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RPI-Fan
01-09-2006, 07:25 PM
Eh, worst case is a one-for-one early on, which I'll certainly take.

UNVOTE SUPERMAN#54

VOTE QWIKSHOT

st.cronin
01-09-2006, 07:30 PM
UNVOTE NEON CHAOS

VOTE QWIKSHOT

st.cronin
01-09-2006, 07:31 PM
dola

Neo, why did you choose Qwik?

Qwikshot
01-09-2006, 07:33 PM
Uh...nope...just a wizard. Perhaps you delved into my thoughts during one of my stressful exam nights. The only one I want to torture is the ones murdering my colleagues.

TazFTW
01-09-2006, 07:34 PM
UNVOTE SUPERMAN=#54

VOTE QWIKSHOT

I'm not liking that Neon had to go role reveal this early.

Neon_Chaos
01-09-2006, 07:39 PM
st. cronin: When I was informed that I could do a Night 0 view, I chose a random person from the page I was viewing (the one with Qwikshot going "Wizard here..."). It was a shot in the dark, and I managed to hit paydirt.

Qwikshot: What I saw was what I saw, Qwik. If you ARE a Death Eater, then you're going down.

Taz: I'm not liking it either.

st.cronin
01-09-2006, 07:41 PM
I see no downside here, either Qwik or Neo is a death-eater. Trading pieces benefits wizards at this point.

Alan T
01-09-2006, 07:44 PM
UNVOTE ST.CRONIN

VOTE QWIKSHOT

If Neon is lying, he'll die tommorrow.

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 07:45 PM
Remember the dark lords spy would still show as hiding something and still be killed a villager...just a note regardless of who dies

Qwikshot
01-09-2006, 07:46 PM
I'm at a loss to even know a means of arguing this...if I were a death eater, then I would deny, if I weren't a death eater, I would deny. We base this claim on a vision,...intuition, but it doesn't really mean it is truth, it is what it is, an accusation.

I stand by my initial defense of accusing Neon because he did accuse me. I would have unvote him should he pick another, but now, I'll stick with it because I know I /am/ a wizard.

Still I'm resigned to whatever fate...but have we considered that maybe there is an evil wizard that can project false images?

Mr. Wednesday
01-09-2006, 07:47 PM
UNVOTE dubb93
VOTE Qwikshot

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 07:47 PM
UNVOTE SUPERMAN=#54

VOTE QWIKSHOT

I'm not liking that Neon had to go role reveal this early.
He didnt...as it stood it was a tie i think and in that case he would not have died

st.cronin
01-09-2006, 07:48 PM
I'm at a loss to even know a means of arguing this...if I were a death eater, then I would deny, if I weren't a death eater, I would deny. We base this claim on a vision,...intuition, but it doesn't really mean it is truth, it is what it is, an accusation.

I stand by my initial defense of accusing Neon because he did accuse me. I would have unvote him should he pick another, but now, I'll stick with it because I know I /am/ a wizard.

Still I'm resigned to whatever fate...but have we considered that maybe there is an evil wizard that can project false images?

There are all sorts of possibilities. I originally voted for Neo because his initial voting post was identical rationalization that I used in a game where I was non-human. It's not an unreasonable rationalization, however. It's bad luck to die on day 1, regardless of role. There's not really a way to play to avoid getting lynched.

KWhit
01-09-2006, 07:50 PM
Wow. That was a quick reveal.

UNVOTE SUPERMAN=#54

VOTE QWIKSHOT

Mr. Wednesday
01-09-2006, 07:51 PM
I think it's highly unlikely to be true that Neon is telling the truth AND Qwikshot is not a worthy lynchee. Either one may be true, but I do not believe both are true.

Alan T
01-09-2006, 07:51 PM
He didnt...as it stood it was a tie i think and in that case he would not have died


Actually like i posted before, I am pretty sure it was superman leading with 5 votes to neon's 4.

Thats what is a bit puzzling here. So if qwik doesnt end up being a deatheater, I know who I am voting for tommorrow

Coffee Warlord
01-09-2006, 07:51 PM
Uh.

Well, I'm not going to change my vote. We'll pile on enough here.

st.cronin
01-09-2006, 07:52 PM
Some harry potter expert should give us a primer on legilems or whatever Neo is claiming to be.

Neon_Chaos
01-09-2006, 07:52 PM
Qwik, we all are wizards. The question is, are you a wizard in the service of He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named!? My legilimency of your mind last night pushes me to believe that it is so.

kingfc22
01-09-2006, 07:53 PM
Very interesting. Going to sit back and see what happens.

Qwikshot
01-09-2006, 07:53 PM
There are all sorts of possibilities. I originally voted for Neo because his initial voting post was identical rationalization that I used in a game where I was non-human. It's not an unreasonable rationalization, however. It's bad luck to die on day 1, regardless of role. There's not really a way to play to avoid getting lynched.

That is the truth. Tis amazing though to reveal your role so early in the game, if that is what he is. And even if he were to be lynched the following morning, that is hardly any consolation for my rotting corpse buried next to him.

st.cronin
01-09-2006, 07:53 PM
Actually like i posted before, I am pretty sure it was superman leading with 5 votes to neon's 4.

Thats what is a bit puzzling here. So if qwik doesnt end up being a deatheater, I know who I am voting for tommorrow

That would make superman a suspect if neo turns out to be false.

Lathum
01-09-2006, 07:53 PM
Unvote Neon


Vote Qwick


if neon is wrong he gets his tomorrow.

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 07:56 PM
Actually like i posted before, I am pretty sure it was superman leading with 5 votes to neon's 4.

Thats what is a bit puzzling here. So if qwik doesnt end up being a deatheater, I know who I am voting for tommorrow
It was 4-4 when he revealed this...and under those circumstances he would not have died...if he really does have the role he claims to have, i dont see him revealing it like that...hes been a mod of games, he knows how to play...but ill chalk it up to rustiness and see where this goes...i repeat to watch for the dark spy who will show up as a villager, could trick us

Qwikshot
01-09-2006, 07:57 PM
Qwik, we all are wizards. The question is, are you a wizard in the service of He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named!? My legilimency of your mind last night pushes me to believe that it is so.

I'm going to say ,"No". I understand your vision makes you claim otherwise. I have no real means of rebutting your accusation, except to state that no, I'm not in the service of He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named.

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 07:58 PM
That would make superman a suspect if neo turns out to be false.
No it doesnt, and superman was tied only becuase i forced a tie(like i did twice before that too)...if neon is bad, i dont see this being an issue either. Just a bad play by neon if hes good, worse if hes bad

Neon_Chaos
01-09-2006, 08:01 PM
Blade6119: Last thing I check I though I was in a tie with ardent. That being said, Considering the sheer number of players in this one... bagging one DE from the start is a good thing. And I also think that there are two of us Legilimens in a game of this size.

A 1-for-1 trade, with the possibility of a chance for another reveal tonight is a chance I'd rather take. I'd rather have what I believe to be a sure baddie lynched today than a longshot in AE/Superman OR even worse, a complete innocent in myself.

SnDvls
01-09-2006, 08:01 PM
Some harry potter expert should give us a primer on legilems or whatever Neo is claiming to be.


here you go st. c

SnDvls
01-09-2006, 08:02 PM
oops from the rules

Legilimens – (Wizards only) you are an expert in the art of Legilimency. Each night, you may select one wizard to examine, and will find out if they are hiding any secrets within the recesses of their mind.

SnDvls
01-09-2006, 08:03 PM
what's the vote count on Qwik?

this has gotten interesting
unvote Blade

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 08:05 PM
Blade6119: Last thing I check I though I was in a tie with ardent. That being said, Considering the sheer number of players in this one... bagging one DE from the start is a good thing. And I also think that there are two of us Legilimens in a game of this size.

A 1-for-1 trade, with the possibility of a chance for another reveal tonight is a chance I'd rather take. I'd rather have what I believe to be a sure baddie lynched today than a longshot in AE/Superman OR even worse, a complete innocent in myself.
You were tied with superman, maybe you should read the damn thread before revealing your seer role :mad: ...i forced a tie repeatedly knowing a friend of mine would settle it in the best interest of the good wizards...if you are good, we just lost a critical role EARLY in the game. Now, on the plus side, your role might be inherited by someone without one right now if i understand the rules correctly(subtly says it i believe)...if your lying, qwik must have a good human role...either way your dead(by wolves tonight or us tomorrow), so i dont like the play, demon or human

KWhit
01-09-2006, 08:08 PM
i forced a tie repeatedly knowing a friend of mine would settle it in the best interest of the good wizards...
How is that even possible? Can we PM each other? Usually that's not allowed.

SnDvls
01-09-2006, 08:09 PM
I gotta believe Neon this early and with the #'s a 1 for 1 can't be bad this
early if he's lying.

VOTE Qwik

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 08:10 PM
How is that even possible? Can we PM each other? Usually that's not allowed.
Dont ask questions, just smile and nod

KWhit
01-09-2006, 08:12 PM
Hmmmm....

Neon_Chaos
01-09-2006, 08:14 PM
You were tied with superman, maybe you should read the damn thread before revealing your seer role :mad: ...i forced a tie repeatedly knowing a friend of mine would settle it in the best interest of the good wizards...if you are good, we just lost a critical role EARLY in the game. Now, on the plus side, your role might be inherited by someone without one right now if i understand the rules correctly(subtly says it i believe)...if your lying, qwik must have a good human role...either way your dead(by wolves tonight or us tomorrow), so i dont like the play, demon or human
If Qwik turns out to be a DE, as I believe him to be, I won't die tonight. he Retired Auror will protect me. That gives me an additional view for tonight, which means I can clear an innocent or nail another DE. (unless I manage to view the DE with Occlumency)

A game this big with only one seer role? Highly improbable. I consider myself to be expendable, as long as I manage to nail at least one Death Eater (which I believe I have in Qwikshot.)

You should really take a chill-pill, man.

Alan T
01-09-2006, 08:15 PM
Actually by my count, that puts superman in the lead 5-4 over neon, not tying it.

I have:

Superman: by kwhit, taz, rpi-fan, barkeep, blade
Neon: by stcronin,qwikshot, lathum, ardent


This is what I posted when it came up supposedly a tie before. I might be wrong, but I went back and double checked and am pretty sure it was 5-4 then. :)

Either way no big deal, if Neon lies, He's next on the chopping block

Qwikshot
01-09-2006, 08:17 PM
It's alllllll good people...no need to argue (at least grudgingly). We are all peace loving...

KWhit
01-09-2006, 08:17 PM
Quiet, Death Eater.

Qwikshot
01-09-2006, 08:18 PM
Quiet, Death Eater.

Wait you know one?

KWhit
01-09-2006, 08:19 PM
Wait you know one?
Well, it's a pretty good bet that either you or Neon is one. Personally, I think it's you.

Qwikshot
01-09-2006, 08:23 PM
Well, it's a pretty good bet that either you or Neon is one. Personally, I think it's you.

Maybe, maybe not...either way, I know I'll be avenged.

KWhit
01-09-2006, 08:23 PM
Maybe, maybe not...either way, I know I'll be avenged.
Yeah, either way, I bet Neon doesn't last long.

Neon_Chaos
01-09-2006, 08:24 PM
If Qwikshot turns out to be a Death Eater, as I have viewed him to be, I expect written apologies from everyone.

KWhit
01-09-2006, 08:25 PM
If Qwikshot turns out to be a Death Eater, as I have viewed him to be, I expect written apologies from everyone.
What the hell are you talking about? Most people jumped ship and changed their vote to him.

Jesse_Ewiak
01-09-2006, 08:27 PM
UNVOTE PASS 12
VOTE QWIKSHOT

SnDvls
01-09-2006, 08:27 PM
erratum: I would go as far to say that Qwikshot uses the Cruciatus Curse in some way, shape or form.


I'm not up on HP what is this curse thing? Bad I assume, but what does it do?

Qwikshot
01-09-2006, 08:28 PM
Everyone be cool....this is a robbery!

There is no fear, only the approaching of death.

dubb93
01-09-2006, 08:28 PM
UNVOTE Mr. W

VOTE Qwikshot

I agree, at worst its a one for one. I doubt the dark spy would make a move this early, so I tend to believe Neon, although I wouldn't put it past him to tell a lie just to live another day:). Time will tell, but I tend to believe him. If Qwik comes up a death eater we need to make sure he is protected tonight. No bullshit like last game.

Desnudo
01-09-2006, 08:28 PM
UNVOTE GRAMMATICUS

VOTE QUICKSHOT

path12
01-09-2006, 08:28 PM
I'm not up on HP what is this curse thing? Bad I assume, but what does it do?

It's basically just an excruciatingly painful killing curse.

dubb93
01-09-2006, 08:29 PM
If Qwik comes up a death eater we need to make sure he is protected tonight.

he=Neon

Qwikshot
01-09-2006, 08:29 PM
I'm not up on HP what is this curse thing? Bad I assume, but what does it do?

It's like crossing the streams in Ghostbusters, really bad.
:)

Neon_Chaos
01-09-2006, 08:30 PM
What the hell are you talking about? Most people jumped ship and changed their vote to him.
I'm talking about all this doubt, man! Can't y'all trust me? Good ole Neon Chaos!?

"If Qwik turns out to be good, Neon gets it tommorow" what? I expect apologies damnit! :cool:

Mere seconds to go!

Desnudo
01-09-2006, 08:31 PM
Much better of an option than voting random. This game got interesting fast.

saldana
01-09-2006, 08:32 PM
voting closed, give me a few minutes.

Alan T
01-09-2006, 08:33 PM
I'm talking about all this doubt, man! Can't y'all trust me? Good ole Neon Chaos!?

"If Qwik turns out to be good, Neon gets it tommorow" what? I expect apologies damnit! :cool:

Mere seconds to go!


It just seemed a bit odd to me that you felt you had to reveal when you wernt even with your head on the block. But if Qwikshot is what you say he is, all is good with me :)

Qwikshot
01-09-2006, 08:34 PM
I confess...I'm really...


a poptart.

st.cronin
01-09-2006, 08:35 PM
..... drum roll .......

Grammaticus
01-09-2006, 08:35 PM
So, did Clark ever show up?

dubb93
01-09-2006, 08:36 PM
Seems I got back from my anniversary dinner in time to atleast make my vote. Before we see the results I see 2 possibilites.

1. Neon told the truth, Qwik comes up death eater and NEON MUST BE PROTECTED TONIGHT! We went though that bullshit in the last game. I don't care if the bodygaurd type is a 1st time player, don't mess around. Protect him. We need 1 more viewing from him at this point.

2. Qwik is innocent and we lynch Neon tomorrow. Not likely at all at this point. Too early to make a move unless Neon is just a flat out death eater and thought he was going. Would make more sense if he was a brutal type and wanted a 2/3 for one with his night kill and kill at lynch tomorrow.

Again these are the only 2 possibilites I see at this point. Will be interesting to see what happens here.

Neon_Chaos
01-09-2006, 08:37 PM
I'm off to eat Brunch. Hope that Qwik doesn't have Avada Kedavara.

Qwikshot
01-09-2006, 08:39 PM
I'm off to eat Brunch. Hope that Qwik doesn't have Avada Kedavara.

You know a lot of dark arts stuff...

st.cronin
01-09-2006, 08:39 PM
I'm off to eat Brunch. Hope that Qwik doesn't have Avada Kedavara.

How could he have a jewish holiday?

Qwikshot
01-09-2006, 08:40 PM
Did I win the lottery...oh, the Shirley Jackson "lottery"...damn.

kingfc22
01-09-2006, 08:42 PM
Can we lynch someone already? Or do whatever us wizards do.

Qwikshot
01-09-2006, 08:43 PM
Can we lynch someone already? Or do whatever us wizards do.

Play with your wand, why don't you.... ;)

kingfc22
01-09-2006, 08:45 PM
Play with your wand, why don't you.... ;)
Hey DeathEater......ZAP!!! (never seen a HP movie so I have no clue what I'm talking about)

Qwikshot
01-09-2006, 08:46 PM
Hey DeathEater......ZAP!!! (never seen a HP movie so I have no clue what I'm talking about)

BLORT! ZIFF! POW! BLAT! SPZZT SPZZT!

Hell hath no surprises for me.

saldana
01-09-2006, 08:48 PM
Day 1 ends

Before leaving the pub last night, you all decided that first thing this morning you would sned an owl to the Ministry of Magic telling them that their counselor was deand and asking for more help after his statements of the night before. But as the day progresses, no response from the Ministry comes, and discussions take place around town about what to do next.

At nightfall, everyone gathers once atain at the Wasted Wizard Inn. Numerous arguments about how to protect yoruselves break out, and much debate about who the most likely person among you to be a Death Eater actually is take place. After hours of discussion and despite his protestations, it is decided that Qwikshot has shown more tendencies toward the Dark Arts than anyone else, but you still have no idea what to do about him, as none of you are willing to perform an unforgivable curse upon him.

It is at that moment that the torches overhead begin to flicker, and you all notice a tremendous wave of coldness filling not only the room you are in, but permeating every fiber of your beings, deep into the recesses of your souls. The door to the pub opens and you all turn to see the most horrifying thing any of you has ever set eyes on. 9 feet tall and covered from head to its non-existant toes in a jet black cloak, a Dementor of Azkaban hovers in the doorway. Its hooded head moves slowly around the room and a wave of cold desperation washes over you as its gaze rotates to finally settle on Qwikshot. His earlier protestations now become screams of horror as the Dementor moves towards him. Qwikshot begs you all to change your minds as his screams become sobs. Finally the Dementor reaches him and you all turn away, unable to watch as it pulls back its' hood and delivers to Qwikshot its' horrific Kiss, sucking Qwik's very soul out of his body, relegating him to liev out the end of his days a shel of his former self, neither dead, nor alive.

After the Dementor moves away from the catatonic form or Qwikshot, you all gather around him and seize his left arm and tear the sleeve of his cloak away. There, staring up at you, emblazoned upon his forearm, is the symbol that every member of the Wizarding world fears. A Skull with a Serpent slithering out of its mouth. The Dark Mark. Qwikshot was a Death Eater. A feeling of triumph spreads through you all as you revel in the fact that good has triumphed over evil, at least for today.

You leave the pub and search Qwik's room, finding books of dark spells and guides on harnessing one's dark powers. It is now evident to you all that Qwikshot was a Student of Magic.

It is now Night 1. All players with a night action, the deadline is 9:30pm on Tuesday. If actions are in, I will process early, which will only make for a longer Day 2.

st.cronin
01-09-2006, 08:49 PM
wow, that was lucky.

Coffee Warlord
01-09-2006, 08:50 PM
...wow. First night.

Neon, have a cookie. :)

Poli
01-09-2006, 08:50 PM
OH MY. WOW. I just got back from an incredibly boring APA familiarization class, thinking blade, warlord, and schmidty were sending me to my death, only to find this.

Incredible! Way to go, Neon!

TazFTW
01-09-2006, 08:50 PM
Was Student of Magic mentioned before? I could have sworn I read something about it but it is not in the first post.

KWhit
01-09-2006, 08:50 PM
Woohoo! Well done.

Qwikshot
01-09-2006, 08:50 PM
SEE! I was a wizard! I just left soe stuff out ;) Good luck to you all...I'll be reading.

kingfc22
01-09-2006, 08:50 PM
Sweet!

Lathum
01-09-2006, 08:50 PM
Good job Neon.

Someone make sure he gets protected...

Buccaneer
01-09-2006, 08:50 PM
That was one lucky shot. Great job.

kingfc22
01-09-2006, 08:51 PM
SEE! I was a wizard! I just left soe stuff out ;) Good luck to you all...I'll be reading.

POOF

SnDvls
01-09-2006, 08:51 PM
Way to go Neon, now get this man some protection.

saldana
01-09-2006, 08:51 PM
sorry about the delay, i am at work, was late going on break, and had a slight technical problem and had to retype the entire narrative. i will put up vote totals in a minute or two

Alan T
01-09-2006, 08:53 PM
Nice!

dubb93
01-09-2006, 08:53 PM
Good job Neon. Hopefully we can get a couple more scans out of you now. Do your job bodygaurd.

Desnudo
01-09-2006, 08:53 PM
Nice, although now we have to figure out how to keep Neon alive for as long as possible.

Grammaticus
01-09-2006, 08:54 PM
Good job Neon

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 08:55 PM
Nice, although now we have to figure out how to keep Neon alive for as long as possible.
We might have 2 bodyguards too :confused:

Poli
01-09-2006, 08:56 PM
I still can't get over it! I was literally dazing out in class because I was thinking about how I was getting screwed over and how I wouldn't be able to do anything about it.

Wow. Just...wow.

TazFTW
01-09-2006, 08:56 PM
Was Student of Magic mentioned before? I could have sworn I read something about it but it is not in the first post.
Okay, found it.

Student of Magic – even though your years at Hogwarts are long since past, you continue to advance yourself in the magical arts. Should you survive in the game long enough, you may obtain an additional secondary role.

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 08:57 PM
Okay, found it.


We have them on good too, not just evil

dubb93
01-09-2006, 08:58 PM
We might have 2 bodyguards too :confused:

Yes, but I doubt they have a way communcating with each other unless they both out themselves. Bodygaurd(s), you have your choice, but it would be stupid to leave Neon unprotected tonight.

saldana
01-09-2006, 08:58 PM
Votes from Day 1
Ardent (2) - by coffee warlord, schmidty
Blade (1)- by jeeber
desnudo (1)- by grammaticus
coder (1)- by RA
RA (1)- by coder
Kwhit (1)- by king
Jeeber - (1)by dacman
superman (2)- by barkeep, ardent
neon chaos (1)- qwikshot
jesse ewiak (1)- by path12
Qwikshot - (12)by neon, rpi-fan, cronin, taz, alant, mr. w, kwhit, lathum, sndvls, jesse, dubb, desnudo

no votes: blade, pass, wvufan, superman

Desnudo
01-09-2006, 08:58 PM
We might have 2 bodyguards too :confused:

Maybe, although it seems unlikely for balance reasons.

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 08:59 PM
Maybe, although it seems unlikely for balance reasons.
We do...its a fact

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 08:59 PM
Votes from Day 1
Ardent (2) - by coffee warlord, schmidty
Blade (1)- by jeeber
desnudo (1)- by grammaticus
coder (1)- by RA
RA (1)- by coder
Kwhit (1)- by king
Jeeber - (1)by dacman
superman (2)- by barkeep, ardent
neon chaos (1)- qwikshot
jesse ewiak (1)- by path12
Qwikshot - (12)by neon, rpi-fan, cronin, taz, alant, mr. w, kwhit, lathum, sndvls, jesse, dubb, desnudo

no votes: blade, pass, wvufan, superman
I voted for alan, then cronin, then ardent, and finally superman....not a no vote :D :D :D

Desnudo
01-09-2006, 09:00 PM
Yes, but I doubt they have a way communcating with each other unless they both out themselves. Bodygaurd(s), you have your choice, but it would be stupid to leave Neon unprotected tonight.

There's actually a way they could figure it out if they were clever about it and used some code from their role. Whether they want to go through the exercise is the question (if there are more than one).

dubb93
01-09-2006, 09:02 PM
There's actually a way they could figure it out if they were clever about it and used some code from their role. Whether they want to go through the exercise is the question (if there are more than one).

That would have been a pretty good idea b/f you just went public with it ;)

Desnudo
01-09-2006, 09:03 PM
That would have been a pretty good idea b/f you just went public with it ;)

Hah! Well maybe not everyone is as smart as you or I. ;)

Desnudo
01-09-2006, 09:03 PM
We do...its a fact

I see the role description, but where does it say there is more than one?

path12
01-09-2006, 09:03 PM
Good job, Neon. What's the odds on that?

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 09:05 PM
I see the role description, but where does it say there is more than one?
Nowhere, but i can tell you we do...just like i know ties will be broken and other things if you ask the right questions...im here to help you learn

Poli
01-09-2006, 09:05 PM
I'm pretty sure I left for class with my vote on Neon as well.

No offense, Neon. Way to be.

Desnudo
01-09-2006, 09:07 PM
Nowhere, but i can tell you we do...just like i know ties will be broken and other things if you ask the right questions...im here to help you learn

Why, are you the Duke? ;)

Although it wouldn't suprise me, tbh.

Poli
01-09-2006, 09:07 PM
Nowhere, but i can tell you we do...just like i know ties will be broken and other things if you ask the right questions...im here to help you learnBlade, you make my head hurt sometimes.

Poli
01-09-2006, 09:08 PM
Why, are you the Duke? ;)

Although it wouldn't suprise me, tbh.I think Blade's been the duke in half the game's I've played.

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 09:08 PM
Why, are you the Duke? ;)

Although it wouldn't suprise me, tbh.
No, i was the duke last game...i am not the duke this game, and hopefully any other game ever...i hate that role

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 09:10 PM
Blade, you make my head hurt sometimes.
Dont think too deeply into this, as i can provide what little information i know. But thinking i have some grand role would be misleading you, so dont go down that route. I can just do small things to help with what i have learned or already knew

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 09:10 PM
I think Blade's been the duke in half the game's I've played.
That just might be a correct statement lol :(

Desnudo
01-09-2006, 09:11 PM
I think Blade's been the duke in half the game's I've played.

I think he might have been the first duke in any of the games. I remember no one believed he was the duke because no thought a duke would act that crazy.

Poli
01-09-2006, 09:11 PM
Dont think too deeply into this, as i can provide what little information i know. But thinking i have some grand role would be misleading you, so dont go down that route. I can just do small things to help with what i have learned or already knewDuly noted.

TazFTW
01-09-2006, 09:13 PM
I think he might have been the first duke in any of the games. I remember no one believed he was the duke because no thought a duke would act that crazy.
No. The first duke was Airhog. I know because he acted crazy causing people to vote for him and then he used his duke power to lynch me. :mad:

Poli
01-09-2006, 09:13 PM
Now that's funny.

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 09:16 PM
Duly noted.
Since it is already out there, we do have good students of magic, and we have a good tie-breaker...I will not say who for their own safety and for trust i might build up for more info later

Desnudo
01-09-2006, 09:18 PM
No. The first duke was Airhog. I know because he acted crazy causing people to vote for him and then he used his duke power to lynch me. :mad:

I remember that now. He basically got 3-4 innocent villagers killed before people figured out he was off his rocker.

Desnudo
01-09-2006, 09:20 PM
Since it is already out there, we do have good students of magic, and we have a good tie-breaker...I will not say who for their own safety and for trust i might build up for more info later

Do you have any insight into the bad guys?

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 09:23 PM
Do you have any insight into the bad guys?
Not currently, not their numbers or their roles..though learning they have students of magic means we have far less secret role variety then i expected...we have a core group of roles, not all repeated(dont know if any repeat, but i know we have some that dont), and im assuming a number of students of magic that inherit roles as their actual owners die off...and from my limited understanding it correlates to rank within the school, as students might be able to take over different subjects taught at hogwarts(i know at least 1 subject us a role)

saldana
01-09-2006, 09:23 PM
Votes from Day 1
Ardent (2) - by coffee warlord, schmidty
Blade (1)- by jeeber
desnudo (1)- by grammaticus
coder (1)- by RA
RA (1)- by coder
Kwhit (1)- by king
Jeeber - (1)by dacman
superman (2)- by barkeep, blade
neon chaos (2)- qwikshot,ardent
jesse ewiak (1)- by path12
Qwikshot - (12)by neon, rpi-fan, cronin, taz, alant, mr. w, kwhit, lathum, sndvls, jesse, dubb, desnudo

no votes: pass, wvufan, superman

sorry, had a few in the wrong places..i believe this is all correct

Poli
01-09-2006, 09:29 PM
Great. Turns out I voted with the friggin wolf this way.

I think I preferred it the other way. :rolleyes:

Poli
01-09-2006, 09:30 PM
Not currently, not their numbers or their roles..though learning they have students of magic means we have far less secret role variety then i expected...we have a core group of roles, not all repeated(dont know if any repeat, but i know we have some that dont), and im assuming a number of students of magic that inherit roles as their actual owners die off...and from my limited understanding it correlates to rank within the school, as students might be able to take over different subjects taught at hogwarts(i know at least 1 subject us a role)You're way over my head here.

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 09:32 PM
You're way over my head here.
What dont you understand...as it is, with neon protected im prob. a night kill target so im trying to save my hide while providing what i can before i die...if i do, i want you guys to know what i did

Desnudo
01-09-2006, 09:33 PM
I think he's saying that:

1. Both good and evil basically have the same capabilities oriented towards different goals

2. If someone dies, then someone else might assume their role.

Poli
01-09-2006, 09:34 PM
What dont you understand...as it is, with neon protected im prob. a night kill target so im trying to save my hide while providing what i can before i die...if i do, i want you guys to know what i didI guess it's more of the terminology. I don't get the whole HP stuff, honestly. I understand the basics.

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 09:35 PM
I think he's saying that:

1. Both good and evil basically have the same capabilities oriented towards different goals

2. If someone dies, then someone else might assume their role.
Yes, and i know we have a tie breaker role, as well as a role named exactly after a subject taught at hogwarts(so i assume other subjects as well)

Poli
01-09-2006, 09:35 PM
I think he's saying that:

1. Both good and evil basically have the same capabilities oriented towards different goals

2. If someone dies, then someone else might assume their role.
Got it.

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 09:35 PM
I guess it's more of the terminology. I don't get the whole HP stuff, honestly. I understand the basics.
whatever you dont get ask and ill help

Poli
01-09-2006, 09:36 PM
Yes, and i know we have a tie breaker role, as well as a role named exactly after a subject taught at hogwarts(so i assume other subjects as well)So hogwarts is a school. :)

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 09:38 PM
So hogwarts is a school. :)
It is a school for young wizards, were various powerful wizards teach different subjects(such as broom flying, potion brewing, etc.: not using the role i know, so sorry all of you pulling for broom master). What other questions you have?

Poli
01-09-2006, 09:40 PM
I think I get it now. I've watched the first movie, but I don't remember much of it (I didn't like it). Students of magic and hogwarts confused me, but I think I got it down now.

Poli
01-09-2006, 09:40 PM
Now if you can help me right a third person autobiography in APA format, please do.

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 09:42 PM
Now if you can help me right a third person autobiography in APA format, please do.
I can help you write it...i just cant gurantee anything above a 0%

Poli
01-09-2006, 09:43 PM
I just need a C, that way I don't have to repay the Navy College tuition assistance. :)

Poli
01-09-2006, 09:45 PM
This really sucks, I might add. I also have to write some friggin paper on 5 business theorists and their theories. Then I have to compare my current boss to my last boss by their use of business theories.

The dude kept saying stuff like, "you've probably heard of so and so..." Ehmm...right. I haven't.

But the guy right next to me is noddin' his head in agreement. I'm friggin done. I might as well drop this class.

hoopsguy
01-09-2006, 09:45 PM
Now if you can help me right a third person autobiography in APA format, please do.
I'm worried for you if they look at spelling :p

Poli
01-09-2006, 09:46 PM
I'm worried for you if they look at spelling :pYeah, that's like a quarter of my grade.

Neon_Chaos
01-09-2006, 09:51 PM
Whew. Time to go pick another guy to view. Hope I survive the night.

Barkeep49
01-09-2006, 09:53 PM
Blade are you saying that we have more than 1 bodyguard now or we have a bodyguard and bodyguard replacement? Because if we have more than 1 bodyguard I fear duplication of efforts.

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 09:59 PM
Blade are you saying that we have more than 1 bodyguard now or we have a bodyguard and bodyguard replacement? Because if we have more than 1 bodyguard I fear duplication of efforts.
I dont know if we even have one, but im somewhat certain(not 100%) that we either gain another later in the game or one when one dies(if we even have one) through the student of magic game...it depends...with such large numbers i have to guess on this question

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 10:01 PM
And i also dont expect many nights to go by with 1 kill, or at least role reveals nearly every day...this will be either a very night kill oriented game or a heavy role reveal game...but do not expect a slow game, as with this many people im quite certain saldana has taken steps to speed this game up

Poli
01-09-2006, 10:08 PM
I think the way I'm reading it is, if the bodyguard dies, we have one of our school of magic guys pick up the role.

Poli
01-09-2006, 10:08 PM
In theory, of course.

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 10:09 PM
I think the way I'm reading it is, if the bodyguard dies, we have one of our school of magic guys pick up the role.
I believe that to be true, but im not sure of that..dont take that as fact

Neon_Chaos
01-09-2006, 10:23 PM
I dont know if we even have one, but im somewhat certain(not 100%) that we either gain another later in the game or one when one dies(if we even have one) through the student of magic game...it depends...with such large numbers i have to guess on this question
If you are somewhat certain about role-inheritance, why were you so pissed off when I did my role-reveal? Surely, you would have thought that there was going to be another Legiliment-capable student of magic around, don't you?

Hmmm...

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 10:27 PM
If you are somewhat certain about role-inheritance, why were you so pissed off when I did my role-reveal? Surely, you would have thought that there was going to be another Legiliment-capable student of magic around, don't you?

Hmmm...
I am quite certain it would, but as you saw i am quite hesitant about role reveals so if it happens later i might not buy it...the other point being if you die tonight, i would assume the new seer doesnt get to scan till tomorrow, so we miss a night(missing nights=bad)...and im still not sure we do get a new seer, i only know for a different role that future options present themselves in the form of other players

dubb93
01-09-2006, 10:39 PM
Without asking you to tip your hat, how do we know what you are saying is true Blade? Is it b/c you helped with the rules, or does your role somehow tell you this?

dubb93
01-09-2006, 10:40 PM
And night actions due tomorrow @ 9:30 PM, you have to be kidding me. Shouldn't they be due in the morning? Or midnight?

saldana
01-09-2006, 11:22 PM
Without asking you to tip your hat, how do we know what you are saying is true Blade? Is it b/c you helped with the rules, or does your role somehow tell you this?
i assure you, neither blade nor anyone else in this game was given additional knowledge that everyone else does not have. The only thing they saw was the exact same set of rules that appears in post one, but they saw it several weeks ago as being a new DM, i asked a couple regular players for their input on the rules. 5 points from hufflepuff for asking.

Barkeep49
01-09-2006, 11:24 PM
Hmm...

VOTE PATH12
Jesse as an FYI it is intraditional to put your votes in bold.

Passacaglia
01-09-2006, 11:44 PM
Sorry I missed the vote guys....glad we bagged a Death Eater!

dubb93
01-09-2006, 11:46 PM
i assure you, neither blade nor anyone else in this game was given additional knowledge that everyone else does not have. The only thing they saw was the exact same set of rules that appears in post one, but they saw it several weeks ago as being a new DM, i asked a couple regular players for their input on the rules. 5 points from hufflepuff for asking.

I wasn't accusing anyone. Blade's claims seem down right outrageous. I'm just trying to figure out how, short of having inside knowledge, he could have a role that would tell him all of this.

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 11:47 PM
Without asking you to tip your hat, how do we know what you are saying is true Blade? Is it b/c you helped with the rules, or does your role somehow tell you this?

i assure you, neither blade nor anyone else in this game was given additional knowledge that everyone else does not have. The only thing they saw was the exact same set of rules that appears in post one, but they saw it several weeks ago as being a new DM, i asked a couple regular players for their input on the rules. 5 points from hufflepuff for asking.
I cannot stress enough i have no prior knowledge that will help me one way or another from helping with the rules. We say a very general(many rules now in place were not in the rule set sent us), it contained no information of demons or their numbers, and was long before signups so i couldnt have even guessed this many people will play.

I REPEAT, NOTHING I HAVE SAID WAS KNOWLEDGE GAINED PRIOR TO THIS GAME STARTING. EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID ARE THINGS I HAVE EITHER PICKED UP ON OR WERE ASSOCIATED WITH MY ROLE.

And you dont need to trust me dubb, but you can test what i said by testing bits of my info(i havent given much)...create a tie tomorrow and im quite sure you will find i was telling the truth. Im not sure you can test other parts, but that part you can test. If you dont want to, vote for me and my death shall set me free

dubb93
01-09-2006, 11:51 PM
I'm not about to vote for you this early Blade. You are too valuable to the team, and I've learned to trust your outrageous claims, just usually I have a feel where you are coming from. I'm having a hard time seeing where all of this info could be attained on day 1.

Lathum
01-09-2006, 11:55 PM
Perhaps he has a role like a "teacher" and he is privy to who the students are and if they have any special powers etc...

Blade6119
01-09-2006, 11:58 PM
I'm not about to vote for you this early Blade. You are too valuable to the team, and I've learned to trust your outrageous claims, just usually I have a feel where you are coming from. I'm having a hard time seeing where all of this info could be attained on day 1.
As i said, some has been stuff i have picked up on and some was learned from the time i got my role through night 0 to now...some is dead sure and some is not(i have attempted to differentiate). I felt i made a mistake in a few early comments discussing links to other players and worry that will get me killed tonight since neon should be protected. Due to this, im attempting to share all info i have, or info i think i might have...sorry if im confusing you, i just dont know if ill make it far(which would be ok, as this game id be happy to sacrifice myself to keep the key roles safe...im trying your whole team over self thing lol :p )

Barkeep49
01-10-2006, 12:03 AM
Well this has been a bit of a bitch to do. Frankly, I'm going to be very happy when there are fewer players or I'm dead. I think it's going to be worth it in the long run as voting records are more important then ever. Plus, as always, it's given me a couple of suspects which is nice.

For those who don't know bold is a vote that was later unvoted. Underline and italics is an unvote. Also note that I think I'm going to put in things that majorily effect the day, such as in this case Neon's reveal.


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dubb93
01-10-2006, 12:11 AM
Blade is serious about his ties

Blade6119
01-10-2006, 12:13 AM
Blade is serious about his ties
I figure clearing good guys would be a good thing, especially not people like the seer so they kill the tie-breaker and not the bloody seer....but neon made that decision for them

Desnudo
01-10-2006, 01:12 AM
If we're keeping score, the reason I voted for Grammiticus was because he voted for me. I then switched to Qwik once I read through the posts beyond my original vote.

Edit: and saw that it clearly made sense to vote for Qwik.

Desnudo
01-10-2006, 01:13 AM
Dola,

I'm with Dubb, is there any way of speeding up the night action cycle? A full day seems like a long time. Thanks.

saldana
01-10-2006, 01:23 AM
i will process the night as soon as everyones actions are in, but i am not moving the next day deadline forward, especially with this many people still in the game, i want to make sure everyon has a chance to get their votes in.

Desnudo
01-10-2006, 01:27 AM
Cool, thanks. I don't want to seem like I'm griping, it's just that the night cycle is usually the slowest part of the game for the majority.

Raiders Army
01-10-2006, 05:53 AM
Holey shiznit. 9 pages???? Last time I checked it was 5 pages!

Good job all!

Coder
01-10-2006, 06:24 AM
Holey shiznit. 9 pages???? Last time I checked it was 5 pages!

Good job all!

And neither one of us is dead!

Grammaticus
01-10-2006, 06:47 AM
So, can anyone list ALL of the schools at Hogwarts? I've never read any of the books, only saw 2 of the movies. I don't know a whole lot about HP.

Alan T
01-10-2006, 07:13 AM
So, can anyone list ALL of the schools at Hogwarts? I've never read any of the books, only saw 2 of the movies. I don't know a whole lot about HP.


The only one i remember from the movies is Griffendorf (spelled and sounds something like that, I'm sure I did not get it exactly right).

Raiders Army
01-10-2006, 07:50 AM
Stolen from wikipedia:

Gryffindor, characterised by valour and courage, founded by Godric Gryffindor;
Hufflepuff, characterised by loyalty and fairness, founded by Helga Hufflepuff;
Ravenclaw, characterised by wit and intellect, founded by Rowena Ravenclaw; and
Slytherin, characterised by ambition and cunning, founded by Salazar Slytherin.

Alan T
01-10-2006, 08:43 AM
Oh, I was here thinking night ended 9:30am, woops. Teach me to read closer. Guess another 12 hours to see what happens tonight!

JeeberD
01-10-2006, 08:53 AM
Some harry potter expert should give us a primer on legilems or whatever Neo is claiming to be.

Legilimens

From the Latin root "lego," meaning "to gather, collect, pass through, read."

This is a practice very similar to Muggle mind-reading, except the Legilimens actually explores another's mind and sees the memories stored there. A skilled Legilimens can target the memories that are most hurtful, causing the most pain or fear and use that knowledge to manipulate the person whose mind they have entered.

Man, I went out for the night and we managed to nail a Death Eater on our first shot. Great work Neon! That helps even out the odds considerably...

Grammaticus
01-10-2006, 09:23 AM
Stolen from wikipedia:

Gryffindor, characterised by valour and courage, founded by Godric Gryffindor;
Hufflepuff, characterised by loyalty and fairness, founded by Helga Hufflepuff;
Ravenclaw, characterised by wit and intellect, founded by Rowena Ravenclaw; and
Slytherin, characterised by ambition and cunning, founded by Salazar Slytherin.
Based on Blade’s post earlier about schools teaching young wizards certain things, I thought there may be schools of magic that give us some clue as to what types of special abilities may exist. I cannot tell much from these.

JeeberD
01-10-2006, 09:38 AM
Every powerful dark wizard has come out of Slytherin, so it has a reputation for the Dark Arts...

saldana
01-10-2006, 10:00 AM
would you belive there are still night actions missing :( i really wanted to run the night as soon as i got up. i realized last night after i signed off that dubb and desnudo were right and this should only have been a 12 hour cycle...my game calander got screwed up because we changed the length of day 1.

Passacaglia
01-10-2006, 10:00 AM
Every powerful dark wizard has come out of Slytherin, so it has a reputation for the Dark Arts...

Does that mean the books are anti-ambition?

Raiders Army
01-10-2006, 10:06 AM
Based on Blade’s post earlier about schools teaching young wizards certain things, I thought there may be schools of magic that give us some clue as to what types of special abilities may exist. I cannot tell much from these.
Dude, I'm not sure anything will help you there. From what I remember, those are the houses of Hogwarts...sort of like fraternities. They're not really "schools" in the tradditional sense.

The evil characters seem to come from Slytherin.

KWhit
01-10-2006, 10:37 AM
Blade, you have me very confused. Mainly because I don't know what stuff you're claiming to "know" based upon your role and what stuff you're guessing at.

st.cronin
01-10-2006, 10:38 AM
Blade, you have me very confused. Mainly because I don't know what stuff you're claiming to "know" based upon your role and what stuff you're guessing at.

Ditto.

Truthfully, he's acting a bit like I did last game.

Barkeep49
01-10-2006, 10:39 AM
I rather think the descriptions of the houses go rather more like this:

Gryffindor, fool hearty daredevils
Hufflepuff, nice doofuses
Ravenclaw, nerds and geeks
Slytherin, evil

Anyhow I hope that people get their night actions in soon so that we can catch our next death eater.

KWhit
01-10-2006, 10:42 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogwarts_subjects


Some of the school subjects:

Defense against the dark arts
Potions
Care of magical creatures
Transfiguration
Charms
Herbology
Charms
Divination
Arithmancy
Occlumancy
Apparition
Flying
Muggle Studies
Ancient Runes

JeeberD
01-10-2006, 10:42 AM
Or, according to the Sorting Hat...

"You might belong in Gryffindor, where dwell the brave at heart, their daring, nerve and chivalry set Gryffindors apart.."

"You might belong in Hufflepuff, where those are just and loyal, those patient Hufflepuff's are true and unafraid of toil."

"Or yet in wise old Ravenclaw, if you've a ready mind, where those of wit and learning, will always find their kind."

"Or perhaps in Slytherin, you'll make your real friends, those cunning folk use any means, to achieve their ends."

JeeberD
01-10-2006, 10:45 AM
Does that mean the books are anti-ambition?

You missed the key part, DARK wizards...

Raiders Army
01-10-2006, 10:47 AM
Regardless, I think the issue of houses vs. schools is confusing some people. There is one school: Hogwarts. There are houses within the school, but everyone takes the same curriculum.

Jeez, I'm discussing some fake school in a fake country.

JeeberD
01-10-2006, 10:48 AM
England is a fake country?

Poli
01-10-2006, 10:50 AM
Yep.

st.cronin
01-10-2006, 10:50 AM
England is a fake country?

totally

Raiders Army
01-10-2006, 10:52 AM
England is a fake country?
They have a Queen, right? Aren't those like fairy tales?

SnDvls
01-10-2006, 11:24 AM
superman - I see you lurking
you almost got lynched yesterday got anythign to add?

Blade6119
01-10-2006, 11:32 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogwarts_subjects


Some of the school subjects:

Defense against the dark arts
Potions
Care of magical creatures
Transfiguration
Charms
Herbology
Charms
Divination
Arithmancy
Occlumancy
Apparition
Flying
Muggle Studies
Ancient Runes
These are what i was talking about, nothing about the 4 houses

JeeberD
01-10-2006, 11:33 AM
Flying isn't really a class...there was a single lesson for first years, but that's it.

Blade6119
01-10-2006, 11:39 AM
Dont think too deeply into this, as i can provide what little information i know. But thinking i have some grand role would be misleading you, so dont go down that route. I can just do small things to help with what i have learned or already knew
I repeat this...i know i have acted off base, but i had a goal on day one and it wasnt achieved. While in the process of day one i said some things(prob. pre day one) i shouldnt have said yet, and i expect to die rather soon. Due to this im talking about everything i know or suspect

Blade6119
01-10-2006, 11:40 AM
Flying isn't really a class...there was a single lesson for first years, but that's it.
I dont think that is in this game, but you know occumulency is in this game due to rule set, and i know another on that list is in the game secretly...so from that i assume more then those 2 are at play as roles

Superman=#54
01-10-2006, 11:51 AM
Nice job chaps...

My first time checking in since sign-up day. My silence is not part of any devious plot, I was just busy with classes.

Lathum
01-10-2006, 12:08 PM
Blade, do you have some sort of dark detection device like a sneakoscope ? Did you fall into a pensive by any chance?

saldana
01-10-2006, 12:11 PM
ok, it is 1:10 right now, if i havent heard anything from the missing night roles by 2pm, i am going to resolve the cycle and start day 2. are there any objections to this....what time do people want to end day 2...i dont really like ending it in the morning, but 32 hours is a REALLY long day.

dubb93
01-10-2006, 12:11 PM
sneakoscope?

Lathum
01-10-2006, 12:12 PM
dola

I think people need to ignore the "house" aspect. There is nothing in the books that indicate people from each house posess powers unique to there house. The only exception would be speaking parsletounge, which is snake language and that is very rare usually only slytherin's posses it.

I think we are barking up the wrong tree with the "house" discussion.

Blade6119
01-10-2006, 12:14 PM
Blade, do you have some sort of dark detection device like a sneakoscope ? Did you fall into a pensive by any chance?
Nope and nope

SnDvls
01-10-2006, 12:16 PM
ok, it is 1:10 right now, if i havent heard anything from the missing night roles by 2pm, i am going to resolve the cycle and start day 2. are there any objections to this....what time do people want to end day 2...i dont really like ending it in the morning, but 32 hours is a REALLY long day.

sounds good let's keep it moving. With so many people we're bound to lose a few anyhow

Passacaglia
01-10-2006, 12:23 PM
You missed the key part, DARK wizards...

I thought my point was based on that. I mean, if all the Dark wizards come from this school which focuses on ambition, are the books making some sort of comment about the evil of ambition?

Grammaticus
01-10-2006, 12:37 PM
ok, it is 1:10 right now, if i havent heard anything from the missing night roles by 2pm, i am going to resolve the cycle and start day 2. are there any objections to this....what time do people want to end day 2...i dont really like ending it in the morning, but 32 hours is a REALLY long day.
How about end the next day phase at 9:30pm EST. That would make it a seven and one half hour day cycle.

saldana
01-10-2006, 12:38 PM
How about end the next day phase at 9:30pm EST. That would make it a seven and one half hour day cycle.
i think that is too short.

Desnudo
01-10-2006, 12:39 PM
That's fine with me. There's been plenty of time to get in night actions.

path12
01-10-2006, 12:40 PM
dola

I think people need to ignore the "house" aspect. There is nothing in the books that indicate people from each house posess powers unique to there house. The only exception would be speaking parsletounge, which is snake language and that is very rare usually only slytherin's posses it.

I think we are barking up the wrong tree with the "house" discussion.


I agree with this. Classes, yes, per Blade that should be looked at. I don't think the houses come into it based on the ruleset.

path12
01-10-2006, 12:41 PM
And dola, no house affiliation came in with my role, did it with anyone else? I wouldn't think so, since we're villager/wizards and not necessarily students (except for those who might have the 'student of magic' designations).

path12
01-10-2006, 12:44 PM
i think that is too short.

I'm ok with a shorter day to get back on schedule, but I'll defer to whatever you or the majority think best.

dubb93
01-10-2006, 12:54 PM
I don't think it is too short. The easiest way to lose interest in a game this size is to drag the cycles on too long. Heck, I almost lost interest in the last game b/c of the cycles. How I long for the 100% set in stone cycles of yesteryear. If nothing else, can you set a deadline for around midnight, that would be 10 hours, and then make the day night actions be in by when you get up. That should set us back on schedule.

Blade6119
01-10-2006, 12:55 PM
I agree with this. Classes, yes, per Blade that should be looked at. I don't think the houses come into it based on the ruleset.
I dont belive houses do, but i know one class is a role and occumulency is in the rules, so thats 2

dubb93
01-10-2006, 12:55 PM
make the night actions be in by when you get up. That should set us back on schedule.

corrected.

saldana
01-10-2006, 12:57 PM
I don't think it is too short. The easiest way to lose interest in a game this size is to drag the cycles on too long. Heck, I almost lost interest in the last game b/c of the cycles. How I long for the 100% set in stone cycles of yesteryear. If nothing else, can you set a deadline for around midnight, that would be 10 hours, and then make the day night actions be in by when you get up. That should set us back on schedule.
that sounds like a good idea, what do people think of that....day 2 starting at 2pm, ending at midnight tonight....night 2 beginning at midnight, ending 9:30 am tomorrow. Day 3 starting at 9:30, ending at 9:30 am thursday?

Blade6119
01-10-2006, 12:57 PM
I don't think it is too short. The easiest way to lose interest in a game this size is to drag the cycles on too long. Heck, I almost lost interest in the last game b/c of the cycles. How I long for the 100% set in stone cycles of yesteryear. If nothing else, can you set a deadline for around midnight, that would be 10 hours, and then make the day night actions be in by when you get up. That should set us back on schedule.
i agree, i think 7 hours is not even close to too short. Midnight is fine too, but past today would be bad if you ask me. Set a time for night actions to be in, and if their not simulate them or make them lose the ability, or just not use it. In the spawn game the spawn missed two kills for not submitting night actions, no need to wait. If someone, good or bad, isnt fulfilling their requirements they lose them or just dont use their role. Get the game rolling, as stagnant=bad for interest

saldana
01-10-2006, 12:59 PM
since no one as of yet disagrees.....

Alan T
01-10-2006, 12:59 PM
that sounds like a good idea, what do people think of that....day 2 starting at 2pm, ending at midnight tonight....night 2 beginning at midnight, ending 9:30 am tomorrow. Day 3 starting at 9:30, ending at 9:30 am thursday?

its ok with me.

saldana
01-10-2006, 12:59 PM
Night 1

The euphoria of catching a Death Eater fades as quickly as the darkness of night grows. Every sound you hear outside makes you thing a wizard in a mask is lurking in the shadows around your house. Some time after midnight, it happens, you hear a loud thud from somewhere outside, followed by the words that every Wizard alive has grown to fear. From the darkness, a cry of “Avada Kedavra!” rings out through the night, and you know that someone, somewhere, lies dead, and you are just thankful it is not you. Shortly after you muster the courage to look outside, and see the town alight with an eerie green glow. You look skyward and your worst fears are confirmed. There, glowing in the sky in the area of Neon_Chaos’s house is the same symbol you saw several hours earlier on the forearm of Qwikshot. The Dark Mark burns brightly in the sky, a sure sign that the Death Eaters have avenged their fallen mate.

As the sun creeps back into the sky, you all slowly make your way out of your homes towards Neon’s home, but suddenly the door to his house opens and out steps none other than Neon_Chaos himself. You look at each other confused until you reach the side of his house, where in the space between Neon’s house and the next one lays a body. You slowly approach to find the corpse of Barkeep49 staring blankly towards the sky.

You think the worst is before you, but just as he is about to make what you all hope would be one of his infamously insightful observations, Blade6119 suddenly grabs his throat, falls to the ground and begins to convulse. Several of you rush to his side, but since no one happens to have a Bezoar at hand, there is nothing anyone can do to stop the poison that is coursing through his body from ending his life.

All the feelings of triumph you felt last night have quickly turned to desperation as a search of Barkeep’s belongings reveal a group of Dark Detectors, as well as some aged clippings from the Daily Prophet involving the high profile arrests of a number of Death Eaters. Finally, you find a framed photograph of Barkeep with Cornelius Fudge, shaking hands heartily, the images looking out at you and waving jovially. The inscription on the frame reads: “For 20 years of meritorious service to the Ministry”. It is now clear to you that Barkeep49 was the Retired Auror.

If that wasn’t bad enough, you search Blade’s house next. You find books of defensive spells and reference manuals with information of how to do battle against various beasts and forms of magic. Although you are unsure exactly what all this means, it is clear that Blade6119 was a Wizard, and that he was someone who at some point could have been very useful in the battle against evil.

it is now Day 2. the vote deadline is 12 midnight eastern (board time).

Blade6119
01-10-2006, 01:00 PM
that sounds like a good idea, what do people think of that....day 2 starting at 2pm, ending at midnight tonight....night 2 beginning at midnight, ending 9:30 am tomorrow. Day 3 starting at 9:30, ending at 9:30 am thursday?

Id ask that day 3 end the night of wednesday...morning votes are usually not great, and most people are done with voting by the end of the night. You can do whatever you want, but if i was running id keep days finishing at night time. Thats my personal thoughts, as a west coaster who is never up for morning lynches and therefore handicapped if the wolves try to swap it late.

Desnudo
01-10-2006, 01:01 PM
i agree, i think 7 hours is not even close to too short. Midnight is fine too, but past today would be bad if you ask me. Set a time for night actions to be in, and if their not simulate them or make them lose the ability, or just not use it. In the spawn game the spawn missed two kills for not submitting night actions, no need to wait. If someone, good or bad, isnt fulfilling their requirements they lose them or just dont use their role. Get the game rolling, as stagnant=bad for interest

Or just replace them, which has happened a few times. I'm sure we'll have people who can't/won't participate in the game with the huge number, so it's to be expected.

My vote would be to just run the normal schedule - end day at 9:30 PM EST, etc..

Blade6119
01-10-2006, 01:02 PM
FORGET EVERYTHING I JUST SAID, ITS NOW MOOT FOR ME....sigh...i knew this would happen. GOOD LUCK GOOD GUYS!!!! :(

st.cronin
01-10-2006, 01:02 PM
Ok, well if anybody knows what Blade was talking about, I'd like to hear it. He was way over my head.

Desnudo
01-10-2006, 01:04 PM
Well, looks like the bad guys managed to get their actions in.

SnDvls
01-10-2006, 01:05 PM
wow...looks like we lost a bodyguard in Barkeep and a ?? in Blade. That night sucked.

JeeberD
01-10-2006, 01:08 PM
Geez, a double dose of death. Not good...

Lathum
01-10-2006, 01:10 PM
not good. It seems blade was a student who would inheret the auror's
(bodyguard) position.

Schmidty
01-10-2006, 01:13 PM
Everything is so random right now. I hope we can get it together before the baddies put us too far behind. :(

SnDvls
01-10-2006, 01:13 PM
You think the worst is before you, but just as he is about to make what you all hope would be one of his infamously insightful observations, Blade6119 suddenly grabs his throat, falls to the ground and begins to convulse. Several of you rush to his side, but since no one happens to have a Bezoar at hand, there is nothing anyone can do to stop the poison that is coursing through his body from ending his life.

okay you HP gurus...does this mean it was a death eater or could anyone poison him?

Blade6119
01-10-2006, 01:15 PM
Well wolves, demons, deatheaters, whatever...no hard feelings unless cronin is among you, i merely tipped my hand too early. Bravo on killing barkeep and i, two of the more experienced players on the good side. And bravo for killing a bodyguard and a role i cant name since saldana didnt. All around im trying to say bravo wolves for a solid night 1.

SnDvls
01-10-2006, 01:15 PM
hopefully Neon got in another scan and wasn't one of the people to not send in night actions

dubb93
01-10-2006, 01:15 PM
In the spawn game the spawn missed two kills for not submitting night actions, no need to wait.

Bullshit..we missed 2 kills b/c Vince was blessed on the 1st. Since he was the seer and we assumed his power was one time only we went after him again and found out his power to not be killed was never ending. We got all of our night actions in that game, I promise you.

Unless you mean after I died. In which case I don't really remember.

JeeberD
01-10-2006, 01:15 PM
I would think that just about ANYONE who was decent with potions would be able to poison him, but I think that only a DE would likely do it...

Blade6119
01-10-2006, 01:17 PM
Bullshit..we missed 2 kills b/c Vince was blessed on the 1st. Since he was the seer and we assumed his power was one time only we went after him again and found out his power to not be killed was never ending. We got all of our night actions in that game, I promise you.

Unless you mean after I died. In which case I don't really remember.
After you died, indeed :p :p :p :p :p You know, when we won ;)

Coffee Warlord
01-10-2006, 01:18 PM
So...we're in day 2 now.

Alright. I'll start this time. After Neon fingered Qwik, and eventually was proven to be evil, I went back and looked through the pile-on votes on Qwik. And am thusly voting one of the people who switched to pile onto Qwik.

Vote dubb93

Note. I have no powers, no seer things, no nothing that would lend any additional insight. This is nothing more than an educated guess, and a conversation stimulator.

Coffee Warlord
01-10-2006, 01:18 PM
...although I do have a spiffy robe and wizard hat. :)

dubb93
01-10-2006, 01:21 PM
So...we're in day 2 now.

Alright. I'll start this time. After Neon fingered Qwik, and eventually was proven to be evil, I went back and looked through the pile-on votes on Qwik. And am thusly voting one of the people who switched to pile onto Qwik.

Vote dubb93

Note. I have no powers, no seer things, no nothing that would lend any additional insight. This is nothing more than an educated guess, and a conversation stimulator.

How convienent from a guy who didn't vote Qwik :rolleyes: . I would have switched earlier if I wasn't out to eat for my anniversary. It was too early for a fake reveal from Neon.

st.cronin
01-10-2006, 01:21 PM
So...we're in day 2 now.

Alright. I'll start this time. After Neon fingered Qwik, and eventually was proven to be evil, I went back and looked through the pile-on votes on Qwik. And am thusly voting one of the people who switched to pile onto Qwik.

Vote dubb93

Note. I have no powers, no seer things, no nothing that would lend any additional insight. This is nothing more than an educated guess, and a conversation stimulator.

I think you're more likely to find a death-eater in the group that DIDN'T switch their vote.

dubb93
01-10-2006, 01:23 PM
I think you're more likely to find a death-eater in the group that DIDN'T switch their vote.

Yea, and if we've learned anything from recent games it is that atleast 1 "wolf" likes to come out quickly after the lynch and attempt to throw a vote on an innocent and pretty well ruin the entire days discussion.

st.cronin
01-10-2006, 01:26 PM
I'd like to wait to see what Neo says before voting. But Coffee has definitely piqued my interest.

path12
01-10-2006, 01:26 PM
All the feelings of triumph you felt last night have quickly turned to desperation as a search of Barkeep’s belongings reveal a group of Dark Detectors, as well as some aged clippings from the Daily Prophet involving the high profile arrests of a number of Death Eaters. Finally, you find a framed photograph of Barkeep with Cornelius Fudge, shaking hands heartily, the images looking out at you and waving jovially. The inscription on the frame reads: “For 20 years of meritorious service to the Ministry”. It is now clear to you that Barkeep49 was the Retired Auror.

I thought that the dark detectors were supposed to allow one to escape an attack by the Death Eaters? Or was it because he was guarding Neon and therefore couldn't escape?

dubb93
01-10-2006, 01:27 PM
not good. It seems blade was a student who would inheret the auror's
(bodyguard) position.

Actually with what I heard yesterday, I feel Blade could have been a teacher of sorts. My guess is if the Auror died, Blade could use a night action to "teach" someone new the position. Thoughts?

Coffee Warlord
01-10-2006, 01:28 PM
Yea, and if we've learned anything from recent games it is that atleast 1 "wolf" likes to come out quickly after the lynch and attempt to throw a vote on an innocent and pretty well ruin the entire days discussion.

Heh. Well, feel free to lynch me if you'd like.

I guarantee at least one or two "wolves" ducked into the pile of Qwikshot. They baddies were forced into a no-win situation there (no one can defend a week 1 lynch - someone comes out like Neon did, they are dead 99% of the time), so the best bet is to follow the herd. Thusly, I'm more suspicious of people who hopped onto the bandwagon.

Thusly, I voted. If you got someone better to vote for, feel free to share.

Coder
01-10-2006, 01:29 PM
I'm rooting for Neon to get us another scan.. if he can..

Coffee's argument made no sense; either that or it was above me.

Until I hear something else:

Vote Coffee Warlord

path12
01-10-2006, 01:29 PM
Dark Detectors – At Saldana’s recommendation, you purchased several items that allow you to provide to yourself a certain level of protection against the dark forces. These items will provide you the warning you need if the Death Eaters come for you, and will allow you to escape without harm.[/COLOR]

Here's the description from the rules.

dubb93
01-10-2006, 01:30 PM
Heh. Well, feel free to lynch me if you'd like.

I guarantee at least one or two "wolves" ducked into the pile of Qwikshot. They baddies were forced into a no-win situation there (no one can defend a week 1 lynch - someone comes out like Neon did, they are dead 99% of the time), so the best bet is to follow the herd. Thusly, I'm more suspicious of people who hopped onto the bandwagon.

Thusly, I voted. If you got someone better to vote for, feel free to share.

I'm waiting for Neon to come in and clear or damn someone, although I do have my fair share of suspects. My plan is usually to flush out the quiet bad guy. And that is my plan today. I will be going through the quiet ones and attempt to make them respond to me.

kingfc22
01-10-2006, 01:31 PM
Heh. Well, feel free to lynch me if you'd like.

I guarantee at least one or two "wolves" ducked into the pile of Qwikshot. They baddies were forced into a no-win situation there (no one can defend a week 1 lynch - someone comes out like Neon did, they are dead 99% of the time), so the best bet is to follow the herd. Thusly, I'm more suspicious of people who hopped onto the bandwagon.

Thusly, I voted. If you got someone better to vote for, feel free to share.

I thought the same thing going into today. I don't have a feeling for any particular person, but I feel fairly certain that more than one DE jumped on the bandwagon to confuse us later in the game when we look at voting patterns.

Lathum
01-10-2006, 01:37 PM
Actually with what I heard yesterday, I feel Blade could have been a teacher of sorts. My guess is if the Auror died, Blade could use a night action to "teach" someone new the position. Thoughts?
i agree with this.

Lathum
01-10-2006, 01:40 PM
Coder

what doesn't make sense about coffee's argument?

SnDvls
01-10-2006, 01:48 PM
Neon's here so hopefully he can shead some light on someone for us

Neon_Chaos
01-10-2006, 01:51 PM
Sorry Barkeep, Blade6119... :(

I got a night scan in... and st. cronin, you are cleared. I assume that you have no Occlumency, for I detected several emotions from you... but it is clear that you are a good wizard.

This is going to be a long day. Anyone have any good ideas? My vote is only valuable for this day... because I am pretty sure that the servants of He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named will kill me tonight. I am ready for whatever you may bring... at least I am not to suffer the soul-less demise of Qwikshot.

st.cronin
01-10-2006, 01:56 PM
The following players cast votes on what are now known wizards:

SnDvls
AlanT (counting myself as a known human)
Dubb (later switched before Neon's reveal)
Qwik
Lathum
ardent (switch from Schmidty to Neon)
Jeeber

The following players (in order) jumped on the Qwik bandwagon:

RPI
Taz
AlanT
Mr. Wednesday
KWhit
Lathum
SnDvls
Jesse Ewok
Dubb
Desnudo

The following players posted after Neon's reveal, but did not change their votes:

Coffee Warlord
Kingfc

SnDvls
01-10-2006, 01:56 PM
well it's kinda like day 1 again.

since he didn't ever give any good response when he did show up and his head was on the block yesterday
[B]VOTE SUPERMAN=#54[I]

SnDvls
01-10-2006, 01:57 PM
oops
VOTE SUPERMAN=#54

st.cronin
01-10-2006, 02:00 PM
Woot, I fooled him. I mean...

j/k

Ok, well there's not much to go on.

I am going to

VOTE SNDVLS.

He voted for Blade (now a known human and a formidable player) well before Neon's reveal (not to mention Blade's 'reveal' which I still don't understand), and switched over to Qwik well after his fate was sealed.

Lathum
01-10-2006, 02:08 PM
I like St. Cronins argument but I also like players who are active. Until we here more from him

Vote Superman54

dacman
01-10-2006, 02:12 PM
Having 1 bandwagon and everyone else scattered all over the place doesn't help so much right now, plus I agree with st.cronin's argument.

VOTE SNDVLS

Alan T
01-10-2006, 02:13 PM
The following players cast votes on what are now known wizards:

SnDvls
AlanT (counting myself as a known human)
Dubb (later switched before Neon's reveal)
Qwik
Lathum
ardent (switch from Schmidty to Neon)
Jeeber

The following players (in order) jumped on the Qwik bandwagon:

RPI
Taz
AlanT
Mr. Wednesday
KWhit
Lathum
SnDvls
Jesse Ewok
Dubb
Desnudo

The following players posted after Neon's reveal, but did not change their votes:

Coffee Warlord
Kingfc


In Ardent's case, it seemed like self-preservation to me, which good or bad probably was a good reason. He was tied and didn't want to put his fate at the risk of a tiebreaker. So that move does not jump out at me really badly.

The two that jumped out strongest to me in the bunch was Dubb who started the initial bandwagon for Neon with the second vote for him (but then later bailed when others started voting for him), and Lathum who voted for Neon because someone else switched off of him.

Right now without a whole lot more to go on, I feel pretty ok with St.Cronin if Neon is vouching for him, so that clears 2/24 players. I'm not voting yet, going to wait for more discussion and see what happens, but right now I'm just basing my possible vote on how people behaved.

Blade6119
01-10-2006, 02:13 PM
Blade WAS serious about his ties
....