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kingfc22

07-08-2005, 03:34 PM

Thats a pretty weak chance to push the vote towards me. Lets make it official. I'm sticking with my last vote.

Vote kingfc22 Is it? If I was a wolf, I'd be loving how this is playing out. All the villagers main target's are other villagers and that makes it very easy for a wolf to blend in. All the wolf/ves have to do is jump on whichever train is leaving and their is no way to tell because everyone else is doing the same thing.

Then their is Jeebs, the all-time leader in posts and yet he reamains curiously silent except for this rather odd post:

Damn, sorry Fouts. Weird how the theory worked in getting Blacky but got you lynched while innocent.

I'm all confuddled now.

Raven

07-08-2005, 03:42 PM

I hate voting this early, but I have to leave for work.

I'm still not sure about King. Like I said, he is the easy target here, maybe too easy.

But if he doesn't get lynched tonight, then I am always going to speculate about him. Also, if we don't take him out and instead hit another villager tonight, it's inevitable that King is going to be gone any day now. I'll take my chances.

Vote Kingfc

kingfc22

07-08-2005, 03:44 PM

Can't believe this is happening. Congrats wolf/ves you have this one in the bag.

Vote heybrad

henry296

07-08-2005, 03:59 PM

Quick vote update before the 5 o'clock whistle:

King 6 - RA, Neon, Schmidty, heybrad, digamma, Raven
heybrad - 1 Kingfc2

Todd

henry296

07-08-2005, 04:00 PM

Neon_Chaos

henry296

07-08-2005, 04:00 PM

forgot the word vote:

VOTE neon_chaos

Token Asian Guy

07-08-2005, 04:03 PM

ok, looking back on previous posts, i believe i may be starting to get a handle on what's going on. Fouts was not a wolf, and kingfc accused him, making kingfc a target. but isn't that a stupid play on kingfc's part if he is a wolf, to endanger himself just to get Fouts lynched? he'd be pretty brave to assume that everyone would just trust him, as evidenced by the current vote count. now, if king is a wolf, then i'd assume he'd be the head wolf, because his ability to kill another when he is killed would cancel out his death, making it ok for him to stick his neck out like he has. as for his original voting, i really believe that king voted for blackie in the beginning just because of the butt sniffing comment, and not really on any other basis, and therefore switched when he found more compelling evidence leading him elsewhere. it just so happens that blackie was a wolf, which was poor luck for king...i think. unless he really is a wolf, but i'm gonna go with my gut on this one and vote for the silent guy.

VOTE HEYBRAD

kingfc22

07-08-2005, 04:14 PM

...king is a wolf, then i'd assume he'd be the head wolf, because his ability to kill another when he is killed would cancel out his death, making it ok for him to stick his neck out like he has...
This idea would probably be okay, except for the fact that 1 wolf is already dead. Why would a second wolf sacrifice themself? Especially since as it stands right now, a villager (ME) is getting lynched tonight.

henry296

07-08-2005, 04:16 PM

unvote neon_chaos
VOTE heybrad

mrsimperless

07-08-2005, 04:28 PM

Alright, I've come to my conclusion for the day. First off here is my analysis assuming that king is NOT a wolf:

If king is not a wolf, there is a fairly short list of major suspects IMO. This list comes from the analysis I drew up of the day 1 voting patterns, since we can toss out day 2 in this scenario. (Both people voted for were villagers) This list is derived from those people who didn't vote for blackie. It would also include those that "piled on" or voted for Blackie when it didn't really matter, but I couldn't really find any people like that except MAYBE Raiders. But I didn't include him in this. Here we go...

henry - Voted for Raiders on Day 1 becasue he accused him of jumping on the Blackie bandwagon. Raiders was the second person to vote for Blackie.

raven - Had a VERY convincing argument in post #142. Probably the least suspicious on the list IMO.

neon - Post #114 is very interesting. In it he casts suspicion on heybrad, fouts, king and blacky. This is after we knew blacky was a wolf. We also know now that fouts and (in this scenario) king are villagers. This being the case it seems like he is just trying to lump innocent villagers in with a known wolf. Also, it looks like he didn't vote on day #2 which is odd.

heybrad - Named in post #114 above along with two innocents and a known wolf. If neon is a wolf it's likely heybrad isn't. I don't see anything major to point to heybrad over neon.

ntndeacon - Since suicane wasn't playing the first day we don't have much to go by. This guy is a major question mark and I don't have much of a feeling either way.

Of these five people I think neon is the most suspicious based on his activity today and post #114. As far as whether or not I believe the axis of evil is guilty or the neon posse, I'm beginning to wonder. I have digamma as the lieutenant in the axis and if we lynch king today and he's a wolf digamma gets my vote tomorrow. However, digamma has already voted for king today which puts a wrench in things. Granted, he could be trying to throw me off and can always switch later, but it just seems weird. The king vote no longer feels right and based on that:

UNVOTE kingfc22

VOTE Neon_Chaos

mrsimperless

07-08-2005, 04:29 PM

Nice. One werewolf down... how many more to go? :)

No hard feelings, JeeberD, I had to vote for someone... and jumping on the bandwagon is not my cup of tea.

Hmmm.

heybrad, Fouts, kingfc22, Blackadar all voted for Schmidty.

I would say that Fouts and heybrad are probably werewolves, but that's just going with my gut. That's my analysis for now.

Here is Neon's post #114.

digamma

07-08-2005, 04:32 PM

In looking at how a couple of people have voted, I agree the kingfc vote doesn't seem right.

UNVOTE kingfc22.

mrsimperless

07-08-2005, 04:35 PM

In looking at how a couple of people have voted, I agree the kingfc vote doesn't seem right.

UNVOTE kingfc22.

Great, now you're making me want to vote for king again! Damn you werewolves and your tomfoolery! Damn you all to hell!

kingfc22

07-08-2005, 04:38 PM

Was going over this thread a little more just now and I still think heybrad is the one to go.

My suspiciously inactive list includes: GWB, Jeebs and Raven

heybrad

07-08-2005, 04:39 PM

but i'm gonna go with my gut on this one and vote for the silent guy.

VOTE HEYBRAD
If you think I've been silent you should carefully reread ALL of my posts.

mrsimperless

07-08-2005, 04:45 PM

Was going over this thread a little more just now and I still think heybrad is the one to go.

My suspiciously inactive list includes: GWB, Jeebs and Raven

King, you are starting to make me suspect you again. You've got to give me more to go off of then that. You just named the three people I suspect here probably the least.

GWB was the 13th person to vote for blackie. Just before he did the vote count was as follows:
JeeberD – 1
Blackadar – 2
BuzzBee – 3
Schmidty – 4
Raiders – 1

Jeebs was the 14th person to vote for blackie. Just before he did the vote count was as follows:
JeeberD – 1
Blackadar – 3
BuzzBee – 3
Schmidty – 4
Raiders – 1

Both of these votes were major swings towards blacky. especially Jeebs, who changed his vote from Schmidty, the leader at the time. I agree Raven could be a suspect, but read post #142.

If you aren't the wolf you need to give us better alternatives than that. I mentioned neon and he still seems suspicious, but I'm 2.5 seconds away from switching my vote back to you now.

mrsimperless

07-08-2005, 04:47 PM

When I say 13th and 14th to vote for blackie I meant they had the 13th and 14th votes overall, respectively, and each voted for Blackie

kingfc22

07-08-2005, 04:58 PM

I can say that I haven't done an extensive voting research like you have. The only reason I mentioned those 3 is because of Jeebs post #64. People who lay low scare me because they go unnoticed.

Neon_Chaos

07-08-2005, 04:58 PM

neon - Post #114 is very interesting. In it he casts suspicion on heybrad, fouts, king and blacky. This is after we knew blacky was a wolf. We also know now that fouts and (in this scenario) king are villagers. This being the case it seems like he is just trying to lump innocent villagers in with a known wolf. Also, it looks like he didn't vote on day #2 which is odd.

heybrad - Named in post #114 above along with two innocents and a known wolf. If neon is a wolf it's likely heybrad isn't. I don't see anything major to point to heybrad over neon.

ntndeacon - Since suicane wasn't playing the first day we don't have much to go by. This guy is a major question mark and I don't have much of a feeling either way.

Of these five people I think neon is the most suspicious based on his activity today and post #114. As far as whether or not I believe the axis of evil is guilty or the neon posse, I'm beginning to wonder. I have digamma as the lieutenant in the axis and if we lynch king today and he's a wolf digamma gets my vote tomorrow. However, digamma has already voted for king today which puts a wrench in things. Granted, he could be trying to throw me off and can always switch later, but it just seems weird. The king vote no longer feels right and based on that:

UNVOTE kingfc22

VOTE Neon_Chaos

I don't vote for kingfc22, and I get suspected. I vote for kingfc22, and I get suspected even more.

Beautiful.

Oh and I wasn't able to vote because I was sleeping. (I'm on the other side of the globe). Anyway, I've been working 25 hours non-stop right now with only a computer in front of me, so I've been posting on-and-off throughout the night (day in your case) :)

I am not a werewolf. I am a villager. You vote for me, and you waste a vote that could be used to lynch one of the horrid icky hairy beasts. :)

Neon_Chaos

07-08-2005, 05:05 PM

dola

I keep forgetting to add things to my posts. And since we're not supposed to edit, I keep dola-ing. :P

My vote stays with kingfc22. If he's a villager, then we all go to hell, right? If he's a werewolf, then we all get to celebrate.

My list of werewolf suspects? Right now it's:
kingfc22 (the obvious one) and digamma

I still have my suspicions on heybrad.

mrsimperless

07-08-2005, 05:06 PM

Current vote count. (Someone please double check)
king (raiders, neon, schmidty, heybrad, raven) 5
heybrad (king, TAG, henry) 3
neon (mrsimperless) 1

Raiders Army

07-08-2005, 05:06 PM

I can say that I haven't done an extensive voting research like you have. The only reason I mentioned those 3 is because of Jeebs post #64. People who lay low scare me because they go unnoticed.
This is a very good point. Right now, BHG tells me:

Brain=kingfc22
Heart=Neon_Chaos
Gut=heybrad

Brain goes with kingfc22 since he is a logical choice (already explained in some of my earlier posts). Heart goes with Neon_Chaos because he voted for me and had no basis other than his gut. Gut tells me heybrad, since Fouts wasn't a werewolf, I feel he must be.

While toying with changing my vote for today, I just can't. I don't feel as if kingfc22 is a werewolf, but everything points to it. Regardless of my feelings, if he is lynched tonight and we find out what he is, I think it will reveal the rest of the game. Tonight's lynching is the keystone to figuring out who is who.

Right now I'm pretty sure mister is a good guy since he's posting his thoughts, which seem to make sense. I'm also trying to figure out if maybe Schmidty is a werewolf, and this was a ploy by them to offer up a sacrifice of him or Blacky the first night to throw us all off and kill two villagers in a row. I think it's a good strategy to sacrifice one for possibly five villagers (3 attacks and 2 lynchings).

digamma

07-08-2005, 05:08 PM

Great, now you're making me want to vote for king again! Damn you werewolves and your tomfoolery! Damn you all to hell!
I'm fairly confident you are not a wolf. I wish you shared that same confidence in me.

Raiders Army

07-08-2005, 05:09 PM

I'm off to play CoH. I'll check in later to see how it all turns out. This has been a week from Hell at work and I'm tired of thinking.

Neon_Chaos

07-08-2005, 05:12 PM

Alright guys. I am off for home. My head hurts, I've been programming non-stop for the past day. It's 6:15 AM, and I've been awake since 5:00 AM Yesterday. When I hit home, I'll check in the forum one last time before going to bed. :P

mrsimperless

07-08-2005, 05:13 PM

Yes, I have a feeling I will be eaten tonight and I'm fairly surprised I haven't been already. I think most everyone can tell I'm not a wolf and they're probably not going to vote for me. If the wolves take me out it doesn't make the villagers jobs any easier, whereas if they take out someone else it might eliminate someone from the list that was more iffy.

That's ok, I lay it all out in the open. If the voting between heybrad and king gets close I'm switching back to king. Heybrad might well be a wolf, but I've gotta play the odds here. If we lynch king tonight and he's a wolf, digamma is a wolf. If king wasn't a wolf it's gotta be neon or one of the other guys from my last list. Best of luck to us villagers.

kingfc22

07-08-2005, 05:13 PM

Raiders: The reason I'm a suspect is because I jumped on the Blackadar vote and then happened to switch. It was by chance that we got lucky and got a wolf on night one. YOU were the 2nd to vote for Blackadar and to me it was the same reason I voted for him initially; because he was the only name and no villager wants to get lynched on day one so you and I went with the flow. I just happened to change my vote and now we are about to kill another villager.

Go with you gut...

kingfc22

07-08-2005, 05:15 PM

dola

Playing poker and trying to keep track of what is going on is awfully difficult.

mrsimperless

07-08-2005, 05:18 PM

kingfc22

07-08-2005, 05:33 PM

What is the biggest argument for heybrad over neon?
My post #243. Even if he is not a wolf he still may be the scorerer who is still a bad guy none the less. Not voting for Blackadar on day 1 combned with my reasons in aforementioned post make me to believe that he is in this role.

Like I've said earlier. Lynching me gives the wolf/ves a HUGE lead over the villagers.

digamma

07-08-2005, 05:35 PM

kingfc22

07-08-2005, 05:38 PM

mrsimperless

07-08-2005, 05:39 PM

Ok, just reread the post. It basically says you think he's a wolf because he didn't vote for Blackie on Day #1 and he voted for you on day #2. As I've already said, if you are not a wolf then we might as well throw out the day #2 voting results. It doesn't mean a thing. If I'm not voting for you today I still say it's Neon over heybrad. But the more you say the less sense you seem to make to me. I don't see the werewolves having a HUGE lead regardless of what happens tonight. Our day 1 lynch really put us ahead. In Werewolf II they lynched villagers like what, the first three days in a row? Maybe more? Plus the cursed was hit right off the bat and that game came down to the wire. We are well ahead of where they were at this point.

mrsimperless

07-08-2005, 05:44 PM

What is your reasoning for not voting for kingfc22 then?

Honestly, I find your strategic reasoning behind the king vote most compelling. I think we can find out a lot by knowing his role--yet I'm not wholly convinced he's a wolf.

I think it's mostly because of my thinking that your are the Lieutenant in the axis, if it exists. And you seem to want everyone to vote for king at this point. That makes me think I've made a mistake somewhere in my reasoning.

I guess it still could be king and heybrad or king and ntndeacon. But like I said, if we lynch king and he turns into a werewolf I see you as the #1 target for tomorrow.

Joe

07-08-2005, 05:48 PM

It seems to me like the choice for kingfc is almost too obvious a choice. IMO a wolf would try better to hide their wolfishness and wouldn't vote and unvote for a fellow wolf on day 1. It just doesnt seem like a smart thing to do. He's still up on my list of suspects, but I don't see that evidence as damning as others. The other people on my list right now are NeonChaos and Heybrad, for reasons already stated. I'm having trouble trying to decide who is more likely to be a wolf, but as Simperless pointed out post #114, it kind of makes more sense in my mind. I may regret not voting for King, but I don't feel all the way on him, not yet. So I will

Vote For HeyBrad

JeeberD

07-08-2005, 05:48 PM

After reading through the thread I'm no less confused who to vote for than I was this morning. However, I'm leaving for work in five minutes and have to vote. I'm not 100% sold on him, but there have been some solid arguements that he is a wolf...

Vote Kingfc22

Neon_Chaos

07-08-2005, 05:52 PM

What is the biggest argument for heybrad over neon? That post #114 is pretty damning IMO. (If in fact king is not a wolf) Also he did a really good job of hiding during day 1. His was the first overall vote, and he voted for Jeeber (whom I'm convinced is not a wolf). Heybrad voted for schmidty. I don't think schmidty is wolf, but he could be.

You're reading too much into things mrsimperless, although I agree that your deducive nature will probably cost you the night. Bodyguard, care to help out?

The vote for Jeeber was just a random vote.

Post #114 was pretty simple. I saw 4 people who did not vote for the Werewolf, who was Blackie:

heybrad, Fouts, kingfc22 and Blackadar

so that leaves us Fouts, heybrad and kingfc22.

Fouts turned out to be a villager. I would have voted for Fouts anyway, if I was able to. So, there's one mistaken identity.

heybrad and kingfc22? They're the best suspects. But hey, everyone's suspected them anyway. Although, again, I reitirate, kingfc22 is the obvious choice. Insanely easy obvious choice. Too obvious that it might not be real.

With all my pandering, I'm sure that I'm probably looking like a werewolf now. But I assure you that I am not.

My vote stays with kingfc22. If he doesn't turn out to be a werewolf (or doesn't get lynched), then I'm practically a lynched man. And that's a risk I'm willing to take.

I am not a werewolf. I am a villager.

kingfc22

07-08-2005, 05:54 PM

Looks like the wolves get 2 today again. Good job guys.

Thomkal

07-08-2005, 06:17 PM

The suspense is killing me! Oh wait....

digamma

07-08-2005, 06:24 PM

I'm going to stick with my strategy vote.

VOTE KINGFC22

Raiders Army

07-08-2005, 06:29 PM

I apologize in advance for the lynching if you're a villager, but I think we just have to know for sure what you are. I still vote for you kingfc22.

KWhit

07-08-2005, 07:03 PM

Day 3:

The voting results:
Kingfc22 - 7 (raiders Army, neon_chaos, Schmidty, heybrad, raven, JeeberD, digamma)
Heybrad - 4 (kingfc22, Token Asian guy, neon_chaos, GWB)
neon_chaos - 1 (mrsimperless)

"No!" screams kingfc22 as you drag him across the room. The discussions are over, and it's time for somebody to hang. You string him up, and he begins to thrash. He screams, "You'll never beat them. The wolves are the future. You will all die in your sleep. Fools!" Finally, he is dead, putting an end to his wails. You have killed the Sorcerer.

You all sigh in relief as you make your way back to your rooms. But you know the wolves will be coming for you tonight. And they're going to be pissed.

KWhit

07-08-2005, 07:05 PM

Alive and Kicking:
henry296
Raven
Neon_Chaos
digamma
mrsimperless
heybrad
George W Bush
JeeberD
ntndeacon
Schmidty
Token Asian Guy
Raiders Army

Gone but not forgotten:
Blackadar - Werewolf, lynched Day 1
Fouts - Villager, lynched Day 2
Thomkal - Villager, killed by Werewolves Night 2
kingfc22 - Sorcerer, lynched, Day 3

PM your night actions to me please. If you get them all to me by midnight, I will post the results tonight. Otherwise, I will post them tomorrow morning.

heybrad

07-08-2005, 07:13 PM

Not fully as expected, but good news! I'm leaving until tomorrow afternoon. Hopefully, I survive the night.

Joe

07-08-2005, 07:13 PM

He wasn't a wolf, but close enough, he was still a baddie. Good call guys.

Thomkal

07-08-2005, 07:13 PM

Woot! Thanks for avenging me! :)

Schmidty

07-08-2005, 07:18 PM

Woot! Thanks for avenging me! :)

Does this mean you were the Seer?

henry296

07-08-2005, 07:20 PM

Good job everyone.

henry296

07-08-2005, 07:23 PM

Just remember the wolves didn't know who the Sorcerer is and the Sorcerer didn't know the wolves.

Also the Seer didn't know that a person would be the Sorcerer. If the seer viewed Kingfc22 he would have appeared as a villager.

Joe

07-08-2005, 07:24 PM

Does this mean you were the Seer?

I think that is revealed upon death.

Raiders Army

07-08-2005, 07:27 PM

Here's how I score it:

Day 1

Neon_Chaos: Jeebs
mrsimperless: Blackadar
Raiders Army: Blackadar
kingfc22: Blackadar first, changed to Schmidty
Thomkal: Buzzbee
heybrad: Schmidty
Fouts: Schmidty
henry296: Raiders Army
JeeberD: Schmidty first, changed to Blackadar
Raven: Buzzbee
GWB: Blackadar
TAG: Buzzbee first, changed to Blackadar
Schmidty: Blackadar

Day 2:

mrsimperless: Fouts
JeeberD: Fouts
Schmidty: Fouts
Thomkal: kingfc22
Raiders Army: Fouts
Fouts: kingfc22
Raven: kingfc22
henry296: kingfc22
TAG: Fouts
heybrad: kingfc22
ntndeacon: kingfc22
digamma: Fouts
GWB: Fouts
Neon_Chaos: No vote
kingfc22: No vote

Day 3:

Raiders Army: kingfc22
Neon_Chaos: Raiders Army first, changed to kingfc22
mrsimperless: kingfc22 first, changed to Neon_Chaos
Schmidty: kingfc22
heybrad: kingfc22
digamma: kingfc22 first, then unvoted, then kingfc22
Raven: kingfc22
kingfc22: heybrad
henry296: Neon_Chaos first, changed to heybrad
TAG: heybrad
GWB: heybrad
JeeberD: kingfc22
Thomkal: No vote
ntndeacon: No vote

So, assigning a numerical value to how people vote:

Neon_Chaos: +0.5
mrsimperless: -0.5
Raiders Army: +1
Thomkal: +0.5**
heybrad: +1.5
henry296: 0
JeeberD: +0.5
Raven: +1.5
GWB: +1
TAG: -1.5
Schmidty: +2
ntndeacon: +0.5*
digamma: 0**

*only one vote so far
**only two votes so far

Using the scale below:
+1 for being wolf target
+1 for wolf/sorceror vote without changing
+0.5 for wolf/sorceror vote on change
+0.5 for not voting against villager
0 for no vote or unknown vote
-0.5 for wrong vote on change (assuming Schmidty is a wrong vote)
-1 for not voting against wolf/sorceror
-1 for wrong vote without changing
The way I see this falling out is this:

I trust Schmidty, heybrad, Raven, and GWB. The next person on my list is Token Asian Guy. ntndeacon has to be up there as well, since he voted once out of three nights.

Raiders Army

07-08-2005, 07:27 PM

Go with you gut...
Glad I went with Brain. :D

kingfc22

07-08-2005, 08:02 PM

Just remember the wolves didn't know who the Sorcerer is and the Sorcerer didn't know the wolves.
Yep, it was just bad luck that I happened to change my vote for Blackadar on day 1 and that pretty much sealed my fate. Wolves, I tried my best to stay alive so that I could help.

Fouts

07-08-2005, 10:05 PM

Fouts good, king bad. Enough said. :)

Neon_Chaos

07-08-2005, 10:57 PM

Damn it. I knew it. This stinks. I would've been much relieved if kingfc22 was a werewolf instead. Good lynch, bad timing.

Hmmm, so this we know...

#1 The wolves did NOT know that kingfc22 was the sorceror. To them, he was also a villager.
#2 The wolves WERE happy that we selected two villagers for lynching on Day 2. I told you kingfc22 was the obvious vote. VERY OBVIOUS, in fact.
#3 This means that it doesn't matter who voted for who in Day 2, the werewolves could have voted both for Fouts and kingfc22 and they were never in danger.
#4 Based on the voting from lynching Day 1, the ones left who voted for someone else other than BlackAdar were heybrad, Raven, and me.
#5 Unless the werewolves willingly sacrificed one of their own on Day 1, then the list of suspects is very, very, very short. Raven, heybad and me all voted to lynch kingfc22 on Day 3. This certainly doesn't look good for me.

Since I [b]KNOW[b] I'm not a wolf, it's Raven and heybrad who are my primary suspects for Day 4 lynching. UNLESS, if the Wolves willingly sacrificed Blackaddar on Day 1, then we're all screwed.

Neon_Chaos

07-08-2005, 10:59 PM

dola

henry296 is also on the list of those who did not vote for Blackadar, he voted for kingfc22 on Day2, and then heybrad on Day 3. He's my third suspect, but he's on the fringes because of his Day 3 vote.

JeeberD

07-08-2005, 11:35 PM

Alright, way to get the bad guys, fellas. Just another two(?) wolves to go...

ntndeacon

07-08-2005, 11:43 PM

I am not going to be around much tomorrow, so I guess I need to do this early instead of not voting. (sorry about that by the way.)
I vote for Heybrad

KWhit

07-09-2005, 08:33 AM

Night 3:

You heard some commotion last night, but stayed in your beds, huddled under your covers in fear. This morning the common room is not as crowded as it was yesterday. Someone is missing.

It is mrsimperless. You check his room and find his body lying dead on the floor. The wolves have struck again, killing another simple villager.

KWhit

07-09-2005, 08:34 AM

Alive and Kicking:
henry296
Raven
Neon_Chaos
digamma
heybrad
George W Bush
JeeberD
ntndeacon
Schmidty
Token Asian Guy
Raiders Army

Gone but not forgotten:
Blackadar - Werewolf, lynched Day 1
Fouts - Villager, lynched Day 2
Thomkal - Villager, killed by Werewolves Night 2
kingfc22 - Sorcerer, lynched, Day 3
mrsimperless - Villager, killed by Werewolves Night 3

KWhit

07-09-2005, 08:37 AM

Votes are due to me by 8pm as usual.

Raiders Army

07-09-2005, 08:54 AM

I thought mrsimperless was going last night. I am going to have to go with probably ntndeacon in lieu of anything else. Primarily because he's been so quiet. The other suspects I have are TAG and heybrad. I am going to have to discount my numerical values above, since the sorc and wolves didn't know who was who. Going out for lunch, but will return later to submit my vote.

Neon_Chaos

07-09-2005, 09:13 AM

Raiders: I think you need to check that list. I didn't vote for heybrad, I voted for kingfc22 on Day 3.

As expected, mrsimperless is taken by the wolves. Surely the bodyguard knew that they were going for mrsimperless, where was he? We could have used one more round of advantage.

Given my points above, and this quote I found from kingfc22 when he was first accused, I'm thinking that heybrad might be innocent after all. kingfc22 wanted the heat off him and the werewolves, of course, and will start naming non-werewolves.

I still have my eye on heybrad. He DID not vote for Blackadar on the first night and then voted for me knowing that if I died it would be just another villager getting the rope. Then the wolves would have you guys lynch Fouts for his suspicious behavior on day one and we already know he WAS a villager. Then the wolves get to strike again and we would still have no clue who to target making this game practically over.

That leaves us with Raven and henry296. I'm also thinking that ntndeacon has been quite silent since the start, and very suspicious at that. If he's a wolf, and heybrad is actually a villager, then he's probably looking to start the bandwagonning on the obvious choice.

The only votes that mattered were on Day 1. I checked again, and ntndeacon didn't cast a vote back then, either.

Raven, henry296 and ntndeacon are my chief suspects now, and with heybrad on the tail end of that list (only slightly, since kingfc22 wanted the heat to go from himself to heybrad)

I'm voting for the silent guy who "isn't going to be around today" and left a vote for heybrad.

Vote ntndeacon

Neon_Chaos

07-09-2005, 09:17 AM

dola

Crap. I forgot that the sorc also didn't know who the werewolves were.

So basically heybrad is back on the frikkin' suspect's list. Raven, henry296, ntndeacon and heybrad on my list.

My vote stays with ntndeacon.

Joe

07-09-2005, 09:27 AM

As expected, mrsimperless is taken by the wolves. Surely the bodyguard knew that they were going for mrsimperless, where was he? We could have used one more round of advantage.

Agreed. But it could have been because the bodyguard can't protect the same person two nights in a row. Mrsimperless I though would be going as well, he pretty much got Blackadar lynched day 1.

Joe

07-09-2005, 09:31 AM

Heybrad is still on my list, I voted for him yesterday and probably will again, unless anything new comes to light. Although, I am starting to get more suspicious of ntndeacon.

digamma

07-09-2005, 09:45 AM

Damn.

JeeberD

07-09-2005, 10:21 AM

That sucks, mrsimperless was good at digging up info... :(

I'm going to be at work most of the day but should be back around 5 or 6 central.

henry296

07-09-2005, 10:52 AM

I'm going to vote now because I have a busy day and not sure if I'll get back on.

VOTE heybrad

He didn't vote for Blackie on Day 1 and he was the first to vote against Schmidty, perhaps trying to save blackie with the vote for someone who isn't active that they knew was a villager. This is why blackie also voted for Schmidty instead of Buzzbee (who also wasn't active).

digamma

07-09-2005, 12:09 PM

I don't think ntndeacon is a wolf, because I don't think a wolf would vote before the night actions were announced...but, I've been wrong a lot so far in this game.

I am going to go with another lay low candidate, who didn't vote for Blacky on Day 1.

Vote Raven

Raven

07-09-2005, 12:23 PM

Looks like MrSimperless was on to something, I need to go back and reread everything here.

Neon, I agree the day 1 voting was important because we got lucky and nailed Blacky, but I think basing everything off of day 1 voting is a blind strategy. In fact, it could lead us down the wrong trail, and maybe that's what they want. Everyone who voted blackie isn't necessarily innocent, and everyone who didn't vote Blackie isn't automatically guilty.

I've already shown my reasoning for my day 1 voting, post #142 If I had voted Schmidty on day 1, I believe he would have been the one who had gone home instead of Blackie.

Token Asian Guy

07-09-2005, 12:30 PM

so we gained some ground by tabbing the sorcerer, but losing mrsimp will hurt us, his analysis was pretty solid. i was right about king not being a wolf...but he was still a baddie, but him being the sorcerer doesn't neccesarily help us find out his allies. surprisingly, heybrad has stayed unharmed since still being a suspect from early on in the game, and ntn is getting some heat now, although i dont think he cast a vote in the first lynching because he was a substitute. that whole, "not going to be around today" thing could be genuine, but i feel he might just be ducking low to avoid some heat. i voted for heybrad last time, and i am still suspicious. just because he was against king who turned out to be bad doesn't mean much considering the wolves dont know the sorcerer, so it might have been bad vs bad this time around. i'm trying to deliberate this in my head as i type, and i think it seems to make sense that heybrad could be just playing this whole situation to his advantage. so like i did yesterday, i'll do again.

VOTE HEYBRAD

ntndeacon

07-09-2005, 12:33 PM

I am the Witness. I saw Token Asian Guy kill mrsimperless.
[B]Unvote Heybrad
Vote Token Asian Guy[B]

Neon_Chaos

07-09-2005, 12:36 PM

Hmmm. TAG raises a good point. And if heybrad turns out to be a villager, then we are definitely, definitely screwed.

Unvote ntndeacon

Vote heybrad

ntndeacon

07-09-2005, 12:38 PM

I am the Witness. I saw Token Asian Guy kill mrsimperless.
[B]Unvote Heybrad
Vote Token Asian Guy[B]
Lets try this again.
Unvote HeyBrad
Vote Token Asian Guy

ntndeacon

07-09-2005, 12:40 PM

I will be back about 5:00 Cental to talk more

Neon_Chaos

07-09-2005, 12:41 PM

I am the Witness. I saw Token Asian Guy kill mrsimperless.
[B]Unvote Heybrad
Vote Token Asian Guy[B]

Oh great. So now I'm all confused.

Unvote heybrad

Joe

07-09-2005, 12:45 PM

wow, that sure puts a different spin on things. do we take him at his word?

Neon_Chaos

07-09-2005, 12:45 PM

Oops. Proper tagging, damnit.

Unvote heybrad

Token Asian Guy

07-09-2005, 12:59 PM

I am the Witness. I saw Token Asian Guy kill mrsimperless.
[B]Unvote Heybrad
Vote Token Asian Guy[B]

:eek: what the hell? alright, guys you have to believe me, I am not a wolf, but i must have struck a nerve with the wolves to have them accuse me out of the blue like this. i'll admit, it's a smart play by you ntn and heybrad to take heat off of you, two of the top vote getters right now. look at it this way guys: why would ntn wait to reveal what he saw until after he already voted for heybrad, a fellow wolf, making him look to not be in an alliance with him? this is just strategy, well played i must admit, but hopefully the rest of you can believe me and not send another of your fellow villagers to an unneccesary exit.

Raven

07-09-2005, 01:30 PM

I'm not sure who to believe, TAG or Ntndeacon or either of them?

If Ntndeacon is indeed the witness, TAG is a wolf, and we are a step closer to winning.

If ntndeacon is a wolf, it means SOMEONE witnessed last night, and they are setting up TAG before the real witness gets a chance to post. Anyone who says they are the witness today won't be believed.

In this scenario, TAG and ntndeacon may both be wolves, one of them being the werewolf king and gets to retaliate when lynched. It also makes the other look good.

They both accused heybrad. I'm still not sure if that makes him an innocent bystander or another piece of their puzzle of confusion....

I'm going to take my chances and vote Token Asian Guy

I'm curious as to what the bandwagoners do here.

Neon_Chaos

07-09-2005, 02:11 PM

Bah. I'm tired. I need sleep. It's 3 AM here.

Vote Token Asian Guy

Raiders Army

07-09-2005, 02:28 PM

Okay. Obviously there is something between ntndeacon and TAG. This is what I see:

Day 1 votes matter. Day 2 votes do not. Day 3 votes may matter, since the wolves thought kingfc22 was a villager.

Therefore, whoever didn't vote for Blacky is still a suspect for sure. And, whoever voted for kingfc22 may be a suspect. These people are:

Neon_Chaos, voted for Jeebs, voted for kingfc22
heybrad, voted for Schmidty, voted for kingfc22
Raven, voted for Buzzbee, voted for kingfc22

Thomkal, voted for Buzzbee, no vote on day 3

ntndeacon didn't vote at all on day 1 or day 3. TAG voted for Blacky (werewolf) and heybrad. If TAG were a werewolf, he should've voted for kingfc22 on Day 3, instead of heybrad. This is because he would've thought kingfc22 was a villager.

Because ntndeacon has laid low other than claiming to be a witness, I think he's the one.

Vote ntndeacon

I think the bad guys are ntndeacon and heybrad. There may be one or two out there as well, but those are the top guys. Because ntndeacon has laid the gauntlet down, I say we bump him out.

Oh, mr. bodyguard, please protect me tonight? :)

Joe

07-09-2005, 02:29 PM

I'm still not sure whether I should believe ntndeacon or not. He had some suspicion on him, but not enough to make him do something so drastic as saying he was the witness, if it weren't the truth. Especially since he fingered TAG, who was pretty low on most of our radars makes it more believable to me. Lying about that would seem like a last ditch effort, and since he wasn't in that position, I'll have to go with him.

I Vote For Token Asian Guy

Edited to add: I'm now more sure about this after going back and looking at the day 1 voting. TAG switched after the deadline, voting for Blackadar. I'm thinking this was done to try and save himself.

Raiders Army

07-09-2005, 02:32 PM

Joe

07-09-2005, 02:55 PM

GWB, fellow survivors. This is what I believe. We can say all we want at this point in the game. Actions speak louder than words. TAG voted for a werewolf on day 1, and didn't vote for a perceived villager on day 3. This in my mind, says that he's innocent. ntndeacon has done nothing on those two days, and has made an accusation.

I didn't think you could reveal you're the witness?

I'm not sure if you're suppossed to reveal you're the witness. I agree that the day 1 votes matter, but TAG voted for Buzzbee before switching to Blackadar. I haven't looked at all the posts to see at what point he switched, but if he did it after it didn't matter anymore, it might be something to look at.

Raven

07-09-2005, 03:05 PM

I'm off to work, so am done until late tonight.

Good luck, I hope we get the right guy tonight.

Schmidty

07-09-2005, 03:25 PM

I think I have to vote for TAG. If he ends up being a villager, we'll know FOR SURE who to vote for tommorrow.

Vote Token Asian Guy

heybrad

07-09-2005, 03:58 PM

Ntndeacon was a little to quick to jump to me after yesterdays lynching. I would have thought my vote for Kingfc would have cleared me.

Vote ntndeacon

For those who have voted for me, vote anyway you like, but I strongly suggest you look at evidence on others.

Joe

07-09-2005, 04:38 PM

by my count, this is what the votes look like:

ntndeacon- raiders army, heybrad
heybrad- henry, TAG
raven- digamma
TAG- ntndeacon, raven, neon, gwb, schmidty

so just waiting on Jeebs' vote and anyone who may switch.

JeeberD

07-09-2005, 05:10 PM

Why would deacon say he was the witness if he's a wolf? He's pretty much signing his own death warrant if TAG turns out to be a villager. There are two or three wolves left right now...wouldn't sacrificing one of their own be kinda stupid right now?

Give me feedback, fellas...

mrsimperless

07-09-2005, 05:15 PM

Good luck to the villagers! The truth will be known in the end.

digamma

07-09-2005, 05:46 PM

I guess we gotta give this one a shot.

Unvote Raven.

Vote Token Asian Guy.

Raiders Army

07-09-2005, 05:56 PM

Well geez, I guess my perception skills need a little honing, the guy who I voted for isn't even playing! Now I am faced with a predicament in terms of voting though, because some good points have been made in favor of lynching Blackadar, but I have the sneaking suspicion that Blackadar is not a wolf. Here is the updated vote for me. (if it's not too late)

UNVOTE BUZZBEE
VOTE BLACKADAR
This is TAG's reason for voting for Buzzbee. Let me check if he was one of the swing votes.

Raiders Army

07-09-2005, 05:59 PM

Raiders Army

07-09-2005, 06:00 PM

BHG tells me:

Brain: ntndeacon
Heart: heybrad
Gut: ntndeacon

Brain and Gut win. I'm sticking with ntndeacon.

Raiders Army

07-09-2005, 06:02 PM

Crap...now looking at heybrad's vote on ntndeacon, that makes me think that he's trying to spread the vote tonight. Let me see what you guys have to say before I go final.

ntndeacon

07-09-2005, 06:05 PM

:eek: what the hell? alright, guys you have to believe me, I am not a wolf, but i must have struck a nerve with the wolves to have them accuse me out of the blue like this. i'll admit, it's a smart play by you ntn and heybrad to take heat off of you, two of the top vote getters right now. look at it this way guys: why would ntn wait to reveal what he saw until after he already voted for heybrad, a fellow wolf, making him look to not be in an alliance with him? this is just strategy, well played i must admit, but hopefully the rest of you can believe me and not send another of your fellow villagers to an unneccesary exit.

well I voted for heybrad before I had gotten the vision. The post with mrsimperless' killing is after my post about heybrad. (I wasn't sure whether or not I was going to be near a computer much today.) However when ihad time to use the computer at lunch, I "saw my vision" (or read the PM from Kwhit.) If Token Asian Guy dies, we will have one less wolf.

ntndeacon

07-09-2005, 06:07 PM

and let's see if the 3rd time is a charm on the boldfacing ...
Unvote heybrad
Vote TAG

Raiders Army

07-09-2005, 06:10 PM

Going for a walk. I probably won't be back in time to vote again, so I'm going to have to go with TAG, since I think heybrad is trying to spread out the votes. Jeez.

Unvote ntndeacon
Vote TAG

ntndeacon

07-09-2005, 06:11 PM

Oh and Raiders Army...
I believe that revealing that you are the Witness is about like revealing that you were the Duke in past games (like Airhog last game) or the seer revealing himself.

digamma

07-09-2005, 06:11 PM

Okay...looking at it, TAG's vote was the swing vote....however, he submitted it "late". Jeebs brings up a good point about ntndeacon signing his death warrant. However, looking at the numbers, if we make a mistake tonight, I think the wolves have it locked up, so it wouldn't matter.
This is the thing that is tripping me up. The vote for Blacky. However...

If ntn is telling the truth, we kill a wolf.

If he's not, we kill a villager, but we pretty much know ntn is a wolf. We need to get lucky with the bodyguard tonight, and we knock him off tomorrow.

Trouble is if we miss with the bodyguard. Then we may be struggling with numbers.

Airhog

07-09-2005, 06:33 PM

ntndeacon does have a point. However, I think this game around, the wolves will kill the witness in retaliation. Everyone saw what someone with loose lips was able to accomplish :D

JeeberD

07-09-2005, 07:20 PM

I'm gonna take deacon at his word.

Vote TAG

KWhit

07-09-2005, 07:37 PM

Day 4:

heybrad 2 (henry296, Token Asian Guy)
ntndeacon 1 (heybrad)
Token Asian Guy 8 (ntndeacon, neon_chaos, Raven, GWB, Schmidty, digamma, raiders army, JeeberD)

You take the alleged witness at his word and go after Token Asian Guy. He backs away from you, and as you close in, he begins to snarl. Hair starts to sprout all over his body, and his face turns into a snout. You rush him as he completes his transformation. The rope goes around his neck and you lift him into the air dangling from the rope. The hairy beast swings from side to side and finally dies. You have killed a werewolf tonight. You congratulate each other and head off to bed.

KWhit

07-09-2005, 07:39 PM

Alive and Kicking:
henry296
Raven
Neon_Chaos
digamma
heybrad
George W Bush
JeeberD
ntndeacon
Schmidty
Raiders Army

Gone but not forgotten:
Blackadar - Werewolf, lynched Day 1
Fouts - Villager, lynched Day 2
Thomkal - Villager, killed by Werewolves Night 2
kingfc22 - Sorcerer, lynched, Day 3
mrsimperless - Villager, killed by Werewolves Night 3
Token Asian Guy - Werewolf - lynched Day 4

KWhit

07-09-2005, 07:39 PM

Send me your night actions please. I will post them late tonight if I get them all. Otherwise, it will be tomorrow morning.

Joe

07-09-2005, 07:41 PM

and another one bites the dust. good work again guys.

JeeberD

07-09-2005, 07:44 PM

Awesome, way to go deacon! :)

Thomkal

07-09-2005, 08:53 PM

Yay humans!

kingfc22

07-09-2005, 09:21 PM

SirFozzie

07-09-2005, 09:28 PM

2 wolfies and a sorceror. Sheesh. Good work, guys.

Neon_Chaos

07-09-2005, 09:29 PM

OH YEAH! WE GOT A WEREWOLF! Hmmm, TAG might have been the cursed, maybe that's why he was the swing vote on Day 1 and we didn't get a kill that night?

So... there's only two or one more werewolves left? And the King Wolf is still out there. Jeez.

I think that heybrad is pretty much innocent now. TAG has been targetting him since after day 2. henry296, on the other hand, has been piggy-backing TAG the past two votes.

Things are looking bad for henry296 right now, VERY BAD. Because henry296, I think that you're a werewolf.

Neon_Chaos

07-09-2005, 09:43 PM

My list of suspects that I think might be werewolves:

henry296, raiders army, JeeberD, heybrad

henry296 is the obvious choice. And it seems that the obvious choices turn out bad for us. However, I still think that henry296 pretty much damned himself by going with TAG the past two votes. I have Raiders Army there because he was pretty much ready for the ntndeacon vote, until he saw that TAG was lost after diagamma voted for TAG. Same reasoning for Jeeber D, jumping in at the last moment on the TAG vote. heybrad would be the least likely, but he's still suspicious... if a little bit, who knows the werewolves might have been trying to spread the votes enough to have ntndeacon get whacked.

Joe

07-09-2005, 09:48 PM

I was just about to post that about Raiders Army. He seemed way too sure about voting for ntndeacon, only to change the vote to TAG after all seemed lost. Its the same thing TAG did on day 1 with the Blackadar vote.

Raiders Army

07-09-2005, 09:57 PM

To clarify, I was almost positive ntndeacon would be the one lying. I changed my vote because that's what I thought was best since the tipping factor was that I believed heybrad was attempting to spread out the votes.

For the record, I think I've done as much analysis as anyone, and I've left myself publicly open. Also, this is the only vote that I changed...and I wasn't really confident at changing it. I was the second person to vote for Blacky and I didn't change my vote. FWIW, I would also look at myself as a prime suspect as well.

Raiders Army

07-09-2005, 09:59 PM

Neon_Chaos

07-09-2005, 10:01 PM

Here is Raiders Army's post #217, the very first vote cast after Day 2.

Doh. In looking over your posts, I find that there were possibly two things that got you eaten.

1. Your questioning of how people voted.
2. Your big suspicions of Kingfc22.

I would put the top three people who are suspicious in your death as being Kingfc22, JeeberD (whom you questioned), and myself.

The top choice is obviously Kingfc22. I would rank myself as being suspicious as a wolf as well (with my conversation with Fouts yesterday). Finally, you did call out Jeebs.

Since I think the Jeebs vote is somewhat weak, and I'm not going to vote for myself, I have one last choice:

Vote kingfc22

Sorry I didn't do it last night Fouts.

The werewolves didn't know that kingfc22 was the sorc. Perhaps Raiders was trying to use some misdirection and reverse psychology to take the heat off of him and JeeberD? I don't know.

As for henry296, he's been pretty low-key, BUT has sided with TAG the past two votes. I'm thinking TAG and henry296 were working as a team, with Raiders and/or JeeberD on the other side, trying to split votes between two villagers.

Not sure yet.

People count is 10 right now. So, there might only be 4 or less werewolves left, including the king wolf. The killing tonight will give us a clearer view for tommorow's vote. And tommorow's vote is going to be BIG.

I feel that after the accusations I've made, either me or ntndeacon will be gone after the Night phase.

Token Asian Guy

07-09-2005, 10:07 PM

Hey guys, it was great playing the game, I had tons of fun. It's nice not having to worry about what I type in this post, since I have to lurk no longer. Mrsimp was delicious though.

JeeberD

07-09-2005, 10:43 PM

Same reasoning for Jeeber D, jumping in at the last moment on the TAG vote.

Sorry that I had to work all day...

Schmidty

07-09-2005, 11:46 PM

Reading everything over again, and thinking about things way too hard, I am VERY suspicious of Raiders Army. This may get me eaten tonight, but he is trying extremely hard to do......something. I just feel that he is trying to throw us off. Then again, heybrad andhenry look very suspicious as well.

Raven

07-10-2005, 12:03 AM

Way to go guys! We have to be very close to ending this thing.

SirFozzie

07-10-2005, 12:26 AM

you guys MAY finish before we do! (if Brian was the last baddie over there.. we win :D)

Raiders Army

07-10-2005, 05:47 AM

The werewolves didn't know that kingfc22 was the sorc. Perhaps Raiders was trying to use some misdirection and reverse psychology to take the heat off of him and JeeberD? I don't know.

For the record, I was confused that the sorc and wolves knew/didn't know who each other were. I corrected myself after that post by stating that I discounted my analysis of the votes (you know, the really long posts I did).

Reading everything over again, and thinking about things way too hard, I am VERY suspicious of Raiders Army. This may get me eaten tonight, but he is trying extremely hard to do......something. I just feel that he is trying to throw us off. Then again, heybrad andhenry look very suspicious as well.
Yes, I was trying to swing the vote to ntndeacon, and I was trying very hard to do it. I admit that. The reasoning was that I thought we were making a mistake voting for TAG. As I said above, I would consider myself to be very suspicious as well. I would ask that you consider the whole game so far, not just the past night.

At this point, we're far enough ahead of the wolves to be able to sacrifice someone to come to a logical conclusion. I will throw down the gauntlet to someone that I consider to be a wolf. I just need to figure out who. It may be Neon_Chaos, since he made a comment like this:

I feel that after the accusations I've made, either me or ntndeacon will be gone after the Night phase.

Regardless of anything, I think ntndeacon will be gone during the night phase. Neon_Chaos hasn't made any huge accusations, and I feel as if I'm the biggest target right now from the wolves...but I don't think they'll take me out during the night phase. They will take ntndeacon out, and let you take me out on the vote tonight.

Raiders Army

07-10-2005, 05:49 AM

BTW, when I say sacrifice someone, I mean me. I know I'm a villager, but you don't know that. If I throw the gauntlet down between me and someone else, and you choose to lynch me, you'll know for sure the other person is a werewolf. I feel that it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make at this point.

KWhit

07-10-2005, 08:31 AM

Night 4:

The morning breaks warm and sunny. The birds are singing and you wake feeling better about the situation you're in. It was great to get a werewolf yesterday, and who knows? Maybe there wasn't a kill last night.

But when you make your way downstairs, there is one less villager. You realize that digamma is missing. You search his room, and find his body. You also see a number of silver weapons and a shield. You're confused at first, but then realize that digamma was not a normal villager. The werewolves have killed the Bodyguard.

KWhit

07-10-2005, 08:33 AM

Alive and Kicking:
henry296
Raven
Neon_Chaos
heybrad
George W Bush
JeeberD
ntndeacon
Schmidty
Raiders Army

Gone but not forgotten:
Blackadar - Werewolf, lynched Day 1
Fouts - Villager, lynched Day 2
Thomkal - Villager, killed by Werewolves Night 2
kingfc22 - Sorcerer, lynched, Day 3
mrsimperless - Villager, killed by Werewolves Night 3
Token Asian Guy - Werewolf, lynched Day 4
digamma - Bodyguard, killed by Werewolves Night 4

KWhit

07-10-2005, 08:39 AM

Schedule change:

I'll be out all afternoon and night, so let's put off the lynching until tomorrow. So the vote deadline is going to be 8pm on Monday night. Then we'll have the night actions take place the same way they have been.

That sound okay?

Joe

07-10-2005, 08:40 AM

Well this game just took a turn for the worse. We still have the numbers, but damn.

Neon_Chaos

07-10-2005, 09:17 AM

I have made accusations, Raiders, I accused henry296 to be a werewolf, and you to be a very, very big suspect as a werewolf. I was the 2nd person to vote for TAG. If you still think I'm a werewolf, feel free to vote for me.

I will still stick to my suspects list:

henry296, Raiders Army, JeeberD and heybrad. One of them probably isn't a wolf, and it's more likely to be JeeberD or heybrad.

My vote will most likely go to henry296, considering he has been consistent in aligning with TAG the past two votes.

We have about 1 and 1/2 days to go before this vote gets finalized, and this is going to be a BIG vote. We lynch a villager, and we're as good as dead. We lynch a werewolf, and we'll be one step closer to winning this game early.

As for your gauntlet, Raiders... why would you want to get lynched and sacrifice yourself? What if the person who accepts your challenge also turns out to be a villager? We're all screwed, then. Or perhaps, you're the Wolf King, looking to take out another villager so that the Wolves can get a 2-1 kill ratio for the day, and can catch up with the numbers game? I'm not sure.

Unless more evidence comes out, I will go with the likely vote. I say that henry296 is a werewolf.

Raiders Army

07-10-2005, 10:08 AM

As for your gauntlet, Raiders... why would you want to get lynched and sacrifice yourself? What if the person who accepts your challenge also turns out to be a villager? We're all screwed, then. Or perhaps, you're the Wolf King, looking to take out another villager so that the Wolves can get a 2-1 kill ratio for the day, and can catch up with the numbers game? I'm not sure.

Very good point. I think I was just trying to save my "rep" in the game vs. trying to find something out. Since you're not targeting me, I can assume you're not a wolf, since I would think they would want to get an easy kill at this point.

digamma

07-10-2005, 10:16 AM

Come on, villagers.

JeeberD

07-10-2005, 10:19 AM

Crap, it hurts losing digamma. I'm sure he was protecting deacon since he was the obvious choice for the wolves to go after, and they went after a random villager instead and got lucky with di... :(

henry296

07-10-2005, 11:44 AM

While I voted with TAG on the last vote, it was only because I didn't see the comments from the witness. I was away from the moutain all afternoon and night. If I had seen the comments for the witness I would have voted for TAG to be lynched.

ntndeacon

07-10-2005, 01:10 PM

Raven

07-10-2005, 02:41 PM

My list of suspects: henry and heybrad

Both have been pretty quiet.
Their voting :
day 1
for raiders(henry)
for schmidty(brad)
Day 2
for king(henry, brad)
Day 3
king(brad)
henry didn't vote?
Day 4
for brad(henry)
for ntndeacon(brad)

Not suspects (yet) to me:
neon_chaos, he has been throwing around a lot of names, maybe trying to draw attention to himself. I think he may be the duke, looking to get lynched so he can kill someone else instead.
RaidersArmy, the other guy I suspect of possibly being the duke.
Schmidty, day 1 explains it all. if the wolves were willing to sacrifice blackie vs schmidty, and both were wolves, we are all screwed.
GWB, his day 1 vote for Blackadar in a swing situation was pivotal. Also voted TAG
Jeeber, he has voted for both Blackadar and TAG.
ntndeacon is a villager obviously.

JeeberD

07-10-2005, 02:52 PM

After looking at some of the evidence that others have provided...

Vote Henry

Raiders Army

07-10-2005, 04:33 PM

Just a word in defense of Raiders.
The wolves saw me as I witnessed mrsimperless. They knew I had recognized one of their own as a wolf...(whether they knew I saw TAG is up in the air at the moment. I haven't been a wolf before) I definately think that Raiders vote for me exhonerates (sp) him (at least in my eyes) . I think the wolves would not have accused me, simply because they had to figure I would put the heat on TAG.
While I appreciate the word of defense, I think that everyone needs to consider me a suspect at this point. The only person they should really trust is you. :)

You are the only person I think is a good guy at this point for sure.

Schmidty is on the bubble for me.

Everyone else I consider a suspect.

Raiders Army

07-10-2005, 04:36 PM

I have the feeling that the wolves were really unorganized in the beginning, which led to Blacky getting lynched. The proof would be the fact that TAG's vote was the one that sent him to the gallows! What gambit did they try to do for the first day? Not to mention the fact that the bodyguard successfully defended against their attack that night....or did he? Were the wolves so disorganized that they didn't even send a PM for an attack?

heybrad is still a prime suspect in my mind. henry296 is definitely the other.

Raiders Army

07-10-2005, 05:09 PM

Just a word in defense of Raiders.
The wolves saw me as I witnessed mrsimperless. They knew I had recognized one of their own as a wolf...(whether they knew I saw TAG is up in the air at the moment. I haven't been a wolf before) I definately think that Raiders vote for me exhonerates (sp) him (at least in my eyes) . I think the wolves would not have accused me, simply because they had to figure I would put the heat on TAG.
Actually, this doesn't help me whatsoever. :)

If I were a wolf, I would've tried to get you to hang last night with the whole "you're lying" thing, and tried to get someone else during the night phase...which is what they did. To attack you during the night phase was predictable, and something the bodyguard was probably keenly aware of. The wolves' best option yesterday was to take you out on the vote...which is something that I tried to do.

I just wanted to bring that to light to show that I'm on the level.

Peregrine

07-10-2005, 07:33 PM

henry296

07-10-2005, 07:59 PM

Joe

07-10-2005, 09:47 PM

A question for everyone that thinks I am a wolf:

Why would I be the only vote for Raiders Army on the first night if I knew that Blackadar was wolf? Wouldn't I switch my vote to Schmidty to help protect Blackadar instead of being out on my own?

If your response, is that I was the cursed villager, then why was I the first to point out that the getting the cursed villager was an option instead of a successful saves by the bodyguard? I would have't kept that information a secret for someone else to reveal.

If you have good answers, to the questions, I'd love to here them.

Villager henry

Its possible that you were trying to spread the votes out, or maybe you thought that by switching would make you look suspicious, and erred on the side of caution. I don't know. The thing that makes you look guilty is that you didn't vote for either Blackadar or TAG, the two known wolves. Of course, the same thing can be said for Heybrad. Which is why you're on my list as well as that of others.

Now, Raiders Army I had been suspicious of, mainly because of what he did yesterday with the switch to TAG at the end. But looking over the course of the full game, I'm less confidant that he is a wolf.

Neon_Chaos

07-10-2005, 10:06 PM

Its possible that you were trying to spread the votes out, or maybe you thought that by switching would make you look suspicious, and erred on the side of caution. I don't know. The thing that makes you look guilty is that you didn't vote for either Blackadar or TAG, the two known wolves. Of course, the same thing can be said for Heybrad. Which is why you're on my list as well as that of others.

Now, Raiders Army I had been suspicious of, mainly because of what he did yesterday with the switch to TAG at the end. But looking over the course of the full game, I'm less confidant that he is a wolf.

I agree with regards to Raiders, that vote switch really sent off alarms ringing. But I think that we can overlook that for now. The problem right now, is who do we vote for? henry296 or heybrad?

My evidence for henry296 is out on the table. The evidence for heybrad is also out there. Read back, and evaluate. this vote is probably going to make or break us.

JeeberD has cast the first stone, putting in a vote for henry296. But he's on my list of suspects. Perhaps the wolves are trying to get a completely suspicious, yet unlucky henry296 hanged? Either that, or JeeberD is a complete innocent that's been convinced by the evidence we've put out.

ntndeacon, since you're the only surefire innocent in this band of villagers, I will most likely vote for whoever you're going to vote for.

Raiders Army

07-11-2005, 04:56 AM

RA, you have to realize that proclaiming your innocence is a prime sign of being a werewolf. Of course so is admitting to being a werewolf. The latter has been known to cause death by strangulation in some test subjects.
I neither proclaim my innocence or admit to being a werewolf. I thought I made that clear in my posts. All I know is I can trust ntndeacon for sure. Everyone else is up in the air. Accordingly, everyone else should think the same way.

timmynausea

07-11-2005, 05:35 AM

Neon_Chaos

07-11-2005, 05:50 AM

Just an observer so I have no agenda in this: Wouldn't it have been a brilliant move for the wolves to sacrifice one of their own and have the King Wolf claim to be a witness while the other two wolves (maybe Raiders Army and Neon Chaos) really hammer the hard sell on ntndeacon being the only sure villager?

Lol. Yeah, it would. Now, come to think of it, ntndeacon might not be a sure-shot witness anymore.

Joe

07-11-2005, 06:20 AM

its a good theory, but if ntndeacon wasn't the witness, wouldn't the real witness have come forward by now? Of course, maybe he wouldn't want to blow cover if he hasn't viewed a kill yet.

Raiders Army

07-11-2005, 07:17 AM

I'm going to be out most of today, but will vote for tonight's lynching.

JeeberD

07-11-2005, 08:35 AM

Just an observer so I have no agenda in this: Wouldn't it have been a brilliant move for the wolves to sacrifice one of their own and have the King Wolf claim to be a witness while the other two wolves (maybe Raiders Army and Neon Chaos) really hammer the hard sell on ntndeacon being the only sure villager?

I was thinking the exact same thing last night. Sacrifice one of their own for the perception of an innocent. Very smart move if it's what they did...

Neon_Chaos

07-11-2005, 08:44 AM

Well, I'm off to bed. If we make a mistake tonight, we're screwed.

Vote henry296

henry296

07-11-2005, 08:53 AM

Again, I didn't vote for Token Asian Guy because I was away from the board all day Saturday afternoon and night. We hosted a housewarming party that evening so I was shopping and preparing for that, plus I had guests in from out of town.

VOTE heybrad

I've voted fro him before, plus many of you suspect he is the wolf and i agree.

heybrad

07-11-2005, 10:29 AM

At this point I am probably going to vote for Henry.

I've already said this about 3 or 4 times, and you all need to read this twice. Vote for me if you think I'm the wolf... BUT, please give your reasoning on an alternative. If I keep saying this, I fully expect to be torn to shreds one of these nights.

henry296

07-11-2005, 12:15 PM

Actually, to take a look at it, I still think heybrad is the prime suspect as possibly the Wolf King. I think he was trying to spread out the vote...why would TAG vote for him and he vote for the seer?

When did heybrad vote for the seer? We have had no confirmation that the seer is dead and I don't think they revealed themselves.

Raven

07-11-2005, 02:38 PM

henry vs heybrad is beginning to smell more and more like a setup. I think both could potentially be villagers.

Late last night Neon_chaos said he'd vote with Ntndeacon, then decided to vote henry today.( I think neon is the guy who said he was in another time zone?) Either way, I think he was waiting for ntndeacon to vote, and when he hadn't, he had to go to bed so took a chance on henry.

I don't like the idea that he was going to ride deacon's coat-tails, and he is now my prime suspect. Also, the guy pointing the most fingers now has no other suspects other than henry and brad??

I vote Neon_chaos

KWhit

07-11-2005, 03:02 PM

Voting so far:

Henry296 2 (JeeberD, neon_chaos)
heybrad 1 (henry296)
neon_chaos 1 (Raven)

henry296

07-11-2005, 03:04 PM

I also have my doubts about heybrad as well. I was really only voting for him to help save myself instead of having a single vote someone else.

Since we know that Token Asian Guy was a werewolf and he voted for heybrad before the witness' comment seems to vindicate heybrad as a wolf. Since I then voted for heybrad on multiple occasions plus the only reason I didn't vote for TAG was being away from my computer should help prove that I am not a werewolf.

I am going to vote for neon_chaos to support Raven plus I voted for him early on, but I also suspect JeeberD.
UNVOTE heybrad
VOTE neon_chaos

henry296

07-11-2005, 03:04 PM

dola,

My initial vote today for heybrad was more about self preservation than anything else.

KWhit

07-11-2005, 03:09 PM

Revised voting so far:

Henry296 2 (JeeberD, neon_chaos)
neon_chaos 2 (Raven, henry296)

Raven

07-11-2005, 03:11 PM

Good luck guys, I'm off to work.

Raiders Army

07-11-2005, 04:21 PM

When did heybrad vote for the seer? We have had no confirmation that the seer is dead and I don't think they revealed themselves.
Meant to say why did heybrad and TAG vote for each other I think. I still have no clue as to who is good and who is bad. All I know is that ntndeacon is a good guy. I'm wondering where Schmidty leans on this.

Schmidty

07-11-2005, 04:59 PM

Shit. My head hurts. My gut is telling me to vote for Henry. I think that someone everyone thinks is harmless is actually a wolf (RA? Raven?Jeeber?), but I'm gonna have to go with my gut tonight. I just think we're being played with regard to tonight's vote.

Vote Henry

heybrad

07-11-2005, 05:07 PM

Since we know that Token Asian Guy was a werewolf and he voted for heybrad before the witness' comment seems to vindicate heybrad as a wolf. Since I then voted for heybrad on multiple occasions plus the only reason I didn't vote for TAG was being away from my computer should help prove that I am not a werewolf.

Everytime I read this I think... you're explaining more why you are the werewolf than not the werewolf. If I'm wrong I'm sorry, but I'm going with it.

Vote Henry296

Schmidty

07-11-2005, 05:21 PM

I am getting the feeling that there's a MUCH higher chance that the people who wait to vote until late are the werewolves. That way, they can see how the vote is likely going to go, and then if losing one of their own is inevitable, they vote for that person (after a few PMs between them) so they'll look squeaky clean. I might really need to rethink things again. The fact that RA is waiting so long to vote, and said something like "I'd like to see how Schmidty votes" before casting his own vote, is EXTREMELY fishy. I am truly starting to think the RA is the Wolf King, or at least a wolf. (Sorry, RA, I think you're playing an awesome game either way, and I could very well be wrong). My two highest suspects are now Heybrad and RA.

Unvote Henry

Vote Raiders Army

Raiders Army

07-11-2005, 05:25 PM

Awww Jesus. Schmidty has to vote for me? I have had too many beers to make a logical choice at this point. I'd like to vote for Neon_Chaos, but heybrad's been on my radar for a while. Screw it. I'll vote for Henry, since he voted for me on the first day.

Vote Henry296

Schmidty

07-11-2005, 05:27 PM

Now that I think about it, not only does this mean that RA and Heybrad are suspects to me, but I just read a few pages, and the guy getting lost in all of this is GWB. The fact that he's been so lukewarm tells me that there's a very good chance that he's a wolf too. My 3 main suspects:

1. Raiders Army

2. George W Bush

3. Heybrad

If I'm right, I am dead tonight. If I'm wrong, the wolves will keep me around. It'll be an interesting night to say the least.

Schmidty

07-11-2005, 05:28 PM

And with that vote by RA, I am almost POSITIVE that Henry is an innocent villager. It'll be too bad if he dies tonight.

Raiders Army

07-11-2005, 05:29 PM

How am I #1?

Raiders Army

07-11-2005, 05:31 PM

BTW, my vote for henry is also for self-preservation.

Schmidty

07-11-2005, 05:32 PM

How am I #1?

You've been the game HARD (which isn't bad). You vote very, very shrewdly. The waiting-to-vote-until-just-about-everyone-else-did thing really rubbed me wierd. Also, I've just had a feeling about you the past few days.

Who knows, I'm probably wrong. I've had a few today too. :)

Schmidty

07-11-2005, 05:33 PM

You've been the game HARD (which isn't bad). You vote very, very shrewdly. The waiting-to-vote-until-just-about-everyone-else-did thing really rubbed me wierd. Also, I've just had a feeling about you the past few days.

Who knows, I'm probably wrong. I've had a few today too. :)

Should be "playing the game HARD".

Raiders Army

07-11-2005, 05:35 PM

Well, you are wrong, FWIW. I try to vote shrewdly, but today, I've had too much beer and I just don't know. The only person who could accuse me of being a wolf that would hurt more is ntndeacon. I want to think you're one of the good guys, and I'm pretty sure you are, but the wolves seemed disorganized Day 1.

Joe

07-11-2005, 05:38 PM

After reading today's posts, I don't think anything new has come to light for me. I still suspect Henry mainly because of the voting patterns. With that said about the voting patters, I think it may mean that brad is innocent, since a known wolf was so adamant about going after him (TAG). Since those were my two main suspects and most of the clues still point towards Henry, thats my vote for tonight.

I Vote For Henry

Schmidty

07-11-2005, 05:39 PM

Damnit. We're fucked. Another villager is probably dead, and I'm gonna be toast tonight.

Joe

07-11-2005, 05:42 PM

dola, sorry for not being more active on the weekdays, but its not by design or strategy. Obviously you will notice the difference in access I have on the weekends. As I have said in this thread, I recently started a new job, and tried logging on to FOFC only to find that it's blocked because it fits into the "games" category, so if you guys know a way around something like that, please let me know.

henry296

07-11-2005, 06:10 PM

You are going to learn nothing after tonight's lynching. I am just a lowly villager. If I just been able to log back in Saturday afternoon to change my vote.

ntndeacon

07-11-2005, 06:10 PM

I vote Henry

henry296

07-11-2005, 07:05 PM

Schmidty

07-11-2005, 07:16 PM

Here is my last contribution before I die.

We never learned much from Thomkal analysis that led to his death on the 2nd night. The only person he accused is still alive and not a villager was JeeberD. Therefore:

Unvote neon_chaos
Vote JeeberD

Again, your making a mistake. I didn't support Token Asian Guy on purpose. Just my luck that it happened on a weekend.

This just confuses me further. I thought that if he were a villager, he'd either stick with his vote or go with RA or Heybrad. Instead, he goes with a guy who has NO CHANCE of getting lynched tonight. Maybe I was wrong, and he's just giving us villagers another curveball before he (obviously) gets lynched tonight.

I'm starting to get REALLY paranoid.

henry296

07-11-2005, 07:22 PM

My vote doesn't matter anymore. There are already six votes against me. I don't think there is anything I could say or do that will save me know. Plus, I am not really sure who is the wolf, but I am pretty sure it is heybrad. As for Raiders Army it would just be a guess. I was just trying to continue my speculations before I am dead.

SirFozzie

07-11-2005, 07:25 PM

don't you guys have a whole nother 24 hours? :D

henry296

07-11-2005, 07:27 PM

don't you guys have a whole nother 24 hours? :D

We skipped the voting last night.. I should be dead very seen and the wolves will be one step closer to victory.

KWhit

07-11-2005, 07:32 PM

Here's the final vote:

Henry296 6 (JeeberD, neon_chaos, heybrad, Raiders Army, GWB, ntndeacon)
neon_chaos 1 (Raven)
Raiders Army 1 (Schmidty)
JeeberD 1 (henry296)

The result up in a minute.

:)

KWhit

07-11-2005, 07:39 PM

Day 5

You grab henry296 and lead him to the hanging corner of the Inn. He seems resigned to his fate, sighing as you hoist him up and slip the noose around his neck. "I hope you find the bastards," are his last words. You wait, hopeful that he will turn as he swings, but nothing happens. You have made a mistake once again. You have hanged another innocent Villager.

KWhit

07-11-2005, 07:40 PM

PM your night actions to me, this evening, please.

mrsimperless

07-11-2005, 07:41 PM

Schmidty

07-11-2005, 07:46 PM

I told you guys. No one listened. We are fucked and I am dead tonight.

GWB, RA, or Heybrad is a Werewolf. Maybe all 3, I don't know. You guys need to look at the silver-tongued guys, and the quiet ones. Choose well tommorrow.

KWhit

07-11-2005, 07:48 PM

Alive and Kicking:
Raven
Neon_Chaos
heybrad
George W Bush
JeeberD
ntndeacon
Schmidty
Raiders Army

Gone but not forgotten:
Blackadar - Werewolf, lynched Day 1
Fouts - Villager, lynched Day 2
Thomkal - Villager, killed by Werewolves Night 2
kingfc22 - Sorcerer, lynched, Day 3
mrsimperless - Villager, killed by Werewolves Night 3
Token Asian Guy - Werewolf, lynched Day 4
digamma - Bodyguard, killed by Werewolves Night 4
henry296 - Villager, lynched Day 5

Raiders Army

07-11-2005, 07:59 PM

I'm going to have to do some analysis to figure this out.

Schmidty

07-11-2005, 08:02 PM

I'm going to have to do some analysis to figure this out.

I already did it for you, wolfie.

Raiders Army

07-11-2005, 08:12 PM

This is how the voting has gone so far. Does anyone see a pattern based on voting? I'll try and do an analysis tomorrow.

Day 1

Neon_Chaos: Jeebs
mrsimperless: Blackadar
Raiders Army: Blackadar
kingfc22: Blackadar first, changed to Schmidty
Thomkal: Buzzbee
heybrad: Schmidty
Fouts: Schmidty
henry296: Raiders Army
JeeberD: Schmidty first, changed to Blackadar
Raven: Buzzbee
GWB: Blackadar
TAG: Buzzbee first, changed to Blackadar
Schmidty: Blackadar

Blacky, Wolf, lynched

Day 2:

mrsimperless: Fouts
JeeberD: Fouts
Schmidty: Fouts
Thomkal: kingfc22
Raiders Army: Fouts
Fouts: kingfc22
Raven: kingfc22
henry296: kingfc22
TAG: Fouts
heybrad: kingfc22
ntndeacon: kingfc22
digamma: Fouts
GWB: Fouts
Neon_Chaos: No vote
kingfc22: No vote

Thomkal, Villager, lynched

Day 3:

Raiders Army: kingfc22
Neon_Chaos: Raiders Army first, changed to kingfc22
mrsimperless: kingfc22 first, changed to Neon_Chaos
Schmidty: kingfc22
heybrad: kingfc22
digamma: kingfc22 first, then unvoted, then kingfc22
Raven: kingfc22
kingfc22: heybrad
henry296: Neon_Chaos first, changed to heybrad
TAG: heybrad
GWB: heybrad
JeeberD: kingfc22
Thomkal: No vote
ntndeacon: No vote

kingfc22, sorcerer, lynched

Day 4:

ntndeacon: heybrad first, then TAG
Neon_Chaos: ntndeacon first, heybrad second, then TAG
henry296: heybrad
digamma: Raven first, then TAG
TAG: heybrad
Raven: TAG
Raiders Army: ntndeacon first, then TAG
GWB: TAG
Schmidty: TAG
heybrad: ntndeacon
JeeberD: TAG

TAG, Wolf, lynched

Day 5:

JeeberD: henry296
Neon_Chaos: henry296
henry296: heybrad first, Neon_Chaos second, then JeeberD
Raven: Neon_Chaos
Schmidty: henry296 first, then Raiders Army
heybrad: henry296
Raiders Army: henry296
GWB: henry296
ntndeacon: henry296

henry296, Villager, lynched

Raiders Army

07-11-2005, 08:13 PM

Oops...Day 2 should've been Fouts, villager, lynched.

Raiders Army

07-11-2005, 08:15 PM

Day 2 voting is a wash. Both would've been considered villagers at that point. Day 3 may have some meaning since the kingfc22 votes might indicate those people are wolves.

Days 1, 4, and 5 are the key voting days.

Neon_Chaos

07-11-2005, 08:41 PM

Oh great. Well, we're screwed then. I'm probably going either during the night phase or the day 6 lynching.

Sorry henry. I really thought you were a wolf.

JeeberD

07-11-2005, 08:46 PM

We're not screwed yet, guys. There are most likely six villagers (well, I guess five after tonight) and only two wolves left. We can still do this.

Sorry, Henry... :(

Joe

07-11-2005, 09:04 PM

No, we're not screwed, but this next vote is extremely important. I think we've been saying that the last few votes. We still have the numbers in our favor, but they will be diminishing for sure tonight since there is no bodyguard anymore. Basically we know there are less than 4 (or the game would be over), but that's it.

Joe

07-12-2005, 06:44 AM

I think we generally agree that actions are more important than words at this point (I think it was RA who said that to me yesterday), so by looking at the votes above, heres what I get.

Raiders Army looks suspicious to me because of the day 4 switching from ntndeacon to TAG. He was off my radar otherwise.

Schmidty looks suspicious to me because of his day 1 vote. Voted with TAG for Blackadar after the deadline. Would fit into the idea about wolves being unorganized on day 1. But that's the only thing I can see about him at this point.

Other people would be those still alive who didn't vote for Blackadar (or TAG, but I think most everyone voted for him). Brad didn't vote for either Blackadar or TAG, but TAG was after him so I'm not so sure its not a coincidence, as Henry had the same voting pattern.

And since I keep coming up in Schmidty's posts, I'm just going to point out my voting patterns. If days 1, 4, and 5 are the most important as has been said above: I voted for Blackadar when the vote was 3-3, and could have gone either way. A wolf wouldn't have voted for their own in that situation. I really thought that Blackadar and Fouts were working together at that point. As for my day 4 voting, I wasn't sure whether to believe ntndeacon as the witness or not. I did, and took the chance voting on TAG and turned out to be right. Day 5 I was wrong on Henry, but a lot of us were. Evidence seemed to point to him.

This is my last post before I leave for work, so don't read too much into my silence.

KWhit

07-12-2005, 07:03 AM

Night 5:

You wake with a feeling of dread, feeling as though something terrible has happened in the night. You make your way downstairs and find the group has once again gotten a bit smaller.

JeeberD is missing. You search his room and find his body. This one is more mangled than the others. It appears the wolves took some added enjoyment from this kill. Maybe that is because of the items you find on the desk in the room. A crystal ball. An assortment of herbs and parchments.

It only takes a moment to realize the ramifications. The wolves have killed the Seer. Your task just got harder. Good luck.

KWhit

07-12-2005, 07:06 AM

The Few, The Proud, The Alive:
Raven
Neon_Chaos
heybrad
George W Bush
ntndeacon
Schmidty
Raiders Army

Pushing Up Daisies:
Blackadar - Werewolf, lynched Day 1
Fouts - Villager, lynched Day 2
Thomkal - Villager, killed by Werewolves Night 2
kingfc22 - Sorcerer, lynched, Day 3
mrsimperless - Villager, killed by Werewolves Night 3
Token Asian Guy - Werewolf, lynched Day 4
digamma - Bodyguard, killed by Werewolves Night 4
henry296 - Villager, lynched Day 5
JeeberD - Seer, killed by werewolves Night 5

KWhit

07-12-2005, 07:07 AM

Lynch votes are due by 8pm eastern.

JeeberD

07-12-2005, 08:26 AM

Bah, damn you wolfies!!!

Neon_Chaos

07-12-2005, 09:01 AM

This means JeeberD probably never got a successful view on a werewolf.

Neon_Chaos

07-12-2005, 09:05 AM

Alright. Earlier, I accused henry, JeeberD, Raiders and heybrad as being werewolves.

Two of them were not. Beautiful. I was wrong.

There are at the most 3 wolves left including the Wolf King. And even if there were only 2, a wrongful lynch would have the wolves winning this one. AND If we lynch the Wolf King, we're dead as well.

Bring it on, wolfies... bring it on.

Neon_Chaos

07-12-2005, 11:17 AM

This vote should have been done a long time ago.

Vote heybrad

heybrad

07-12-2005, 11:28 AM

I am saving my vote for later today. I want to see how other voting plays out. I expect to be lynched. I have my suspects and they will be dealt with.

Raven

07-12-2005, 12:06 PM

damn damn damn

heybrad

07-12-2005, 01:08 PM

I would think all of the silence is really benefitting the wolves at this point.

Schmidty

07-12-2005, 01:21 PM

I'd say something, but it didn't do any good yesterday. RA, GWB, and maybe Heybrad. Those are my picks for the wolves. Will it do any good? Probably not.

heybrad

07-12-2005, 01:28 PM

I'm looking at Raiders Army and Neon Chaos. Still hoping for more discussion though.

KWhit

07-12-2005, 01:46 PM

It's very quiet today.

henry296

07-12-2005, 02:02 PM

My death has stunned the villagers.

heybrad

07-12-2005, 02:15 PM

My death has stunned the villagers.

We know we are in deep werewolf poo right now.

Raven

07-12-2005, 02:15 PM

I have to run some errands today, but will be back around 5.

Unless something drastic happens, I'm going to stick with my same vote as last night.

I vote Neon_chaos

Schmidty

07-12-2005, 02:53 PM

I'm switching up a little bit here, but I'm still going with one of my main suspects. The quietest guy of all:

Vote George W Bush

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 04:44 PM

Day 1 list of suspects: (didn't vote for Blacky)

Neon_Chaos: Jeebs
heybrad: Schmidty
Raven: Buzzbee

Day 3 list of suspects: (voted for kingfc22)

Raiders Army: kingfc22
Neon_Chaos: Raiders Army first, changed to kingfc22
Schmidty: kingfc22
heybrad: kingfc22
Raven: kingfc22

Day 4 list of suspects: (didn't vote for TAG)

heybrad: ntndeacon

Day 5 list of suspects: (voted for henry296)

JeeberD: henry296
Neon_Chaos: henry296
heybrad: henry296
Raiders Army: henry296
GWB: henry296
ntndeacon: henry296

On each of these lists is heybrad. On every list except for Day 4, is Neon_Chaos. Remember on Day 4 he switched his vote to TAG when it appeared it would be overwhelming.

I think that those two are my top suspects at this point. Tonight I will

Vote heybrad since he's the most logical choice. Neon_Chaos will get my vote tomorrow night.

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 04:45 PM

Dola, I've been doing an urinalysis program inspection all day and will do so tomorrow as well, so I won't post during work.

heybrad

07-12-2005, 05:20 PM

Vote Raiders Army

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 05:33 PM

Vote Raiders Army
This only confirms what I think...getting a little too close to the truth, eh? Neon_Chaos voted for you, but you didn't vote for him. You give no explanation, but you vote for me. I would hazard a guess that Neon_Chaos would've changed his vote later tonight for someone other than you, since you guys run together in the pack.

You should've been gone a couple days ago. Bye bye.

Joe

07-12-2005, 05:35 PM

With not a lot going on since my post this morning, I will go with my top suspect and

Vote for Raiders Army

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 05:38 PM

WTF? This makes me rethink a little bit. heybrad and GWB post without any reasoning why they vote for me. No reason other than I'm too close to the truth, eh? You have now entered the Axis of Evil, GWB (and how appropriate).

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 05:39 PM

Now that I think about it, I'm gone either way tonight, since I'll either be lynched or the wolves will get me. Good luck to you villagers, and remember the ones who vote for me!

Joe

07-12-2005, 05:47 PM

my reasoning is posted in my earlier post. it's because of the late switch on the day 4 voting, when you were so gung-ho about getting ntndeacon lynched. i think your vote there was to try and save face.

heybrad

07-12-2005, 05:50 PM

Joe

07-12-2005, 05:55 PM

I voted the same time I always vote on weekdays, when I get home from work. Look it up.

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 05:59 PM

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 06:00 PM

I have my suspicions of RA and NeonChaos. I did find it strange that GWB piggybacked with me so quickly.

Look... I'm a villager. Vote for me if you dont think so. The truth will be revealed. Somebody will die.
Anyone who suspects me at this point in the game, I definitely think is a werewolf.

Unvote.....

nahhhhhhh

Stay voted heybrad!

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 06:00 PM

I'm blowin this up. I'm gone tonight either way.

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 06:02 PM

FWIW, heybrad's gambit may be a ruse when he says he "suspects" Neon_Chaos.

In my mind, he's definitely one. GWB or Neon_Chaos or both may be wolves.

Schmidty

07-12-2005, 06:10 PM

Anyone who suspects me at this point in the game, I definitely think is a werewolf.

Unvote.....

nahhhhhhh

Stay voted heybrad!

Everything you do in this game is so......unconvincingly contrived. In fact, I almost feel like that last post was MEANT to get me to change my vote to you. Therefore, I think you are either A) The Duke or B) The Wolf-King. At this point, I think GWB is much more likely to be a wolf, so I feel like sticking with my vote, BUT if you're the Duke, you could really help us by picking off someone who is less suspected (GWB).

I might still vote for you, but I need to think it over a few minutes.

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 06:15 PM

Everything you do in this game is so......unconvincingly contrived. In fact, I almost feel like that last post was MEANT to get me to change my vote to you.

I'm sorry I'm not convincing enough. I definitely don't want you to vote for me. I'd much rather get you to vote for heybrad. But I realize that I'm gone either with the vote or with the wolves tonight.

heybrad

07-12-2005, 06:17 PM

Please vote for me.

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 06:18 PM

And why would you say vote for you unless you're the Wolf King?

heybrad

07-12-2005, 06:19 PM

I'm not the Wolf King.

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 06:20 PM

I'm not the Wolf King.
You still didn't answer the question. And the Wolf King would say he isn't the Wolf King.

Schmidty

07-12-2005, 06:21 PM

And why would you say vote for you unless you're the Wolf King?

The Duke?

I'm sticking with my GWB vote. Hopefully the other villagers will wake up and see him and you (RA) for what you probably are. Otherwise, we're screwed.

heybrad

07-12-2005, 06:21 PM

If you havent figured it out, you're a wolf.

heybrad

07-12-2005, 06:23 PM

Time for me to head home. Somebody should be dead by the time I make it home. If I'm wrong I'm sure I'll be ripped to shreds tonight.

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 06:23 PM

Wolf King or Duke. Maybe there's a reason you haven't been lynched yet. Neon_Chaos might be the better choice....but I have to stick with this one.

Schmidty

07-12-2005, 06:28 PM

Damn it. This is it. We lose tonight unless we villagers unite. I am 99.99999% sure that there are 3 wolves left to our 5, and those wolves are:

1) GWB

2) Raiders Army

3) Heybrad

Come one villagers, unite!!! Don't listen to their "arguments" amongst themselves!!!! They want to spread out our votes, and they want us to vote for the Wolf King - Heybrad. That's why RA did his fake "un-vote........nah" thing. We NEED TO REMOVE RA or GWB first!!!!!!

WAKE UP!!!!

digamma

07-12-2005, 06:31 PM

I'm more confused now that I'm dead than I was when I was in the game--and since then I've had the benefit of some back channel communications.

JeeberD

07-12-2005, 06:34 PM

I think I know what is going on. Almost certain I know...

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 06:51 PM

Schmidty, why are you saying GWB is a wolf? Just because he's silent??

Thomkal

07-12-2005, 06:51 PM

I thought I had it all figured out, it seemed so obvious...until I found out who Jeeber used his Seer visions on. Now I'm sitting in the corner with a dunce hat on. :)

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 06:53 PM

That's why RA did his fake "un-vote........nah" thing. We NEED TO REMOVE RA or GWB first!!!!!!

What does that have to do with anything?

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 06:53 PM

I thought I had it all figured out, it seemed so obvious...until I found out who Jeeber used his Seer visions on. Now I'm sitting in the corner with a dunce hat on. :)
Crap, now I think Schmidty is one of them. What. The. Hell.

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 06:54 PM

I'm actually surprised I haven't been lynched yet.

Thomkal

07-12-2005, 06:54 PM

Nothing should be implied from my comment RA. Relax :)

Raiders Army

07-12-2005, 06:55 PM

At this point, I'm paranoid about everyone.

Raven

07-12-2005, 07:15 PM

I'm fairly certain Brad is the Duke. He has hinted to us before, that's why I've never voted for him. If I switch my vote to Raiders, Raiders goes home. But I'm not sure whether or not Raiders is a wolf, and I don't want to be blamed for him dieing if he is innocent. Swing votes ALWAYS draw suspicion, and in a crucial situation like this, it's guaranteed.

If I don't switch my vote, we currently have a tie, and we have a duel. A duel means Raiders dies either way. If Raiders loses, he dies. If Brad loses the duel, he will obviously kill Raiders.

It doesn't look my there is anything I can do to save Raiders. If Brad is the Wolf king, we are seriously in danger.

What to do, what to do......I'm going to need a few more minutes to think about this one.