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FloridaFringe

08-27-2004, 12:10 AM

Bonegavel,

The "difficulty" thread on the CoH boards was deleted before I could respond. It's sad that a simply conversation can get so ugly so quickly from only a few idiots. O'well, here is what I was going to post:

Sorry I missed that bit of info in your post, it’s late and I’ve been working way too long today.

Well hopefully they will increase the hit points significantly so that tanks and such can become more useful (or even useful at all) in larger groups. I would also like to see an increase in mob numbers for higher-level zones such as the difference that Perez Park initially makes to level 8-14 characters. Having to fight 6 or so mobs in Kings Row and then having to fight 12-15 mobs in PP really made a nice difference. If the same were true for such places as Boomtown and Faultline then it could really go a long way towards helping the situation for the better. Imagine having to fight 40 or 50 mobs with a 6-8 man group without having to herd them together. Sounds great to me.

I completely understand where you are coming from though but it doesn't really effect me all that much since my groups are usually only 3-4 players at a time. It would be nice to have the initial feeling of your heart dropping in your chest just by the mere sight of certain groups of mobs. To invoke a feeling of challenge before your team even engages the enemy is something that they should be looking into. Chances are that they understand this issue better than we could even imagine so my bet is that they are already working on it.

It should be noted that I haven't left the 20s yet so I cannot comment on the end game but rather only the mid game so far. I can tell you without hesitation that I am still enjoying the game for what it's currently worth but I can also tell you that the more difficult battles are without a doubt more enjoyable in the end.

Raiders Army

08-27-2004, 06:02 AM

It was also nice that we had almost everyone there last night:

Project Virus
Aucoin
Albino Claw
Gail-Force
Cometflash
Don the Baptist
Silver Streak

Great job by everyone last night. I wasn't even hitting the 35s most of the time during that one fight, and I pretty much had to use aim and buildup to hurt them. As a side note, did anyone else notice that the defenders/controllers could hold them, but we couldn't hit them as well?

Bonegavel

08-27-2004, 07:21 AM

Bonegavel,

The "difficulty" thread on the CoH boards was deleted before I could respond. It's sad that a simply conversation can get so ugly so quickly from only a few idiots. O'well, here is what I was going to post:

Sorry I missed that bit of info in your post, it’s late and I’ve been working way too long today.

Totally understand and those morons hijacked that thread into the recycle bin.

What is interesting to me is that large groups are challenging at one point in the game - Late teens to lower 20s. After that, groups larger than 3 or 4 roll over everything. Up to level 14, the game is almost unplayable IMHO especially after logging hundreds of hours above that. Not having a speedy travel power until 14 is almost torture.

Soloing in the mid to late 20s is very viable and is just about the only challenge left. 2 to 3 is still fun, but there is usually more than 2 SG members on at a time and you can't deny them a spot on the team. That's what the SG is for and I wouldn't have it any other way. To tell an SG member "no, you can't join cause its no fun" isn't the game I want to play.

What they should do is really make the zones (red/yellow) mean something. When you go into the red zone, you better have your game-face on. While they are at it, why not add more zone colors and ratchet up the difficulty even more. That would add selection.

And the missions (which used to be a challenge with larger groups) are now a joke. Last night, our group was taking on 33/34 mobs in Bricks and when we get to the mission, they are a bunch of 30s. It was a cakewalk. Statesman did say that he was going to add some sort of difficulty setting on the missions which would be a godsend. Not sure why it wasn't built in to start as it seems easy enough to present the team leader with a box and letting them choose from Cakewalk to Impossible.

I guess it is good that I care so damn much about it, because normally this level of frustration would just cause me to lose interest. But, I was fortunate enough to have moments in the game where it was awe inspiring and I just want them to get each part of the game to be like that.

I will say that if this next Issue is just new tilesets and mob skins, I will put the game down for a while to recharge the batteries. I will give this game some time to mature as I think it has that much potential.

C.J.

08-27-2004, 08:02 AM

As a side note, did anyone else notice that the defenders/controllers could hold them, but we couldn't hit them as well?

I was missing a fair amount of the time too on those 35's, but all of my hold powers are 6-slotted with accuracy enhancements, mostly DO's. I have multiple holds too, so even the one's that miss, should get hit the 2nd or 3rd one I throw.

C.J.

08-27-2004, 08:06 AM

I posted a few screenshots on my blog this morning...unfortunately I didn't get any of us in battle. Hmm...maybe I was too busy battling. Enjoy:

CoH Blog (http://cj-coh.blogspot.com)

hoopsguy

08-30-2004, 11:32 PM

CoH crowd has been quiet here the last few days, although still showing up in the game with strong numbers. Saw AoQ, Bonegavel, Raiders, GI, and CJ over last two days and now have Don right smack in the middle of Level 27. Thanks to everyone for the help bumping up the levels ... being out for awhile set the Baptist back a little bit.

Had kind of an interesting end of the evening as there were a crew of eight or so 5th Column sitting outside the Mutation store in IP. Level 36 5th column, which is a load for the regular heros in that town. I recruited our sometimes-comrade Merciless Ming to help me out with them, but he was "only" 29, so we were basically useless against the one that I managed to pull. Even with Invincibility I'm not hitting guys that are nine levels higher. And obviously not damaging them as a tanker. Eventually someone blasted through all of them with the quickness ... happened so fast I wasn't able to see what level the guy was.

Also, I've got a few new contacts that are looking for timed missions for the initial draw. I would love to have some help with the timed ones ... us tankers are kinda slow in working through the crowds going solo.

08-31-2004, 06:31 AM

I should be on tonight. Pretty Boy needs 27.

08-31-2004, 07:53 AM

The Man...the Myth...the third eye?

THE DON

http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/083004/screenshot_0005.jpg

Raiders Army

08-31-2004, 07:55 AM

I'll be on tonight, but I probably won't be on beginning Sunday the 5th through Thursday the 9th. I am going to go with my dad to Pittsburgh for a stress test.

C.J.

08-31-2004, 12:34 PM

Saw this in an interview today....(although you all probably knew this already.)

GameSpy: Can you say anything about Issue #3?
Sullivan: We're introducing something top secret, but I can say that it adds a new dimension of gameplay that we haven't seen in this game yet. It's non-combat leveling.

Just when I thought I couldn't wait for Issue#2, they drop info about #3.
Nice for us controllers and defenders that don't get XP first hand.

Raiders Army

08-31-2004, 04:21 PM

Quick update on the CD key dispute. NCSoft received my receipt, cds, and cd sleeve. They verified that I am the rightful owner of the game, and are sending them back to me. (BTW, they sent me a FEDEX express package to send them the above stuff, so I didn't have to pay postage). For my inconvenience, I am getting a free month of CoH. Pretty cool.

ageofquarrel

08-31-2004, 05:42 PM

Going to miss out on tonight. Have a class. Did they ever say why that other guy had the same key or whatever as you?

Raiders Army

08-31-2004, 06:00 PM

Never said why. The response was:

Thank you for sending your CD sleeve and receipt. The items you provided us verified ownership of the serial code and as such your account is no longer in dispute. We will inform you when we have shipped your items back to the mailing address you provided.

We understand that this process was an inconvenience, because of this we will be adding 30 days of game time to your City of Heroes game account to show our appreciation of your cooperation. Since these compensation requests are sent to another department to have completed, it may take some time for the actual change to take affect. However once we receive confirmation of the adjustment to your subscription time, we will contact you by email immediately.

Should you have any further questions regarding this issue, please respond to this email. Again, we greatly appreciate your patience and cooperation.

09-01-2004, 08:03 AM

Here a link to gamespot for info on update 2 and 3.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/08/31/news_6106190.html

Thomkal

09-01-2004, 10:52 AM

Have to say I was real bored by the end of the night with Cometflash. Hitting for one or two points of damage on purple to me mobs all night long wasn't my idea of fun. That is when I hit at all. And most of the time my one debuff wasn't hitting either, making my character particularly useless. It most cases I stayed back and watched everyone else fight while I was never in much danger unless I got up close with whirlwind.

Part of the problem I think is that we (we means me too) violated our own rule about just playing these chars on Tues/Thurs, letting some of us get ahead a few levels. Other problem is that even our group shouldn't have been able to take on mobs that are 5-10 (or more in some cases with me) levels higher than us with as much ease as we did.

I find the indoor missions more fun than hunting right now (though hunting sure gives you quick xp). The indoor missions are more cramped making it tougher to get away from the mobs, and have a storyline involved, even if the mission isn't one of mine.

09-01-2004, 10:55 AM

I agree...more missions, less hunting. Xp treadmill is not the reason I bought this game nor pay the monthly fee. I want fun first. Exp will come.

C.J.

09-01-2004, 12:00 PM

Cometflash sounds like he's having similar issues that I had with Translectron. Couldn't hit much even being sidekicked. And no travel power...ugh (except for siphon speed...which has to hit to be effective). Gail's having better luck hitting, but that's because of all the acc enhancements. But I can only hold purples for 3-5 seconds at most and then they break free. If it wasn't for Aucoin's candy and Hasten 3-slotted with recharge, I wouldn't be able to fire off holds every 5 seconds.

Dunno....I want XP as much as the next guy. I don't want to be stuck at lvl 22 for the next 2 months even if the story is fantastic. I'm itching to get to lvl 32 for pets. And I always hate being behind the pack, but I do like change of pace/scenery too. I'm fine with hunting, as long as that's not all we ever do. I'm really finding some of these new mission maps that I've never seen before interesting (like the temple one with the portals).

I did notice though, that after most everyone logged for the night, Albino and I went back to Independance Port for a little more hunting (just 2 of us). We were taking on lower lvl mobs, maybe 28's and 29's....and the XP was the same or greater than when I was fighting 33-35's with 8 teammates. Almost seems like the law of diminishing returns is causing larger teams that attack higher mobs to get less on their return than one would expect.

As far as the character thing on T/Th...prolly right. I play Gail ALL the time, simply because I'm trying to catch up to the rest of the group at high 20's. But, I do have other characters that I'd like to mess around with.

Raiders Army

09-01-2004, 12:45 PM

I unwittingly violated the Tues/Thurs rule I guess. I did not know that we were only supposed to play our chars on those days....as such, I guess I'm a big violator :) Then again, I came on CoH later than most of you, so I didn't bother to read the whole thread. Also, because most of you were 5-7 levels higher than me I began to play the game more and more. I still have the addiction to the game like I bought it yesterday.

Personally, I have no problem sking someone and the times I've been sked I didn't have problems hitting (but then again, I'm a blaster). I agree that with too many people, the risk/reward gets to be not worth playing other than seeing everyone. I think the best group that we could have is 3 people taking higher level mobs. Once the group gets to about five to six people, the xp becomes very small. Couple into that equation debt, and it almost seems as if you're not doing anything other than getting to play with your buds (which can be rewarding, but if you aren't progressing at the same rate, then it becomes frustrating).

C.J.

09-01-2004, 02:08 PM

Purple Patch is going to make it a waste to go after mobs more than +5 above your current level (I was SKed to lvl 28 fighting lvl 34-35's). They've adjusted the difficulty curve and capped the XP...you beat on mobs for a LONG time, and get marginal XP from it. Problem is too that if we fight mobs 0 to +3, with a group of 8 that is quite diverse with lots of buffs, holds, attacks, heals......they're too easy to take down then. We don't take much damage, and don't go through much END (unless Aucoin's dog has more of the Hershey squirts.)

Hmm...dunno...anyone got some ideas on stuff we could try? Taking into consideration the variance now in everyone's levels and the difference between hunting and missions...along with size of the teams and level of the mob.

Couple interesting threads:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1187794
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1092321

Bonegavel

09-01-2004, 03:47 PM

I think that we should never group larger than 4 . If 5 login, split 3 and 2 and fill up the teams accordingly as more log in. This sucks, though, as I like our team time. The large teams are snooze-fests.

The solo/duo aspect of the game is awesome. You can stretch yourself and fight larger mobs and never really feel the purple patch. Add a 3rd and things go faster or things get safer. Add a 4th and you start tickling the purple patch.

At 5+ it is a joke. Add to it the fact that we have great variation of characters: Tank, Scrappers, Blasters, Controllers, emp/debuff defenders. We are a diverse group and it makes the game way too easy. Statesman has mentioned as much on their forums.

I entered a discussion with somebody on the CoH forums and I was trying to explain that our SG, when all assembled, is unstoppable. We can take on anything that stretches up to the +5 cutoff for hitting. We saw what happened when we reached the +5 limit: nobody was hitting and it took 5 minutes to get only a few xp. But, thanks to Aucoin we were never in danger of dying. Just out of endurance (and not even that when sampling his candy).

But comet is right, since the purple patch we need to be VERY close in level for it to be fun for all. I'm not going to ask anyone not to play a character because of this and this is maybe where we split the groups up on tues/thurs. Try and keep everyone on a team within 2 levels of each other.

C.J.

09-01-2004, 06:01 PM

WOW....I'm playing Issue #2 now (damn...only 30 minutes to mess with it too) on the Test Server.....Capes look cool. I'm seeing all kinds of heroes with capes around here. There's changes to the interface window too...chat is streamlined and more configurable.

I'll play with it a little more if possible and give some more updates when I can.

Raiders Army

09-01-2004, 06:41 PM

How'd you get to do that, C.J.?

C.J.

09-01-2004, 07:24 PM

:D
Ancient chinese secret!

Naw, the instructions for how to do it is on the official COH website....go to the forums area and look for the "Test Server" forum.

I downloaded the 180 meg patch in preparation for playing it on the test server earlier this week. I knew it was going live soon, just didn't know when. Looks like they possibly dropped it today. Dunno, I'd have to read the forum more.

Well, didn't get to play it much yet, but it looks like to get your cape you have to visit a series of contacts (about 3 or 4) all in different zones to read part of the story about Hero 1. Explains about why no heroes had capes at first. EXCELLENT story even though it was fabricated to cover up the technical limitations on capes. After you visit contacts, I think you have to do a mission in Talos Island...I stopped there cause I had to eat dinner (and I'm a controller who can't fight well anyway.)

Just to tease you guys...I got a few screen shots before I left.....you can see Gail in them.

Capes Screenshot 1 (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/test-server/screenshot_2004-09-01-19-02-34.jpg)
Capes Screenshot 2 (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/test-server/screenshot_2004-09-01-19-03-50.jpg)
Capes Screenshot 3 (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/test-server/screenshot_2004-09-01-19-04-12.jpg)
Capes Screenshot 4 (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/test-server/screenshot_2004-09-01-20-31-06.jpg)

SCREENSHOTS: Screenshots are now saved as JPG's instead of TGA's. Yippee...no more file conversions.

CHAT: Looks like the chat window has "tabs" now...you can fully configure the tabs to have whatever types of messages you want on them. You can still stack top and bottom like before, but you can now eliminate the top and just go to a tabbed system. You can also minimize the chat window so it just has the prompt part (prolly good for soloing if you still need to issue bind commands but don't want the chat window up).

DANCE CLUB: HA....I know this is pretty useless, but serves as a way to get noobs and other socializers (sometimes I like to stand around too) away from the trainers. I found the dance club in Talos Island. I think it links to Steel Canyon because I found a door leading to SC. 9:19pm Update...the club appears to connect to IP and SC....they look like back door entrances to the club. Might be another way to go from zone to zone.
Dance Club Interior 1 (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/test-server/screenshot_2004-09-01-20-37-47.jpg)
Dance Club Interior 2 (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/test-server/screenshot_2004-09-01-20-38-09.jpg)
Dance Club Interior 3 (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/test-server/screenshot_2004-09-01-20-38-31.jpg)

CONTACTS: 9:25pm Contacts look like they got a cosmetic update in the drop down window....more color and depth.

FIND LIST: 9:30pm Last update for the night (I can't give EVERYTHING away).......Holy shit you should see how nice the "Find Heroes" screen is. MAJOR improvement.

C.J.

09-02-2004, 12:45 AM

http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/test-server/screenshot_2004-09-02-01-33-43.jpg

09-02-2004, 07:15 AM

Things look great. Update 3 should really improve things, and then City of Villians. Looks like they have a pretty good game here if they fix the high level end.

C.J.

09-02-2004, 08:10 AM

Gail's sporting the small cape there.....seems like not many people go for the small one (hmm...ego issues?) Not sure if a cape is right for Gail, never really planned for her to have one, but I figured I'd try it and see what it looks like.

Update is very cool...they have a list now of all the changes they made and it's huge.

I chatted with a few people on the Test Server, and it appears that the Purple Patch is still in effect....most likely here to stay.

Bonegavel

09-02-2004, 11:32 AM

can you toggle the cape? Meaning, if you don't want it on you can "take it off."

I too have been messing with the test server and the new section "The hollows" is a huge disappointment. It is like a mini-faultline.

The improvements to the interface are welcomed and the capes do look really nice.

C.J.

09-02-2004, 12:33 PM

can you toggle the cape? Meaning, if you don't want it on you can "take it off."

Nope...I don't see a way to do it. It appears that it becomes part of your costume. Same with aura's. If you want to change any of them, you'll need to make a trip to Icon and spend some more $$$ to get things changed.

Laddin

09-02-2004, 02:17 PM

How is City of Heroes Going??? I played from release date up until The end of June (Ended with a level 29 tanker and several other mid teen characters) quit to start playing Star Wars Galaxies.

Sounds like some of the same issues I was having when I quit. The mobs at your level are too easy, and the purple mobs just aren't worth the time and effort for the xp you get (I also remember lots of bugged storylines that I was never able to finish). But I didn't want to take your posts as meaning the game hasn't improved as it seems like you're still having a lot of fun playing it.

Oh and if you see Enigma Fist (virtue server I think), tell him Force of Nature says hi

C.J.

09-02-2004, 02:36 PM

CoH has it's quirky annoyances, but for the most part I'm still completely addicted to it...especially when they release new content.

What's really going to do me in and ruin my life completely is when The Matrix MMORPG comes out.

Bonegavel

09-02-2004, 02:44 PM

The game is still young (wonder how long i'm going to keep saying that) and so I'm giving them a break. Every MMO i've tried before bored me to tears in a week. This one has held my attention since it's release. That's something of a record for me.

They are working on the balance things and I may give them a monthly check until CoV comes out and then if there are still issues and CoV isn't fun, I'm done.

Bonegavel

09-02-2004, 02:45 PM

So, what characters are we brining to the table tonight?

Raiders Army

09-02-2004, 04:05 PM

I've got either Silver Streak on for high level, or White Napalm for low.

09-02-2004, 04:17 PM

Should be able to have your choice. We should have two groups tonight

hoopsguy

09-02-2004, 06:55 PM

Can go either way. I'm coming on early with Don to get the last few XP for level 28, but will be happy to play one of my 13-14 guys after that.

09-03-2004, 07:50 AM

Weird night. I ended up playing Inverness (15 Blaster) with Gail last night. I believe everyone else brought on lowbe alts. Fun night for me. How was the lowbe group?

Bonegavel

09-03-2004, 02:59 PM

Started a energy/energy blaster and I forgot how fun he was (modeled him exactly off of my very first character that is still active on Virtue). As i mentioned last night, my first char on Virtue has rest slotted a few times and I think sprint. Also, I got him to 20 before I knew you could select more than 1 power pool after 6 so he only has hover/fly in addition to his pri/sec powers. Boy is it going to be different this time around.

If we can, it would be nice to try and even up our mains and let everyone catch up to level 31.

Qwikshot

09-05-2004, 01:29 PM

Made it to 22, many many thanks to Silver Streak, Albino Claw, Cometflash, Aucion, and any others that made it possible.

I'm currently cleaving apart Dark Astoria, Single Origins are making me destroy things with reckless abandon.

Raiders Army

09-05-2004, 07:48 PM

Fellas, I'll be gone beginning tomorrow (Labor Day) and won't be back until Thursday night. I might make it on to play, but if I get home in time, I'll probably be watching football instead. :)

C.J.

09-07-2004, 07:14 AM

May not be on tonight for tues/thurs SG stuff. Gotta go to the parents place for din-din.
Gail-Force is level 23 now...almost halfway into 24. This is my main, so I'll try to get it up to everyone else's main's levels. I'd like to shoot for 32 actually. I get a sweet power at 32.....Singularity.
Hurricane power is becoming more and more useful than I thought it would be. It was a tossup between picking that one and whirlwind. I like hurricane for the -ACC and -Range debuffs and also the protection. Gail's going to get stamina next at 24 from the health pool. Yes, Aucoin gives nice candy out, but this should help for those times when there is no candy available.

09-07-2004, 08:08 AM

I have a date tonight and a Tigers baseball game. Doubtful I will be on tonight. NO CANDY FOR YOU!! :)

Thomkal

09-07-2004, 03:56 PM

Cometflash may or may not be on tonight. Have a football draft to attend at 9pm, but it could be short as we are doing a round at a time.

09-08-2004, 08:00 AM

How did it go last night for anyone who played? I at least now have a girlfriend. :)

Thomkal

09-08-2004, 01:09 PM

I did end up being able to play last night and with the help of both Albino Claw and Ming, Comet made it to 24th level! Sadly Claw died three times last night, but I did warn him to run the one time and he chose to stay. :) I get a new power at 24 of course, and Mutation sure would have been helpful last night with those deaths....but I went with Aim instead, knowing I'd be soloing to catch up, and knowing how helpful Aim has been for a couple of my characters.

But Mutation has intrigued me since I first had the chance to pick it, so unless I'm blown away with a new power choice at 26, I suspect I'll pick Mutation at last.

Dan

09-08-2004, 01:24 PM

Albino Claw recklessly ran into combat and died? I am so shocked!! Never would I ever think that could or would happen. He is the most stay at home player I know...

oh who am I kidding, without Aucoin, claw would be worm food a dozen times more!! :)

hoopsguy

09-08-2004, 07:26 PM

Dozen? Try a gross back in the early days :)

Thomkal

09-08-2004, 08:28 PM

just decided to pack it in for the night rather than try to return for just a half-hour before I would have to leave anyway. Sorry that my computer is a piece of crap right now. Hope I didn't leave you with a tough mission.

09-10-2004, 07:12 AM

Had a good time last night. Started with Aucoin and then had to switch to Broken Seal when we ran out of High level characters to sk all the low guys. Claw and I brought on our low guys. Good mix and xp was good. Broken Seal leveled to 9. Gail leveled. I think someone else leveled as well.

I probably will not be on much this weekend. Oh and silver streak is at what now? 33? He leveled when Aucoin was on.

C.J.

09-10-2004, 07:49 AM

I agree...last night was a good night of SG gaming. Except when Broken Seal pulled an Albino and jumped right into the middle of mobs ahead of the group only to be left with a sliver of health or just outright get defeated. ha ha. He better thank Gail for deciding to 6-slot her O2 boost with SO heal enhancements (thanks SilverStreak!) A controller doing the work of a empathy defender....sigh. Thanks to everyone that helped generate the XP to get Gail up to lvl 24. Everyone was on top of their game last night and doing excellent work. Sucks that non-damage dealing characters can't directly generate XP (Gail tries with forklifts and cars), but hopefully we made things go faster and kept everyone alive and out of debt more.

Stay strong defenders and controllers! Issue 3 is when our time comes! Non-combat leveling will be ours soon.

Raiders Army

09-10-2004, 11:20 AM

I'm level 32 :)

Issue #2 is out!!!!

Raiders Army

09-10-2004, 11:31 AM

Correction, just downloaded 145 MBs in anticipation of Issue #2 on live servers.

C.J.

09-10-2004, 01:03 PM

Man 145 mb. I'll have to start that download tonight. Only have a 112k (double modem speed basically) connection at home. Not exactly "high-speed" access.

Qwikshot

09-10-2004, 01:48 PM

Download done.

Incidently I think Dark Astoria is overrated. I was getting hit hard there and I die consistently due to the shamans (that I miss) or from a barrage of bullseye hits on me.

Whereas I was in Independence Port and able to gulp XP. Yeah I need to avoid some underboss/consigs if I'm not fully powered up (and without any inspirations) but it seems I can dominate purples and reds in IP that I struggle with in DA.

Finally, I cringed seeing the download after I logged off. Smoke Grenade is parting (unless I want to six slot it, and right now stamina takes priority when I finally get it).

What is scary is that I can move smoothly from pack to pack (with a little stamina regain) and simply mow down opponents.

Once I get stamina, things will even get better. Hang is pretty much a minion killer with no real issues with family lieutenants (shamans and stunners are a different story).

Still at 23, but halfway to 24, if I was around this weekend, no doubt I could get it.

Raiders Army

09-14-2004, 03:32 PM

Wow. Nobody's posted in this thread for a while. I haven't played much due to the advent of the NFL season, Madden, and NCAA taking up my time. I will be on tonight. Anyone else?

09-14-2004, 03:35 PM

Should be there tonight. Though I just got the 3rd season of Alias and it might suck me in.

Thomkal

09-14-2004, 06:25 PM

Cometflash MAY be on after 10 PM EST, but not 100% sure of that, so don't look too hard for me. :)

Qwikshot

09-14-2004, 10:40 PM

Made it, but solo'd. Accomplished 24, and after two hours in Terra Volta, 25. So I'm quite happy with myself.

Qwikshot

09-15-2004, 03:05 AM

As if my life wasn't any sadder...got to 26 at 4 in the morning.

Thomkal

09-15-2004, 06:51 AM

My god, I need to get Cometflash to Terra Volta. :) Congrats Qwik

Raiders Army

09-15-2004, 07:03 AM

Hey Quik, are you doing the fire/dev blaster powerlevel? Is it really that good?

C.J.

09-15-2004, 08:24 AM

damn you damage dealers. Got it easy. It's taken me over 2 weeks to go from lvl 20 to 25 with my controller.

Qwikshot

09-15-2004, 11:18 AM

Hey Quik, are you doing the fire/dev blaster powerlevel? Is it really that good?
Yes and no.

Yes if issue 2 wasn't coming out.

No because issue 2 is coming out.

For all of those willing to try, and you higher level guys probably will find good clusters, but not as good as a guy who is 24.

Enter TV and head right, before the road goes down an incline, check to the right (probably the 2nd building closest to the wall), should be a cluster of captains there.

Then go across the street, past the building (which should be to your left) heading towards I think a water tower.

As you finish passing the building, another cluster to the left.

There is a smaller building further in the back, go behind it, another cluster.

Rinse and repeat, I ignore any other spawn points.

Captains were netting me almost 150 xp per kill, and there were other weaker units sprinkled in.

I didn't attack any freakshow or anything like that.

Another bonus these units are tightly compacted which means easier to kill with firebreath and other AOEs.

Now that issue 2 is coming out, Smoke Grenade which was critical to not getting killed doing this, is going to be phased down (to the point you need to six slot it), this won't be as safe to do (hence why I decided to seriously powerlevel).

I grabbed AIM, rather than Cloaking Device, AIM has a short time boost to my Alpha Strike which I think will be handier.

I know have stamina, I've got it 3 slotted with endurance recovery (SOs) and plan to six slot (It has made a great difference, but I'm still a take a breather junkie).

I'm now outleveled the clusters I've found to the point that they are blue and greens, so I will have to look for some other clusters now, but no complaints, it greatly bridged the gap I have between all of you guys.

Fire/Devices will still be powerful because of trip mine, but that means it will probably be toned down at some point as well.

Hopefully this Thursday I can hang out with the gang and prove my worth.

Raiders Army

09-15-2004, 01:15 PM

Well, it is interesting to see how it works, and how it works so well. I'm jealous because I went electric/electric. :)

Oh, by the way, you don't have to "prove your worth." To me, having another blaster along is good enough!

09-15-2004, 01:21 PM

Doesn't matter who you are, just more meat to heal for the pretty boy... :)

Qwikshot

09-15-2004, 02:05 PM

Bonegavel

09-16-2004, 12:48 PM

Update 2 went live today!

I'm on tonight for sure.

09-16-2004, 12:51 PM

I'm going to be behind. MBA kicks in next week. New girlfriend is taking my free time. So I am sure Gail will do the healing for me :p

Real boobies before pixel ones...man has to have priorities... :D

Bonegavel

09-16-2004, 01:05 PM

I appreciate the support, but I felt bad because I was lagging. Hangfire works because I could accumulate xp points at a nice pace without struggling. I had a fire/fire controller and couldn't get it past 5, and he would've been plain useless unless I went with other groups. Hangfire can at least tag alone with Don, Silver, Gale, Aucoin, Albino, Comet, PV, and the rest of the group.
With the new reverse sidekick feature who gives a shit what level you are. I know that sk'ing is a pain in the ass (having to stay relatively close) but it beats not being able group at all.

I'm excited for the new content tonight and hope we can all (i see gi is bailing on us :D) be there to check out the new stuff.

Do we want to create complete n00bs, go with our teen scrubs, or go full bore with the High-n-mighties? It doesn't matter to me, i'll do what the majority wants.

09-16-2004, 01:07 PM

(i see gi is bailing on us :D)

Only for tonight! :D

Qwikshot

09-16-2004, 01:08 PM

With the new reverse sidekick feature who gives a shit what level you are. I know that sk'ing is a pain in the ass (having to stay relatively close) but it beats not being able group at all.

I'm excited for the new content tonight and hope we can all (i see gi is bailing on us :D) be there to check out the new stuff.

Do we want to create complete n00bs, go with our teen scrubs, or go full bore with the High-n-mighties? It doesn't matter to me, i'll do what the majority wants.
Well, recall that there are aliens attacking Paragon right now as we speak. I don't mind sk'ing but I do feel that I was causing everyone else to be held back. I feel now I'm far more advanced, (even with an impotent smoke grenade) to hang with the group now.

I'll be on ASAP, though I wish I had a girlfriend (I hate 2nd shift).

Thomkal

09-16-2004, 01:16 PM

I've been on as Blue Boltsman and others today. Much excitement over Issue #2 going live, the same questions being asked over and over. :) Capes mission is in, go to atlas Park City Hall to the lady inside the enterance to start it. Respec trial is up-in terra volta I believe. The Hollows is live, got a look at it, and was surprised when the outcasts I fought used things like stone cages on me. :) Some new outcast minions (coolers and torches).

Portals would open at random in most (all?) zones with Rulaa whatever they are spilling out of them. Since they are at random, it was hard to find an active one, but got a quick look at some of the new mobs there, giant eyeballs and such. :)

Comet should be on tonight, but you don't need to start a newbie to get the Hollows Missions. My 9th, 10th, and 12th level chars I tried today were all given a Hollows mission where you go and get a Hollows contact. Stay put when you get the mission in the Hollows, three or four of the Kill Outcasts/Trolls will come to you at the start. I say we do our low level chars in the Hollows, but I'm game for whatever

Bad-example

09-16-2004, 02:44 PM

I have been reading the official boards, trying to decide if I want to give CoH another shot. Scrapper is the only AT that interests me at this point. I still have Professor Ion (Dark/Inv-lvl 14) and Gumbercules (Dark/Regen-lvl 8). I will do more research but would appreciate any advice about scrappers.

Invulnerability and Regen seem like the best choices for defense. Dark, Spines and Claw all look pretty interesting on the offensive side.

Since I often have only 20-30 minutes to play in a session, the ability to solo is pretty key for me.

Raiders Army

09-16-2004, 03:24 PM

I'm good for tonight either with Silver Streak or White Napalm. I'd like to do the Respec trial with the heavies sometime though. Since Aucoin won't be on tonight, I vote we postpone any Respec trial to wait for him.

09-16-2004, 03:26 PM

Thank you! I'd like to have Trans catch up too. Then respec us all. Up to him. Tuesday Respec Trial then?

Raiders Army

09-16-2004, 06:47 PM

Don agreed for Tuesday, and Albino Claw reluctantly agreed. :)

PV was on, and said that he might have trouble making it on Thursdays due to a new job (UPS). (Gratz to him!!!!)

I did capes and aura missions....not too hard, just a lot of running around. Gotta watch Survivor and the Apprentice tonight!

Qwikshot

09-16-2004, 07:07 PM

Aura missions?

09-17-2004, 08:21 AM

Heard things went very well. Missions were actually challenging and people were dying. Sorry Aucoin wasn't there to save your butt. Tuesday I will be.

Raiders Army

09-17-2004, 08:30 AM

Yep, you can get electric, glowy, etc. around your body, torso or fists. Just choose the other mission from the city representative in Atlas.

C.J.

09-17-2004, 09:11 AM

Thank you! I'd like to have Trans catch up too. Then respec us all. Up to him. Tuesday Respec Trial then?

Did you say Trans? Can't respec until lvl 24....trans is only 20.
Trans isn't a good fit for this team. Aucoin has all the candy and health buffs to give out that trans would be useless in that area. And as far as damage buffs, we seem to do quite well with out them. Other than damage buffs, trans is quite useless (for now at least). Transference and fulcrum shift are when trans will be usefull.

As for Gail, now she rocks...being our only regular controller (from what I can tell), I love playing that character. BTW did anyone notice she changed tops last night?

hey, anyone want to see some screenshots of Cometflash's new cape. We worked so hard to get it for him, I figured I'd stick around and get some pix so he could show it off....

Comet Cape 1 (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/091604/screenshot_2004-09-16-23-49-55.jpg)
Comet Cape 2 (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/091604/screenshot_2004-09-16-23-50-11.jpg)
Comet Cape 3 (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/091604/screenshot_2004-09-16-23-50-51.jpg)
Comet Cape 4 (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/091604/screenshot_2004-09-16-23-50-56.jpg)

Raiders Army

09-17-2004, 09:46 AM

Wow. Just finished reading the boards at CoH. It seems as if you need the right mix of ATs at the same level for the respec trial. I don't consider our group a bunch of slouches and those people there seem pretty frickin whiny to me, but when they describe waves of +3 bosses for the highest level character coming at you, I see a lot of debt coming my way. Hopefully they'll change this by Tuesday.

ageofquarrel

09-17-2004, 10:35 AM

Yeah I start my new job on Monday and will probably only be able to play until 10 pm on thursdays. I also have been missing tuesdays because of class. Oh well, hopefully you guys can handle the respec trial w/o me. Also, I think that there is a lvl range for it so a 30+ guy cant do it with a lvl 24, but I am not sure. Hopefully it will work out.

I dont really understand the reverse sidekicking thing. Does it keep SO enhancements in your powers that you still have. Because I noticed that I had never dipped below 75% on my end bar. Witch never would have happened when I was Lvl 24.

Bonegavel

09-17-2004, 10:51 AM

According to devs, when you reverse sidekick you keep your SOs and they are scaled down but still more powerful than if you were just at the new level.

Last night was fun. Wish i could have stayed for comet's caping. Had to get up at 5:30 this morning. Probably going to be on tonight and give update 2 another work out. The bitching on the CoH forums is almost out of control and is funny to read.

Well done Comet!

C.J.

09-17-2004, 11:03 AM

Yeah, those CoH boards are ridiculous sometimes.
Soooo many people out there whining about things. First they all say they want mobs to be more challenging. And then when they make them more challenging everyone says its too hard.

I actually enjoyed getting defeated a few times last night, and being imobilized on numerous occasions. The debt wasn't too bad, and honestly the XP payoff was quite sizeable overall.

I learned something though failing the cape mission a few times before we did it last night. That time capsule has to be protected....every time I've failed it before last night it was because the team was casually fighting mobs from the outside in, and not paying attention to the capsule. Gail's hurricane seemed to do the trick, as it kept villans away from the capsule while all our talented damage dealers took care of business. Now that's teamwork at it's best, which is why the cape mission went so well for us. I think we could easily do the respec trial with this group.

Bonegavel

09-17-2004, 11:05 AM

Can't wait to respec AC. They should fix the rikti damage bug by then. I may even try to solo it this weekend.

Thomkal

09-17-2004, 11:05 AM

Big thanks to Hangfire, Virus, and especially Gail for staying to help Comet get his cape. Those pics rock!

You'll notice you can have different colors on the outside of the cape and the inside of the cape. I was going to go all sickenly neon green, but I spared you, and only have it on the inside. You have a choice of three different clasps (don't think that's the right word, but its how the cape is attached to your costume), numerous brooches to connect the clasps (which I didn't use because it didn't look good on Comet's costume), and different lengths and styles of your cape. Many of the same designs you use on your costume can be used on the cape as well.

My excitement over the cape was tempered somewhat when I came out of Icon and saw two other characters with exactly the same cape and pattern. :) At least they had different colors.

Comet now officially looks cooler than the rest of you!

I think during our "off days" until Tuesday, we should get our "middies" together and go through the Hollows missions. I really liked how the outcast mobs were actually using superpowers there. That (along with the lack of different mission interiors) was my biggest beef with COH in the beginning because I felt it was stupid to not have newbies get the chance to fight somebody with superpowers early on. Now that I can do that though, it does make even minions a bit tough to take on. :)

Qwikshot

09-17-2004, 12:27 PM

The debt I have was worth the missions last night, I'm probably going to go back and do missions now because they will be challenging, have decent xp, and frankly I'm unsure if Hangfire can actually hunt on his own anymore.

C.J.

09-17-2004, 12:32 PM

Hey, did anyone read somewhere that having a cape will be more than a visual bonus at some point? I thought I read that it can be used down the road to enhance powers or abilities.

09-17-2004, 12:43 PM

Last I heard the idea of capes doing more is being tossed around. Maybe for the 3rd big patch/upgrade.

Bad-example

09-17-2004, 12:55 PM

I currently have 4 scrappers I am toying with, trying to find a build I like.

DM/Invul - Good for bosses and lts...hangs in fights very well, but frequently in danger of running outta gas.

DM/Regen - Can't hang in fights as long as the Invul build.

Katana/Regen - Seems like a decent combo so far...has trouble with bosses.

Spines/Regen - Just played this one a little last night...too soon to get a read on this one.

Bonegavel

09-17-2004, 01:50 PM

For what it's worth BE, I love my claws/regen. He was tough going (probably due to my inexperience more than anything) until the early 20s. The 5% criticals have been a godsend (all scrappers have this) and there is just something about mixing it up face-to-face that is awesome. Doesn't hurt that I am a big fan of Wolverine.

The devs really seem to be doing good things for each AT (archetype) that are "gimped" and i hope they can differentiate all of them enough to make them worth leveling to 50 (as I hope to do one day). Super Strength got some love this last Update and all tanker and defender attack powers received a endurance reduction which is a nice little tweak.

I'm going to be on tonight and with the new reverse sidekicking I don't think it matters which character you bring to the party.

Was enjoying the new UI update and found a decent chat window setup that features 1 window only with tabs to seprate the messages. Combat has a tab, as does SG-Team chat, local-broadcast-request, etc. You can still miss messages as only team chat has an audible tone, but I don't miss all the spam but can easily access it if i need.

See you tonight!

Bad-example

09-17-2004, 08:29 PM

Thanks for the feedback BG. I created a Claws/Invul scrapper to toy with a bit. That one attack animation is pretty funny...looks like I am winding up to throw a fastball heh. A little more research and I will be ready to start levelling one of my guys.

Raiders Army

09-17-2004, 08:57 PM

Well, that mission was hard, and we didn't finish it. I'm about done for tonight. Gotta make the wife happy. It was a sense of accomplishment when we finally beat the boss in the room, but oy, I died twice, PV died once (or twice), and I think Albino Claw bit it. Thankfully, Don came to the rescue.

I could level if I played this weekend a bit, but I think I'll hold off to level until during the respec trial. I think that way, PV, AC, and I will all be level 32 as opposed to bringing +3 level 33s into the missions.

Bad-example

09-19-2004, 11:42 AM

I decided to try playing a katana/regen scrapper. Dancing Steel is now available for lowbie action...just hit level 5.

C.J.

09-20-2004, 07:29 AM

Gail-Force should be on for respec mission on tuesday.
Funny thing is I'm only changing one thing....taking out Propel and replacing with Crush. Yeah, no more flying forklifts...buh-bye. Helped in the lower levels when I could actually solo a few missions, but somewhat useless now. Besides, I'd rather trade it in for a power that is more useful to a controller. Crush is actually a hold power, whereas propel isn't.

09-20-2004, 07:43 AM

Aucoin finnally started Leadership with achieveing Level 28 last night. Thanks to Gail and PV for sticking around for my level. I actually died three times last night. WOW! About time. New patch is great. :)

C.J.

09-20-2004, 10:21 AM

now now.....no one really dies in COH...you were defeated.
:)

funny that the game is more enjoyable now because of that though....aucoin may have to work extra hard now that the patch upped the difficulty level a little.

Thomkal

09-20-2004, 11:08 AM

Thanks as well to those who helped Comet (and Gail) make it to 26 last night. Now if (if hah! I make myself laugh some times) you should die, I can turn you into a walking undead with mutation. :) As I said last night though its kinda weird that you have to die before I can use two of my radiation powers. (Fallout, which I'm still likely to get when I respec PV, sorry :) )

I may not be able to be there for the respec mission as it turns out-stayed tuned to your COH channel to find out for sure.

hoopsguy

09-20-2004, 06:33 PM

Bad-example

09-21-2004, 03:36 AM

Meh. I cleared the mission map for the Jewel of Hera mission 5 times but no victory. The last time I had a Life Mage nearly dead...instead of self-destructing he warped to a place under the floor where I couldn't get to him. I petitioned again but have not heard from anyone in game...frustrating.

Good luck on the respec mission!

Raiders Army

09-21-2004, 05:54 AM

And I am now officially out for Tuesday as well. Have to work that night, which is starting to become a theme as of late. Going through some transition with a guy leaving and my workload is really ratcheting up. So I'm going to be hit-or-miss over the next few weeks, I would expect.

Well, that sucks. Was really looking forward to having you along! As for everyone else, who else is on for tonight? I'll be there with Silver Streak.

09-21-2004, 06:41 AM

Aucoin is showing up...but I'm not sure if I need to respec. I'll have to double check the hero planner. I'll still be there to help out. ETA around 8pm.

Qwikshot

09-21-2004, 11:37 AM

Hang is probably out...sorry

Thomkal

09-21-2004, 12:05 PM

I can be there for the respec mission tonight, but I'm taping Big Brother and Amazing Race to do so. So if there's not going to be enough of us to do the mission, I'll skip playing tonight. :)

Who else besides myself will be there tonight then? Enough to do the respec? Are the ones who really wanted to respec going to be there?

Raiders Army

09-21-2004, 12:07 PM

This is true Thomkal. I'm willing to postpone the respec...or if we can't get together, maybe we should do it by ourselves with others. I'm close to level 33 with Silver Streak and I'm close to level 14 with White Napalm, so I'm willing to play either. Thursday night is a bad night for me, since Survivor and the Apprentice is on. I know, I'm a Mark Burnett whore. ;)

09-21-2004, 12:21 PM

Raiders Army, Thomkal, GI, CJ at least for tonight.

Bonegavel

09-21-2004, 02:24 PM

Albino Claw will be present. Wife is out for a bit tonight... she says 7-8 (EST) but you never know. Will be on as soon as I possibly can. What time are we talking?

I want respec bad.

09-21-2004, 02:27 PM

I'll get there around 8pm. Aucoin doesn't need respec, but I will assist any who do.

Bonegavel

09-21-2004, 03:10 PM

Here's my first respec with Hero Planner. Comments welcome.

Archetype: Scrapper
Primary Powers - Melee : Claws
Secondary Powers - Defense : Regeneration
Slot[01] Level 1 (Starting Primary) : Strike /Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[02] Level 1 (Starting Secondary) : Fast Healing /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[03] Level 2 : Reconstruction /Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[04] Level 4 : Quick Recovery /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[05] Level 6 : Slash(Claw) /Empty
Slot[06] Level 8 : Combat Jumping /Empty
Slot[07] Level 10 : Swift /Empty,Empty
Slot[08] Level 12 : Swipe /Empty
Slot[09] Level 14 : Super Jump /Empty
Slot[10] Level 16 : Hasten /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[11] Level 18 : Integration /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[12] Level 20 : Focus /Empty
Slot[13] Level 22 : Health /Empty
Slot[14] Level 24 : Stamina /Empty
Slot[15] Level 26 : Eviscerate /Empty,Empty
Slot[16] Level 28 : Instant Healing /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[17] Level 30 : Dull Pain(Regen) /Empty
Slot[18] Level 32 : Resilience /Empty

Trying to keep in mind that i may be reverse sk'ing, I wanted a smattering of attacks throughout.

Now, if I wasn't worrying about reverse sk'ing, this is my build

Archetype: Scrapper
Primary Powers - Melee : Claws
Secondary Powers - Defense : Regeneration
Slot[01] Level 1 (Starting Primary) : Strike /Empty,Empty
Slot[02] Level 1 (Starting Secondary) : Fast Healing /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[03] Level 2 : Reconstruction /Empty,Empty
Slot[04] Level 4 : Quick Recovery /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[05] Level 6 : Slash(Claw) /Empty,Empty
Slot[06] Level 8 : Combat Jumping /Empty
Slot[07] Level 10 : Dull Pain(Regen) /Empty
Slot[08] Level 12 : Hasten /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[09] Level 14 : Super Jump /Empty,Empty
Slot[10] Level 16 : Integration /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[11] Level 18 : Focus /Empty
Slot[12] Level 20 : Swift /Empty
Slot[13] Level 22 : Health /Empty
Slot[14] Level 24 : Stamina /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[15] Level 26 : Resilience /Empty
Slot[16] Level 28 : Instant Healing /Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty,Empty
Slot[17] Level 30 : Eviscerate /Empty
Slot[18] Level 32 : Spin /Empty

Raiders Army

09-21-2004, 03:28 PM

Question, does it really matter what order you get stuff in, other than exemplaring to someone?

Also, just got an added bonus for tonight: oldest son has an open house at school and the wife expects me to go. Here's the kicker, it starts at 6 EST and lasts two hours, fifteen minutes. We'll get an intro, and then go period by period through his day. I'd rather just rush in, talk to the stupid teachers (not all of them, just the ones with whom I have problems), and get home as soon as possible. Sadly, that may not happen. I will be on NLT 8:30 EST.

Bonegavel

09-21-2004, 03:33 PM

The exemplar stuff is my concern. Don helped one of my lowbies out the other day and this brought home that it matters in what order you pick things.

Thomkal

09-21-2004, 06:40 PM

what the hell is exemplar? :)

Raiders Army

09-21-2004, 10:14 PM

Exemplar is the reverse side-kick.

Well, that was interesting. We didn't make it because somebody rushed into the reactor and died and caused everyone else to die (that would be me). The Sky Raiders are supposed to be the easiest mission, but if that's true, man...I'd hate to see the Freakshow and Rikti.

Aucoin, Gail-Force, Cometflash, Albino Claw and Silver Streak attempted it. Consensus was that we needed Don or Project Virus there...Project Virus especially because of the teleport. Going to the mission in Terra Volta was difficult for non-flyers/non-jumpers.

As a last note, when I went back to the contact, he offered the TV Reactor mission. So we didn't have to do the other two previous missions again.

Raiders Army

09-21-2004, 10:26 PM

Dola, after coming back from the CoH boards just now, I think three things contributed to our demise:

1. We needed Don (level 30 I think) and probably more essentially PV (level 32) to get closer in levels. I had Gail sked to level 31 and Claw had Comet sked to level 31. Aucoin stayed at level 28. Looking back on it, we really needed a tank and/or someone else to dish it out.

2. Inexperience with what we were supposed to do. We weren't sure what the reactor looked like or where it was. We do now.

3. When I ran away from the team to get to the reactor, Aucoin followed. This split our group up, and we didn't have a real strategy. I messed it up for the team, and had I not done this, then maybe #1 and #2 would not have mattered. I apologize for the debt.

hoopsguy

09-21-2004, 10:36 PM

Sorry to hear that the first attempt failed here.

I'll do what I can to get another level before the next attempt. I'm at Level 31 at this point, about 25% of the way towards 32 ... will 32 get the job done, relative to other party member levels?

Bad-example

09-22-2004, 01:07 AM

Bummer about the respec mission...I hope your second attempt goes better.

I am pretty frustrated with customer service. They never did offer me any tangible aid in that bugged mission. I allow things like this to bother me more than I should.

Raiders Army

09-22-2004, 07:04 AM

Hoops, I think level 31 will get it done. Did anyone want to try Thursday night? Also, when I logged on briefly this morning, the TF was still available, so the same people could try again tonight. I would say that we don't, since it was a pain in the ass trying to get to the final mission.

Bad, I know how you feel. I have a mission that is taking up a slot and I can't complete it.

09-22-2004, 07:43 AM

We only have to do the last mission if we try again. I can be on to do this tonight.

Bonegavel

09-22-2004, 08:45 AM

Shit! I think I quit the TF before leaving last night. Shit shit shit. I'm assuming i can't be reinvited. I would like to try again tonight if we can. 40k+ in debt is nothing compared to not being able to respec :D.

Can everyone make it again tonight? Was a helluva battle and I think the dry run (as it now will be known) was good to get the lay of the land.

I didn't realize we got separated. I was so caught up in healing myself while being attacked by 2 34 (purple) robot Bosses. I think I died 3 or 4 times, but don't fret Raider's - debt is just another thing to overcome. Gives me a reason to play. :D

09-22-2004, 08:48 AM

I was thinking Aucoin can just exemplar to get rid of debt with one of our low peoples in the group.

Raiders Army

09-22-2004, 08:50 AM

I can make it tonight. The first two missions weren't bad...they were more of a warm-up, so if we want to do those again, it's no biggie. I don't think they took that long to do. The longest part was waiting for Gail and Comet to get to the last mission. Superspeed is definitely a disadvantage in the maps like TV, Faultline, etc.

Thomkal

09-22-2004, 10:05 AM

Terra Volta needs to be blown up never to return. what a disaster that zone is. I had to let myself be killed just so I could get out an area with no ground level exit after we failed the mission. I'm sorry that I am completely unskilled at jumping in this game and held us up there. It was quite embarassing on my part.

I believe I too may have quit the taskforce, thinking others were doing it, not having been on one before, but in my case no biggie if I did and can't rejoin. There was only one power I wanted to get rid of, whirlwind, and I'm not sure its worth all that aggravation again to respec. But if my speed and teleporting will be of help, then I of course will try it again. Not sure if I can be on yet tonight or not though.

If we are going to do it again, now that we know what to expect, I'd like to see a more solid plan for handling that last mission, with a leader who tells us what to do and what to attack, and plus slowing down enough (I know time is an issue in that mission) to let everyone catch their breaths and regroup before taking on the next part of the mission. And no one running ahead of the others unless its me to teleport everyone outside the reactor or elsewhere. :)

We've shown good teamwork in the past, so I'm sure we can complete the mission successfully if we work harder as a team this second time.

C.J.

09-22-2004, 10:22 AM

prolly won't be able to be on with gail tonight fellas. Our mail server blew up again at work last night, and this time it was the RAID 5 array that the mail database was on....and we don't have a good backup that we can fall back on, so I'll be quite busy trying to rebuild it again. (for the techies...yes it was a RAID 5 array which makes you think it shoulda been fine, but it was the controller card that choked..causing corruption across the array.)

As far as the mission...I'm not too bent out of shape about it, it was fun either way even though we failed. Yeah, I'm seeing the most outrageous debt I've ever seen in the game so far, but like GI said...I suppose you could always reverse SK with a lowbie somewhere and get your debt taken care of easier.

09-22-2004, 11:23 AM

Thomkal:

I think because this was the first time we ever did it, tactics was at a minimum. We now have a pretty good idea on what to do. Gail's Hurricane should help. We need 1 tank or 2 scrappers. Candy and Regen before the main battle. Need to keep people off of the core, but if a tank can provoke, no problem there. Should be a lot easier than last time.

Okay, how about a step on the soap box. That was amazing that we couldn't do it. The game is fun again. WE HAVE A CHALLENGE!!! A real one too. One that is going to require us to work as a team in harmony. This is freaking awesome. And the goal of our this coming together teamwork? We get to respec which is a just reward. Great game design IMO.

I'll get off of my soapbox now... :)

ageofquarrel

09-22-2004, 02:09 PM

Sorry to hear that it didnt go so well. If you try it tonight I might be able to help but I have until 10pm est because I have to go to work. Dont know when you guys can get started and how long it willl take. But, Yeah i really want to give it a try even though I dont feel as I need a respec. Only have two enhancement slots that i want to put somewhere else.

Bad-example

09-22-2004, 03:14 PM

I requested a supervisor contact me...twice...but never heard back. I was very much looking forward to getting higher in levels and seeing the world but I guess it is a good thing I found out early on how bad the support is in CoH. Oh well. I will still lurk here to find out how you guys are doing. Thanks for the fun while it lasted.

Raiders Army

09-22-2004, 04:23 PM

Hey Bad, that sucks but I wouldn't let it stop you from playing. I think it will be fixed eventually. Regardless of anything, I'm having a ton of fun playing...and that's saying something for me.

Thomkal

09-22-2004, 05:10 PM

I likely won't be on until at or after 9pm EST, so if everyone is on at 8, go ahead without me.

Raiders Army

09-22-2004, 06:20 PM

I'll be on after 8 EST since the pilot of Lost is coming on tonight.

Qwikshot

09-22-2004, 06:22 PM

I don't know when I'll be on again, seem to be juggling real life (out barhopping last night), the sims2, and EHM.

Raiders Army

09-22-2004, 10:04 PM

Well, the good news (I guess) was that I hit level 33 tonight!

The bad news was that I logged off tonight with a little under 90,000 in debt.

Yin/Yang....whatever.

09-23-2004, 06:55 AM

Sorry I missed last night. MBA started and with a busy weekend coming up, I had to study and do homework. If any high level character has debt, might be a good time to bring on a lowbe and exemplar

Bonegavel

09-23-2004, 08:50 AM

Yeah, Albino started the night with over 48k in debt and I had it down to the low 20s. Then, we started AoQs mission from which he had to bail and died at the hands of many many Devouring Earth. Debt back to upper 30s.

It's kind of funny, however, in that the debt (which used to bother me tremendously) no longer means anything to me. So i level at half speed for a while. The game content is increasing so it no longer seems I need to totally focus on hitting 50. I think the level grind post 30 is what did it to me. I realized that it's like watching the grass grow so I might as well not worry about it.

With that said, still looking forward to getting my "respec on" --- anyone up for it tonight?

Raiders Army

09-23-2004, 09:07 AM

I'll be on tonight but before 8 EST. It's funny you say that debt doesn't bother you. To me, it's somewhat helpful. Since it's 470,000 xp to level 34, working off this debt is a good intermediate goal.

On a side note, getting the level 35 SOs (most of them combined to form level 36 SOs) makes a huge difference for me. This morning I worked off 10k in debt in half an hour. I was taking on 34 LTs and 2 to 3 minions solo which helps immensely. I spent about 1.5 million influence last night getting the level 35 SOs, so I'm really poor right now :)

09-23-2004, 09:14 AM

My availability for tonight is questionable. Do not wait for me to do the respec mission.

C.J.

09-23-2004, 10:52 AM

Gail will be available tonight....sometime between 8 and 9pm EST. (not sure, but no later than 9)
I'm up for trying the respec mission again.
If Aucoin's not going to be there, we need to take that into consideration.

Bonegavel

09-23-2004, 01:28 PM

I will be on as soon as i possibly can, but I am solo with my daughter tonight while the wife has meet the teacher stuff. I guess I could of actually talked with her about how long she thinks it will be, but that would mean I'd have to actually pay attention. :D

Bonegavel

09-23-2004, 01:28 PM

Bonegavel

09-25-2004, 12:44 AM

Well, tonight's Respec Task Force found us in the reactor room only to die at the hands of the endless hordes of Sky Raiders. With our Tankers help (Don the Baptist) our team was able to make it to the bowel of the reactor and make a stand. We waited for the onslaught to begin and when it did we met the masses full force. Our coordinated efforts worked to stave off wave after wave of Sky Raiders.

A few of us fell but we somehow managed to fight on until were finally overwhelmed and the reactor core went supernova. Valiant Gale was the only one of us that grabbed a cooling aparatus to keep the core at full strength and here was our downfall. Had the rest of us grabbed the gear, we probably would have finished this daunting task. Alas, it was not meant to be tonight.

Needless to say, I think we now have this mission parameters burned into our brains and we will not fail next time. No. Success will be ours. The most difficult mission in the game will NOT conquer us again.

Bonegavel

09-25-2004, 01:01 AM

Seriously, that was some fun. CJ, i apologize for not finding the cooling guns you were talking about. With those, we most likely would have succeeded. Things got way too hectic too quickly :D

Sorry for all the deaths.

Would like to do it again as soon as everyone has the time. I will definitely hit 33 sometime around the reactor mission.

Raiders Army

09-25-2004, 06:39 AM

I'm up for it again on Tuesday night. It was really fun last night. I think that if maybe sometime we can work around PV's schedule, his help would aid tremendously. What's funny is that I think you may have been right Bonegavel. I don't think I downloaded a new update since Tuesday, but the mobs seemed easier (even with the Don's help). I saw no purples (although I am level 33 instead of 32 now). This mission may set to the leader's level.

C.J.

09-27-2004, 06:23 AM

no apologies necessary. we gave it all we had. and did a damn good job too. When I grabbed the coolant, it said I got a "temporary power" but I didn't know if it was time-limited, or shots-limited. If it was shots limited, my bad for using it more often than I should have. I never let the reactor get below 3/4 "health".

Was it just me or did it seem like there was WAY more waves of enemies than there was supposed to be. It seemed like it would never end. On top of that, most of them could teleport right next to the reactor. I was going nuts trying to keep them all away from it...doing laps around the reactor with hurricane on and then throwing out holds, using "gale" to blow them away, and wormhole to teleport them out of the area. All that, and assisting Aucoin with heals whenever possible.

Defninitely an rush...most exciting thing I've played yet in the game. Again anyone? :)
I've actually restructured enough of my powers in the hero planner that this is worth doing until successful for me.

09-27-2004, 06:36 AM

I'm up for a respec on Tuesday starting at 9pm.

Bonegavel

09-27-2004, 10:08 AM

I'm up for a respec on Tuesday starting at 9pm.
Count me in-like-Flynn.

We'll get it one of these days.

Had fun with our lowbies last night. We need to do that again some time soon. I will make a defender one of these days to give pretty boy a break. :D

C.J.

09-27-2004, 10:11 AM

A few things I've read on the boards about the respec mission:

- There should be coolant belts available for everyone on the team. Some people said that they were able to take two , but would be best for everyone to just grab one I suppose.
- A lot of people are saying that the mission is geared towards the highest member. I also read that some people believe the mission is geared towards whomever is talking with the contact...haven't been able to verify either yet.
- The red bubble that one of us got when entering the reactor room is something ALL of us should have. it's a radiation shield. And you can renew it by going back to get it again in the annex room. Not sure how to get it yet, but there's something in that room that hands out a shield. Will block you from taking damage from reactor. During down time between waves people on the boards said they would go back to the pre-room before reactor room to get another red bubble shield.
- Lots of people say it's best to stay together. Might be kinda hard, as I'm going to stick by reactor to keep hurricane doing it's thing, but lots of teams on the boards said that was one of the things that helped them is to stick around each other for buffs and AoE damage from spines or whatever.
- Some people are saying that they're failing the mission before they enter the room...possibly from the bombs in the hallway going off, and setting things into motion in the reactor room....again can't confirm any of this, but others are saying that if anyone with invisi scouts ahead, this will also start the events in the reactor room.

Thomkal

09-27-2004, 10:46 AM

Did someone say radiation? :) Don't know if I'll be there or not for the respec, but if I am, I never really got into the reactor room, so someone will have to point out where these coolant belts/radiation shields are to me and how to use them beforehand, so I don't slow us down more than I normally do. ;)

Bonegavel

09-27-2004, 01:46 PM

Raiders Army

09-27-2004, 03:54 PM

I wondered what that red shield was doing. I'll be there Tuesday night. I think I can confirm that the mission was set to whoever talked to the contact. If it were set to the highest member, I should've been it, and we should've seen much harder mobs. Since we have nothing to lose by having the lowest member of the TF take the mission, I think that is what should happen.

C.J.

09-28-2004, 01:21 PM

I'd have to agree...just my opinion, but I've done this mission enough already and gotten enough debt from it that I just want it over and done with so we can all respec finally. Not to mention the time we've put into it only to walk out of there with another week of getting half the XP you should get because of your debt. If the mission is truely set by the lvl of the person that talks to the contact, we should get one us lowbies to do it so we can breeze through it. Would save us a lot of time too....time we could spend playing with some of the new powers we respec with.
:D

Bonegavel

09-28-2004, 03:00 PM

I smell Gail as team leader tonight.

Qwikshot

09-28-2004, 03:30 PM

Hangfire may be able to get there tonight, I'm still about 2k from 27 and about 10k in debt (maybe higher since it was a blur since trying to kill that tank smasher).

Raiders Army

09-28-2004, 03:37 PM

Well, I'll be there. I've worked off over 300,000 in debt this level (easy to tell since I've been in debt since I got to level 33), and I'm down to less than 55k in debt. Hopefully I'll work that off tonight.

As a side note, I'm so used to debt at this point, if I didn't have any I'd feel like I powerleveled.

Raiders Army

09-28-2004, 11:00 PM

w00t!!!!

Bonegavel

09-28-2004, 11:07 PM

double w00t!!

09-28-2004, 11:13 PM

Here is the only screenshot I took from the respec mission:

http://home.comcast.net/~schokora/respec.jpg

C.J.

09-29-2004, 08:00 AM

Congrats again to everyone that made it through with us on the respec mission last night. I uploaded the 3 screenshots I took along with a few other misc. other ones.

Respec 1 (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/092804/screenshot_2004-09-28-23-40-47.jpg)
Respec 2 (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/092804/screenshot_2004-09-28-23-41-12.jpg)
Respec 3 (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/092804/screenshot_2004-09-28-23-41-25.jpg)
Aucoin before 2nd attempt at respec (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/092804/screenshot_2004-09-24-23-15-51.jpg)
Aucoin? Hmmm....(1st attempt at respec) (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/092804/screenshot_2004-09-21-21-27-09.jpg)
Watch out...a controller pretending to be a blaster (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/092804/screenshot_2004-09-19-20-10-01.jpg)
Hmm...so now citizens are carrying around enormous sized emeralds. I don't blame the villan for trying to steal it. (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/092804/screenshot_2004-09-18-03-04-29.jpg)
I should of stolen that myself and turned it in for influence to pay off my debt. (http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/092804/screenshot_2004-09-18-03-04-22.jpg)

Bonegavel

09-29-2004, 08:22 AM

Oh my! Nice pics. Totally forgot about snapping any.

I tooled around Brickstown for about 20 minutes or so and my new setup is sweet. Between 6 slotted stamina and 6 slotted quick recovery I can run all my toggles and not run out of endurance (something I couldn't do before).

I don't know exactly what that TF had against us, but everything leading up to the reactor room suggested that we were in for double digit deaths. But, we get to the reactor room and we see nothing but 32/33's?! Whacky.

Anywho, as was mentioned last night, if Cometflash wants to try it again I am willing to go through it again for him (don't worry comet, gail has recall friend!) but I don't think it can be Thursday night as I have to be up early for work Friday.

09-29-2004, 08:31 AM

Now that I have a ton of influence, I'll log in after work today and do some minor costume changes. New belt..etc. Have to get rid of soul patch too. I'd like to do missions for Thursday so I can reduce my enourmous debt total from respec.

Qwikshot

09-29-2004, 10:48 AM

I dedicated an hour to grinding, now I have only two slots of red debt (around 30k). Which was an achievement after being up to 42k. Spent the majority of my time in Terra Volta (cringe Cometflash cringe) beating up on a 3 group set of Sky Raiders in one circuit. Nothing exciting about it, but until I can get debt down to an appealing level, it's all I plan to do (that an some missions, I really need to get story arcs going now that smoke grenade is kaput).

I do like blazing bolt (kind of like Silver Streak's electric sniper bolt) and while I have yet to use cloaking device, I'm sure it'll be useful in some levels; it is more to be used for when I get tripmine. My problem was I took aim before cloak and then realized that tripmine would be somewhat worthless without cloak.

I don't miss hasten, mainly because I alpha strike and as long as I hit hard there isn't much left when I'm done. I use blazing bolt for the stragglers who run. It's working well, though I must admit I'm more cautious and the process of xp is far slower.

I don't mind dying too much, I mean I'm better off than poor Aucoin (7 deaths).

Thanks to Silver Streak for getting me those endurance reducers, keeps the blue fully charged.

During the respec, I am seeing that I'm more of a liability till the last room. Let's face it, all my AoEs don't help me when I'm facing 35s and I'm just a lowly 27.

Thomkal

09-29-2004, 11:04 AM

Did someone say "Terra Volta?" :::shudder:::

Again my apologies for my departure from the task force yesterday, and the subsequent deaths it may have caused by my absence. But in many ways I think with all the discons/COH errors I was having last night my presence would have been a detriment as I may have been disconning during an emergency heal/mutation rez/missing debuffs at the start of a battle, etc. Thanks to everyone who tried to talk me through the Terra Volta Jumping Trial (jumping causes a lot of my discons by the way), which was very trying (and frustrating) for me, because I don't like holding everyone up and I don't like feeling embarassed by a game. I should have just declined to join the task force when PV wasn't there so as to avoid that ridiculous run to the mission enterance. I feel horrible that my absence might have caused the debt to rack up for you

If some reason you'd ever want to go through all that drama again so Comet can get his respec (and give up his dearly loved, but deeply frustrating superspeed), then I would be grateful, but only if Gail and/or PV is there to teleport my butt to the mission! :) But lets get rid of a lot of that debt first if we can.

But I'm sincerely happy you got through it despite almost giving up on it, and everybody seems to be enjoying their respec'ed selves.

Great pictures C. J. thanks for posting them

Bonegavel

09-29-2004, 01:57 PM

I would be willing to run respec again for you comet. Now that we have the respec TF burned into our ROMs, it is just a matter of slogging through.

XP isn't bad and at the end those of us that don't want another respec can just select one of the other rewards (i think at 32 or something you have 2 respecs available).

C.J.

09-29-2004, 02:50 PM

I agree. I mentioned last night that if comet wanted to go through the respec mission...I'm willing to do it again to get him a respec. Like Silverstreak said earlier, I've had debt for so long now...I forgot what it's like to not have it and level at a normal pace. I'm not too worried about getting defeated anymore.

Updated my blog....if anyone's interested in seeing what Gail lost and gained in powers.
http://cj-coh.blogspot.com

Bonegavel

09-30-2004, 01:24 PM

My respec'd build is working very well as I found out last night. I should be much less of a burden on the healers now.

ageofquarrel

09-30-2004, 01:59 PM

I might not make it for tonight. Glad to hear that respec finally went well.

Raiders Army

09-30-2004, 05:23 PM

I will be on later tonight after 9 EST (Survivor and no interest in the elections). Hey, who do you go to in order to respec?

Bonegavel

09-30-2004, 07:39 PM

getting the server is not available

09-30-2004, 07:40 PM

Official site says Victory is DOWN

Bonegavel

09-30-2004, 07:41 PM

you broke the server with your cape mission gi.

Bonegavel

09-30-2004, 07:44 PM

let't hit another server, create new characters and try and find each other. :D

C.J.

10-01-2004, 06:25 AM

it crashed again a little after midnight while I was in the Hollows with Foxxy Coco.

I switched over to Virute for a little bit after the first crash and was playing my tanker over there. Were you guys all on that Peoples Front of Judea SG? (Piss on the Judean People's Front).

Screenshots from last night:
http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/093004/screenshot_2004-09-30-21-18-32.jpg
http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/093004/screenshot_2004-09-30-21-34-19.jpg
http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/093004/screenshot_2004-09-30-21-34-29.jpg
http://www.wowway.com/~cj_miller/coh/093004/screenshot_2004-09-30-21-37-31.jpg

Bonegavel

10-04-2004, 09:50 AM

I stayed up way later than I wanted and got Albino Claw to level 34. *sigh* another 500,000+ xp and it's on to level 35.

Raiders Army

10-04-2004, 10:42 AM

Gratz on level. Don's up to level 33 as of last night. It seems as if karma got to me when I died twice last night after laughing at Don for dying twice the night before. :)

C.J.

10-04-2004, 12:52 PM

wow...I was playing with Don, SS and Comet on sunday for a bit...and for the first time I wasn't sidekicked and I was actually doing ok staying alive. I was missing a lot of holds, and had to be careful about aggro and taking damage, but over all I felt like I was actually holding up quite well. Gail's about half a bubble from 29, so I figure about 15-20 minutes of game play should do it. 3 lvls from pets..wooohooo!

Congrats to don and albino on their lvls...

Thomkal

10-06-2004, 06:33 AM

Girls Gone Wild night was very fun yesterday. Nice to see us get in touch with our feminine sides. ;)

10-06-2004, 06:37 AM

I enjoyed it as well. Having a Storm Defender was a lot of fun.

Raiders Army

10-06-2004, 11:40 AM

Ditto. I liked it since I actually leveled while playing (a few times!). Also, playing a Force Field Defender was a lot of fun. :)

10-06-2004, 11:45 AM

Sweet Bubbles must live on! ;)

Qwikshot

10-07-2004, 12:45 PM

It's been a real rough week for me but I should be available tonight for battle be it Q'wiksilver, Battleflag, or the much maligned Hangfire (do do do do do do do do do baby baby)

10-07-2004, 12:48 PM

Odds are low that I will be on tonight.

Raiders Army

10-07-2004, 02:43 PM

I might be on earlier this evening, but it's the double whammy of Survivor and the Apprentice tonight.

Bonegavel

10-07-2004, 03:46 PM

If i'm on tonight it won't be for very long.

a) the game is wearing on my nerves and I need to put distance between my oplaying sessions.

b) the amount of time I've spent during the last few months has caused me to forget that I have a wife and daughter that actually want to spend time with me (the "why" on that fact boggles my mind)

c) I have to rally up the troops for a guy's night poker-a-thon this Saturday night.

Now, having said all that I will probably be logged into CoH tonight until 3am. Best laid plans...

hoopsguy

10-07-2004, 07:33 PM

Good luck with the poker. I had my marathon, seven-hour session last weekend and ended up about $20 ahead. Lousy per-hour rate, but a fun night of cards in the side games after two miserable tournaments sucked money from my wallet.

I'm probably out for tonight as well. Picked up Rome: Total War and want to give it a spin.

Bonegavel

10-07-2004, 08:35 PM

looks like Victory is down.

As for the poker, we play .05, .10, .25 with double ante raise and 3 raise max. If you are down/up 10$ that is a lot. Usually you wind up playing for 4 hours and spend less than a movie rental. I have 5 so far for the game and that should be enough. Maybe call one of my sisters for for a full table.

C.J.

11-03-2004, 06:56 AM

Boards been down so long...is anyone still reading this thread?

11-03-2004, 07:04 AM

I'm sure it will pick up after everyone realizes that the Boards are back

Raiders Army

11-03-2004, 07:39 AM

I've been playing Sweet Bubbles a lot lately. It was somewhat disappointing last night seeing only Gail, Maiden Io, and Bubbles/Streak on. Hopefully this will pick up now that the boards are back.

11-03-2004, 07:59 AM

I am really enjoying Maiden Io (Illusion/Rad Controller) and wish to make her my main alt. I want to level her up quickly. Aucoin is 31 almost 32 and no real powers to look forward to. Maybe a couple, but I needed a change. I'll bring Aucoin on when needed and might get back into him soon. Io needs to get to 18 though, because that is when I get have pets. Should be fun then.

Hoping everyone gets back to the boards. First GM into COH today, change the message of the day to reflect the boards being back online please.

Bonegavel

11-03-2004, 08:19 AM

The boards being down was good for my work life as I've been super busy the last month with no end in sight. With that said, it's good to be back.

Qwikshot

11-03-2004, 11:31 AM

I was stuck at work, then I watched "Man On Fire" and then the election stuff...but today I played and made it to 33.

I /have/ to, /have/ to, /have/ to, respec Hangfire at 34. For every decent kill I'm getting, I'm getting defeated twice (already worked up a healthy 43k debt again).

33 is nice, but instead of loading it into Inferno, I loaded it into cloaking device for defensive purposes.

Honestly, once I've gotten inferno there is nothing more in the fire/devices grouping to look forward too, does that mean I'm bored, no, but right now, Hangfire won't excel until I can fix some of the things I needed to do from last respec.

He's still an enjoyable character, and he makes me cringe when I try to play an ALT (Battleflag is just severley gimped and will probably be retired, Vortez is no fun)

I'm waiting till issue three to think about building a new character, simply because of all the talk being thrown around.

11-03-2004, 11:40 AM

Hey Qwik, do whatever you need to do to have fun. Nothing else matters. Bonus: If you need anything, power-leveling..etc...just ask.

C.J.

11-03-2004, 11:41 AM

Qwikshot

11-03-2004, 02:02 PM

Even though I've gotten Gail past 32 and she has her big power for controller powers.....I still want to hit levels 35 and 38 to get my last two secondary powers. The last one....Lightning Storm...is supposed to deal "heavy damage" (whatever that is). So I'm still very interested in playing Gail as my primary up through level 40 at least. She still hasn't gotten boring to me yet....in fact now is when it's really getting exciting. the 20's just completely sucked playing this character (might have been pre-issue 2 stuff though), but so far the 30's have rocked.

Oh, one more thing too....I'm half a level away from 34...so I'm up for a respec again if anyone's interested in going for another one. I made some mistakes on the last one (eliminated Health/Stamina for Leadership powers...now I want them back along with some other changes).
Just wanted to say that when you and Io and I were hunting in Founders, I never accumulated xp so fast (with apologies to PV, Silver Streak, Albino, Don and the countless others who've helped me). I hope to be able to do such again.

I've fully loaded my enhancements to 35's so I am at full firepower.

I'm quite optimistic that I can get Hang to 34 for respec, but hey, let's face it, it's better to group than to go alone anymore.

Frankly, with the whole group hunting in Crey's I think we would see a massive influx of xp.

Qwikshot

11-03-2004, 02:04 PM

Just wanted to say that when you and Io and I were hunting in Founders, I never accumulated xp so fast (with apologies to PV, Silver Streak, Albino, Don and the countless others who've helped me). I hope to be able to do such again.

I've fully loaded my enhancements to 35's so I am at full firepower.

I'm quite optimistic that I can get Hang to 34 for respec, but hey, let's face it, it's better to group than to go alone anymore.

Frankly, with the whole group hunting in Crey's I think we would see a massive influx of xp.
DOLA

Of course, missions are giving more rewarding xp as well.

hoopsguy

11-03-2004, 10:17 PM

Was on for a little while tonight, caught Aucoin in between his sessions with the girlfriend for a little adventuring. Don is about 3/4 of the way to 36 at this point. Leveling is really starting to take more time for me now - might need to tag along with SS, PV, and AC to try and put a finishing kick on for this level tonight.

I really haven't gotten bored with Don or the game yet. I still enjoy the sub-plots in the missions and have fun with our group. I'm hoping to play all the way up to 50 if it can be accomplished in a somewhat reasonable timeframe. But at that point I'm not sure how much longer I would stick around. The game does suck up a good amount of time and I am seeing my workload remain at a very high level as of late.

C.J.

11-04-2004, 07:03 AM

Just wanted to say that when you and Io and I were hunting in Founders, I never accumulated xp so fast

Wow, never thought I'd ever read something like that. It definitely is very strange being on the other side of the fence now. Being a damage dealer finally. Glad I could help in actually generating XP directly, instead of just assisting from the back seat.
Singularity should get all the credit. They make life SO much easer. I was taking down level 36 mobs (and the occasional 37 which took longer than it was worth) on the south side of Bricks with ease. That's +3 and +4 above me. Took a little longer than the typical scrapper/tanker probably could do it in, but you know what...how many scrappers can go afk for a bio while still attacking the mob and not taking any damage? Nice, eh?

Io saw the awesome power of crowd control last night on a mission we were on. Jumped into a room of 3 mobs with at least 8-10 foes each. They were all so close, we aggroed all 3 of the mobs. 3 singys out...they couldn't handle everything. I locked down the center mob for sings to have fun with...then ran over to each of the side mobs and Dimensional Shifted them so they couldn't bother us. We took down that room of at least 30 foes that were mixes of LT's and minions at least +1 or +2 above us. Pretty unbelievable. I was quite happy.

11-04-2004, 07:11 AM

And with the XP flowing, Io was happy as well. Nice seeing a pet Character in action. I am looking forward to my pets ever so sone. 4 Levels. Let's try to get the gang out tonight. It would be nice to see a full group again.

Raiders Army

11-04-2004, 07:15 AM

I got Sweet Bubbles to level 13 this morning...and a little over 4 bubs to level 14. Unfortunately, tonight is a bad night for me. Survivor and The Apprentice are on. I might be on after 9 p.m. EST tonight, but that's only if they're doing an encore of The Apprentice on Saturday.

I have to say that Bubbles is fun to play. With six-slotting my bubbles, it seems as if the blasters I was with this morning didn't get hit at all. If I'm on tonight, I'll probably bring Bubbles. :)

Thomkal

11-04-2004, 08:45 AM

Cometflash and alts are still around despite more video/disconnects than normal recently. Comet's about 10000 xp from 29th I think. If I'm on tonight it will be after Survivor (I'll tape Apprentice. :) )

Raiders Army

11-05-2004, 08:11 AM

Well, the brief time I was on last night was enjoyable. I got Bubbles halfway to level 15 this morning, so I'm moving along with her. I will be gone beginning November 14th through December 3rd to Ft. Benning, so no CoH or FOFC for me. :(

I hope that there's still a group when I get back. ;)

11-05-2004, 08:30 AM

While I might try WoW, I'll still be playing CoH. Had a blast last night. Ton of fun. Io is at 16 1/2 now. Almost at pets!!!! We'll see you when you get back.

Ft Benning....ahh the memories. Basic and Adv Inf school there for me. Stay away from the women in columbus!!! Don't want you to catch anything that you can't give back! :)

C.J.

11-05-2004, 02:57 PM

Who's up for it? I know Comet is, don't think he ever got to respec the first time we went through it. Gail's lvl 34 now, so I'm very interested in starting another wave of attempts again (heh..maybe we'll get lucky this time). I believe we only need 4 people for a respec team.

Raiders Army

11-05-2004, 03:04 PM

When were you talking about? I'm full up until Saturday night, but I might be on tonight. I guess Silver could do it with you. Although we only need 4 people, I would not recommend doing it without a healer, controller, damage dealer (blaster/scrapper), or tank (tank/scrapper).

Thomkal

11-05-2004, 03:34 PM

Can't do a respec tonight but would like to do one sometime soon. But I may not be around as much because Everquest II comes out next week, and I'll definitely be checking that out.

JeeberD

11-05-2004, 04:06 PM

Finally decided to get the game going again. Hopefully I'll see some of you guys on there (though I'm hopelessly behind all of you)...

Qwikshot

11-05-2004, 04:30 PM

No respec till I make 34!!! Please GOD Please...darn GI, your pets actually getting you to level that quick!?!

Raiders Army

11-05-2004, 05:07 PM

Hey Jeebs, just give one of us a holler:

Silver Streak, Project Virus, Aucoin, Don the Baptist, Gail-Force, Cometflash, Hangfire, Maiden Io, Sweet Bubbles, Transelectron....trying to think of others, but there some for starts.

Qwikshot

11-06-2004, 12:49 PM

Got out of debt (thanks Silver)...8 blocks from 34. Created a new Mr. Scorch, fire/kinetics...deleted Mr. Scorch (tanker), Vortez, and Battle Flag.

11-08-2004, 06:40 AM

No respec till I make 34!!! Please GOD Please...darn GI, your pets actually getting you to level that quick!?!

You all are helping me level fast! :) Gail, SS, and Claw are the main helpers, so thanks!!!

Got 18 and my first pets last night. Can't wait for a team group.

Raiders Army

11-08-2004, 06:59 AM

Gratz. :)

11-08-2004, 07:00 AM

Gratz. :)

bio

:D

C.J.

11-08-2004, 09:04 AM

GI you need pets just so you can "bio" and still fight. :rolleyes:

11-08-2004, 09:25 AM

GI you need pets just so you can "bio" and still fight. :rolleyes:

What a great idea!!!!!!!! :p

11-09-2004, 08:08 AM

The lastest from our leader:

http://coh.warcry.com/scripts/columns/view_sectionalt.phtml?site=36&id=349&colid=5597

Having PC issues, might not be on tonight.

Qwikshot

11-09-2004, 08:54 AM

Cool...chatted with Io while playing (GASP) Q'wiksilver. By the way, the word coming in is that AoE powers are going to be tweaked (hopefully not as extreme as smoke grenade) so if I don't get Hang to 50, it maybe a lot harder in a few months...

Hangfire with defensive powers (drool).

Qwikshot

11-09-2004, 05:50 PM

Psst!

Sometime after 9 P.M. Hangfire/Q'wiksilver will be out and about.

Raiders Army

11-09-2004, 05:57 PM

I got out of debt earlier tonight....only to die twice and get back into debt. I'll be on later tonight with bubbles or streak

Qwikshot

11-10-2004, 01:16 PM

Died again...took out a 37 Overlord, dediced to tackle a weaker but grouped 5th column of 2 minions, a vampire, and boss (wolfpack?)

Very quickly dispatched...(sigh)

Chatted briefly with Cometflash...

Lots going on about in the boards, excited for the next step even if means neutering AoE.

My biggest concern is Respec; it seems it's only a 3 time deal, and I don't want to have the rest of you guys squander it (they are talking about adding additional respecs) but I think maybe it'll be wiser if the rest of the gang waits (the regen adjustments may hurt Claw; and who knows what may or may not be adjusted otherwise)...plus the things I want to the the toon might not be the wisest dependent on how they adjust AoE (sigh)...so Hangfire might get mothballed at 34 and Q'wiksilver may be on a lot more....

Bonegavel

11-10-2004, 01:25 PM

Yeah, I saw Statesman's comments that regen MIGHT be a little too powerful and I have to admit that compared to other builds, yeah, regen is powerful. However, you saw how shitty I was before my respec. Claw is currently very optimal. I did my homework and chose wisely and I think it shows that he can last in a fight and dish out some damage.

However, blasters streak and hang vastly out-gun me. PV out tanks me by a huge margin and is a meat grinder to boot. With regen I am either able to last the entire battle or I die in the Alpha strike.

Whatever. I doubt they will do anything and even if they do, I'll hopefully be 50 by then and open up the Epic AT.

Raiders Army

11-10-2004, 01:39 PM

I'll be on tonight to ding to level 38. Level 38 or bust!!!!

Do any of you guys have alts that are in other SGs? The thought occurred to me at work today, and I was just wondering.

Also, is anyone else up for a TF before Sunday? I wanted to do the Manticore one before I left.

Bonegavel

11-10-2004, 02:04 PM

The very first character I made on Virtue (got him to 21 before we moved to Victory) was in a really really good SG but the last time i logged in I found I was kicked and i don't blame them one bit.

My saturday is going to be spent at work as we are upgrading the OS of our most critical server. Because of that, i'm not sure that I will have time to even look at my PC on saturday and Sunday I will have to accomplish tasks for both Sat/Sun.

I'll try and at least check in to wish you a fond farewell for your 3 week trip.

Qwikshot

11-10-2004, 07:50 PM

Big BIG Changes coming...the epic powers were revealed...you guys might want to save your respecs till 41...very exciting news...we gotta buckle down to get to 41.

C.J.

11-11-2004, 02:20 AM

Sweet, can't wait to read more about the Epic AT stuff. I'll probably be on during the day for the next two days. I'm working 3 night shifts in a row (check out my post time).

C.J.

11-11-2004, 02:32 AM

11-11-2004, 06:55 AM

Played Io a little bit yesterday but the real fun began when Project Virus and Albino Claw got Aucoin out of his semi-retirement and we hunted in Pergrine Island (SP?) The new hunting grounds...xp was a flowing...

I'll be on tonight. With Aucoin if we can hunt in PI. :)

Raiders Army

11-11-2004, 07:31 AM

heh..follow up post...just read some stuff about new update. Did you guys catch this little tidbit?

Statesman sez:

Ah - one more thing. We're adding a new Inspiration that you can use to wake up from Sleep, Stun, Hold & Immobilize.
Yep - so if you're stunned, wobbling back and forth - you can use this Inspiration and WHAMMO - you're ready for action.

Must've missed this one. If true, then it's pretty interesting, since you can't click on inspirations when sleeping, stunned, held, or immobilized. If you can click on the inspiration, then can you click on others as well?

I'll be on tonight...picked up Tesla Cage which is pretty cool. Now I'm a blaster/scrapper/controller mix. ;)

Bonegavel

11-11-2004, 08:02 AM

PI will be our new Brickstown. Between Project Virus, Aucoin, and the Claw we were tearing up 41-43s last night and the xp was very nice. I was only on a few hours since I hit 37 and I already have 2 bubbles to show for it (over 200k xp). 37 may be short indeed.

Heading over to the CoH boards to read up on the new stuff.

[edit]

here (http://www.cityofheroes.com/features_update.html)is the link to the Spotlight of Issue 3

Qwikshot

11-11-2004, 08:38 AM

I will be on tonight, I hope I can meet up with all of you, if not, I'm baby free this weekend.

Bonegavel

11-11-2004, 08:45 AM

Upon further inspection of the Epic Power Pools (EPP) coming out, should we all stop leveling at 40 so we get to experience the EPPs together? Then work on our alts until issue 3?

I know that we won't unlock the Epic ATs (EAT) (no the same as the EPPs) until we reach 50, but I'd much rather enjoy my current character through the end (ie, work through the EPPs in natural order) than speed to 50 only to have to start over as a level 1 EAT.

11-11-2004, 08:48 AM

That sounds like a good idea if everyone wishes to stick around until issue 3.

Raiders Army

11-11-2004, 03:55 PM

I'm good with the stop at 40, since I'll be away for 3 weeks :)

I'll be on tonight, but later since Survivor and the Apprentice are on. Teamed with CJ earlier this morning. He said he has to work tonight at 9:30.

Raiders Army

11-11-2004, 06:23 PM

Usually, I like to wait 12 hours before I dolapost, but just teamed with Project Virus. We went into the Abandoned sewers, and I got over 100k in experience in about 30-45 minutes. I'll see you guys tonight!

Qwikshot

11-11-2004, 06:45 PM

11-11-2004, 07:06 PM

Victory Server Crashed at 8:06pm EST

ageofquarrel

11-11-2004, 07:07 PM

doh ive seen victory down a lot lately that sucks.

C.J.

11-11-2004, 10:39 PM

I like that idea...stop at 40 for everyone's mains.
Gail's about 4 bubbles into 35...wish I could've played tonight with everyone. I'm busy at work taking apart Dell racks / servers and moving stuff around.

Bonegavel

11-12-2004, 08:37 AM

Moving to PI has greatly increased the xp-rate, but the kicker is that Aucoin is mandatory for it to be worth the effort. PV and Claw teamed with Aucoin can tear through 41s like hot butter, 42s like cold cheese, and 43s like a 3" PVC pipe using a Ginsu.

11-12-2004, 08:40 AM

With the GF gone all weekend, Aucoin will be on all weekend. :)

11-12-2004, 08:44 AM

Marvel Enterprises, Inc. files a lawsuit Wednesday in US District Court against Korean based NCSoft and San Jose based Cyptic Studios. The law suit alleges that players can make heroes too similar to the Marvel gallery of spandex wearing crusaders.

Serious intellectual property rights could be raised by this suit.

Link: http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?flok=FF-APO-1333&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20041111%2F2235482241.htm&sc=1333

Qwikshot

11-12-2004, 09:20 AM

11-12-2004, 09:30 AM

At the rate Aucoin is going I should have 34 sometime this weekend. I'd like to do a respec mission so I can reslot some things. I know cometflash really wants to do one. Along with Gail. Anyone else 'NEED' to respec? As opposed to just wanting to help out.

Qwikshot

11-12-2004, 10:33 AM

ageofquarrel

11-12-2004, 11:28 AM

Yeah I will stop at 40 too, for the rest of you guys to catch up. So that hope fully we can try the trials if we have the time (sewer and eden).

Oh yeah fuck Marvel.

MrBug708

11-12-2004, 11:30 AM

I should start playing again

11-12-2004, 11:39 AM

I should start playing again

We need a tank :) Don's shoulders are big, but not that big.

But whatever gives you pleasure :)

Qwikshot

11-12-2004, 12:00 PM

We need a tank :) Don's shoulders are big, but not that big.

But whatever gives you pleasure :)
I'll make one of my alt's a tank, but I do have a fire/kinetics controller. I think my daughter's character Super Zi is a scrapper.

It would be nice to see Mr. Bug back on! At some point they will be allowing character transfers between servers...but since we'll all be using alts (I think we all should go to 41 and stop, because let's face it folks, the last level prior to epics will all drive us crazy)

Just was able to whittle the debt down to 2111 from last night. I have fun setting trip mines but god they take a long time. I set down in a very precise manner to take out a behemoth overlord, master, and 4 mages of varying degree....then got a little bolder and took out a nightwolf champion and two steel valks (the airborne thingies), then as a finishing touch before I left took on some devouring earth of various levels (yellow and whites only) and entered the fray with a blast of inferno!

I am definately up for a respec because I need to add more defense through the brawling pool (tough and weave). Though I figure at some point they will go over all the powers and the like, I am definately a support character now, which makes leveling go slower.

With respec, I would:

Take brawl, tough and weave
Take hasten and superspeed
Try to keep superjump
Fitness

Those are the four pools I would keep, the fifth being the epic, REMEMBER KIDS, if you have 5 extra pools picked I think you are choosing that over the epics. (I have to be sure on the boards) but the fifth power pool needs to be open for epics, so if you have 5 power pools slotted, you need to repsec to keep one open.

With adding all those additional groups in, I think I will go bare bones on attack. The only reason to get superspeed is for the invisibility boost and laying tripmines (which would suddenly be my bread and butter addition).

What would go admist all of that....well that's what hero planner is for, but I'm positive blazing bolt and (GASP) inferno may be cut (I can always reacqure inferno; but it's more of an emergency use or finishing off move)

I would probably, not pick a power when I level at 34 so that after respec I could simply bring inferno back on (I think that would make sense)

Since you can only pick one epic power there is no need to reduce additional power pools.

Hangfire will be fun to solo again, even if they do scrap AoE.