2006 FOFC Hardcore Baseball League (Draft Underway!)

[sterlingice]

This is a continuation of this thread 2006 Yahoo Fantasy Baseball (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=47180), specifically for the one league.

Current Notes
*Draft underway!
*Draft Spreadsheet: http://www.sunflower.com/~sterlingice/fofcdraft.htm (http://www.sunflower.com/%7Esterlingice/fofcdraft.htm)
*Draft board in post #2

I'm thinking of starting the "slow live" draft on Monday with the following rules:
1) You have 24 hours to make your pick. However, try to take less than that as if everyone takes that much time, it will be 3 seasons from now before we finish the complete draft. Try to check every morning and night, particularly if you know your pick is coming up.
2) I will try and maintain a spreadsheet with the picks, making them easier to keep track of and host it on my own site. That will be posted once we start.
3) If you know you're going to be gone and might miss a pick (ie you could pick in any 24 hour period so no "I didn't think the draft would get back to me"), you can either email me a list or designate a proxy in the thread (I nominate "User X" to pick for me). Probably best to use someone not in the league so that there is no potential conflict of interest.
4) If you go 24 hours without a pick, you will get the highest player left on the board on the Yahoo O-Rank at that time, regardless of position, injury status, etc. We have to be unbiased about this automated process. Once the 24 hours are up, either I will post the pick if I'm on or another player may post it as "List Pick" for that team so that we can proceed with the draft. I trust that list picks will be honest unless we have problems (ie "I want the next person on the O-Rank list so I'll say the next person instead in the thread and pick the other guy").
EDIT: 4A) Here's an updated list of the O-Rank that players will be chosen off of if we have to "cpu pick": website (http://www.sunflower.com/%7Esterlingice/yahoo.htm). And here are some general notes about it: post (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=1075437&postcount=247).
5) If you miss 2 picks in the draft, you are out and another owner will replace you with your currently drafted team and continue drafting from there.

A couple of notes from another post:
A last couple of things before the draft:
* Draft picks go in this thread.
* There is no trading of picks but you can trade players picked, of course. So, if you want to give up 1.1 and 2.12 for 1.12 and 2.1, you just trade those players who were picked but you have to wait until we finish the draft.
* The clock for the first pick officially starts at 12:01am CT Monday morning. However, if Simms (and anyone else, in order) wants to make their picks, they're free to. However, any pick made before 12:01am will count as a pick made at 12:01 for the purposes of having a late pick. So, if Simms picks at 9:35pm CT and Ramzavail picks at 9:40pm CT but CleBrownsFan doesn't realize we've started early, he still has until 12:01am Tuesday before the list picks for him. This, of course, only counts for the first day- we're just assuming any early picks are at "12:01" so no one gets screwed by us starting early. So, in short, you can start early but we aren't going to penalize anyone for it. Ok, this was part of the reason for avoiding trades- we've gotten to a pick and now everyone has to wait for a trade rather than picking and moving along. So I guess we do kindof allow trades as there was one earlier in the day despite the "no trades allowed" unless there are objections.

So, here's the deal: if you post about waiting for a trade, you have an hour to complete the trade. You still have your full time to pick (24 hours) but if you're around and posting for a trade, you should be looking for what player to pick not "holding the draft hostage" until you get a deal. You can still always trade players after the draft.
Old News

Check the stat categories, rules, etc. Do we need to change up one of the categories? How about the minimum IPs? Too many bench positions? We gotta figure these things out in the next couple of days *before* the draft.

Everyone who is in the league, post here as a "check in" and if you have some thoughts about the rules, go ahead. We'll debate them for the next couple of days and see what needs to be changed.


Draft Order
1. Name Withheld 9
2. Jockitch 2
3. Dog Pound 10
4. BigMac'sSpecialSauce 5
5. Lawrence Lumber 11
6. Troy Trojans 4
7. Big Raf Machine 7
8. Butch Wynegar 4 HOF 1
9. Fremont Firebirds 3
10. Fat Bastardo's 8
11. Bearcats 6
12. Johnny93g's Jays 12

SI

[sterlingice]

Round 1
1. Alex Rodriguez
2. Albert Pujols
3. Manny Ramirez
4. Vlad Guerrero
5. Johan Santana
6. Mark Teixeira
7. David Wright
8. Derrek Lee
9. David Ortiz
10. Miguel Tejada
11. Miguel Cabrera
12. Roy Halladay

Round 2
1. Carl Crawford
2. Jake Peavy
3. Alfonso Soriano
4. Roy Oswalt
5. Bobby Abreu
6. Michael Young
7. Chris Carpenter
8. Jason Bay
9. Chase Utley
10. Pedro Martinez
11. Dontrelle Willis
12. Carlos Zambrano

Round 3
1. Andruw Jones
2. Jose Reyes
3. Travis Hafner
4. Randy Johnson
5. Todd Helton
6. Gary Sheffield
7. Victor Martinez
8. Ichiro Suzuki
9. Chone Figgins
10. Mark Buehrle
11. Aramis Ramirez
12. Vernon Wells

Round 4
1. Eric Chavez
2. Lance Berkman
3. Carlos Beltran
4. Jason Varitek
5. Mariano Rivera
6. Jeff Kent
7. Morgan Ensberg
8. Joe Mauer
9. Felix Hernandez
10. Derek Jeter
11. Ben Sheets
12. Josh Beckett

Round 5
1. Adam Dunn
2. Hideki Matsui
3. Grady Sizemore
4. Jimmy Rollins
5. Brad Lidge
6. Andy Pettitte
7. Francisco Rodriguez
8. Rich Harden
9. Bartolo Colon
10. Carlos Delgado
11. Joe Nathan
12. Richie Sexson

Round 6
1. Mark Prior
2. Brandon Webb
3. Billy Wagner
4. Jhonny Peralta
5. Marcus Giles
6. B.J. Ryan
7. Johnny Damon
8. Carlos Lee
9. Chipper Jones
10. Paul Konerko
11. Jorge Cantu
12. Felipe Lopez

Round 7
1. Chad Cordero
2. Rafael Furcal
3. Barry Zito
4. Barry "Baroid" Bonds
5. Ryan Howard
6. Eric Gagne
7. Pat Burrell
8. Juan Pierre
9. Randy Winn
10. Scott Rolen
11. Jason Schmidt
12. Huston Street

Round 8
1. Rickie Weeks
2. Brian Giles
3. Tim Hudson
4. Armando Benitez
5. Jason Giambi
6. Jim Thome
7. Scott Podsednik
8. Hank Blalock
9. Matt Holliday
10. Melvin Mora
11. Brett Myers
12. Cliff Floyd

Round 9
1. John Lackey
2. Ken Griffey Jr
3. Trevor Hoffman
4. Troy Glaus
5. Curt Schilling
6. John Smoltz
7. John Patterson
8. Jason Isringhausen
9. Torii Hunter
10. Coco Crisp
11. Dan Haren
12. Bobby Crosby

Round 10
1. Mark Mulder
2. Brian Roberts
3. A.J. Burnett
4. Javy Vazquez
5. Cliff Lee
6. Jim Edmonds
7. Javy Lopez
8. Freddy Garcia
9. C.C. Sabathia
10. Ivan Rodriguez
11. Jon Garland
12. Noah Lowry


Round 11
1. Chad Tracy
2. Scott Kazmir
3. Nomar Garciaparra
4. Derrick Turnbow
5. Magglio Ordonez
6. Tadahito Iguchi
7. Aubrey Huff
8. Francisco Cordero
9. Adrian Beltre
10. Jorge Posada
11. Edgar Renteria
12. Jason Kendall

Round 12
1. Jacque Jones
2. Justin Morneau
3. Keith Foulke
4. Jeff Francouer
5. Doug Davis
6. Matt Cain
7. David Eckstein
8. Eddie Guardado
9. Kenji Johjima
10. Geoff Jenkins
11. Bobby Jenks
12. Zach Duke

Round 13
1. Clint Barmes
2. Kevin Mench
3. Roger Clemens
4. Aaron Harang
5. Matt Clement
6. Benji Molina
7. Ryan Dempster
8. Brad Penny
9. Bob Wickman
10. Jason Lane
11. Jonny Gomes
12. Julio Lugo

Round 14
1. Chris Capuano
2. Robinson Cano
3. Livan Hernandez
4. Matt Morris
5. Garrett Atkins
6. J.D. Drew
7. Kevin Millwood
8. Ramon Hernandez
9. Lyle Overbay
10. Todd Jones
11. Jose Contreras
12. A.J. Pierzynski

Round 15
1. Brian Fuentes
2. Jake Westbrook
3. Ronnie Belliard
4. Tom Gordon
5. Joe Blanton
6. Shawn Green
7. Kerry Wood
8. Bill Hall
9. Josh Towers
10. Moises Alou
11. Ryan Zimmerman
12. Wily Mo Pena

Round 16
1. Mike MacDougal
2. Mike Gonzalez
3. Scot Shields
4. Pedro Feliz
5. Brad Radke
6. Jose Valverde
7. Braden Looper
8. Brad Wilkerson
9. Milton Bradley
10. Mike Mussina
11. Jeremy Bonderman
12. Oliver Perez

Round 17
1. Rocco Baldelli
2. Chris Young
3. Aaron Rowand
4. Derek Lowe
5. Chris Ray
6. Jon Lieber
7. Placido Polanco
8. Jeremy Hermida
9. Jose Vidro
10. Mark Loretta
11. Ervin Santana
12. Craig Biggio

Round 18
1. Greg Maddux
2. Prince Fielder
3. Shea Hillenbrand
4. Esteban Loaiza
5. Carlos Silva
6. Eric Bedard
7. Willie Taveras
8. Dan Johnson
9. Gustavo Chacin
10. Ryan Freel
11. Daniel Cabrera
12. Matt Murton

Round 19
1. Francisco Liriano
2. Preston Wilson
3. Garret Anderson
4. Paul Byrd
5. Kelvim Escobar
6. Mike Sweeney
7. Aaron Heilman
8. Josh Willingham
9. Raul Ibanez
10. Jorge Sosa
11. Hanley Ramirez
12. Nick Swisher

Round 20
1. Jarrod Washburn
2. Justin Verlander
3. Mike Timlin
4. Mike Piazza
5. Brady Clark
6. Jose Guillen
7. Shannon Stewart
8. Chris Reitsma
9. Joe Borowski
10. Jeff Weaver
11. Jermaine Dye
12. Khalil Greene


Round 21
1. Kyle Farnsworth
2. Sean Casey
3. Mark Ellis
4. Nick Johnson
5. Luis Gonzalez
6. Kris Benson
7. Scott Olsen
8. Mike Jacobs
9. Jeromy Burnitz
10. Orlando Cabrera
11. Chad Orvella
12. Delmon Young

Trades
1. Jockitch trades 1.2 (Pujols), 2.11 (Willis), 10.11 (Garland)
Troy Trojans trades 1.6 (Teixeira), 2.7 (Carpenter), 10.7 (Lopez)

2. Hippos trade 2.8 (Bay), 4.8 (Mauer), 7.5 (Howard)
Bearcats trade 3.11 (ARamirez), 4.2 (Berkman), 6.2 (Webb)

3. Hippos trade Blalock, 10.8 (Garcia)
Jockitch trade Furcal, 11.2 (Kazmir)

4. Name Withheld trade 16.13 (Perez), 19.1 (Liriano)
Big Raf Machine trade 17.7 (Polanco), 18.6 (Bedard)

SI

[rkmsuf]

2006 FOFC Softcore Baseball League.


Now that's a league I can get behind.

[CleBrownsfan]

Everyone who is in the league, post here as a "check in" and if you have some thoughts about the rules, go ahead. We'll debate them for the next couple of days and see what needs to be changed.

SI


Checked in - how will we determin draft order? FYI - I'll play with any rules you'all want to play with. I'm easy :cool:

[sterlingice]

Good question- how does random number generator and me rolling a d12 work? There's no nice way to verify if I did it, tho. Is there any other method that people prefer? It's a snake draft so it ends up being fair in the end, but I, like I'm sure most people, prefer some spots to others.

SI

[kingfc22]

Checking in. RNG and dice roll sounds fair enough.

[Johnny93g]

im fine with the setup and the rules, and looking forward to the draft

[sterlingice]

Heck, how about this? I'll roll the order now and post it to a file on my desktop (so it's time stamped). Then everyone in this thread can pick a number as they check in and I'll get the last one. Once everyone has picked a number, I'll post the order to my webpage.

SI

[rafini]

Checking in. Everything looks good to me.


- Big Raf Machine

[IwasHere]

In order for this to be considered a Hardcore league you would need more teams to increase the difficulty of the league.

12 teams for a league where you get both National and American league players seems a little Soft to me.

[Simms]

Name Withheld checking in. Rules are fine. Ready when you are.

[CleBrownsfan]

Heck, how about this? I'll roll the order now and post it to a file on my desktop (so it's time stamped). Then everyone in this thread can pick a number as they check in and I'll get the last one. Once everyone has picked a number, I'll post the order to my webpage.

SI

That will be okay with me - As long as I don't have the number 1 pick ;)

[sterlingice]

Want to pick a number as you guys check in?

SI

[Bearcat729]

Bearcats are checking in

I'll take the number 6.

[SnDvls]

if you PM the names list I'll random order them if it helps.

[Simms]

#9

[sterlingice]

if you PM the names list I'll random order them if it helps.I figure I'll just let everyone pick a number. Since they're ordered on the page, that's the order the teams will be in (i.e. if number 6 is the number on line 1 then Bearcats goes first).

SI

[rafini]

#7

[kingfc22]

Give me #3

[lighthousekeeper]

defending fofc2 yahoo baseball champ BigMac'sSpecialSauce checking in --> #5

fear my cornrows: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/Axl06.jpg

[BillyNYC]

Checking in (uh, team Butch Wynegar 4 HOF, for now).

I'll take whatever lowest number is left. Uh...1? If not, then 2? :P

[Sublime 2]

#8
Fat Bastardo's checkin in

[sterlingice]

Ok, numbers in the top post so everyone knows what is left. Only 4 to go.

Any rules chatter? Thoughts?

SI

[CleBrownsfan]

Booo - what is this choosing numbers crap? I guess I'll take the 10th spot... I thought sterlingice was going to come up with a fair way to determine the draft order. Oh well... no biggie.

[sterlingice]

Booo - what is this choosing numbers crap? I guess I'll take the 10th spot... I thought sterlingice was going to come up with a fair way to determine the draft order. Oh well... no biggie.That is what is happening- it is random, tho I guess I didn't explain it very well. I have a list of numbers 1-12 in random order that I rolled up yesterday afternoon and whereever your number is, that's where you pick (so, if the #10 was first, you'll pick first, if it's last, you pick last, and anywhere between, well, you get the idea).

SI

[CleBrownsfan]

That is what is happening- it is random, tho I guess I didn't explain it very well. I have a list of numbers 1-12 in random order that I rolled up yesterday afternoon and whereever your number is, that's where you pick (so, if the #10 was first, you'll pick first, if it's last, you pick last, and anywhere between, well, you get the idea).

SI


Ooooooh - okay... I'm a little slow this morning :rolleyes:

[Johnny93g]

ill take 12

[sterlingice]

Ooooooh - okay... I'm a little slow this morning :rolleyes:Don't worry, I'm a little slow every morning ;)

SI

[Ramzavail]

bah the league is full, i wanted in this biznatch.

[lighthousekeeper]

bah the league is full, i wanted in this biznatch.

I'm selling my spot for $10. :)

[sterlingice]

bah the league is full, i wanted in this biznatch.Well, still waiting on two teams to check in:
Troy Trojans
It's All Over

Check in by Saturday so we can get things sorted out and ready to go by Monday. If they haven't checked in by, let's say 6pm CT Saturday, we have an opening or two.

SI

[sterlingice]

Bump...

SI

[Ramzavail]

Well, still waiting on two teams to check in:
Troy Trojans
It's All Over

Check in by Saturday so we can get things sorted out and ready to go by Monday. If they haven't checked in by, let's say 6pm CT Saturday, we have an opening or two.

SI

PM me saturday night then, ill be all over this like Anna Benson on Peter Angelos

[vtbub]

Ditto

[MizzouRah]

Missed this, I'll take #4.

Troy Trojans

[sterlingice]

Ok, if the other team doesn't check in, he gets booted and I'll PM Ramzavail. If anyone else decides they want to drop out or if he doesn't PM back by Sunday night, the spot is bub's.

Keep in mind- you have to pretty much check the draft at least twice a day and these usually take 3-4 weeks. If you're not willing to do that, please get out now- we don't need a bunch of people who will be "Oh, that guy, we're waiting on him again".

Also, I don't suppose everyone has some form of IM so we can keep in touch quicker?

SI

[MizzouRah]

Ok, if the other team doesn't check in, he gets booted and I'll PM Ramzavail. If anyone else decides they want to drop out or if he doesn't PM back by Sunday night, the spot is bub's.

Keep in mind- you have to pretty much check the draft at least twice a day and these usually take 3-4 weeks. If you're not willing to do that, please get out now- we don't need a bunch of people who will be "Oh, that guy, we're waiting on him again".

Also, I don't suppose everyone has some form of IM so we can keep in touch quicker?

SI
AOL IM (Mizzourah71)

[Ramzavail]

Ok, if the other team doesn't check in, he gets booted and I'll PM Ramzavail. If anyone else decides they want to drop out or if he doesn't PM back by Sunday night, the spot is bub's.

Keep in mind- you have to pretty much check the draft at least twice a day and these usually take 3-4 weeks. If you're not willing to do that, please get out now- we don't need a bunch of people who will be "Oh, that guy, we're waiting on him again".

Also, I don't suppose everyone has some form of IM so we can keep in touch quicker?

SI

IM - Ramzavail, on mostly at work - which is when I will do most of the draft since I'm always at work.

waiting for PM.

[BillyNYC]

AOLIM: Billynyccu

I'm around early AM and evenings; can check email during lunch if need be most days.

[sterlingice]

IM - Ramzavail, on mostly at work - which is when I will do most of the draft since I'm always at work.

waiting for PM.Still about 30 minutes left- I won't be watching the clock too closely but I'll try to get one to you in the next hour after that, provided I don't hear anything.

Also, you get to decide 2 or 11 for your number, provided you get a slot. Then I'll get the last one and post the draft order.

SI

[Ramzavail]

I'm in, Jockitch. Thanks.

I'll take #2.

[sterlingice]

I renamed to the Lawrence Lumber- used that last year and had a nice ring to it. Plus, I have a Houston team in each league so I didn't want to have any confusion. I guess that gives me #11.

SI

[sterlingice]

Here's the draft order:

9
2
10
5
11
4
7
1
3
8
6
12

It's been posted to:
http://www.sunflower.com/~sterlingice/draft.txt (http://www.sunflower.com/%7Esterlingice/draft.txt)
And somehow has a 2/19 date stamp despite my computer only being 2/18 today and it being rolled up a couple of days ago... http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/confused.gif

Ok, anyways, so that means the draft order is as follows- remember, it's a snake draft for fairness (the number after was the number picked):
1. Name Withheld 9
2. Jockitch 2
3. Dog Pound 10
4. BigMac'sSpecialSauce 5
5. Lawrence Lumber 11
6. Troy Trojans 4
7. Big Raf Machine 7
8. Butch Wynegar 4 HOF 1
9. Fremont Firebirds 3
10. Fat Bastardo's 8
11. Bearcats 6
12. Johnny93g's Jays 12

I'm heading off to go eat but start thinking about your draft picks. The draft starts Monday at 12:01am.

Any last minute rule changes or people who want to drop out?

SI

[Simms]

Crap.

[sterlingice]

I dunno, I like picking at 1. I prefer 12 and 11 most but after that, I prefer 1. I like having the double picks. Easier to plan for in my mind.

SI

[sterlingice]

Ok, whipped up a little spreadsheet where all I have to do is enter a player and position and everything else automatically updates. I'll try to update as fast as I can during the draft. BTW, if a player has more than one position, I'll just put the one he "best" fits at- it's not as if he is limited to just the one position but I didn't want to do the extra work on the spreadsheet to allow for multiple positions.

The link is in the top post.

Again, any last minute thoughts on the rules? Should we go RF, CF, LF rather than 3 OF? Change the stat categories? Put squirrels in the pants of the 12th place finisher?

SI

[Ramzavail]

RF,CF,LF is hardcore, I like that.


Edit: How about a cap on waiver moves? It's more difficult to worry about a cap then it is to make daily transactions every day.

[MizzouRah]

Personally, I just like 3 OF's.

I prefer pick #12 myself or #1, but middle of the pack should be interesting.

[Simms]

Separate OFs is hardcore, yes, but there is a very uneven distribution of talent across the three positions, and injuries can fuck you hard. From experience, I *hate* LF/CF/RF and would much prefer to go with 3 OFs. But I'm in no matter what, so if mine is the minority opinion, so be it.

[sterlingice]

Separate OFs is hardcore, yes, but there is a very uneven distribution of talent across the three positions, and injuries can fuck you hard. From experience, I *hate* LF/CF/RF and would much prefer to go with 3 OFs. But I'm in no matter what, so if mine is the minority opinion, so be it.Well, I kindof like that aspect of it. It keeps people from just sitting back and grabbing super OFs in the 3rd, 4th, 5th round after all the talent from other positions is off the table because of a dearth of talent. Basically, gives some positional scarcity to the outfield, too (particularly CF), so the first two rounds aren't just elite pitchers and positional scarcity guys.

That said, so far there have only been a couple of people to chime in. I'd be curious to see what others think before making any rule change.

SI

[kingfc22]

If we want hardcore, then I say we go with LF/CF/RF

[Sublime 2]

I have no preference on the OF ruling, either way is fine. The challenge of the LF/CF/RF is appealing but at the same time stressful (injuries and such).

edit: JProElement on AIM

[rafini]

I have no preference on the OF ruling, either way is fine. The challenge of the LF/CF/RF is appealing but at the same time stressful (injuries and such).

Ditto for me.

[sterlingice]

Billay said in hattie chat that he was in favor of OF versus LF/CF/RF. Since there are only a couple of us who want the change, I'll just leave it as is. So that finalizes the rules barring some freakish thing that we unanimously decide to change.

Make sure you familiarize yourself with them. Keep in mind the categories (R, HR, RBI, SB, FPCT, AVG, OBP, SLG, W, L, SV, K, ERA, WHIP, K/BB, K/9)- I think they're a pretty solid set both traditional and sabermetric. Maybe one or two too many rate stats for the pitchers and not enough counting stats, but that's balanced by the fact that you *must* have 40 IP per week or else you take a loss in all 8 categories so you need depth on your pitching staff and not just a couple of aces. Those are the only two "weird" things, I think. If you've done a football league with me- it's not like that where I run a 40/15/10 yardage split, 2 QBs, and a couple of other things to try and even positions out.

People have started posting their IM info on the message board in the league. It'd be good if everyone can do it there (bots can't harvest it since it requires login in the league to view). If you're up, expect to get an IM from me. It'll just be some reminder like "your pick is up"- I'm not trying to badger people but sometimes in a draft like this, you just forget to check.

A last couple of things before the draft:
* Draft picks go in this thread.
* There is no trading of picks but you can trade players picked, of course. So, if you want to give up 1.1 and 2.12 for 1.12 and 2.1, you just trade those players who were picked but you have to wait until we finish the draft.
* The clock for the first pick officially starts at 12:01am CT Monday morning. However, if Simms (and anyone else, in order) wants to make their picks, they're free to. However, any pick made before 12:01am will count as a pick made at 12:01 for the purposes of having a late pick. So, if Simms picks at 9:35pm CT and Ramzavail picks at 9:40pm CT but CleBrownsFan doesn't realize we've started early, he still has until 12:01am Tuesday before the list picks for him. This, of course, only counts for the first day- we're just assuming any early picks are at "12:01" so no one gets screwed by us starting early. So, in short, you can start early but we aren't going to penalize anyone for it.

SI

[MizzouRah]

The first pick is always interesting and this will be no different. Do you go with a probable 20 game winner? or go with an everyday guy who hits for power and average?

[Simms]

I will try and make my pick tonight, but as I'm still waffling, and I have what seems like a dozen things I gotta get done before I pass out, it may not be until morning.

[Toddzilla]

Holy crap - with THREE categories dedicated to Strikeouts, your strategy becomes pretty obvious. In general you NEVER take a pitcher in the first round of a draft unless there is one dominant pitcher head and shoulders above the rest, but this changes things. I'll be watching....

[CleBrownsfan]

I just D/L'd my AOL IM @ work... the name is: NFL2k5Commish

[Ramzavail]

tick tick tick bump

[CleBrownsfan]

Come on - we all know who the #1 pick is going to be ;)

[Johnny93g]

Come on - we all know who the #1 pick is going to be ;)

And i hope that guy drops tell 12 :cool:

[Simms]

With 1(1), Name Withheld selects 3B Alex Rodriguez.

Apologies for the delay.

[CleBrownsfan]

With 1(1), Name Withheld selects 3B Alex Rodriguez.

Apologies for the delay.


Shocker :p

[Ramzavail]

First trade of the season.

Jockitch trades 1.2, 2.11, 10.11
Troy Trojans trades 1.6, 2.7, 10.7

Jockitch selects Albert Pujols for Troy Trojans.

[MizzouRah]

confirmed

With 2(1) Jockitch selects 1B Albert Pujols (pick goes to Troy Trojans)

[CleBrownsfan]

1 (3) 3rd pick overall Manny Ramirez

[lighthousekeeper]

bigmacsspecialsauce picks Vlad Guerrero

[sterlingice]

Holy crap - with THREE categories dedicated to Strikeouts, your strategy becomes pretty obvious. In general you NEVER take a pitcher in the first round of a draft unless there is one dominant pitcher head and shoulders above the rest, but this changes things. I'll be watching....These are the things people are supposed to point out *before* the draft, that way we can change them up a little but we're pretty much stuck with them now :p

SI

[sterlingice]

Well, he helped me a lot (and drove me nuts earlier in the season) in one of my leagues last year and with that note about the strikeouts, how can I pass up Johan Santana with the 5th pick for the Lawrence Lumber.

I'll get the 2nd post and draft sheet updated and posted shortly.

SI

[Ramzavail]

Does anybody want to trade up to 6? I am looking at the 8,9,10 spot to trade down to. Any takers?

[sterlingice]

Does anybody want to trade up to 6? I am looking at the 8,9,10 spot to trade down to. Any takers?Ok, this was part of the reason for avoiding trades- we've gotten to a pick and now everyone has to wait for a trade rather than picking and moving along. So I guess we do kindof allow trades as there was one earlier in the day despite the "no trades allowed" unless there are objections.

So, here's the deal: if you post about waiting for a trade, you have an hour to complete the trade. You still have your full time to pick (24 hours) but if you're around and posting for a trade, you should be looking for what player to pick not "holding the draft hostage" until you get a deal. You can still always trade players after the draft.

SI

[Ramzavail]

Yes, I don't mean to bog down the draft but nobodys on IM!!!!!! :)

But I won't wait more than an hour.

[sterlingice]

Ok, I put everyone's contact info in the commish's note over in the league so it's in one nice place. Anyone having anything to add to it- just put it over on the Yahoo message boards and I'll add it.

SI

[Ramzavail]

Unable to move down.

Jockitch relunctantly selects 1(6) Mark Teixeira 1b

[sterlingice]

Pretty good speed on the first half of the first round. The second post has been updated and the spreadsheet has been updated and uploaded

SI

[rafini]

With the seventh pick of the first round, Big Raf Machine selects David Wright, 3B

[MizzouRah]

I didn't see the "no trades are allowed", I saw this:

There is no trading of picks but you can trade players picked, of course. So, if you want to give up 1.1 and 2.12 for 1.12 and 2.1, you just trade those players who were picked but you have to wait until we finish the draft.

Which is why I said Ramzavail picked Pujols and put the player was going to me after the draft is over.

Ramzavail should have put Troy Trojans select 1(6) Mark Teixeira 1b (goes to Jockitch)

That way there is no confusion. I just wanted to post the total trade so everyone would see what we did when the players move teams later on.

I think as long as your within your time to pick, you should seek a trade if you want to. Trades will only be for the beginning of the draft, I would assume to get the one player you really want.

[BillyNYC]

Currently living a mile away from Wrigley, I guess I (Butch Wynegar 4 HOF) have to take

1 (8): Derrek Lee (1B)

[Buccaneer]

Some of you are assuming that certain players will duplicate a career year.

[rafini]

Some of you are assuming that certain players will duplicate a career year.

The only player taken so far with any question of whether he can match or better last year's numbers is Lee, and he's beens solid the last six years.

[sterlingice]

I think as long as your within your time to pick, you should seek a trade if you want to. Trades will only be for the beginning of the draft, I would assume to get the one player you really want.I dunno, I've sat through a draft back when Sandbox has slow, live drafts and the commish allowed trades via email. Well, there was this one guy who was never happy with his pick so he was always trying to trade down when his time came, making everyone else wait the 23 hours before he picked because "someone might want to trade". We got started almost a week into the season because of that.

That's why the choice is basically "a short time limit" or we'll just go back to "not at all" for trades. Of course, I can't know if you're being smart and make a trade and leave no fingerprints until after the draft. However, we do only have about a month to do this draft so we have to get through about a round a day because there are sometimes people who have to go away or just completely miss their pick so 24 hours elapses with 0 picks, much less rounds. We'll just never finish if even one person is constantly holding everyone else up.

The idea is that if you want to work a deal, do it before your pick. If it's your pick and you can pick but choose not to, it's just not fair to everyone else.

SI

[sterlingice]

Bump for the Fremont Firebirds who are on the clock.

SI

[kingfc22]

Bump for the Fremont Firebirds who are on the clock.

SI
Sorry guys. My internet connection has been down all night.:mad:

[kingfc22]

Going to go with David Ortiz (1B)

[MizzouRah]

I dunno, I've sat through a draft back when Sandbox has slow, live drafts and the commish allowed trades via email. Well, there was this one guy who was never happy with his pick so he was always trying to trade down when his time came, making everyone else wait the 23 hours before he picked because "someone might want to trade". We got started almost a week into the season because of that.

That's why the choice is basically "a short time limit" or we'll just go back to "not at all" for trades. Of course, I can't know if you're being smart and make a trade and leave no fingerprints until after the draft. However, we do only have about a month to do this draft so we have to get through about a round a day because there are sometimes people who have to go away or just completely miss their pick so 24 hours elapses with 0 picks, much less rounds. We'll just never finish if even one person is constantly holding everyone else up.

The idea is that if you want to work a deal, do it before your pick. If it's your pick and you can pick but choose not to, it's just not fair to everyone else.

SI
I hope we have better people in this league, but hey it's your show. :)

I just made sure nobody wondered why Ramzavail traded away Pujols.

[Ramzavail]

Well I wanted to trade down to get David Wright, considering I thought he was a 9-10th overall pick, thank god I didn't, he went #7 (and I didn't think he was a #6 or #7 pick).

[Sublime 2]

Sorry guys just got out of class....

The Fat Bastards select
1(10) Miguel Tejada

[Bearcat729]

At 1(11) The Bearcats select 3B/OF Miguel Cabrera

[sterlingice]

After back-to-back Miguels, we have back-to-back picks by Johnny93g

SI

[Johnny93g]

Johnny93g's Jays select

1(12) SP Roy Halladay, Tor

Easy selection. I dont have another pick until the end of round 3, had to get an ace, and Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball imo

2(1) LF/CF Carl Crawford, TB

He's an all around contributor, who continues to improve each season. I'm hoping he could be the steal of the draft

[sterlingice]

Webpage has been updated with picks through 2.1. Post 2, with the draft board, is updated as soon as I get a chance but the spreadsheet I'm doing about twice a round.

SI

[Bearcat729]

Alright I need a pitcher and with the 2nd pick in the 2nd round The Bearcats select SP Jake Peavy

[Sublime 2]

To complete my middle infield the Fat Bastards select:
2(3) Alfonso Soriano

[kingfc22]

Going to get my ace now:

Roy Oswalt (SP)

[BillyNYC]

I'll take Bobby Abreu (OF).

[rafini]

With pick 2.6, Big Raf Machine selects Michael Young, SS

[sterlingice]

If anyone's interested, I'm looking to trade down into 3.10/4.3 or 3.11/4.2 or 3.12/4.1. I'll offer up 2.8 and 4.8 with a later pick upgrade coming back this way or 2.8 and 5.5 and a pick upgrade going the other way.

SI

[sterlingice]

If anyone's interested, I'm looking to trade down into 3.10/4.3 or 3.11/4.2 or 3.12/4.1. I'll offer up 2.8 and 4.8 with a later pick upgrade coming back this way or 2.8 and 5.5 and a pick upgrade going the other way.

SIHippos and Bearcats have reached a trade:
Hippos send 2.8/4.8/7.5
Bearcats send 3.11/4.2/6.2

SI

[sterlingice]

Ok, spreadsheet has been updated to include both trades as well as through the current picks.

SI

[Ramzavail]

Troy Trojans select 2(7) Chris Carpenter SP (goes to Jockitch)

[MizzouRah]

Troy Trojans select 2(7) Chris Carpenter SP (goes to Jockitch)
I keel you!!

[CleBrownsfan]

I keel you!!

I know - I was hoping he was going to drop to me with my second pick in the third round...

[Bearcat729]

At 2(8) the Lawrence Lumber select OF Jason Bay who is traded to the Bearcats

[Ramzavail]

I know - I was hoping he was going to drop to me with my second pick in the third round...

I can't believe he was picked after Halladay and Peavy actually.

[lighthousekeeper]

2(9) - Chase Utley

[CleBrownsfan]

2 (10) - Pedro Martinez

[MizzouRah]

2.11 Jockitch selects SP Dontrelle Willis pick goes to Troy Trojans

[Simms]

With 2(12), Name Withheld selects SP Carlos Zambrano

With 3(1), Name Withheld selects OF Andruw Jones

[sterlingice]

Spreadsheet is updated

SI

[Ramzavail]

3.2 JI selects Jose Reyes SS - New York Mets

[CleBrownsfan]

I know I'm picking him kind of high but he is my favorite player and I don't think he'll be there for my next pick.

3.3 1B/DH Travis Hafner

[lighthousekeeper]

3.4: Randy 'pock-mark' Johnson

And now I'll begin praying to the God of Run Support.

[sterlingice]

3.5 Houston Hippopotami pick 1B Todd Helton

SI

[sterlingice]

Web page and post 2 have been updated, btw.

SI

[MizzouRah]

3.6 Troy Trojans select OF Gary Sheffield

[lighthousekeeper]

please-don't-pick-chan-ho-park-please-don't-pick-chan-ho-park-please-don't-pick-chan-ho-park-please-don't-pick-chan-ho-park

[rafini]

With pick 3.7 Big Raf Machine selects Victor Martinez, C

[Johnny93g]

With pick 3.7 Big Raf Machine selects Victor Martinez, C

DAMNIT

[rafini]

DAMNIT

I was that close to taking Chan Ho Park. I don't know, it was like a voice from above was telling me that he'd be my ace.

[sterlingice]

I was that close to taking Chan Ho Park. I don't know, it was like a voice from above was telling me that he'd be my ace.HFP? ;)

That reminds me. Time to bump the last "Chan Ho Park Blows" thread so someone makes a new one.

SI

[Johnny93g]

I was that close to taking Chan Ho Park. I don't know, it was like a voice from above was telling me that he'd be my ace.

That sounds more like a voice from below. I knew i had to be lucky for Martinez to fall to the end of round 3, but a bunch of players kept getting picked who i wouldnt even consider.....DAMNIT

[Johnny93g]

I will be out all night, so if my picks come up, ill make them after 9 tommorow morning

[sterlingice]

I will be out all night, so if my picks come up, ill make them after 9 tommorow morningNot saying you have to do this, but there are the options of a list or proxy.

SI

[Johnny93g]

Not saying you have to do this, but there are the options of a list or proxy.

SI

I know, but i have a hard time choosing before hand, i kinda change my mind alot. I'll just check in before i hit the sack tonight

[sterlingice]

I know, but i have a hard time choosing before hand, i kinda change my mind alot. I'll just check in before i hit the sack tonightYeah, I know how that goes. It was just a shameless reminder that the option was open should anyone have forgotten about it.

SI

[BillyNYC]

Boo for 12 hour work days. I'll make my pick within the hour.

[kingfc22]

Boo for 12 hour work days. I'll make my pick within the hour.Just don't pick the guy I want.http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/wink.gif

[lighthousekeeper]

Boo for 12 hour work days. I'll make my pick within the hour.

When choosing, a man should pick right from his heart, you know?

[Sublime 2]

When choosing, a man should pick right from his heart, you know?


hahaha...i just needed to read the first two bolded letters!!

[lighthousekeeper]

I have no idea what you're talking about...

[BillyNYC]

I'll take Ichiro (OF)

[kingfc22]

(2B/OF) Chone Figgins

[Sublime 2]

Suppose I need some pitching....
Fat Bastards Select
3(10) Mark Buehrle SP

[sterlingice]

For 3.11 the Bearcats select 3B Aramis Ramirez and trade him to the Lawrence Lumber, to help justify their name a little.

SI

[sterlingice]

Webpage is updated through 3.10. Top post is updated through 3.11

SI

[Johnny93g]

Johnny93g's Jays select

3.12 Vernon Wells, OF, Tor

4.1 Eric Chavez, 3B, Oak

Im counting on both to have comeback years, even though neither put up bad number's last season, they are capable of better.

[sterlingice]

Well, I'm hoping to add some more lumber with 2nd half monster Lance Berkman. After recovering from injury in the 1st half of the season, he had 18 homers and .994 OPS in the 2nd half so he looked like his usual self.

So, at 4.2, the Bearcats select 1B/OF Lance Berkman and trade him to the Lawrence Lumber.

SI

[sterlingice]

Post 2 and the spreadsheet are updated thru 4.2

SI

[MizzouRah]

Suppose I need some pitching....
Fat Bastards Select
3(10) Mark Buehrle SP
Good pick!

[Sublime 2]

I know he didn't have quite the year last year people hoped for, but I'm still a little surprised this guy is around.

Fat Bastards select
4(3) Carlos Beltran OF

[kingfc22]

I know he didn't have quite the year last year people hoped for, but I'm still a little surprised this guy is around.

Fat Bastards select
4(3) Carlos Beltran OF
Arggghhh. Was hoping he would fall. Nice pick.

[kingfc22]

4.4 Jason Varitek (C)

[BillyNYC]

I'll take Mariano Rivera (RP)

[rafini]

With pick 4.6 Big Raf Machine selects Jeff Kent, 2B

[sterlingice]

Post 2 and spreadsheet are updated.

SI

[MizzouRah]

4.7 Troy Trojans select 3B Morgan Ensberg

This one's for you Jeebs!

[Bearcat729]

At 4(8) the Lawrence Lumber select C Joe Mauer who is traded to The Bearcats

[lighthousekeeper]

4.9: SP Felix Hernandez

[Sublime 2]

4.9: SP Felix Hernandez

Damn...was hoping he'd last a little longer!

[CleBrownsfan]

4.10 - SS Derek Jeter

[Ramzavail]

4.11 Ben Sheets SP

[sterlingice]

We're moving at a pretty good clip today. The webpage has been updated as has post 2.

Simms is weighing his options so I'm guessing he'll pick fairly soon (you know, after having time to think and do some looking up). Hopefully, if you're after him, you're doing your homework on the next few picks so we can keep up a nice pace.

SI

[Simms]

Name Withheld selects:

4(12) SP Josh Beckett

5(1) 1B/OF Adam Dunn

[kingfc22]

4.9: SP Felix Hernandezhttp://www.operationsports.com/fofc/images/smilies/frown.gif

[sterlingice]

I dunno. I think it's still a year or two too early for him. I sense some regression just on the grounds that no one is going to be able to project out those numbers from his last season over an entire second season as the book starts to get written about him.

SI

[Ramzavail]

5.2 - Hideki Matsui OF

[Poli]

4.7 Troy Trojans select 3B Morgan Ensberg

This one's for you Jeebs!Traitor.

[Poli]

I haven't been paying attention, as I'm not in this league, but you drafted ENSBERG AHEAD OF ROLEN??


* I have no clue what the fantasy ratings of either ballplayer is, nor do I really care. The fact remains that Todd should have drafted a Cardinal instead of an Astro, thankyouverymuch.

[MizzouRah]

I haven't been paying attention, as I'm not in this league, but you drafted ENSBERG AHEAD OF ROLEN??


* I have no clue what the fantasy ratings of either ballplayer is, nor do I really care. The fact remains that Todd should have drafted a Cardinal instead of an Astro, thankyouverymuch.
Are you kidding me? :D Rolen who? Is he our 3rd baseman? Too risky of a pick as he's injured all the time.

[Poli]

It's about time you woke up, slacker. :)

[MizzouRah]

It's about time you woke up, slacker. :)
Ok, my in-laws are here, I can't sleep. :redface:

[CleBrownsfan]

5.3 - OF Grady Sizemore

[lighthousekeeper]

5.4 - "Jimmy the Streak" Rollins

[sterlingice]

5.5: Lawrence Lumber select RP Brad Lidge to anchor their bullpen after not finding anyone else to their liking at the moment

SI

[MizzouRah]

5.6 Troy Trojans select SP Andy Pettitte

[sterlingice]

Webpage and post 2 have been updated again.

SI

[rafini]

With pick 5.7 Big Raf Machine selects Francisco Rodriguez, RP


I was trying to choose between Rodriguez and Lidge, so I guess my choice was made for me.

[BillyNYC]

5 (8): Rich Harden, P

[sterlingice]

Bump as we've got 5 people online right now, including the 5.10, 5.11, 6.2, and 6.3 so if any of the others are online, I think we could get through a couple of picks fairly soon.

SI

[kingfc22]

5.9 SP Bartolo Colon

[sterlingice]

BTW, I updated the webpage through 5.8.

SI

[Sublime 2]

The Fat Bastards select
5(10) 1B Carlos Delgado

[Bearcat729]

At 5(11) The Bearcats select CL Joe Nathan

[Johnny93g]

Johnny93g's Jays Select:

5.12 1B Richie Sexson, Sea

6.1 SP Mark Prior, Chi

[sterlingice]

Man, this is the second time I've had someone stolen right before a pick, so, with that little change in mind, I'll go with maybe a tad of a reach but I don't want him on someone else's team (ie one of those who I'm almost certain will outperform his draft position) and go with:

6.2 SP Brandon Webb, picked by Bearcats and traded to Lawrence Lumber

SI

[Sublime 2]

Figure with a little wait before my next pick, I'll snag my fireman now...

Fat Bastards select:
6(3) CL Billy Wagner

[MizzouRah]

Figure with a little wait before my next pick, I'll snag my fireman now...

Fat Bastards select:
6(3) CL Billy Wagner
You bastard, or fat bastard!!

[kingfc22]

6.4 SS Johnny Peralta

[BillyNYC]

I'll take Marcus Giles (2B)

[rafini]

With pick 6.6 Big Raf Machine selects B.J. Ryan, RP

[MizzouRah]

6.7 Troy Trojans select OF Johnny Damon

[sterlingice]

Ugh, was torn between two guys, a pitcher and a hitter. Decided, ultimately, after much back and forth, to go with the hitter:
6.8 Lawrence Lumber Carlos Lee, OF

SI

[sterlingice]

Post 2 and the spreadsheet are updated.

SI

[lighthousekeeper]

We select: 3B-Chipper Jones

[Sublime 2]

We select: 3B-Chipper Jones

ARGH....kind of hoping he'd slide to me to be my 3rd baseman!

[CleBrownsfan]

I already have a 1B but I can't see passing this guy up. Thank you for the UT position!

6.10 - 1B Paul Konerko

[Ramzavail]

6.11 JI selects Jorge Cantu 2b,3b

[Simms]

Name Withheld selects:

6(12) SS/2B Felipe Lopez

7(1) CL Chad Cordero

[Ramzavail]

since Simms took my closer, I am going to make it interesting.

7.2 JI selects Rafael Furcal SS

If anybody wants to trade for him, since I have Reyes, let me know.

I'd take a 7th rounder and swap later round picks.

[CleBrownsfan]

7.3 - SP Barry Zito

[sterlingice]

Webpage and post #2 updated

SI

[Sublime 2]

7.3 - SP Barry Zito

Damn again!!

[lighthousekeeper]

fuckit - someone has to do it:

BigMacsSpecialSauce picks Baroid Bonds (OF)

[kingfc22]

fuckit - someone has to do it:

BigMacsSpecialSauce picks Baroid Bonds (OF)
NOOOOO.

[Bearcat729]

Alright I was going to take Zito or Bonds with this pick had they fell to me, but since they didn't i'll continue on my path of selecting young players with a lot of potential


at 7(5) The Lawrence Lumber select 1B Ryan Howard who is traded to the Bearcats

[rafini]

at 7(5) The Lawrence Lumber select 1B Ryan Howard who is traded to the Bearcats


Ugghhh, two more picks is all he had to fall.

[sterlingice]

Webpage is updated as is post 2

The Hippos/Bearcats trade is also complete. Trojans are up

SI

[MizzouRah]

7.6 Troy Trojans select RP Eric Gagne

[rafini]

With pick 7.7 Big Raf Machine selects Pat Burrell, OF

[Johnny93g]

7.6 Troy Trojans select RP Eric Gagne

:mad:

[MizzouRah]

:mad:
You know I thought about Izzy.. but I'm hoping Eric returns to form this year.

[BillyNYC]

7.8 Juan Pierre (OF)

[kingfc22]

7.9 Randy Winn (OF)

[Sublime 2]

Torn between two guys, here's hoping Rolen has recovered from that injury! To complete their infield...

The Fastards select:
7(10) 3B Scott Rolen

[Bearcat729]

Time for another pitcher

At 7(11) the Bearcats select SP Jason Schmidt

[sterlingice]

Webpage (http://www.sunflower.com/%7Esterlingice/fofcdraft.htm) and post 2 have been updated through 7.11

SI

[Johnny93g]

Johnny93g's Jays select

7.12 RP Hudson Street, Oak

8.1 2B Rickie Weeks, Mil

[Bearcat729]

Alright at 8(2) The Bearcats select OF Brian Giles

[Sublime 2]

8(3) SP Tim Hudson

[Sublime 2]

Johnny93g's Jays select

7.12 RP Hudson Street, Oak

8.1 2B Rickie Weeks, Mil

It is Houston Street right? Or is it my east coast bias that's been causing me to screw up his name for like 3 months?

Edit:

Aparently we were both wrong....Huston Street.

[CleBrownsfan]

It is Houston Street right? Or is it my east coast bias that's been causing me to screw up his name for like 3 months?

HUSTON we have a problem...

[Johnny93g]

It is Houston Street right? Or is it my east coast bias that's been causing me to screw up his name for like 3 months?

Edit:

Aparently we were both wrong....Huston Street.

LOL.....i want whichever street closes for the A's!!!! ;)

[kingfc22]

8.4 Armando Benitez (RP)

[Poli]

SI, which thread am I supposed to post in?

[sterlingice]

SI, which thread am I supposed to post in?EDIT: Whoops, the other one but this counts anyway. :D

SI

[Poli]

This one :)

SIWhere's my Easy Button?

[sterlingice]

Where's my Easy Button?See edit above- it's in this thread (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=47180) specifically, right here (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=1070431&postcount=42). You're in.

SI

[BillyNYC]

8.5 Jason Giambi (1B)

[sterlingice]

Webpage (http://www.sunflower.com/%7Esterlingice/fofcdraft.htm) and post 2 have been updated through 8.5

SI

[rafini]

With pick 8.6 Big Raf Machines selects Jim Thome, 1B

[MizzouRah]

8.7 Troy Trojans select OF Scott Podsednik

[sterlingice]

8.8 The Lawrence Lumber select 3B Hank Blalock

I already have a 3B but just couldn't pass him up.

SI

[lighthousekeeper]

BigMac'sSpecialSauce takes:
8.9: Matt Holliday (OF)

[Ramzavail]

Does anybody have a spreadsheet of who is left and what their yahoo rankings are?

Also - anybody want Furcal? PM me.

[sterlingice]

Hm... i never bothered to do Yahoo rankings because they aren't printable. :(

SI

[Ramzavail]

any spreadsheet, its difficult to scan through the yahoo site and try to figure out who is left....b/c the players aren't be plucked off the free agent list yet and placed onto teams. I'm not complaining, I was just wondering if somebody had a better way.

[kingfc22]

8.8 The Lawrence Lumber select 3B Hank Blalock

I already have a 3B but just couldn't pass him up.

SI
BOOOO!! He was my next pick.

[sterlingice]

any spreadsheet, its difficult to scan through the yahoo site and try to figure out who is left....b/c the players aren't be plucked off the free agent list yet and placed onto teams. I'm not complaining, I was just wondering if somebody had a better way.Why not print off a list from Yahoo or TSN or Fanball or whatever to mark off as you go along?

SI

[sterlingice]

Webpage (http://www.sunflower.com/%7Esterlingice/fofcdraft.htm) and post 2 have been updated through 8.9

SI

[lighthousekeeper]

i've done a custom spreadsheet that i can share with you just as soon as the draft is over.
;)

[sterlingice]

i've done a custom spreadsheet that i can share with you just as soon as the draft is over.
;)Yeah, that's kindof where I'm at, too. Yes, I have a spreadsheet. No, I can't share it because, frankly, I did the legwork for it and it's what I'm using so I don't want to share it with someone else just so they can snatch up all my picks.

What I typically do is just print out a couple of lists and check off as I go along with those.

SI

[Ramzavail]

Hoarders.

[CleBrownsfan]

8.10 3B - Melvin Mora

[Ramzavail]

8.11 Brett Myers SP

[Simms]

8(12) - OF Cliff Floyd

9(1) - SP John Lackey

[Ramzavail]

9.2 Ken Griffey Jr. OF

[CleBrownsfan]

9.3 RP - Trevor Hoffman

[sterlingice]

8(12) - OF Cliff Floyd

9(1) - SP John LackeyYou never fail to steal my picks (Lackey) like Dunn and Zambrano before him ;)

SI

[sterlingice]

Webpage (http://www.sunflower.com/%7Esterlingice/fofcdraft.htm) and post 2 have been updated through 9.3. We are awaiting pick #100 for those keeping track at home.

SI

[Simms]

Some of you may have seen me post in the past about the Fantasy magazines put out by the company I work for (http://www.fantasysports.ca). Well, our Baseball preview was released today, and is available for free download if anybody's interested.

It's PDF, 197 pages, full-color, and download only. (We do a printed newsstand version of the hockey mag, but it's the only one big enough to warrant the additional production costs at the moment.)

At any rate, if you want a copy, you can get one here: http://magazine.forecaster.ca/baseball2006/

[Johnny93g]

Thanks Simms, i really enjoyed the Hockey Foreceasater....(wonder if i should take another look at that and see how accurate it was)....and im sure ill enjoy this one as well.

Much Appreciated

[sterlingice]

BigMac'sSpecialSauce is on the board and has less than 6 hours left

SI

[Ramzavail]

Thanks Simms, looks good.

[kingfc22]

BigMac'sSpecialSauce is on the board and has less than 6 hours left

SI
bump

[sterlingice]

A little under 2 hours to go :(

I just went and made a list of the top 200 of Yahoo using O-Rank so i can use it to see who gets autopicked if he doesn't make a pick. I'll post that in a bit, once I finish some other stuff, since Ramzavail was looking for a list of that ilk.

SI

[sterlingice]

Ok, posted a list on my page with the Yahoo list. The first column is Yahoo O-Rank (that which is used to make "cpu" picks for the draft). For example, in a little over an hour, Troy Glaus will be picked for BigMac'sSpecialSauce as he's the top player on the list not already taken. The second column (FOFC HardC) is this draft, the third (FOFC SoftC) is the draft from last night in the other FOFC league. The colors don't really mean anything- they're a "tiering" of sorts (1-30 blue, 31-60 red, 61-120 magenta), part of my larger spreadsheet where this was taken from. I'll try to keep this updated and put some info about it in the top post.

http://www.sunflower.com/~sterlingice/yahoo.htm (http://www.sunflower.com/%7Esterlingice/yahoo.htm)

SI

[Ramzavail]

great, thanks :)

[sterlingice]

While waiting for the pick, Jockitch and the Lumber have a trade to announce with surplus guys:
Jockitch send Furcal and 11.2
Lumber send Blalock and 10.8

Keep in mind, there are some odd picks next round as there are now a couple of trades involving 10 round picks so keep that in mind. Spreadsheet will be updated shortly.

SI

[Ramzavail]

Confirmed.

[sterlingice]

BigMac'sSpecialSauce (list) picks Troy Glaus at 9.4

I'll be making my pick shortly and hopefully we can get some progress tonight.

SI