Werewolf XXI - Werewolf goes to Hollywood - Game Over!! Death Eaters win!!

[Poli]

Ha, I was just about to say the same thing, CW.

[st.cronin]

Hell, I originally thought (and it's still not a half bad idea) for em to come forward, one time use or not. We're WAY ahead. However, the potential for a fake reveal concerns the hell out of me.

A fair point. So, if the witness was superman, schmidty, or dacman, please come forward, by all means - you three are, to me, cleared beyond any doubt.

[Mr. Wednesday]

What's your take on who to look at, then?I don't have any particular ideas beyond the pool of voters for WVUFan (which, as I've noted before, prominently includes me).

[dacman]

Wasn't me.

[JeeberD]

VOTE JEEBERD

Twice voted for known humans, and has been incredibly quiet.

Yeah, I knew my two bad votes would cast some suspicion on me. However, I voted for Blade out of tradition (it's been his job to die first for years now) and I voted for WVUFan because he hadn't said jack shit all thread long. I voted for him before the bandwagon started (I think I was the second person to vote for him), so it's not like I jumped on the bandwagon to save a Death Eater...

[Alan T]

Although, considering it'd wind up being a 1 for 1...that might not be a problem either.


At this point in the lead I think we have to take any 1 for 1s, we have a huge lead.

[path12]

First off, I'm not going to role reveal this game, so take that as you may.

I live in the western part of the village. Yesterday was a typical dark, gray, rainy depressing January day in this area. I was faced with a mountainous stack of work from my job as an analyst for the leading magic supply store. As I shuffled through endless spreadsheets detailing sales of herbs and potions I tried to pop in from time to time in order to keep abreast of the conversation and felt I had a decent handle on it by the time I left work four hours before the deadline.

Traffic sucked, and I got home about a half hour later than usual. Had to go to the gym, by the time I got back and had a bite to eat it was about an hour before the deadline. Talked with my lovely girlfriend for about 45 minutes and got back to the discussion with about 15 minutes to go. There were four pages to go through. So I send the quick message asking for the vote total, because I thought that the bandwagon started on SnDvls really kind of randomly, and had enough faith in what Blade had said to make a tie seem like a decent idea. I scan, VERY quickly the first page or two and have to make a vote. So I go for the tie.

THAT, my friends, is a day in the life of a simple wizard. Do what you will.

[Coffee Warlord]

At this point in the lead I think we have to take any 1 for 1s, we have a huge lead.

Don't have to convince me. I agree. Now where's our invisibility cloaker. ;)

[Coffee Warlord]

Unvote MrWednesday

Still don't trust ya, but I want believe you.

[JeeberD]

Mr Wednesday and path both look VERY supicious, but you would have to think that only a fool of a DE would jump in at the last minute to sway the vote. The person that kind of has my suspicions raised is dubb93. Just the way he flip-flopped left and right makes me wonder what his real motives were. So with that being said...

Vote dubb93

[Alan T]

Still have like 5-7 people I think are highly suspicious to me right now. I might change my vote later depending on who comes out about that invisibility cloak later. Right now though I think Jeeber has not voted well day 1 or day 2, and so far on Day 3 seems to be starting a vote on someone that isn't necessarily as far on people's short list any more.

I'll hop on with St. Cronin right now and
VOTE JeeberD

[st.cronin]

dubb's voting activity more or less clears him, imo. He was one of the last people to vote for SnDvls.

[Alan T]

dubb's voting activity more or less clears him, imo. He was one of the last people to vote for SnDvls.


Yes, in my opinion it was dubb's change that actually prompted the late votes on Wvufan

[Grammaticus]

My circle of trust is

Superman
Schmidty
dacman
dubb

My suspects are Jeeber and Lathum.

VOTE LATHUM
and perhaps king
Cronin, can you give some reasons to why each is trusted or leaning good?

[Coffee Warlord]

Cronin, can you give some reasons to why each is trusted or leaning good?

Superman, at least, was the key in lynching SnDvls with his in-at-the-bell unvote/vote. No way does a wolf do that.

[Alan T]

Cronin, can you give some reasons to why each is trusted or leaning good?


Im not croning, but I would say superman is pretty close to fully trusted. He lynched Sndvls, which I doubt any DE would do.

Dubb almost did the same thing if I recall right, however he did spur the late votes for Mr. Wednesday and Path to jump in, which doesn't clear him but I think helps make him a little more trusted.

No idea what he feels about schmidty or Dacman

[Grammaticus]

As I said yesterday I'm not fan of Wednesday after the crap he pulled yesterday, but I fear a runaway bandwagon if I jump on at this point so I'll take another suspect...

VOTE PATH12

This pretty much says what I think as well. A runaway bandwagon is not going to give us as much. I want to hear what Path has to say

VOTE PATH12

[Grammaticus]

Im not croning, but I would say superman is pretty close to fully trusted. He lynched Sndvls, which I doubt any DE would do.

Dubb almost did the same thing if I recall right, however he did spur the late votes for Mr. Wednesday and Path to jump in, which doesn't clear him but I think helps make him a little more trusted.

No idea what he feels about schmidty or Dacman
Sorry, I did not mean to call you Cronin, it was a mistype

Never mind, that was correct, It was Cronin's post.

[st.cronin]

Cronin, can you give some reasons to why each is trusted or leaning good?

SnDvls voted for Superman yesterday. To me, that makes Superman a good wizard.

Schmidty and dubb cast late votes for SnDvls. If we assume that WVUFan is a good wizard (which we actually don't know to be true) then they are cleared.

Dacman cast the second vote on SnDvls, which put pressure on him to defend himself.

King cast the third vote on SnDvls.


dac, king and superman = high level of trust
schmidty and dubb = somewhat high level of trust

[JeeberD]

Still have like 5-7 people I think are highly suspicious to me right now. I might change my vote later depending on who comes out about that invisibility cloak later. Right now though I think Jeeber has not voted well day 1 or day 2, and so far on Day 3 seems to be starting a vote on someone that isn't necessarily as far on people's short list any more.

I'll hop on with St. Cronin right now and
VOTE JeeberD

How did I not vote well either day? I voted for Blade for the same reason everyone else voted for who they did until Neon came out with his reveal, and by the time Neon revealed what he knew I was out to eat at the Indian restaurant and then went to register (at Bed Bath and Beyond if, ya know, you wanna check out their on-line registry ;) ) for the wedding. By the time I got home it was time for bed. I voted for WVUFan the second day because he had been completely silent, hadn't said a damn word. And as soon as I signed off for work, he posted a minute later (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=45965&page=12&pp=50). Talk about bad luck on my part. And once again, I was at work when SunDvls tried to pull his bullshit with the fake talent. I would have seen right through that if I had been on-line, but I was at work. I didn't get home until late and then spent some quality time with the little lady before going to bed. The first chance I had to check in was this morning around 9am Central.

And you know what? I won't be on-line after 430 today. UTEP is playing at SMU tonight and I'll be attending the game. So if there are any more late reveals I won't be able to react to them. Again.

[Alan T]

Right now 1/4th way I have vote totals as:

Mr.wednesday (3)
Path (2)
Jeeber (2)
Dubb (1)

[Alan T]

How did I not vote well either day? I voted for Blade for the same reason everyone else voted for who they did until Neon came out with his reveal, and by the time Neon revealed what he knew I was out to eat at the Indian restaurant and then went to register (at Bed Bath and Beyond if, ya know, you wanna check out their on-line registry ;) ) for the wedding. By the time I got home it was time for bed. I voted for WVUFan the second day because he had been completely silent, hadn't said a damn word. And as soon as I signed off for work, he posted a minute later (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=45965&page=12&pp=50). Talk about bad luck on my part. And once again, I was at work when SunDvls tried to pull his bullshit with the fake talent. I would have seen right through that if I had been on-line, but I was at work. I didn't get home until late and then spent some quality time with the little lady before going to bed. The first chance I had to check in was this morning around 9am Central.

And you know what? I won't be on-line after 430 today. UTEP is playing at SMU tonight and I'll be attending the game. So if there are any more late reveals I won't be able to react to them. Again.

I had a handful of people who I felt voted poorly both days (I actually am in that group too). I was waiting to see how some voted before I threw a vote out at one of them to see if one voted what I felt poorly for a third day. I put my vote on you because I don't think your votes were good (whatever the reasons were) in hindsight the previous two days, and now on day 3 instead of tightening the noose on one of the people in the smaller group that look highly suspicious, you seemed to go out of the circle after someone who seems to have gained a little trust at least.

In all honesty, I probably would have been more ok with you voting for me for day 3 than for one of the people on the "some trust" list.

My vote isnt set in stone, Im looking for reasons to lynch people on my short list, and like I said before I might change depending on what happens with the invisible cloak person, but your vote today puzzles me somewhat.

[Grammaticus]

Is it standard fare for a tie breaker role to exist on the bad guys side too? In the elementals game, when a soldier broke the tie or that role came up, everyone pretty much accepted it as a sign of being good. I was not so sure why that was a sign of good at the time, but as the game went along, I took away this was generally a good guy only role. Plus, in thinking through balance logic, it does not seem right to let the bad guys have a tie breaker for a lynch.

[Alan T]

Is it standard fare for a tie breaker role to exist on the bad guys side too? In the elementals game, when a soldier broke the tie or that role came up, everyone pretty much accepted it as a sign of being good. I was not so sure why that was a sign of good at the time, but as the game went along, I took away this was generally a good guy only role. Plus, in thinking through balance logic, it does not seem right to let the bad guys have a tie breaker for a lynch.


Thats what I was assuming too, and Blade felt very strongly about that. Someone (I think Dacman) posted something earlier that made me start doubting it. Up till now I had assumed tiebreaker = good

[st.cronin]

Is it standard fare for a tie breaker role to exist on the bad guys side too? In the elementals game, when a soldier broke the tie or that role came up, everyone pretty much accepted it as a sign of being good. I was not so sure why that was a sign of good at the time, but as the game went along, I took away this was generally a good guy only role. Plus, in thinking through balance logic, it does not seem right to let the bad guys have a tie breaker for a lynch.

I don't believe I've seen a game where the bad guys could break a tie, but it's possible. It would definitely be a major advantage for the deatheaters.

[dacman]

Normally tie-breakers are good, but in a game this large, I wouldn't completely dismiss the idea of a bad tie-breaker.

[Coffee Warlord]

I'm holding out the hope that our invisibility cloak person reveals himself as soon as they can, assuming they did indeed spot a death eater. There's absolutely no reason why a 1 for 1 doesn't benefit us.

[path12]

This pretty much says what I think as well. A runaway bandwagon is not going to give us as much. I want to hear what Path has to say

VOTE PATH12

#1007.

[JeeberD]

I had a handful of people who I felt voted poorly both days (I actually am in that group too). I was waiting to see how some voted before I threw a vote out at one of them to see if one voted what I felt poorly for a third day. I put my vote on you because I don't think your votes were good (whatever the reasons were) in hindsight the previous two days, and now on day 3 instead of tightening the noose on one of the people in the smaller group that look highly suspicious, you seemed to go out of the circle after someone who seems to have gained a little trust at least.

In all honesty, I probably would have been more ok with you voting for me for day 3 than for one of the people on the "some trust" list.

My vote isnt set in stone, Im looking for reasons to lynch people on my short list, and like I said before I might change depending on what happens with the invisible cloak person, but your vote today puzzles me somewhat.

I guess I just don't see how dubb is on the "some trust" list. His constant flip-flopping seems like someone who was just trying to straddle the fence so he wouldn't be noticed one way or the other. When SnDvls got lynched, well, he can say he voted for him. But if WVU had gotten lynched it would have been best for him (if he's a DE) and SnDvls plan would have come to fruition. And I'm still not certain why he was so adamant about wanting a tie...

[dubb93]

I guess I just don't see how dubb is on the "some trust" list. His constant flip-flopping seems like someone who was just trying to straddle the fence so he wouldn't be noticed one way or the other. When SnDvls got lynched, well, he can say he voted for him. But if WVU had gotten lynched it would have been best for him (if he's a DE) and SnDvls plan would have come to fruition. And I'm still not certain why he was so adamant about wanting a tie...

:rolleyes: , that is all this post warrants.

[Grammaticus]

Is there anything in the HP world that would allow a deatheater to be protected from a viewing? I know someone indicated they thought assassination and that would generally mean no viewing. My problem with that is an assassination took place on Blade and I cannot see that happening again. Unless a good player did it and that just would not make sense.

It makes more sense that a good wizard witnessed and should come forward at some point or the DE was protected from a viewing, in which case a good wizard who tried to watch should still come forward and tell us what they know.

[st.cronin]

:rolleyes: , that is all this post warrants.

agreed

The only way dubb is not to be trusted is if it turns out that WVUFan is, in fact, a death-eater. Otherwise, his vote clears him imo.

[JeeberD]

I guess this is just my WW inexperince showing through, I don't know. I do know that I made at least one mistake, though. I thought that dubb changed his vote from WVU to SnDvl when SnDvl was already up one vote, but after reading post 748 it looks like he wound up breaking the tie. So for the time being, at least...

Unvote dubb93

We'll see what the landscape looks like when I get back from lunch.

[Schmidty]

Holy freaking crap. I just woke up, and it looks like I have 4 pages to read. Ugh.

[Lathum]

Is there anything in the HP world that would allow a deatheater to be protected from a viewing? I know someone indicated they thought assassination and that would generally mean no viewing. My problem with that is an assassination took place on Blade and I cannot see that happening again. Unless a good player did it and that just would not make sense.

It makes more sense that a good wizard witnessed and should come forward at some point or the DE was protected from a viewing, in which case a good wizard who tried to watch should still come forward and tell us what they know.
I have read all the books several times and to my knowledge there isn't anything to prevent that. The only problem is death eaters traditionaly wear masks to hide their faces, so unless the person who was wearing the cloak recognized the voice that cast the spell we may be SOL.

[Lathum]

dola-

Somehow my name has come up in suspicion by CODER and St. CRONIN ( who has since unvoted me)

If anyone should be in a circle of trust it should be me! I called out sndvls about his bullshit spell long before anyone else did. See posts:

597
602
604
612

If these don't clear me of any wrongdoinings i don't know what will. Usually I wouldn't even point this out at this point but I know how quickly a mob can start and I have to go to work soon.

I am now keeping my eyes on coder and st.cronin.

[st.cronin]

dola-

Somehow my name has come up in suspicion by CODER and St. CRONIN ( who has since unvoted me)

If anyone should be in a circle of trust it should be me! I called out sndvls about his bullshit spell long before anyone else did. See posts:

597
602
604
612

If these don't clear me of any wrongdoinings i don't know what will. Usually I wouldn't even point this out at this point but I know how quickly a mob can start and I have to go to work soon.

I am now keeping my eyes on coder and st.cronin.

Well, Neon cleared me. I've just been focusing on votes, not rationales, and I voted for you initially on a mistake. You're not on my radar.

[Lathum]

Well, Neon cleared me. I've just been focusing on votes, not rationales, and I voted for you initially on a mistake. You're not on my radar.
fair enough, remove st. cronin.

coder?

[kingfc22]

I don't have any strong feeling towards Mr. W today like I did SnDvls yesterday. Right now I'm leaning towards AE. Both days his votes have been out of place.

Day 1 - Blade then Neon (both humans)
Day 2 - CW then WVUfan

[kingfc22]

Might as well make it official and put some pressure on him.

VOTE ARDENT ENTHUSIAST

[st.cronin]

I don't have any strong feeling towards Mr. W today like I did SnDvls yesterday. Right now I'm leaning towards AE. Both days his votes have been out of place.

Day 1 - Blade then Neon (both humans)
Day 2 - CW then WVUfan

To be fair, I don't think he was online after Neo's reveal on day 1. He is on my radar, though. He's been one of the worst voters, easily.

[Poli]

I call BS, king. First of all, read the situations.

My vote was FOR schmidty, just as I normally do, and then switched to Neon, before his reveal. I wasn't able to get back on a computer until after he revealed his role and the day vote was over.

CW to WVU, well, like others, I believed Sndvls. Near the end, I didn't quite understand what Neon was talking about...but Neon made it crystal clear that sndvls was lieing. I thought about moving my vote near the end, but instead of being a bandwagoner, I thought Sndvls was done for.

How was I to know two votes for WVU and one more for Sndvls would materialize? Heck, I wasn't even in at that point, I was on my way home. I didn't come across this knowledge until this morning.

Read up, king.

[Poli]

To be fair, I don't think he was online after Neo's reveal on day 1. He is on my radar, though. He's been one of the worst voters, easily.Thanks, sort of.

[Poli]

Gahh, it pisses me off that king doesn't know what he's talking about.

[st.cronin]

Thanks, sort of.

You're welcome!

[Alan T]

Gahh, it pisses me off that king doesn't know what he's talking about.


Turn that frown upside down!

[Desnudo]

Could someone please rehash the argument against MrW? I've read some of the jibber-jabber, but I'm not clear on where the initial suspicion came from?

[st.cronin]

Could someone please rehash the argument against MrW? I've read some of the jibber-jabber, but I'm not clear on where the initial suspicion came from?

Mr. Wednesday, Path12, and KWhit cast late votes against WVUFan, potentially saving SnDvls neck from the noose.

[dubb93]

Could someone please rehash the argument against MrW? I've read some of the jibber-jabber, but I'm not clear on where the initial suspicion came from?

How about the fact that he tied up the vote by voting away from the DE with just a couple minutes before the deadline. It is compounded by the fact that Sun would have been clean on a seer scan, so we can assume the DE's may have taken some risks yesterday with that in mind.

[dubb93]

Might as well make it official and put some pressure on him.

VOTE ARDENT ENTHUSIAST

Ardent is a good player. I think a player's skill level has to come into discussion at some point. It is too early to take a chance on a good player when we have several obvious suspects at this point. That is my take on the situation at the moment.

[Raiders Army]

I'm going with the other silent one from yesterday:

VOTE PASS

[st.cronin]

I'm going with the other silent one from yesterday:

VOTE PASS

Passacaglia voted for SnDvls.

[Alan T]

Passacaglia voted for SnDvls.


For whatever its worth, Raiders Army did not vote for Qwik on day 1 and did not vote for SnDvls on day 2, and now this for day 3. He was one of the ones on my short list.

[st.cronin]

He was actually the first one to vote for WVUFan - at the time, I read that as a neutral vote. Superman and SnDvls had multiple votes at the time. Were he a death eater, the obvious play was to vote for Superman.

[Coffee Warlord]

Regretfully, I'm extremely busy at work now. Don't look for me to be paying a lot of attention till after work.

[Alan T]

He was actually the first one to vote for WVUFan - at the time, I read that as a neutral vote. Superman and SnDvls had multiple votes at the time. Were he a death eater, the obvious play was to vote for Superman.


Ok fair enough, I dont have my sheet where I recorded the vote order from yesterday with me here at work. I was being too lazy to go back and look it up from where i posted it too :)

[st.cronin]

Ok fair enough, I dont have my sheet where I recorded the vote order from yesterday with me here at work. I was being too lazy to go back and look it up from where i posted it too :)

His voting record doesn't clear him, either. It's just not as incriminating as some others.

[Desnudo]

How about the fact that he tied up the vote by voting away from the DE with just a couple minutes before the deadline. It is compounded by the fact that Sun would have been clean on a seer scan, so we can assume the DE's may have taken some risks yesterday with that in mind.

I see. TBH, I scrolled to the Saladana resolution post when I got on last night as I got tired of reading the physics of HP teleport theory posts.

Now that my CW-King conspiracy theory apparently hasn't panned out, I agree that whoever switched away from SnDvls at the last minute is highly suspicious. Althought at the same time, in their defense, I feel that I probably would not have switched from CW to SnDvls had I been on to change votes.

I felt that the reward of keeping Neon alive another night outweighed the risks. It looks likely that Neon would have lived another night, even with SnDvls lying about his ability to protect.

I wouldn't have wanted him to waste a scan on SnDvls because if Neon had lived another night, it still wouldn't have cleared SnDvls to me and I think the scan could have been put to better use. It sounds like he probably would have scanned you (not an accusation, just what he said).

Everyone says, oh the SnDvls lie was so obvious, but people have to understand that this lingo is Greek to a lot of people, including me. So Neon saying liar, liar over and over doesn't make it sink in necessarily. Usually, I like to feel comfortable that I know something for sure, especially when deciding someone's fate, rather than relying on the word of someone else.

My BS meter was definitely going off on SnDvls statements, and I probed SnDvls a little on it. It went off further when he hedged on saying what his role was. I still felt like there was the possibility of him just being a bad defender. We've seen it before.

I think we should also look at who laid the groundwork against WVUFan. Anyway, those are my many cents. I'm going to wait until near the end to decide who to vote for unless something obvious occurs.

[Raiders Army]

Passacaglia voted for SnDvls.
Gotcha.

UNVOTE PASS

Too lazy to really look through the thread.

[Coder]

dola-

Somehow my name has come up in suspicion by CODER and St. CRONIN ( who has since unvoted me)

If anyone should be in a circle of trust it should be me! I called out sndvls about his bullshit spell long before anyone else did. See posts:

597
602
604
612

If these don't clear me of any wrongdoinings i don't know what will. Usually I wouldn't even point this out at this point but I know how quickly a mob can start and I have to go to work soon.

I am now keeping my eyes on coder and st.cronin.

I was actually meaning to repent that... I was mistaken. When I went back to read some of the old stuff I didn't see anything that made me suspicious about you.. it was actually the opposite. Sorry about that..

[Coder]

fair enough, remove st. cronin.

coder?

See my last post.. but I never voted for you.. My vote for Wednesday still stands and will most likely do so until the deadline since I'll be asleep within one hour.

[Raiders Army]

For whatever its worth, Raiders Army did not vote for Qwik on day 1 and did not vote for SnDvls on day 2, and now this for day 3. He was one of the ones on my short list.
Maybe I missed it, but where is your short list? As stated previously, I was the first to vote for WVUFan and I was willing to change my vote had he come back with something other than I'm reading the thread. As far as what I scanned, he still didn't have anything to say even when his head was on the block. I would think that those who started the bandwagon on WVUFan would be on your short list, not me.

[Lathum]

I'm inclined to give wvufan a pass, the odds of us having a dead heat and them both being death eaters is astronomical...

[st.cronin]

I'm inclined to give wvufan a pass, the odds of us having a dead heat and them both being death eaters is astronomical...

Astronomical and would reflect incredibly poor luck on the part of the death eaters. I'm assuming that WVUFan is human, but I'm also reminding myself that it is just an assumption, that it's not a completely open and shut case.

[Alan T]

Maybe I missed it, but where is your short list? As stated previously, I was the first to vote for WVUFan and I was willing to change my vote had he come back with something other than I'm reading the thread. As far as what I scanned, he still didn't have anything to say even when his head was on the block. I would think that those who started the bandwagon on WVUFan would be on your short list, not me.

I posted it I think a page back, my short list for now are people who did not vote for Sndvls yesterday, coupled with people who had odd picks on day one. Probably 6-8 people right now I guess.

[Desnudo]

Astronomical and would reflect incredibly poor luck on the part of the death eaters. I'm assuming that WVUFan is human, but I'm also reminding myself that it is just an assumption, that it's not a completely open and shut case.

I can picture a scenario where they find themselves with two DEs leading the voting and trying to force a tie and hoping no one breaks it. It seems far less likely than WVUFan as a wizard, but you never know.

[dubb93]

I can picture a scenario where they find themselves with two DEs leading the voting and trying to force a tie and hoping no one breaks it. It seems far less likely than WVUFan as a wizard, but you never know.

That would be a good theory, but the hole in it is that the game has a built in tie breaker in the case a player can't break it.

[Alan T]

I can picture a scenario where they find themselves with two DEs leading the voting and trying to force a tie and hoping no one breaks it. It seems far less likely than WVUFan as a wizard, but you never know.

Rules state there in case of no Magical tiebreaker, the person who received their final lynching vote first would be lynched. So that wouldn't have saved Sndvls if that was the case.

[Desnudo]

That would be a good theory, but the hole in it is that the game has a built in tie breaker in the case a player can't break it.

The game in general, or this game specifically? I was under the impression that a tie would result in a no-kill unless someone stepped forward to break it.

Edit: NM, Alan T just answered.

[Lathum]

OK, here is my theory. sndvls had no Harry Potter expierience that I know of so for him to make up his story he had to do alot of online research or another death eater was PMing him what say to try and wiggle his way out.

What leads me to this theory is sndvls mentions another spell, reparo, which is an actuall spell from the books. The odds that someone who hasn't read the books will come up with this is a long shot at best.

On post #71 Path12 seems excited about the Harry Potter theme which leads me to belive he has read the books. I think it is possible that path12 was feeding lines to sndvls.

Once it seemed to late for sundvls Path12 voted very late for wvufan.

It's not much to go on and I need to go to work soon

VOTE
PATH12

[path12]

On post #71 Path12 seems excited about the Harry Potter theme which leads me to belive he has read the books. I think it is possible that path12 was feeding lines to sndvls.

Yep, I've read them all. Nope, I was not feeding lines to SnDvls.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I can picture a scenario where they find themselves with two DEs leading the voting and trying to force a tie and hoping no one breaks it. It seems far less likely than WVUFan as a wizard, but you never know.Or even more likely, they try to have WVUFan be the one killed instead of SnDvls, and then hope that Neon actually follows through on scanning SnDvls and clears him (assuming no such thing would have been possible with WVUFan).

This is all hypothetical, I have no reason whatsoever for thinking WVUFan is another DE.

[Lathum]

off to work now, lets hope we make it three for three...

[Raiders Army]

Or even more likely, they try to have WVUFan be the one killed instead of SnDvls, and then hope that Neon actually follows through on scanning SnDvls and clears him (assuming no such thing would have been possible with WVUFan).

This is all hypothetical, I have no reason whatsoever for thinking WVUFan is another DE.
To me it's a toss-up. Initially, I thought that the wolves wouldn't try a gambit like that so early in the game. Then again, if they have the numbers it would be good to do early in the game as opposed to later in the game.

I think bottom line is that he probably isn't a wolf. It's doubtful that after they got burned on day 1 they would go with a 100% chance of a wolf getting lynched on day 2. Just my two cents.

[Poli]

Heh, I hit 9000 posts sometime...probably today. Rock on.

Fortunately, today looks to be a slow day at work.

[Alan T]

I'm leaving work. 5 hours left for votes, what I have so far is:

Mr.wednesday 3
Path 3
Jeeber 2

[JeeberD]

Heh, I hit 9000 posts sometime...probably today. Rock on.

And Alan just hit the big 1-0-0-0. Congrats! :)

[Poli]

Alan, you forgot king's vote for...me. Grrr!

[Superman=#54]

Just got caught up on the reading. As far as the invisibility cloak goes it twas not mine. I am not keen on pointing the finger at anyone right now. I'm out to dinner maybe some more damning evidence will come out by the time I get back.

[WVUFAN]

I had the invisibility cloak.

I saw two people leave, and followed one that was closest to me, and tripped over a bin. The Death Eater attacked me and destroyed the cloak, then attacked again as I was running away, saying "Obliviate", and I woke up in my room. I have no memory of whom I saw.

[path12]

Might as well get a vote in now, since I'll be out from 8:00 eastern on through the deadline.

Mr W and I appear to be the main suspects due to our late votes yesterday. I know it's not me, so:

VOTE MR WEDNESDAY

With the caveat that there are a hell of a lot of people being very quiet around here. Just sayin'.

[st.cronin]

I had the invisibility cloak.

I saw two people leave, and followed one that was closest to me, and tripped over a bin. The Death Eater attacked me and destroyed the cloak, then attacked again as I was running away, saying "Obliviate", and I woke up in my room. I have no memory of whom I saw.

Interesting. Can you elaborate? What were you trying to do? Were you following anybody in particular, or just wandering?

[WVUFAN]

Interesting. Can you elaborate? What were you trying to do? Were you following anybody in particular, or just wandering?
I was not following anyone specifically. I figured I could maybe see multiple DE's if I hung around, and I did see TWO OF THEM. I followed them, and saw both enter Neon's house. When they came out, they separated and went in two different directions, so I followed the one that was closer to my own house. That's when I stupidly got the hem of the cloak stuck on the bin and had it knocked over. He saw me, attacked me with a Severing Charm and them hit me again. That's all I remember. I did this with the best of intentions -- maybe we could get another today, but I can't remember anything.

[JeeberD]

Well, it's time for me to head off towards the pre-game party. I haven't seen anything damning since I made a fool of myself earlier, so I'll follow the lead of someone that I trust. I feel pretty certain that Lathum is an innocent villager and he's played way more of these games than I have, so I trust his gut and I'm going to side with him.

Vote path12

See y'all in the morning. Go Miners!!!

[Coffee Warlord]

I was not following anyone specifically. I figured I could maybe see multiple DE's if I hung around, and I did see TWO OF THEM. I followed them, and saw both enter Neon's house. When they came out, they separated and went in two different directions, so I followed the one that was closer to my own house. That's when I stupidly got the hem of the cloak stuck on the bin and had it knocked over. He saw me, attacked me with a Severing Charm and them hit me again. That's all I remember. I did this with the best of intentions -- maybe we could get another today, but I can't remember anything.

You know...this is a one time use item, according to the rules.

Why on earth would this item be this utterly useless.

[WVUFAN]

You know...this is a one time use item, according to the rules.

Why on earth would this item be this utterly useless.
One of the DE's has a secondary role, I figure, that allows them to erase memory. It wouldn't have been useless, only this person must have used the ability on me.

[Desnudo]

You know...this is a one time use item, according to the rules.

Why on earth would this item be this utterly useless.

Maybe WVUFan had a little *glug*glug hic*hic* before leaving his home.

[st.cronin]

Has WVUFan voted yet?

[WVUFAN]

No, I haven't.

I haven't decided who to vote for yet.

[kingfc22]

Ok, it looks like AE is good. For now.


UNVOTE AE

VOTE MR. WEDNESDAY


Now let's see what happens...

[WVUFAN]

Path and Mr Wednesday both voted less than a minute apart, as close to the deadline as possible to sway the vote to a tie, or to have me lynched. This seems to me to be a last second attempt to save their most valuable DE.


VOTE MR. WEDNESDAY

[Raiders Army]

I was not following anyone specifically. I figured I could maybe see multiple DE's if I hung around, and I did see TWO OF THEM. I followed them, and saw both enter Neon's house. When they came out, they separated and went in two different directions, so I followed the one that was closer to my own house. That's when I stupidly got the hem of the cloak stuck on the bin and had it knocked over. He saw me, attacked me with a Severing Charm and them hit me again. That's all I remember. I did this with the best of intentions -- maybe we could get another today, but I can't remember anything.
Your story doesn't sound right. It's really...off.

[Coffee Warlord]

Your story doesn't sound right. It's really...off.

Thought so too?

Problem is, unless someone comes forward to dispute it as the "real" cloak bearer...there's nothing other than a general gut feeling. So I dunno.

[Raiders Army]

I see WVUFan is reading right now, so maybe he can explain a little more.

[st.cronin]

Your story doesn't sound right. It's really...off.

I agree. It's very weird. I wonder if WVUFan could be the Dark Lord's spy? On the other hand, I can't figure out what he's trying to accomplish if he's not a good wizard.

[Raiders Army]

I've gotta take my daughter to Tae Kwon Do here in about half an hour, so I'll need something before then to base my vote on. I will probably check in once I get back, but Lost is on tonight.

[Schmidty]

A fair point. So, if the witness was superman, schmidty, or dacman, please come forward, by all means - you three are, to me, cleared beyond any doubt.

I'm still reading through and digesting, but I wasn't the witness.

[WVUFAN]

I see WVUFan is reading right now, so maybe he can explain a little more.
Don't know what else I could explain. I decided to use my cloak tonight to carve out a third DE in three nights -- I figured this was as good as a night as any to do it.

As for the memory thing -- I honestly wish I could explain it. The last thing I remember is the DE saying the word "Obliviate". I woke up several hours later in my house. I know it sounds suspicious, but it's all I know, honestly.

[Poli]

Works picking up for me. A few stray checkins that didn't get here yesterday. I got to "indoc" them. I'll be back shortly.

[st.cronin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obliviator

An Obliviator is, in the Harry Potter novel series by J. K. Rowling, the designation for a Ministry of Magic employee who has the task of modifying the memory of a Muggle after witnessing incidents belonging to the magic world.

They are first called so in the sixth volume, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, although the mentioned practice already appears in the previous novels. The act of memory modification can be used by any wizard, by using the spell, "Obliviate." This event, however, is frowned upon in the wizarding society; most believe that memory modification should be done by Obliviators only.

Examples of times in which a memory charm was committed include when Professor Gilderoy Lockhart attempts to erase the memories of Harry and Ron in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, and when Harry's Aunt Marge's mind is modified (although this is never seen first hand) in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.

[Alan T]

And Alan just hit the big 1-0-0-0. Congrats! :)

Lol , thanks. I hit 1000 posts once before on here like 2+ years ago. I'm not sure what happened to my post total, but the second time is just as sweet!

[st.cronin]

That makes a little bit more sense.

[Schmidty]

Mr. Wednesday, Path12, and KWhit cast late votes against WVUFan, potentially saving SnDvls neck from the noose.

To me, this is the most convincing evidence against anyone right now, so I will vote for one of them this time; however, I have another "gut" suspect that I will explain in another post.

VOTE PATH12

[Raiders Army]

Don't know what else I could explain. I decided to use my cloak tonight to carve out a third DE in three nights -- I figured this was as good as a night as any to do it.

As for the memory thing -- I honestly wish I could explain it. The last thing I remember is the DE saying the word "Obliviate". I woke up several hours later in my house. I know it sounds suspicious, but it's all I know, honestly.
Okay. This is the thing I don't get. In order to use it within the game, wouldn't you have to PM saldana and tell him who you want to follow? Even if "obliviate" erases what you could've seen, you would still know who you PMed saldana that you wanted to use this on. I was hoping you would come out with this yourself...

[Schmidty]

Ardent is a good player. I think a player's skill level has to come into discussion at some point. It is too early to take a chance on a good player when we have several obvious suspects at this point. That is my take on the situation at the moment.

That is either a great point or a great cover-up for a fellow DE. I guess we'll find out which later in the game.

[WVUFAN]

Okay. This is the thing I don't get. In order to use it within the game, wouldn't you have to PM saldana and tell him who you want to follow? Even if "obliviate" erases what you could've seen, you would still know who you PMed saldana that you wanted to use this on. I was hoping you would come out with this yourself...
See, I thought that's how the invisibility cloak said, but when I PM'ed Saldana and said "I want to follow KWhit", he responded that I don't specify who to follow.

[st.cronin]

Items:
Invisibility Cloak – A gift to you from Saldana, a rare and valuable cloak that while worn, renders the wearer invisible. You may chose to wear your cloak outside at night in an effort to follow anyone that may be about at night. This ability may only be used once.


It doesn't sound like you have to pick somebody to follow. It sounds like if it works, you are aware of whatever happens in a night.

[Alan T]

Looks like right now the race is:

Mr.wednesday 6
path 5
Jeeber 2

All three happen to be on my suspect list so I'll let my vote sit for now. I don't understand wvufan's coming out about the cloak if he was lying right now. No one pressed him to say anything, and if someone else actually had the cloak it would possibly set him up as a lier. So for now, unless someone else claims otherwise, I have to believe him. I just find it unfortunate we didnt get to see who another DE was from it.

[Raiders Army]

Okay then. Sounds good to me. Sorry about the inquisition, WVUFan!

[st.cronin]

I think WVUFan is on the level, because I can't figure out what the badguys gain from this kind of fake reveal.

[Raiders Army]

Dola, only other thing was that maybe you should've kept quiet about it. If one of the DEs tried to say they used it, you could bust them out. Oh well. :)

[st.cronin]

Dola, only other thing was that maybe you should've kept quiet about it. If one of the DEs tried to say they used it, you could bust them out. Oh well. :)

I actually like the way he played it. Had the badguys come up with a plausible story, I don't know that WVU would have been able to definitively disprove it. Then we would have had all sorts of chaos to work through.

[Schmidty]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obliviator

An Obliviator is, in the Harry Potter novel series by J. K. Rowling, the designation for a Ministry of Magic employee who has the task of modifying the memory of a Muggle after witnessing incidents belonging to the magic world.

They are first called so in the sixth volume, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, although the mentioned practice already appears in the previous novels. The act of memory modification can be used by any wizard, by using the spell, "Obliviate." This event, however, is frowned upon in the wizarding society; most believe that memory modification should be done by Obliviators only.

Examples of times in which a memory charm was committed include when Professor Gilderoy Lockhart attempts to erase the memories of Harry and Ron in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, and when Harry's Aunt Marge's mind is modified (although this is never seen first hand) in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.

This post defining WVU's use of the word "obliviate", and the fact that if someone else had used the cloak, they would likely have come forward by now, clears WVU of telling lie. I trust him, and think he's a wizard.

[Alan T]

I actually like the way he played it. Had the badguys come up with a plausible story, I don't know that WVU would have been able to definitively disprove it. Then we would have had all sorts of chaos to work through.

Kill em all and let those evil looking guys in the black cloaks that are really good sort them out!

[Superman=#54]

I believe WVUfan. I still look at Mr. Wendsday and Pass.

[Grammaticus]

Dola, only other thing was that maybe you should've kept quiet about it. If one of the DEs tried to say they used it, you could bust them out. Oh well. :)
Or, possibly if someone else used the cloak, they now do not want to come out and say so. Since they could not prove it any more than WVU, they would just risk ending up in a showdown with WVU. So by coming out first, if WVU were a DE, he could solidify his claim as a human more so.

That is just another possibility. I think it is much more likely that WVU is telling the truth. It sounds like the DEs have a lot of protective measures. Not sure they would have high numbers and a lot of extra protection. We may only be dealing with 2 more??

[Raiders Army]

Just checking to see if the dead can talk:

I leave you with this:

Dubious List (refused to go with reason and kept pushing for a tie):
Alan T
KWhit
Path
Mr. Wednesday
Grammaticus
ardent enthusiast

Hero List (more or less good... but be careful, they may have been willing to sacrifice their brother to gain untouchability):
dubb93
Superman

Innocent:
St. Cronin

BUT BE WARY OF EVERYONE. Don't just go with my list... go with your guts as well.

In the next post, WVUFan joins the list of Heroes, but I cut it out due to length.

I am using my night view tonight to view dubb93, so in case there someone else that can protect me... kindly do. :) If I die, someone must scan dubb93 immediately. (that, and he's probably the most cunning player in Werewolf that I have EVER, EVER seen)

I hope nobody forgets my words here. I was right on Qwik, and I was right on SnDvls.

If anyone, ANYONE AT ALL is going to replace me if (when?) I die, please check on dubb93 at night to see if he is indeed a good guy so we can confirm 2 good guys in st. cronin and dubb93, and for the wizards during the day, keep on pressing Grammaticus, Alan T, Mr. W, KWhit and Path (people who, despite my obvious pointing out of SnDvls' ridiculous lies chose to blindly go with the "tie the vote and see" direction, when we could have easily killed SnDvls by them just keeping their votes on him (or not voting for WVU) depite their attempts to try and divert attention to other people like TazFTW. Seems like a decent enough strat for who I suspect as DE.

It seems as if the vote tonight is going down to either Mr. W and Path. I think that if it's not one, it's probably the other, so I will help ensure Mr. W gets it:

VOTE MR. WEDNESDAY

[Alan T]

Or, possibly if someone else used the cloak, they now do not want to come out and say so. Since they could not prove it any more than WVU, they would just risk ending up in a showdown with WVU. So by coming out first, if WVU were a DE, he could solidify his claim as a human more so.

That is just another possibility. I think it is much more likely that WVU is telling the truth. It sounds like the DEs have a lot of protective measures. Not sure they would have high numbers and a lot of extra protection. We may only be dealing with 2 more??

I think it would have been foolish for Wvufan to do this if he was a DE. worst case for us, we would know one of them lied and have a 1 for 1 swap on our hands, getting 1 DE at the sacrifice of one villager. at this point thats a very good trade for us.

[Grammaticus]

Just checking to see if the dead can talk:



In the next post, WVUFan joins the list of Heroes, but I cut it out due to length.



It seems as if the vote tonight is going down to either Mr. W and Path. I think that if it's not one, it's probably the other, so I will help ensure Mr. W gets it:

VOTE MR. WEDNESDAY
Why Mr. Wed over Path?

[Coder]

I was actually going to change my vote to WVUFan because of his weak explanation, but since you all are ok with him I'm not voting for him. The cloak just sounds so... boring? :)

Also, I guess the "real" user, if there had been one, would have posted already to throw us off.

I stick with Wednesday who I consider to be the most suspect at the moment. Good night all, here's for another dead deatheater.

[st.cronin]

The only thing I'm worried about is the spy. That's why I'm going strictly by votes, and nothing else.

[Grammaticus]

I think it would have been foolish for Wvufan to do this if he was a DE. worst case for us, we would know one of them lied and have a 1 for 1 swap on our hands, getting 1 DE at the sacrifice of one villager. at this point thats a very good trade for us.
I agree and consider WVU pretty solid. But how would it be a trade? The cloak is not in anyone's room. So lynching them won't tell you who was telling a lie.

[Raiders Army]

Why Mr. Wed over Path?
Mr. Wednesday because he has one more vote and the initial vote on path was because there was a bandwagon starting on Mr. Wednesday (on a Wednesday, ironic). dubb cast the initial vote on path just because of the bandwagon...no other reason. That seemed strange, plus Neon warned us that he's a very shrewd player.

[Alan T]

I agree and consider WVU pretty solid. But how would it be a trade? The cloak is not in anyone's room. So lynching them won't tell you who was telling a lie.

lynch them both and you're 50% chance of getting the lier each time :)

[Schmidty]

however, I have another "gut" suspect that I will explain in another post.

Ok, here is the above-mentioned person who I am suspicious of: Grammaticus.

I think there's like a decent chance that he's clean, but there are a few things about his posts that really bother me.

He CONSTANTLY hammers home the fact that he doesn't understand HP and that he is an inexperienced WW player. Seems like it could be a ploy to look less dangerous, especially if he does something Death-Eaterish.

Also, he defended/tried to take heat off of Sndvls yesterday, when I think it was pretty obvious to most of us that he was a DE. Things like the following quote (among others around the time it was posted) look really, really bad:

We are missing a great opportunity to clear a wizard. Regardless I think Sun will have to accept his fate on this one, unless someone wants to make a tie at the wire.

I might very well be wrong about Gram, and if I am, I apologize; however, something seems very fishy with him.

[Coffee Warlord]

Vote path12

Not thrilled about this vote, I'll say it right now. But between MrW and Path, the two major suspects, my gut says Path. We'll see.

[dacman]

Not thrilled about this vote, I'll say it right now. But between MrW and Path, the two major suspects, my gut says Path. We'll see.
My gut says both.

[path12]

Why Mr. Wed over Path?

Because Path is a wizard? :p

Seriously, I understand the votes (though I would think that Neon of all people would understand time zone issues before casting stones all over the friggin' place), but guys, you're making a mistake going with me. That's all I can say, I'm sure as hell not gonna grovel.

[dubb93]

Mr. Wednesday because he has one more vote and the initial vote on path was because there was a bandwagon starting on Mr. Wednesday (on a Wednesday, ironic). dubb cast the initial vote on path just because of the bandwagon...no other reason. That seemed strange, plus Neon warned us that he's a very shrewd player.

If you think the only reason I voted for Pass was b/c of a bandwagon you haven't been following along very well. Last night at the deadline 2 people came in at the same time and said the same thing. They both voted WVU and tied the game up.

The 2 people were Mr. W and Path. When I got in the thread Mr. W had 3 votes on him and Path 0. It would make no sense to throw a forth vote on Mr. W and let Path fly under the radar. I think they are everyones top suspects.

[Alan T]

If you think the only reason I voted for Pass was b/c of a bandwagon you haven't been following along very well. Last night at the deadline 2 people came in at the same time and said the same thing. They both voted WVU and tied the game up.

The 2 people were Mr. W and Path. When I got in the thread Mr. W had 3 votes on him and Path 0. It would make no sense to throw a forth vote on Mr. W and let Path fly under the radar. I think they are everyones top suspects.


I think he was saying you voted for Path because there was a bandwagon running on Wednesday.. (I might be interpretting wrong).

[Passacaglia]

Whoa...you mean I'm finally caught up? Wow..

I think you guys are right on with Path and MrW. And Schmidty, I agree with you that Gram looks suspicious.

Let's turn to Alan T. My experience is that, for the most part, wolves get very defensive when accused. He totally lost his cool last night with NC.

I'm thinking about path and MrW, too -- not sure which one to vote for, but I suspect they're both wolves.

[/B]VOTE ALAN T[B]

[Passacaglia]

Let's try that again!

VOTE ALAN T

[Grammaticus]

Ok, here is the above-mentioned person who I am suspicious of: Grammaticus.

I think there's like a decent chance that he's clean, but there are a few things about his posts that really bother me.

He CONSTANTLY hammers home the fact that he doesn't understand HP and that he is an inexperienced WW player. Seems like it could be a ploy to look less dangerous, especially if he does something Death-Eaterish.

Also, he defended/tried to take heat off of Sndvls yesterday, when I think it was pretty obvious to most of us that he was a DE. Things like the following quote (among others around the time it was posted) look really, really bad:



I might very well be wrong about Gram, and if I am, I apologize; however, something seems very fishy with him.
Fair enough, but you are way off. I hardly call ending in a tie, taking the heat off Sun. He is still on the spot as someone may lynch him via tie breaking powers. Also a landslide on someone makes it more likely they do not push too hard to defend themselves.

Now, regardless of what is being dismissed about ties, It was a huge help in the last game. Someone said they thought pushing a wizard to out himself by breaking a tie was using an ability needlessly, an ability that is needed to protect a wizard.

I think and saw in the last game, breaking a tie and showing everyone you were clean was how it protected people. Sure a DE can go after you, but then they have to go for a now worthless wizard versus someone with an ability out there.

Plus I was adament about making sure everyone did not forget that Sun was not cleared with a Neon scan.

Also, in the last game outing roles worked to the best for the good guys, so it is not a terrible strategy, nor one that makes you a baddie.

[saldana]

just a quick question while there are so many people in the thread. originally i said we were going to use 12/24 hour cycles...it seems that the 12 hour straight days and nights are working out fine...does any one object to staying on the straight schedule?

[dubb93]

I think he was saying you voted for Path because there was a bandwagon running on Wednesday.. (I might be interpretting wrong).

The way I interpret it he was saying that my voting for Path was strange, like I was avoiding the Mr. W bandwagon for some devious reason. And that he was trying to say that there was no reason for a Path vote.

If Path comes up a DE, RA may very well be one too.

[Grammaticus]

just a quick question while there are so many people in the thread. originally i said we were going to use 12/24 hour cycles...it seems that the 12 hour straight days and nights are working out fine...does any one object to staying on the straight schedule?
I like the straight schedule.

[Alan T]

just a quick question while there are so many people in the thread. originally i said we were going to use 12/24 hour cycles...it seems that the 12 hour straight days and nights are working out fine...does any one object to staying on the straight schedule?

Im ok with that

[Coffee Warlord]

I like the straight schedule.

Seems to be working fine, let's go for it.

[Alan T]

Whoa...you mean I'm finally caught up? Wow..

I think you guys are right on with Path and MrW. And Schmidty, I agree with you that Gram looks suspicious.

Let's turn to Alan T. My experience is that, for the most part, wolves get very defensive when accused. He totally lost his cool last night with NC.

I'm thinking about path and MrW, too -- not sure which one to vote for, but I suspect they're both wolves.

[/B]VOTE ALAN T[B]

In all fairness, I thought he was the one who lost his cool, and I was trying to be reasonable about it all :) I've said many times today though that the short list of people who you should consider would also include me though since the way I voted hasn't been too hot either so far.

[kingfc22]

I think this schedule is working fine. I mean we have killed 2 DE's already! Woot!

[Alan T]

Current vote count as I have it is:

Mr. Wednesday (7)
Path (6)
jeeber (2)
Alan T (1)

[st.cronin]

UNVOTE JEEBERD

He's still a suspect, but that idea hasn't gained any traction. I'll revisit tomorrow.

[TazFTW]

Of the two leading vote getters, I'm inclined to believe path12's time difference excuse more than Mr. W's. So



VOTE MR. WEDNESDAY

[st.cronin]

VOTE PATH12

[path12]

just a quick question while there are so many people in the thread. originally i said we were going to use 12/24 hour cycles...it seems that the 12 hour straight days and nights are working out fine...does any one object to staying on the straight schedule?

I'm fine with it, of course that may be a moot point soon.

And I'm out until after the deadline. Good luck y'all.

[Poli]

I'm fine with the time frame. Things have slowed down at work now. Still got stuff to do, but it should be slower now.

Maybe, just maybe I'll catch Lost tonight.

The time frame is better for me, actually.

[RPI-Fan]

Mr. W has been very weak.

VOTE MR. WEDNESDAY

[Schmidty]

The fact that Path and Mr. Wed aren't on here frantically defending themselves worries me. The DE's have lost 2 of themselves already, losing another 1 (potentially 2) would be devastating. Wouldn't they at least put up a little more of a fight to stay alive?

I'm sticking with my vote, but they both (particularly path) seemed like wizards resigned to accept their fates.

[Desnudo]

I'm out to go skiing and I won't be back until after the voting ends:

Vote MR. WEDNESDAY

[st.cronin]

The fact that Path and Mr. Wed aren't on here frantically defending themselves worries me. The DE's have lost 2 of themselves already, losing another 1 (potentially 2) would be devastating. Wouldn't they at least put up a little more of a fight to stay alive?

I'm sticking with my vote, but they both (particularly path) seemed like wizards resigned to accept their fates.

I'm not entirely sold on either one, myself. I think there are better candidates.

KWhit
ardent
JeeberD

[st.cronin]

dola

I am particularly unimpressed with the votes for Mr. Wednesday. He was one of the first ones to jump on Qwik after Neo's reveal.

[Schmidty]

I'm not entirely sold on either one, myself. I think there are better candidates.

KWhit
ardent
JeeberD

Well if there are better candidates, why in the hell aren't we voting for them? Actually, the only guy in your list that strikes me as being a potential DE is Jeeber. I haven't seen too much damning evidence versus the other two. I also encourage people to investigate Grammaticus further, as I did in an above post. I'd like to hear more feedback on my suspicions of him.

[Alan T]

Right now its:
Mr. wednesday (10)
path (7)
Jeeber (1)
Alan T (1)

If I am adding correctly, unless people change votes, with the outstanding votes left, Mr. W will be lynched.

I still have my vote on Jeeber from earlier. I could change it to Mr. W, or path, or someone else, but at this point I don't see that it would make much of a difference. Unless someone comes out with something really revealing, looks like this one will end like this

[st.cronin]

UNVOTE PATH12

[Coffee Warlord]

I'm not entirely sold on either one, myself. I think there are better candidates.

KWhit
ardent
JeeberD

I want to pay a visit to Alan tomorrow as well. Unfortunately I think tonight it's pretty much guaranteed to be MrW or Path.

[st.cronin]

(reposted from last day)

The following players cast votes on what are now known wizards:

SnDvls
AlanT (counting myself as a known human)
Dubb (later switched before Neon's reveal)
Qwik
Lathum
ardent (switch from Schmidty to Neon)
Jeeber

The following players (in order) jumped on the Qwik bandwagon:

RPI
Taz
AlanT
Mr. Wednesday
KWhit
Lathum
SnDvls
Jesse Ewok
Dubb
Desnudo

The following players posted after Neon's reveal, but did not change their votes:

Coffee Warlord
Kingfc


(yesterday's votes)

Coffee Warlord - vote dubb93
Coder - vote Coffee Warlord
SnDvls - vote Superman (clears Superman imo)
st.cronin - vote SnDvls
Lathum - vote Superman (known human)
dacman - vote SnDvls (clears dacman, imo)
Jeeber - vote Superman (known human)
king - vote SnDvls (possible clear on king)
Raiders Army - vote WVUFan
dubb - vote WVUFan
Lathum - unvote Superman
Jeeber - unvote Superman, vote WVUFan
Sun - vote WVU
Gram - vote SnDvls
WVUFan - vote SnDvls
Coffee Warlord - vote SnDvls
dubb - unvote WVUFan, vote Pass
ardent - vote Coffee Warlord
Gram - unvote SnDvls
Jesse - Vote SnDvls
dubb - unvote pass, vote SnDvls
Gram - vote WVUFan
Desnudo - vote Coffee Warlord
Lathum - vote SnDvls
AlanT - vote Coffee Warlord
path12 - vote Passacaglia
desnudo - unvote Coffee Warlord
RPI-Fan - vote Mr. Wednesday
desnudo - vote Coffee Warlord
path - vote Passacaglia
ardent - unvote Coffee Warlord, vote WVUFan
Schmidty - vote SnDvls (clears Schmidty, imo)
dubb - unvote SnDvls, vote WVUFan (somewhat shady vote)
Taz - vote Superman
RPI - unvote Mr. Wednesday, vote Passacaglia
Passacaglia - vote SnDvls
Superman - vote Coffee Warlord
AlanT - unvote Coffee Warlord, vote WVUFan
dubb - unvote WVUFan, vote SnDvls
KWhit - vote WVUFan
path12 - vote WVUFan
Mr. Wednesday - vote WVUFan
Superman - unvote Coffee Warlord, vote SnDvls

Kwhit is a weak suspect, along with path and Mr. W.

Jeeber and ardent have, imo, the two worst voting records. My gut tells me ardent is a good wizard, but I don't trust my gut. Jeeber has also been very, very quiet.

JEEBERD

[st.cronin]

VOTE JEEBERD

left out the 'vote' in the last post....

[Mr. Wednesday]

Mr. W has been very weak.

VOTE MR. WEDNESDAYHow, exactly, would I have been strong? :rolleyes:

It seems like ever since playing with you once as a bad guy, you're always convinced that I'm a bad guy when we play again. You've been wrong about that as much as you've been right, and you're wrong now.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Casting an attempted self-preservation vote.

Vote path12

The trouble with being a normal wizard who chose poorly is that I don't have a better argument than I've already advanced for being innocent.

[Poli]

I don't know what makes me a better candidate. I've had bad luck, timing and voting. The same can be said for a number of us.

I can say that I've been looking at previous posts of a few people, trying to figure out their affiliation. I haven't got anything solid yet, nothing much more than what others have said. I spend a decent amount of time looking at previous posts. It helps when I have to try and look at 100+ posts at a time. It helps in general for me.

I, like the rest of us, have a trust list and a suspect list.

Trust is you(stcronin, obviously), WVU (I believe him from what he's said), superman.

Don't trust: Mr.W and path. I don't trust kingfc either at this point, since he threw an accusation at me without really even researching it. I don't know about the Warlord either.

It's tough with this game trying to pin someone based on posts. There hasn't really been a lot going on...say, expanding our circle of trust. The last game was awesome in that our role reveals were timely and our circle of trust enabled us to root out the demons.

It's going to be difficult without Neon. I almost wish he held onto his knowledge for later. It would have been nice to get a few more scans in. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we got qwik and sndvls. It would be nice to have a few more cleared people though, ala hoops last week and the last game. He really had me thinking about the seer role.

I kind of screwed that up a few games ago when I had hoops. I shouldn't have tried to hide my role (with a fake reveal) of seer and just told everyone who I scanned and who was in the clear. I really screwed the game up for us.

Anyway, I'm rambling and Lost is on.

[st.cronin]

By the way, you may think me a ham, but I am using the same method I used to find SnDlvs. No bandwagon on Jeeber means he hasn't had to defend himself.

[Raiders Army]

Back from Tae Kwon Do. I see it's been busy.

The way I interpret it he was saying that my voting for Path was strange, like I was avoiding the Mr. W bandwagon for some devious reason. And that he was trying to say that there was no reason for a Path vote.

If Path comes up a DE, RA may very well be one too.
Neon was right about you.

Yes, I think you could've possibly avoided the Mr. Wednesday bandwagon for a devious reason. Do I think you actually did? Not really. But it was enough to push me towards Wednesday. What you posted earlier about just wanting to make sure that path doesn't fly under the radar makes sense. I'll leave my vote as is.

But talk about slippery slope. You just pushed me down it. If Path is a DE, then I am. Just because I'm trying to "save" him. I'm not trying to save him at all. I'm just trying to lynch Mr. Wednesday.

[Coffee Warlord]

Know what. It's prolly not gonna matter THIS vote, but I want it noted, since the more I think about it, the more I don't like going after path or MrW.

That said, I want to take a moment to call on Alan T. A lot of little things over the short duration of the game rub me the wrong way.

UNVOTE Path
Vote Alan T

Yay for flip flopping.

[Mr. Wednesday]

st.cronin, I'd love to help you out in rousting another DE, but my first priority is surviving until tomorrow (which is looking doubtful right now).

Personal voting priorities:
1. Survive
2. Nail a DE
3. Protect a roled wizard

[Raiders Army]

Know what. It's prolly not gonna matter THIS vote, but I want it noted, since the more I think about it, the more I don't like going after path or MrW.

That said, I want to take a moment to call on Alan T. A lot of little things over the short duration of the game rub me the wrong way.

UNVOTE Path
Vote Alan T

Yay for flip flopping.
Alan T bothers me as well. Other than the obvious two (Wednesday and path), Alan T, Grammaticus, and Jeeber seem very suspicious to me. I'll check right before the new episode of Lost to possibly switch my vote. I'm not married to the Wednesday/path showdown.

[Raiders Army]

3. Protect a roled wizard
:eek:

[Mr. Wednesday]

Another thought... I wouldn't be surprised if path is a wizard too, and y'all don't learn anything at all from today.

[Poli]

Yeah, did I read that right?

[Schmidty]

As I said earlier, I REALLY want some input on my suspicions of Grammaticus. I am seriously considering changing my vote to him, since he really worries me, and my vote on path12 seems pointless at this point (since Mr. W is far ahead).

[Mr. Wednesday]

:eek:You know, like the seer or the bodyguard. Er, legilimens or retired auror. i.e. cast a vote to an unknown quantity to protect the guy who would be useful.

[dubb93]

I'm pretty sure Gramm is the duke. I could be wrong, but just by the questions he was asking yesterday I got that feeling. That is why I called him on it and he admitted it. His votes have been out of place, but as of now he's in my circle of trust as the duke.

[Raiders Army]

UNVOTE MR. WEDNESDAY
VOTE ALAN T

Good 'nuff for me.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Schmidty, I think there might be something to your musings, but I'm not in a position to do anything about it at the moment. Right now, my vote is with whoever else has the most votes (possible exceptions for people like st. cronin that I trust).

[kingfc22]

UNVOTE MR. W

VOTE PATH12

[Mr. Wednesday]

Personal voting priorities:
1. Survive
2. Nail a DE
3. Protect a roled wizardHeh, I just realized that my vote for WVUFan kinda swaps 2 and 3, which basically has to do with how certain I feel about someone being a DE vs. someone having a role.

[dubb93]

I'm pretty sure Gramm is the duke. I could be wrong, but just by the questions he was asking yesterday I got that feeling. That is why I called him on it and he admitted it. His votes have been out of place, but as of now he's in my circle of trust as the duke.

Although I'm willing to admit it could have been a case where he was just curious and ran with what I was throwing out there.

[RPI-Fan]

I'm willing to give him another day...

UNVOTE MR. W

VOTE ALAN T

[Schmidty]

I'm pretty sure Gramm is the duke. I could be wrong, but just by the questions he was asking yesterday I got that feeling. That is why I called him on it and he admitted it. His votes have been out of place, but as of now he's in my circle of trust as the duke.

I didn't really get that impression, and I am not really interested in believing someone says, "I'm the Duke". The real Duke would be a fool to come forward, as that would put an automatic target on his head by the DEs. It seems like it would be a stupid move.

Using that logic, wouldn't your support of him look bad? Would it be a strategy cooked up between two DEs? I don't know at this point, but I'll file it away for later.

At this point in the game, the only people I trust are St. Cronin and WVUfan. No offense to everyone else. :)

[Superman=#54]

Vote JeeberD

[Raiders Army]

I'm hoping that enough will change their votes to AlanT. Otherwise I'll switch to path to protect Wednesday.

[Schmidty]

I didn't really get that impression, and I am not really interested in believing someone says, "I'm the Duke". The real Duke would be a fool to come forward, as that would put an automatic target on his head by the DEs. It seems like it would be a stupid move.

Using that logic, wouldn't your support of him look bad? Would it be a strategy cooked up between two DEs? I don't know at this point, but I'll file it away for later.

At this point in the game, the only people I trust are St. Cronin and WVUfan. No offense to everyone else. :)

I forgot to add Superman to my trust list.

[Jesse_Ewiak]

VOTE PATH12

No trust of him or MrW.

[Raiders Army]

Has Jesse Ewiak done anything yet?

[Raiders Army]

Has Jesse Ewiak done anything yet?
LOL.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Yes, he has. :)

[Coffee Warlord]

Hell, to be honest, I forgot he was playing.

[Coffee Warlord]

Speak up more, Jesse! :)

[Poli]

Unvote Mr. Wednesday

What's the story on Alan T?

[Schmidty]

Has Jesse Ewiak done anything yet?

I was just investigating him. He's posted like 5 times, and retracted a vote from path to Qwik very late. He's on the fishy radar.

[dubb93]

Schmidty, anyone you haven't accused of being a DE yet in this game? How stupid would it be for 2 DE's to cook up a strategy to lynch a DE and then "clear" one with a stupid duke role? If I was a DE I could have easily changed my vote at the last second and Sun would have came up clean. Keep in mind it was only a 1 vote margin. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt based on your actions yesterday but you are making it hard to do so.

[Superman=#54]

I need a vote tally.

[Schmidty]

VOTE PATH12

No trust of him or MrW.

My gut (and my recent "investigation" of him), tells me that I shouldn't vote for who he votes for. I'll go with the guys votes who I trust:

UNVOTE PATH 12

VOTE JEEBERD

I'm not forgeting Grammaticus though.

[dubb93]

UNVOTE PATH12

VOTE ALAN T

I don't feel comfortable avoiding the Path/Wednesday situation. Especially since I wouldn't put it past Mr. W to lie to get heat off himself. He is, in my mind, the all time best bad guy in this game, but the village seems to want Alan's head, so I'll move my vote to hopefully save Mr. W. But if he turns out to be bad, we could be pretty well screwed.

[Raiders Army]

Unvote Mr. Wednesday

What's the story on Alan T?
My take on him is that:

#1: He was on Neon's list of suspicious people.
#2: He was on the hot seat yesterday somewhat, but now it seems as if he's an angel.
#3: (not applicable to anyone but me) I was on his "short list" (which wasn't a short list, IMHO, 6-8 people aren't short) for voting for WVUFan yesterday. I voted for him first. I didn't start the bandwagon nor was I a late vote.

It's like once the Wednesday/path thing went down, he was content to let them fight it out. He seems very fishy to me.

But....#1 could be taken away by saying Wednesday was on Neon's list. I don't feel good about lynching Wednesday or path at this point, so I'm going with my gut here: Alan T.

[Coffee Warlord]

What's the story on Alan T?

Shot for the tie (which I STILL feel would have been a horrible play yesterday) last night, was big on not lynchin SnDvls at all. Kept on going with Neon about said tie, and I'm not thrilled about his responses through that whole fiasco.

Immediatly tried to cast a bunch of suspicion on me when I came out shooting early. That in itself it not surprising, hell, I expected it, but these things add up.

If you have time, re-read some of his posts. I don't have HARD evidence, but it's just a collection of little things I don't like.

[Coffee Warlord]

And I'll be damned. Broke 6,000.

[Raiders Army]

UNVOTE PATH12

VOTE ALAN T

I don't feel comfortable avoiding the Path/Wednesday situation. Especially since I wouldn't put it past Mr. W to lie to get heat off himself. He is, in my mind, the all time best bad guy in this game, but the village seems to want Alan's head, so I'll move my vote to hopefully save Mr. W. But if he turns out to be bad, we could be pretty well screwed.
Well, I think you're not including yourself on that all-time best bad guy list. :D

But I agree. The problem is that he did his reveal somewhat "late" in the lynching cycle. If someone else is the real bodyguard, then they may not log on to dispute his claim. I think within the next 24 hours we'll know if someone calls him out on it.

[Raiders Army]

And I'll be damned. Broke 6,000.
Gratz.

[Schmidty]

Schmidty, anyone you haven't accused of being a DE yet in this game? How stupid would it be for 2 DE's to cook up a strategy to lynch a DE and then "clear" one with a stupid duke role? If I was a DE I could have easily changed my vote at the last second and Sun would have came up clean. Keep in mind it was only a 1 vote margin. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt based on your actions yesterday but you are making it hard to do so.

I have never actually "accused" of definitely being a DE, drama queen. ;)

All I've done is look up a few (like 4) people that struck me as suspicious, and I've only tabbed two (non-Mr. Wed and path) as being "fishy". As an aside, I said that you would only look fishy if my my small suspicion of Jesse was true, so stop getting your panties in a bunch.

[Poli]

Good enough for me at this point. I'm not particularly sold on Mr. Wednesday anymore. I have concern for path and jeeber..but I really need to do more homework on jeeber.

Btw, congrats, Warlord. Win an election, will ya?

Vote Alan T

[Schmidty]

My gut (and my recent "investigation" of him), tells me that I shouldn't vote for who he votes for. I'll go with the guys votes who I trust:

UNVOTE PATH 12

VOTE JEEBERD

I'm not forgeting Grammaticus though.

Fixing this:

UNVOTE PATH 12

VOTE JEEBERD

[Raiders Army]

Okay. I'm out for the night. I'm going to leave my vote for Alan T as is, since it seems as if the tide is turning that way. I hope that's the right decision.

[Schmidty]

I have never actually "accused" of definitely being a DE, drama queen. ;)

All I've done is look up a few (like 4) people that struck me as suspicious, and I've only tabbed two (non-Mr. Wed and path) as being "fishy". As an aside, I said that you would only look fishy if my my small suspicion of Jesse was true, so stop getting your panties in a bunch.


That should say

"I have never actually "accused" anyone of definitely being a DE, drama queen. ;)".

Also, I just think it's funny that the person who accused me of not helping and hurting the villagers (which I was and am) in the last WW game I played in, is being semi-angrily defensive when I mention his name, but never actually say that I think he's a DE. I actually have time for this game, and am trying to help us (Wizards) win by actually trying to sort through the evidence and making observations about people. I would have thought you'd approve of that Dubb. What's up?

[dubb93]

That should say

"I have never actually "accused" anyone of definitely being a DE, drama queen. ;)".

Also, I just think it's funny that the person who accused me of not helping and hurting the villagers (which I was and am) in the last WW game I played in, is being semi-angrily defensive when I mention his name, but never actually say that I think he's a DE. I actually have time for this game, and am trying to help us (Wizards) win by actually trying to sort through the evidence and making observations about people. I would have thought you'd approve of that Dubb. What's up?

I'm not getting angry, defensive yes. I'm trying to protect myself since I know I'm good and attempting to get my point across. Gramm never came out and said he was the duke untill later. He asked questions about how to use the role without acting like he was actually the duke, much as I did when I first started playing the game.

I began to get curious and figured everyone was experienced enough to notice what he was doing. At that point I asked him if he was planning on using his power.

At his point it becomes fishy. I believe he was being honest and had no clue what the best play for his role was. If he was an experienced player I would say he could be lieing, but as is I'm inclined to believe him. I'm just getting my point across much as you are.

You then get a hair brained idea about me and him getting together and making up the duke role for him. So I came I got my point across that that was probably the dumbest theory I've ever heard of. If he is bad he simply saw he got my attention when I tried to finger his role and he ran with it.

[Poli]

OOG: Mr. Powers, please check your HT mail. I have a question about goalkeepers.

[Schmidty]

You then get a hair brained idea about me and him getting together and making up the duke role for him. So I came I got my point across that that was probably the dumbest theory I've ever heard of.

You're being so emotional. I'm just calling it the way I see it. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but at least I'm putting forth the full effort my genius mind can muster.

As far as my musings in this game being the dumbest theory you've ever heard of, you've obviously never heard of the Flat Earth Society. ;)

[Mr. Wednesday]

Considering I've never been on a winning wolf/mafia/whatever side, I'm flattered dubb thinks I'm one of the all-time great baddies. :)

[Mr. Wednesday]

And, does anybody have a current count?

[dubb93]

You're being so emotional. I'm just calling it the way I see it. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but at least I'm putting forth the full effort my genius mind can muster.

As far as my musings in this game being the dumbest theory you've ever heard of, you've obviously never heard of the Flat Earth Society. ;)

OK, I take back what I said about dumbest. I have heard of the flat earth society. :D

[Poli]

Considering I've never been on a winning wolf/mafia/whatever side, I'm flattered dubb thinks I'm one of the all-time great baddies. :)Maybe it was my newness to the game, but I've always considered you a great player. I seem to recall you helping us to a villager victory. Maybe I was wrong.

I should update my signature, though. ;)

[Mr. Wednesday]

I've seldom survived to the end of villager victories, although to an extent that's the nature of these games. One that I do remember is the X-Com game, where the good guys won more in spite of me than because of me.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I make a three-way tie between me, path12, and Alan T right now, with Jeebs trailing at four votes. If no votes come in, I will break the tie by switching to Alan because I believe I lose the tiebreaker.

[saldana]

2 minutes to go

3 way tie at 6

[Schmidty]

2 minutes to go

3 way tie at 6

Who is it that're tied?

[Mr. Wednesday]

UNVOTE path12
VOTE Alan T

It's my head on the block, and I really don't have a preference for one over the other.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Right now, 6 for me, 5 for path12, 7 for Alan T.

[saldana]

voting closed

[dacman]

I have:

Alan T 7
Mr. W 6
Path 6
Jeeber 3

[Schmidty]

Wow. This is obviously a pivotal point in the game.

[Coffee Warlord]

Moment of truth coming.

[Alan T]

well geesh, that will teach me to take care of a work phone call. COme back and a huge swing to lynch me :)

Well you all guessed wrongly.

Good luck though on getting the rest of the bad guys. I always wanted to be the first person falsely lynched in a game! :)

[Coffee Warlord]

Anyone else notice that I seem to have some special "people vote with me instantaneously" power this game?

This worries me a little bit, though I think I'm on the right track here.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Of course, if Alan turns out to be a normal wizard, my head will still be on the block tomorrow, but there you are... maybe I can actually do something useful other than bringing suspicion on myself... :(

[Schmidty]

Of course, if Alan turns out to be a normal wizard, my head will still be on the block tomorrow, but there you are... maybe I can actually do something useful other than bringing suspicion on myself... :(

I think your head would be more than just on the block tommorrow, it would be in the basket.

[saldana]

For the second night in a row, it comes down to the last second, but this time amongst three of you. The rattling breath of the Dementor is the only sound in the room as Mr. Wednesdaychanges his vote at the Zero hour to save his own soul. AlanT barely says a word as the Dementor approaches. He almost doesn't seem to realize what is about to happen to him. The hood falls back and the Kiss is delivered without any sound of protest from AlanT.

The crowd of you rush over as soon as the Dementor moves away and anxiously tear the sleeve off Alan's robes. Everyone stops dead in their tracks as they realize there is nothing there. Frenzied now, you tear off the other sleeve, hoping for some reason the mark is on the right arm instead. But again, there is nothing there. The rush of satisfaction from the previous two nights is today replaced by confusion, suspicion, and despair as you realize that AlanT was a Wizard.

You all move off from the pub and head to Alan's rooms...a search of his closets yield jars of disgusting looking creatures, powders, and pieces of dead animals. The final piece of the puzzle comes from the basement, where a large bubbling cauldron sits upon a bright blue flame. AlanT was the Potions Master


final Day 2 votes:

AlanT - (7) Passacaglia, Coffee Warlord, Raiders Army, RPI-Fan, Dubb93, Ardent Enthusiast, Mr. Wednesday

Mr. W. - (6) Dacman, coder, Path12, WVUFan, TazFTW, Desnudo

Path12 - (5) Grammaticus, Lathum, JeeberD, KingFC22, Jesse_Ewiak

JeeberD - (4) AlanT, St Cronin, Superman=#54, Schmidty

[Schmidty]

I need to go make dinner (florentine pizza), but I'll be checking every 15 minutes or so. I hope and pray that AlanT was a DE.

[Coffee Warlord]

Potions Master. He was Snape. He was evil anyway. :)

Well, shit fuck damn hell. Any bright ideas?

[Schmidty]

Well, that fucking sucks. I say that we have quite a few new people (other than Mr. W) who need to their posts and actions scrutinized more deeply.... :(

[dacman]

What the hell is a potions master?

[dubb93]

FUCK! I knew Path or Mr. W was the way to go today.

[saldana]

Night 3 has begun...deadline for night actions is 9:30 am (since there were no objections)

[Schmidty]

Potions Master. He was Snape. He was evil anyway. :)

Well, shit fuck damn hell. Any bright ideas?

Ah, true. Wasn't thinking of that; however, aren't there theories that although Snape "did something bad" (spoiler-protection), he might have done that thing to that person as a promise?

[Coffee Warlord]

Ah, true. Wasn't thinking of that; however, aren't there theories that although Snape "did something bad" (spoiler-protection), he might have done that thing to that person as a promise?

I tend to think he did indeed do that as a promise, honestly.

But neither here nor there at this point. I WOULD like to know just what the hell a potions master does/did in this game, though.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I'm starting to get the feeling that we're 1/3 of the way to spending three days chasing ghosts.

The way this lynch played out, at least two of the three people up for vote were wizards (myself and Alan T). I don't know about path12, but he wasn't in immediate danger at the time of the big swing to Alan, which makes me think that the ringleaders of the swing were most likely doing it out of good intentions.

If I don't wrapped up in defending myself tomorrow, maybe I'll try to dig into the rest of the suspect list -- I think people who did not change their vote today (or cast a single late vote) should get some particular attention.

[Poli]

That sucks. Sorry, Alan. We'll avenge you.


That thing to that person...shrouded in mystery. :)

[Poli]

I tend to think he did indeed do that as a promise, honestly.

But neither here nor there at this point. I WOULD like to know just what the hell a potions master does/did in this game, though.Agreed.

[saldana]

i realized while updating post 1 that i have told you what everyone's role was upon their death (although not necessarily what they do :)) except for Blade.

Blade was the Master of Defense Against the Dark Arts

here is an updated roster for those scoring at home.

1.Alan T, Wizard, Potions Master, Lynched Day 3
2.SnDvls, Death Eater, Occlumens, Lynched Day 2
3.Barkeep49, Wizard, Retired Auror, Murdered Night 1
4.Path12
5.Mr. Wednesday
6.Ardent Enthusiast
7.Dacman
8.Lathum
9.Blade6119, Wizard, Master of DAtDA, Poisoned Night 1
10.St Cronin
11.Passacaglia
12.Desnudo
13.Coder
14.Raiders Army
15.Schmidty
16.KWhit
17.TazFTW
18.Dubb93
19.JeeberD
20.WVUFan
21.Kingfc22
22.Superman=#54
23.RPI-Fan
24.Grammaticus
25.Coffee Warlord
26.Neon_Chaos, Wizard, Legilimens, Murdered, Night 2
27.Jesse_Ewiak
28.Qwikshot - Death Eater, student of magic, lynched day 1

[Superman=#54]

Sorry AllenT, eventhough I didn't vote for you.

[path12]

I'm starting to get the feeling that we're 1/3 of the way to spending three days chasing ghosts.

The way this lynch played out, at least two of the three people up for vote were wizards (myself and Alan T).

If what you say is true, we are.

[Schmidty]

I'm starting to get the feeling that we're 1/3 of the way to spending three days chasing ghosts.

I think that that's the exact thing a DE would say after saving his own ass by casting the deciding vote on a Wizard.

[path12]

Dola, and if what you say is true, and they are chasing ghosts with us, then maybe we should look at who are the fiercest proponents and see if they might have any reasons for wizards to die?

[Schmidty]

Dola, and if what you say is true, and they are chasing ghosts with us, then maybe we should look at who are the fiercest proponents and see if they might have any reasons for wizards to die?

Interesting post. Interesting post.

That's all I'll say.

[path12]

I've got a couple in mind, but I think I'll wait until tomorrow.

[path12]

But one more dola. When I say this I'm not vouching for Mr W. I haven't the faintest idea as to if he is a DE or not.

[Lathum]

Mr. W, you better come up with something good...

[Lathum]

dola


I'm still suspicious of path unless he comes up with a reason why I shouldn't be.

[Lathum]

sure got quiet around here. Someone hold me.

[Schmidty]

sure got quiet around here. Someone hold me.

Why? Can't you hit the bowl on your own?

[Lathum]

Why? Can't you hit the bowl on your own?
lol

one to many butterbeers...

[kingfc22]

So what is the Potion's Master?