpPct]

No doubt the game definitely plays better out of the box. I'm coming back from a trip and since I was using the hotel's free WiFi, I figured what the hell I'll see what it's like with the patches and tuners.

No....just....no. It's horrible with the patch, high scores all the time, no rough hard played defensive games. Which if you just look back at some of my posts, I was getting before.

And of course there's the QB accuracy issue, but even more than that for me was that it seemed no matter what I called or audibled to or anything there was almost always a guy pretty much wide open. I mean I could've had a sky high completion % with those looks.

Only thing that I hate about going back to OOTB is losing the color rush unis. Really wish EA had made them DLC instead of combined with a patch.

But oh well I'll be deleting all of it when I get home. At least I was able to get some updated rosters out of it.

[Rocket32]

Like how it feels so far. So far I think I'm gonna go down to 15 QB accuracy though. At 25 now. The great thing is that the QB accuracy sliders are actually responsive and effective again in the out of the box version. Definitely felt a difference going from 50 to 25. The rest of the gameplay is fine I think. A bit of a bummer that we have to deal with the Rams stadium glitch where they move into a basic stadium in year 2 of CFM and that we don't get the weaker draft classes but oh well. Think some people were actually arguing that it was fine before so I guess it's worth it for the better gameplay.

[HighCmpPct]

No doubt the game definitely plays better out of the box. I'm coming back from trip and since I was using the hotels free WiFi I figured what the hell I'll see what like with the patches and tuners.

No....just....no. It's horrible with the patch, high scores all the time no rough hard played defensive games. Which of you just look back at some of my posts I was getting before.

And of course their's the QB accuracy issue, but even more than that for me was that it seemed no matter what I called or audibled or anything there was almost always a guy pretty much wide open. I mean I could've had a sky high completion % with those looks.

Only thing that I hate about going back is losing the color rush unis. Really wish EA had made the dlc instead of combined with a patch.

But oh well I'll be deleting all of it when I get home. At least I was able to get some updated rosters out of it.

[cable guy]

Quote: Originally Posted by tyler28

Played another game. One thing im noticing thats pretty drastic is the ai qb play is way better. Im seeing a ton of pocket presense..movement..and scrambling. Better reading of the defense and errant throws. Its awesome. Im really questioning ea and their team to mess things up from where it is wo the patch to were it is w the patch. Kicking game is definitely a challange like it should be on all madden . Here are the stats i was sd. I got stomped by kc d. Whick is pretty accurate they were 87 ovr i was 80 31-13. But it was still fun ,for a sim player it felt as expected and was a challenge. Notice a. Smiths rushing stats. I never saw this w the newest patch. Thanks for showing me the way of the jedi to defeat the evil ea empire..lol Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk

It's awesome isn't it!! I'm playing all pro but it plays very similar to charter's sliders! If you remember I also had to tone them down to my level lol. Like all-pro plus level. But in some ways totally out of the box just plays better, in the endless animations and organic gameplay.

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[cable guy]

Anyway I'm taking my 10-5 Cowboys into Philly to battle the 9-6 Eagles. for what will be for NFC East title! They beat me in Dallas earlier in the season. In a comeback victory.

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[tyler28]

Ya all madden is a lot harder ootb. I forgot it got easier with the patches and ppl were complaining about the challenge on am.

Im 0-3 with the chargers and pretty much been stomped every game. Lol. Games have been different so its hard to say that i want to adjust sliders. Its probably because my secondary is terrible..well pretty much the whole defense.

I also ran w charters 1st set in the beginning. I really dont want to mess the gameplay up by moving things around. It plays so good on default and i know once i adjust it, its all over will. Ill just ride it out. Its still fun ill just have to work on getting a better team.

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[D81SKINS]

Quote: Originally Posted by tyler28

Ya all madden is a lot harder ootb. I forgot it got easier with the patches and ppl were complaining about the challenge on am. Im 0-3 with the chargers and pretty much been stomped every game. Lol. Games have been different so its hard to say that i want to adjust sliders. Its probably because my secondary is terrible..well pretty much the whole defense. I also ran w charters 1st set in the beginning. I really dont want to mess the gameplay up by moving things around. It plays so good on default and i know once i adjust it, its all over will. Ill just ride it out. Its still fun ill just have to work on getting a better team. Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk

See that's how All-Madden should be, I have no idea what the heck EA did to the User vs CPU gameplay with the Patches but we all see, it's not right.
I'm thankful I'm not the only one seeing how much better it is now by going back to the ootb version.
If All-Madden gets too difficult and your players confidence gets too low, you should try AP. I could see how reeling off a string of wins could boost your teams confidence, making it easier on AP, especially if your team is already rated higher than the teams your facing.

Gameplay is my most important part of the game, not Uniforms, not accurate rosters, heck teams rosters change so much irl, how can anyone ever have 100% accurate rosters, injuries etc.

Other slider makers are trying to polish an updated turd imo, if they haven't compared(played and tested) the ootb version (disc) vs updated version, they are full of polished turds lol

[HighCmpPct]

Here's the latest game from my 49er's CFM after I got home and deleted the patch and tuners and reinstalled.

Game 5:

Arizona Cardinals at San Francisco 49ers
Sep 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Arizona Cardinals (0-4)	0	6	9	0	15
San Francisco 49ers (2-2)	14	3	3	7	27

Team Stats Comparison
	ARI	SFO
Total Offense	213	303
Rushing Yards	34	197
Passing Yards	179	106
First Downs	13	15
Punt Return Yards	0	71
Kick Return Yards	110	173
Total Yards	323	547
Turnovers	2	3
3rd Down Converstion	4-13	6-13
4th Down Conversion	0	1-2
2-Point Conversion	0	0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1/0	2/2
Penalties	6-63	4-35
Posession Time	14:20	21:38

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		ARI	SFO
4:05	(SFO) A.Gates 5yd TD Catch	0	7
3:21	(SFO) R.Sherman 56yd INT Return TD	0	14
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		ARI	SFO
3:26	(SFO) J.Tucker 25yd FG	0	17
0:32	(ARI) J.Matthews 6yd TD Catch	6	17
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		ARI	SFO
6:43	(SFO) J.Tucker 20yd FG	6	20
3:57	(ARI) A.Vinatieri 44yd FG	9	20
2:03	(ARI) A.Vinatieri 48yd FG	12	20
1:16	(ARI) A.Vinatieri 50yd FG	15	20
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		ARI	SFO
7:53	(SFO) M.Vick 1yd TD Scramble	15	27

Arizona Cardinals PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Cam Newton 23-39 210 1 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Arian Foster 13 30 2.3 0 Kerwynn Williams 2 4 2 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Nelson Agholor 6 56 9.3 0 Craig Stevens 5 43 9.5 0 Jordan Matthews 4 35 8.7 1 Kevin White 3 29 9.6 0 Arian Foster 2 23 11.5 0 Luke Stocker 1 7 7 0 Miles Austin 1 3 3 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Aaron Williams 10 0 0 0 Tahir Whitehead 8 0 0 0 Jonathan Newsome 8 0 0 0 Landon Collins 8 0 0 0 Tyrone Holmes 6 0 0 0 Aldon Smith 6 1 0 0 Quinton Coples 5 1 0 0 Lawrence Timmons 4 0 1 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Adam Vinatieri 3/3 0/1 9 50 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Jon Ryan 5 277 55.4 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Randall Cobb 4 110 27.5 0

San Francisco 49ers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Mike Vick 13-19 130 1 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Jonas Gray 25 150 6 0 Mike Vick 5 31 6.2 1 Keith Marshall 7 16 2.2 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Antonio Gates 4 44 11 1 Vernon Davis 3 22 7.3 0 Marques Colston 2 29 14.5 0 Jim Dray 1 24 24 0 Will Johnson 1 -2 -2 0 Dorial Green-Beckham 1 -4 -4 0 Charles Johnson 1 10 10 0 Keith Marshall 1 6 6 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD James Laurinaitis 8 0 0 0 Nick Perry (User) 6 2 0 0 Brandon Browner 6 0 0 0 DeAngelo Hall 6 0 0 0 Ricky Jean-Francois 6 1 0 0 Richard Sherman 3 0 2 1 Bruce Irvin 2 1 0 0 Ricky Jean-Francois 2 1 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Justin Tucker 2-2 3-3 9 25 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Mike Scifres 2 113 56.5 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Devin Hester 4 155 38.7 0 Keith Marshall 1 18 18 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Devin Hester 4 71 17.7 0

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