This is NOT playing defense. Stop it 2k.

[howardphillips214]

All this dude did was play off me and play the passing lanes. He was NOT 2-way. He was a SHARPSHOOTER. Probably has Interceptor Bronze at best. But this is ALL the "elite" players do.

STOP IT!

[howardphillips214]

This CANNOT be in 2k21 to this extent. STOP IT.

[howardphillips214]

Think i got some duplicates. Oh well.

[howardphillips214]

Quote: Originally Posted by howardphillips214

Think i got some duplicates. Oh well.

THIS GUY IS IN THE PAINT AND I'M ON THE THREE POINT LINE AND HE CAN GET A HAND ON THIS PASS? REALLY?!

[howardphillips214]

He finished with 6 steals btw. Probably would have had more if he was a defensive archetype. He literally sits between the ball and his man and SPAMS steal with NO consequence. I think we had something like 30 turn overs as a team because they ALL did this. I just captured mine because my man did NOTHING all game except this crap.

[tru11]

Getting 30 turnovers seems like good defense and horrible offense tbh.

Why would they do anything else when just this is good enough?

What would be your solution?
You want passes to go through players?

Your first picture is a horrible pass that should be a TO.

2nd and 3rd picture seems like a very ill advised pass as well tbh.
Does not look like an icon pass which would have made it way harder to get intercepted.

4th and 5th picture looked like a good pass and a wide open shot or at least semi contested shot.

6th and 7th picture look like good defense since the ball is at 1 corner and you are at the other corner.
The pass is already ill advised and judging by the trajectory its not a high enough to make it impossible to be intercepted.

With needle threader and icon passing you could get away with some of these against non defending builds if you have decent enough passing yourself tbh


Wondering but have you guys considerd that everyone has eyes in the back of their head since eveyone is watching everything happen in 3rd person?

You dont have to look at the passer nor have your eyes on the man you are marking to play the passing lane or react to passes being made.

In real life if you dont see the passer you wont see the pass.
Same with the man you are marking.
If you have your back towards him you can loose him.

In a 3rd person view in a video game these things dont apply.

Its pretty much impossible to offer a 3rd person view with 1st person limitations.

[ksuttonjr76]

Quote: Originally Posted by tru11

Getting 30 turnovers seems like good defense and horrible offense tbh. Why would they do anything else when just this is good enough? What would be your solution? You want passes to go through players? Your first picture is a horrible pass that should be a TO. 2nd and 3rd picture seems like a very ill advised pass as well tbh. Does not look like an icon pass which would have made it way harder to get intercepted. 4th and 5th picture looked like a good pass and a wide open shot or at least semi contested shot. 6th and 7th picture look like good defense since the ball is at 1 corner and you are at the other corner. The pass is already ill advised and judging by the trajectory its not a high enough to make it impossible to be intercepted. With needle threader and icon passing you could get away with some of these against non defending builds if you have decent enough passing yourself tbh Wondering but have you guys considerd that everyone has eyes in the back of their head since eveyone is watching everything happen in 3rd person? You dont have to look at the passer nor have your eyes on the man you are marking to play the passing lane or react to passes being made. In real life if you dont see the passer you wont see the pass. Same with the man you are marking. If you have your back towards him you can loose him. In a 3rd person view in a video game these things dont apply. Its pretty much impossible to offer a 3rd person view with 1st person limitations.

I'm going to analyze the pictures myself later, but I think you might have already hit on the things that I spotted. My first thought was...the PG sucks.

In the very first picture, the PG came too deep in the paint, then tried to pass out to the corner where it COULD be easily intercepted. If it was me, I would have shot the open mid-range or used a euro-step to force the big to foul me or jump too soon for the block which would left the big open for an uncontested layup/dunk.

2nd picture...without knowing if the offensive player was forced to pick up the ball, I'm going to assume he still have a live ball. I would use a triple threat move to make the defense react. More than likely, I would use the screen. If my teammates are good, the screener should swing to the other wing, and more than likely they would switch on the matchup. My build is pretty quick, so I'm going to be approaching your defender quickly. He's either going step up to try to prevent me from rounding the corner, or he might follow you into the deep corner. My gut instinct with the current meta...they can't resist a double team, so I'll just a backward dribble move to "bait" them into the double team attempt and hit you in the corner for the easy 3. DAMN...just looked at picture 3 while typing my response. Naw...your PG made a stupid pass.

I don't see any problems with Pictures 4 and 5. Either you can shoot the shot or make an extra pass for the corner 3.

[ksuttonjr76]

Quote: Originally Posted by howardphillips214

Think i got some duplicates. Oh well.

Another bad pass. Passes from the corner and across the paint is begging to be stolen. Just the legacy issue of bigs getting one-handed steals in the paint should have made that an ill-advised pass from the jump.

Personally, I would just taken the baseline drive and went for the reverse layup.

I dunno...I see examples of bad/rushed passes and the offense not being aware of where the defenders are at on the floor. If your team was making these type of passes for the entire game, I'm not shocked that they had 30 turnovers.