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Team Prestige in NCAA Football 10

03:28 PM - July 13, 2009 by OMT

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Alabama	6
Florida	6
LSU	6
Michigan	6
Notre Dame	6
Ohio State	6
Oklahoma	6
Texas	6
USC	6
Auburn	5
Boise State	5
Florida State	5
Georgia	5
Miami	5
Nebraska	5
Oregon	5
Penn State	5
Tennessee	5
Utah	5
Virginia Tech	5
West Virginia	5
Arizona State	4
Boston College	4
BYU	4
Cal	4
Cincinnati	4
Colorado	4
Georgia Tech	4
Kansas	4
Louisville	4
Missouri	4
North Carolina	4
Oklahoma State	4
Oregon State	4
Pittsburgh	4
Rutgers	4
Texas A&M	4
Texas Tech	4
UCLA	4
Wake Forest	4
Wisconsin	4
Arizona	3
Arkansas	3
UCF	3
Clemson	3
Colorado State	3
ECU	3
Fresno State	3
Hawai'i	3
Illinois	3
Indiana	3
Iowa	3
Iowa State	3
Kansas State	3
Kentucky	3
Marshall	3
Maryland	3
Michigan State	3
Minnesota	3
Mississippi State	3
NC State	3
Northwestern	3
Ole Miss	3
Purdue	3
South Carolina	3
Southern Miss	3
Stanford	3
Syracuse	3
TCU	3
Toledo	3
Tulsa	3
Connecticut	3
Virginia	3
Washington	3
Washington State	3
USF	3
Air Force	2
Akron	2
Ball State	2
Baylor	2
Bowling Green	2
Buffalo	2
Central Michigan	2
Duke	2
Houston	2
Louisiana Tech	2
Memphis	2
Miami University	2
Navy	2
Nevada	2
New Mexico	2
Northern Illinois	2
Ohio	2
Rice	2
UNLV	2
UTEP	2
Vanderbilt	2
Wyoming	2
Troy	2
Florida Atlantic	2
Arkansas State	1
Army	1
Eastern Michigan	1
Idaho	1
Kent State	1
Mid Tenn State	1
New Mexico State	1
North Texas	1
UL Monroe	1
San Diego State	1
San Jose State	1
SMU	1
UL Lafayette	1
Temple	1
Tulane	1
UAB	1
Utah State	1
Western Michigan	1
Western Kentucky	1
FIU	1

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# 61 jsquigg @ 07/13/09 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoSparty


	Aren't ya'll breaking in a new QB too? Anyway, I'm taking us a little off course here. . . .

You are and we are, but Tate Forcier and Denard Robinson are already better than what we had last year without even taking a snap. If I'm not mistaken, you all will be experiencing a little inexperienced QB syndrome as well. I revert back to a formula I came up with: Talent > Experience. But only if you can't have both.

# 62 aimiami @ 07/13/09 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam_Thompson_EA

I've seen this requested. Flame on!

Alabama 6
Florida 6
LSU 6
Michigan 6
Notre Dame 6
Ohio State 6
Oklahoma 6
Texas 6
USC 6
Auburn 5
Boise State 5
Florida State 5
Georgia 5
Miami 5
Nebraska 5
Oregon 5
Penn State 5
Tennessee 5
Utah 5
Virginia Tech 5
West Virginia 5
Arizona State 4
Boston College 4
BYU 4
Cal 4
Cincinnati 4
Colorado 4
Georgia Tech 4
Kansas 4
Louisville 4
Missouri 4
North Carolina 4
Oklahoma State 4
Oregon State 4
Pittsburgh 4
Rutgers 4
Texas A&M 4
Texas Tech 4
UCLA 4
Wake Forest 4
Wisconsin 4
Arizona 3
Arkansas 3
UCF 3
Clemson 3
Colorado State 3
ECU 3
Fresno State 3
Hawai'i 3
Illinois 3
Indiana 3
Iowa 3
Iowa State 3
Kansas State 3
Kentucky 3
Marshall 3
Maryland 3
Michigan State 3
Minnesota 3
Mississippi State 3
NC State 3
Northwestern 3
Ole Miss 3
Purdue 3
South Carolina 3
Southern Miss 3
Stanford 3
Syracuse 3
TCU 3
Toledo 3
Tulsa 3
Connecticut 3
Virginia 3
Washington 3
Washington State 3
USF 3
Air Force 2
Akron 2
Ball State 2
Baylor 2
Bowling Green 2
Buffalo 2
Central Michigan 2
Duke 2
Houston 2
Louisiana Tech 2
Memphis 2
Miami University 2
Navy 2
Nevada 2
New Mexico 2
Northern Illinois 2
Ohio 2
Rice 2
UNLV 2
UTEP 2
Vanderbilt 2
Wyoming 2
Troy 2
Florida Atlantic 2
Arkansas State 1
Army 1
Eastern Michigan 1
Idaho 1
Kent State 1
Mid Tenn State 1
New Mexico State 1
North Texas 1
UL Monroe 1
San Diego State 1
San Jose State 1
SMU 1
UL Lafayette 1
Temple 1
Tulane 1
UAB 1
Utah State 1
Western Michigan 1
Western Kentucky 1
FIU 1

i would put iowa and clemson at 4*
maybe kentucky at 2*
besides that i agree with evreything

# 63 Tovarich @ 07/13/09 04:34 PM

The logic of this seems inconsistent to me. If Notre Dame hasn't won a relevant bowl game in about 20 years, why are they still a 6 star team, but I can take Idaho in the game and have them as a 6 star program in about 8 years, give or take a couple. If it's so insanely hard to lose prestige based on the initial ratings, this needds to be reflected by your prestige logic in the game.

Notre Dame absolutely needs to be down to 5, if not 4. I get the tradition from the 20s, but it's time to stop giving them a benefit for it. They just beat mighty Hawaii to end the longest bowl losing streak in history. This year they're going to play a very very easy schedule and rack up some wins, but it doesn't in any way mean that they're "back" to the glory days.

On the flip side, Alabama just got off probation that kept the program aspiring for mediocrity for the better part of a decade. They're basically 1 or 2 years removed from this, but they're right back up to 6 already? This conflicts with the Notre Dame logic...or there's nothing Notre Dame and Alabama could ever do to drop from 6 stars because they're historical powers.

Boise State similarly conflicts with this logic. They barely moved in to 1-A, in what the early to mid 90s? They've been great for the last 6 or so years, but based on the logic for Alabama and Notre Dame, 5 stars shouldn't be possible yet.

*homer alert* if Oregon is 5, then so is Oregon State. Virtually identical over the last 10 years. Only real difference is that Oregon markets itself better nationally, and Oregon State remains under the national radar, where they (we) prefer.

Arkansas being 3, doesnt seem to fit the logic either. One down year last year, but they've won the division recently, been on new years day a couple times recently. Doesn't seem to fit the logic either.

Marshall to a degree fits the Notre Dame logic. They were great for a mid-major under Bob Pruett, but they've been bad for a few years now.

Syracuse also, historical tradition, absolutely miserable for several years now after being mediocre for most of the decade before. Giving them a 3 seems to indicate no one could decide which way to go because you've used 2 entirely different sets of logic in the teams mentioned.

Troy and Houston...2? Harsh.

Western Michigan a 1 is baffling. Clearly on a level above every 1 star team on that list. Not even close.

# 64 theharbinater @ 07/13/09 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by greenhead


	Alabama a 6 star? What a joke. They had one good season. They have a losing record 5 of their last 6 years, thanks to the fact they keep cheating and keep getting caught.

alabama not deserving a 6th star is an ok opinion and an understandable stance.

however, bama has only had 2 losing seasons in the last 6 years, in 2006 (6-7) and 2003 (4-9), not 5. bama has also had 2 seasons in those 6 years with 10+ wins, 2005 (10-2) and 2008 (12-2). the other 2 years were mediocre, though - 2004 (6-6) and 2007 (7-6).

# 65 BSherrod @ 07/13/09 04:39 PM

How does Alabama not deserve a 6 star rating? Honestly. Most historical powerhouses seem to have them and Alabama has fared just as well or better than them. Does Notre Dame not deserve it's ranking?

# 66 pistonchamps04 @ 07/13/09 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChicagoSparty


	Aren't ya'll breaking in a new QB too? Anyway, I'm taking us a little off course here. . . .

lol yep. and without even taking a snap in a real college game they think this kid is going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. i get such a kick out of this tool. he has his own website and he thinks he is gonna be the greatest QB who ever lived

http://www.qbforce.com/NEW2009/TATE/tates-home.html

Sam McGuffie, anyone?

# 67 dharrisfan2003 @ 07/13/09 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BORN4CORN


	My Big Ten Prestige Ratings Ohio State - 6* Michigan - 6* Penn St. - 5* Iowa - 4* Purdue - 3* Wisconsin - 3* Northwestern -3* Indiana - 2* Illinois - 3* Michigan St. - 4* Minnesota - 3* Also this leads to another good topic.. In dynasty mode under Conf. Prestige when dealing with recruiting, instead of saying Excellent or Poor, why not just average the stars and give us 4* or 3 and 1/2* instead?

Ohio State 6
Michigan 6
Penn State 5
Iowa 4
Michigan State 4
Wisconsin 4
Purdue 3
Northwestern 3
Illinois 3
Minnesota 3
Indiana 2

And MSU is on it's way up, for sure.

# 68 shmoeco @ 07/13/09 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsquigg


	You are and we are, but Tate Forcier and Denard Robinson are already better than what we had last year without even taking a snap. If I'm not mistaken, you all will be experiencing a little inexperienced QB syndrome as well. I revert back to a formula I came up with: Talent > Experience. But only if you can't have both.

id say Nichol is pretty talented for MSU

# 69 ChicagoSparty @ 07/13/09 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsquigg


	You are and we are, but Tate Forcier and Denard Robinson are already better than what we had last year without even taking a snap. If I'm not mistaken, you all will be experiencing a little inexperienced QB syndrome as well. I revert back to a formula I came up with: Talent > Experience. But only if you can't have both.

Yup. Both contenders have game snaps at the D1 level, but very few.

# 70 ChicagoSparty @ 07/13/09 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dharrisfan2003


	Ohio State 6 Michigan 6 Penn State 5 Iowa 4 Michigan State 4 Wisconsin 4 Purdue 3 Northwestern 3 Illinois 3 Minnesota 3 Indiana 2

Agreed. In fact, I would put UW ahead of MSU if that is the 3/4 dividing line.

# 71 jeremym480 @ 07/13/09 04:50 PM

LMAO, at all the Homer's in this thread. But, then again Bama's has 6 star's.

# 72 Tovarich @ 07/13/09 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSherrod


	How does Alabama not deserve a 6 star rating? Honestly. Most historical powerhouses seem to have them and Alabama has fared just as well or better than them. Does Notre Dame not deserve it's ranking?

If they want to make the historical powers all 6 stars, then the logic needs to be consistent to fit with everyone else. If Notre Dame and Alabama are going to be 6 stars always no matter what, then the game should make it impossible for them to lose it because the fact that they are historical powers will never change. My disagreement is more with the logic than with their decisions. It's not consistent with what they pick before the game is finalized, and how the game treats it once you're into a dynasty.

# 73 wisecav @ 07/13/09 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pistonchamps04


	lol yep. and without even taking a snap in a real college game they think this kid is going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. i get such a kick out of this tool. he has his own website and he thinks he is gonna be the greatest QB who ever lived http://www.qbforce.com/NEW2009/TATE/tates-home.html Sam McGuffie, anyone?

Don't forget his brother's transfer speech.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BORN4CORN


	My Big Ten Prestige Ratings Ohio State - 6* Michigan - 6* Penn St. - 5* Iowa - 4* Purdue - 3* Wisconsin - 3* Northwestern -3* Indiana - 2* Illinois - 3* Michigan St. - 4* Minnesota - 3*

I agree with all these. I still think Penn State could be a 6*. Don't wanna make Utah fan's upset.

# 74 pistonchamps04 @ 07/13/09 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsquigg


	You are and we are, but Tate Forcier and Denard Robinson are already better than what we had last year without even taking a snap. If I'm not mistaken, you all will be experiencing a little inexperienced QB syndrome as well. I revert back to a formula I came up with: Talent > Experience. But only if you can't have both.

here are the facts buddy. i know quite a few players who were recruited and offered by ur buddy DickRod. they guy has the nickname for a reason. he has dick for a personality. he can't even recruit in his own state, and don't give me that "oh well he just recruits nationally" garbage, because quite frankly when it comes down to trying to run with the ball or catch the ball in 20 and 30 degree weather, and when it comes down to the rivalries against MSU and OSU, these kids won't understand and will treat it like a normal game.

Lloyd Carr...now that was a winner. that was a man with class. that was a man that i could respect, even as someone at State. but your buddy Rodriguez is a joke.

here's a few videos for you to watch just to prove my point

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoid=50706848

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoID=50708290

oh, and P.S., none of the actual UM - ANN ARBOR alumni (Flint and Dearborn are kinda a joke) that i know actually believe that he'll be around in 3 years. they believe the program is headed in the wrong direction, not because of his record, but because of his overall style

# 75 auburntigersfan @ 07/13/09 04:56 PM

Clemson should definitely not be a 3 star, they should be a 4 star.

# 76 pistonchamps04 @ 07/13/09 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wisecav


	Don't forget his brother's transfer speech. I agree with all these. I still think Penn State could be a 6*. Don't wanna make Utah fan's upset.

lol at that speech

and yeah, i think those ratings are all correct and i do think that Penn State should probably be a 6 if Michigan is 6. OSU is without a doubt a 6

# 77 pistonchamps04 @ 07/13/09 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shmoeco


	id say Nichol is pretty talented for MSU

yeah, 2 qb's who were in the Elite 11 camp in high school on this years roster, and it was just announced that the qb we have coming in next year will be in the Elite 11 camp too. no big deal.

# 78 STLcardz-NDirish @ 07/13/09 05:01 PM

just one of the hundreds of reaons why its great to be a Notre Dame fan. my 6* rating to start a dynasty. haha

# 79 Sublime12089 @ 07/13/09 05:05 PM

USF is only a 3 still? The same as UCF? Look at the two programs accomplishments and tell me they deserve the same.

# 80 sportzbro @ 07/13/09 05:05 PM

The thing that sucks about these ratings is they were figured in the same manner as the banter in this thread - back & forth about teams until we come to an agreement... maybe.

The developers/designers sit down and talk about it..That's it. There isn't a system, or a logical way to determine them..its just conversation, and they move on. There should be a deeper method to figuring this imo. It may be a small part of the overall game, but it goes a long ways in dynasty..

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