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Old 08-31-2013, 07:45 AM   #89
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Re: NBA 2K14 - New Signature Skills Revealed, Including Pre-Order LeBron Coast to Coa

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That would be redundant.
So are half the skills so why not?

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I don't think so, eraser was meant mostly for emphatic block animations. Tenacious shotblocker would suggest the ability to keep up with the play after the initial block and be able to block multiple shots in a row, maybe even a higher success rate with blocking dunks.
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Old 08-31-2013, 08:01 AM   #90
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Wait what? Do you even know what sig skills are? They don't change anything about how players move and play. That's nonsense. All they do is modify already existing ratings by fixed amounts. You really shouldn't buy into marketing gimmicks that easily. There can be a case made for sig skills being useful, but not for your reason. That's not what they do at all. What you're talking about are signature animations and individual tendencies. Remove sig skills completely...and players would still play in exactly the same way. Slightly different outcomes due to rating changes, but everything else stays the same.

And the Lebron sig skill...so there's a one man fastbreak skill boosting speed, ball handling and quickness in the open court. But if you preorder, you get the Lebron skill, which boosts...speed, ball handling and quickness in the open court. Awesome.
I'm pretty sure some of the sig skills do affect tendencies.

And to be fair, the lebron skill also serves as finisher on the fastbreak. But yeah, it's hardly worth a pre-order.
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Old 08-31-2013, 08:10 AM   #91
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I'm pretty sure some of the sig skills do affect tendencies.

And to be fair, the lebron skill also serves as finisher on the fastbreak. But yeah, it's hardly worth a pre-order.
No 2k13 sig skill influences tendencies as far as I know. Here's a breakdown of all the effects, I'm pretty sure they haven't missed anything.
http://ps3.mmgn.com/Articles/nba-2k1...e-skills-guide

The only things close to having an impact on tendencies are stuff like ankle breaker and post proficiency, which kind of change the odds of certain animations triggered for the defender. But the guy having the skill doesn't behave any different.

About Lebron...you're right. But finisher is in the game already. So kinda redundant. Besides, why does James need an artificial rating boost for being effective in the open court? Doesn't make any sense. He's good in transition because there's more space for him to accelerate and use his athleticism...which he always has. What a pointless idea. But kids gonna love it. Maybe it's easier to run fast in transition with a clear path to the basket than in the half court with 3 guys crowding the lane for obvious reasons...or let's pretend it's because during a fast break Lebron gets super powers in real life I mean if kids like this that's cool, but sig skills should be removable. That's big for custom rosters.

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Old 08-31-2013, 08:13 AM   #92
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Old 08-31-2013, 08:57 AM   #93
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TBH, I only noticed the LBJ sig skill light up one time (that I can clearly recall). Coulda happened more, but just didn't see it.

LD2K said the DEVS took feedback from here to reconfigure the SIG SKILLS and re-balance them. Now if that is PR talk or not, it is what it is.

The LBJ SS will only apply to MyPlayers as I don't think anyone else in the NBA will get this, nor would they have this applied to them.

C2C, hopefully its not halloween candy. I don't think it will be overpowered, as, what constitutes a FB in 2k? Only way to get an idea is to look at FB points in 13 matches. 10-20 points or so, so 5-10 maybe 15 FBs a game? Somewhere around there?

Also you will have to have numbers in transition for it to be considered a FB, and in the demo build, the CPU was getting back. I only had a few instances to where I can specifically remember having a proper fastbreak.

So all in all, I wouldn't naturally assume to worry about it, lets, let it roll out, get some time with it and do as Czar has mentioned and get a thread going with proper feedback for the DEVS as we know they come on here for ideas/etc, and do our thing. This would be the most productive way to get what we want out of 2K.
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No 2k13 sig skill influences tendencies as far as I know. Here's a breakdown of all the effects, I'm pretty sure they haven't missed anything.
http://ps3.mmgn.com/Articles/nba-2k1...e-skills-guide

The only things close to having an impact on tendencies are stuff like ankle breaker and post proficiency, which kind of change the odds of certain animations triggered for the defender. But the guy having the skill doesn't behave any different.

About Lebron...you're right. But finisher is in the game already. So kinda redundant. Besides, why does James need an artificial rating boost for being effective in the open court? Doesn't make any sense. He's good in transition because there's more space for him to accelerate and use his athleticism...which he always has. What a pointless idea. But kids gonna love it. Maybe it's easier to run fast in transition with a clear path to the basket than in the half court with 3 guys crowding the lane for obvious reasons...or let's pretend it's because during a fast break Lebron gets super powers in real life I mean if kids like this that's cool, but sig skills should be removable. That's big for custom rosters.
The main thing that popped up in my head was posterizer, i assumed it gives you an increase in dunk tendency. Which is the reason why robert pack and others with very high dunk tendency will dunk on anybody without having to put posterizer on them.

And others could be highlight film, or ankle breaker like you mentioned.

About the lebron sig skill, it fits lebron perfectly imo. However i do agree it's a pointless sig skill, for the simple reason that the finisher part ONLY works in transition. I think the "finisher" sig skill works in transition as well, so i don't see any reason why anyone would choose to combine "lebron coast2coast with finisher" over "one man fastbreak with finisher".

Just to be clear i'm only talking in regards to mycareer, crew and myteam.
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One of the things that I thought was unique about the idea of signature skills is that they would help you find ways to use the role players. More often than not, I think the bulk of the sigs are given to the stars.
THIS! This is where I get frustrated! The validation of the system was that it made role players useful by accentuating what they did best without boosting their ratings artificially.


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Where is Posterizer?
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