Would you pay for annual roster updates instead of annual editions?

[howardphillips214]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

TLDR: I understand Santa Claus doesn't exist. I think that he should. Let's talk about it!

Funny.

What's the point of having the conversation tho if you don't know whether it would be something people even wanted?

[Real2KInsider]

Quote: Originally Posted by howardphillips214

Funny. What's the point of having the conversation tho if you don't know whether it would be something people even wanted?

People say they want World Peace. Their checking account says they want Imperialism.

The world isn't sugar plums and gum drops. The freedoms you enjoy have costs.

You can pretend you're positing a meaningful talking point. I'm not naive. You post a thread on a seemingly weekly basis complaining about some facet of the game. You're not looking to stimulate conversation or listen to a range of viewpoints. You're looking for an emotional outlet.

[howardphillips214]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

People say they want World Peace. Their checking account says they want Imperialism. The world isn't sugar plums and gum drops. The freedoms you enjoy have costs. You can pretend you're positing a meaningful talking point. I'm not naive. You post a thread on a seemingly weekly basis complaining about some facet of the game. You're not looking to stimulate conversation or listen to a range of viewpoints. You're looking for an emotional outlet.

Wow.... And i actually thought you brought a nice objective side to the site. I've actually stood up for you a couple of times. I typically agreed with your viewpoints.

But I'm sorry to break it to you. I actually haven't been able to play for about 3 weeks due to life complications. This is just an idea my buddies and I've talked about for years, i wanted to gauge the interest of the board. Of course money is the driving force behind the annual release. But they've also proven that their main stream of money comes from micro transactions. The company is literally double, triple, and quadruple dipping in the well.

MyTeam is a pay to win mode. Career is a pay to win mode. Some people create new builds every couple of weeks.

I'm not stupid, if you're not naive.

The fact still remains tho that this could be a MUCH better product on a bi-annual release or even something more than that.

There is zero reason in 2020 to re-release the same game in different iterations. It's not like they've torched the core engine since last gen.

Even if they DID completely alter the momentum engine and added physics to the game, this could be done via patch.

Hell... They could come up with a way to make you pay to "patch" to 2k21. The base code will always be the same, even with drastic changes to gameplay.


My sole argument is that with them always spending resources in areas unnecessarily, giving us new parks" new cut scenes, new clothes... They could spend much more time working on core gameplay issues and "fine tuning" vs always releasing a rushed and flawed project that takes 6 months to get hallway decent.


My argument that the annual release is actually grown to be obsolete and completely unnecessary.

But once again, i wasnt going to argue with anyone.... I just wanted to gauge interest. If there HAD been a substantial interest in this idea i was open to discussing the logistics of it.

But once again.... Anyone who doesn't say that 2k is just the greatest game ever and has no flaws, I'm crying.


Mmmk.

[Real2KInsider]

Quote: Originally Posted by howardphillips214

The fact still remains tho that this could be a MUCH better product on a bi-annual release or even something more than that.

We could solve poverty too if we made taxation bi-annual. Wouldn't that be great? What do you guys think?

[studdley_]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

We could solve poverty too if we made taxation bi-annual. Wouldn't that be great? What do you guys think?

Bro wtf does poverty have to do with a video game? I think you’re looking at this way too broadly. We’re talking about a bi-annual release of a video game when you’re making terrible analogies to get a point across that almost nobody agrees with


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[jeebs9]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

We could solve poverty too if we made taxation bi-annual. Wouldn't that be great? What do you guys think?

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[ksuttonjr76]

Quote: Originally Posted by howardphillips214

Wow.... And i actually thought you brought a nice objective side to the site. I've actually stood up for you a couple of times. I typically agreed with your viewpoints. But I'm sorry to break it to you. I actually haven't been able to play for about 3 weeks due to life complications. This is just an idea my buddies and I've talked about for years, i wanted to gauge the interest of the board. Of course money is the driving force behind the annual release. But they've also proven that their main stream of money comes from micro transactions. The company is literally double, triple, and quadruple dipping in the well. MyTeam is a pay to win mode. Career is a pay to win mode. Some people create new builds every couple of weeks. I'm not stupid, if you're not naive. The fact still remains tho that this could be a MUCH better product on a bi-annual release or even something more than that. There is zero reason in 2020 to re-release the same game in different iterations. It's not like they've torched the core engine since last gen. Even if they DID completely alter the momentum engine and added physics to the game, this could be done via patch. Hell... They could come up with a way to make you pay to "patch" to 2k21. The base code will always be the same, even with drastic changes to gameplay. My sole argument is that with them always spending resources in areas unnecessarily, giving us new parks" new cut scenes, new clothes... They could spend much more time working on core gameplay issues and "fine tuning" vs always releasing a rushed and flawed project that takes 6 months to get hallway decent. My argument that the annual release is actually grown to be obsolete and completely unnecessary. But once again, i wasnt going to argue with anyone.... I just wanted to gauge interest. If there HAD been a substantial interest in this idea i was open to discussing the logistics of it. But once again.... Anyone who doesn't say that 2k is just the greatest game ever and has no flaws, I'm crying. Mmmk.

Interest is irrelevant. The consumer base is roughly 9-7 million players. If they skip a year, do you really believe they'll suddenly sell 18-14 million in the year they release to make-up for the skipped year? No...they won't. Will the game be "better" with a 2-year development cycle? Maybe, but it's not going to be exponentially better. EVEN THEN...you STILL will have people who's going to try to find every glitch or exploit in the game, so the game will STILL have to patched for missed glitches during the Q/A process and from the general community whining and complaining about something.

The consumer literally have the power to purchase the game every 2 years if they want to especially considering that the servers are on for two years. The consumer has the power to purchase the game in December or January respectively. Why does 2KSports have to make the "decision" to change the release date when no one is forcing the consumer to buy the game in September?

I buy NBA 2K every year, because I like using the new mechanics that they introduce. Some things I like. Some things I don't. As I stated before in a different thread, basketball is basketball, and there's only so many innovations that you can do outside of graphics and general gameplay animations/physics.

What 2K Sports "struggles" with is balancing the game for the casuals, diehards, and sim crowds. Let's take your argument about passing lane steals. You say it's OP. I say people are just making stupid passes.

[GisherJohn24]

Not just roster updates, but new offline modes or additions and features too. Rosters should be free, plus you can download free from the community anyway.