Werewolf XV: Round 'Em Up And Hang 'Em!

[Neon_Chaos]

RealDeal - Blade6119, RealDeal, Bek, pennywisesb, SnDvls, ardent enthusiast, RealDeal, jeff061, Passacaglia, henry269, RPI-Fan, Fouts, Mr. Wednesday, saldana

With a unanimous vote. You bind RealDeal's arms and haul him off to jail. You now head off to bed... hopeful that tomorrow will be a better day.

It is now Night 2! Night Actions due at 9AM EDT.

[Poli]

Hide. Wait, that's supposed to be in a PM. My bad.

[dubb93]

Hide. Wait, that's supposed to be in a PM. My bad.

Not sure what was said here, but if you mistakingly posted a PM in THIS thread we can assume only 2 things and one of them ain't very good man....

[Poli]

Actually, I don't think either are very good. :)

[RPI-Fan]

Not sure what was said here, but if you mistakingly posted a PM in THIS thread we can assume only 2 things and one of them ain't very good man....

His post doesn't say "edited" so I don't think he posted anything.

[Blade6119]

His post doesn't say "edited" so I don't think he posted anything.

No, but why is he PM is the question...

[RPI-Fan]

No, but why is he PM is the question...

I think it was just a dumb attempt to be funny.

[Poli]

I resemble that remark.

[Poli]

Resent. I resent that remark.

[kingfc22]

Sorry I wasn't around all day, but I had 3 people call in sick and it made my day a LONG one.

Now back to the game: I think we made a good decision putting the judge in jail and tomorrow's vote should give us some clear direction.

[dubb93]

but I had 3 people call in sick

If we assume there were 3 outlaws to start out and they hit man of loose moral fiber last night that would make 4 right now. Assuming you are one of them that would leave 3 to "call in sick." This isn't looking good for you right now King, I think you slipped up here.
;) ;) ;) :cool:

[Lathum]

I just got home. I obviosly would have voted for realdeal. The lynching tomorrow will tell us everything.

[SackAttack]

RealDeal - Blade6119, RealDeal, Bek, pennywisesb, SnDvls, ardent enthusiast, RealDeal, jeff061, Passacaglia, henry269, RPI-Fan, Fouts, Mr. Wednesday, saldana

With a unanimous vote. You bind RealDeal's arms and haul him off to jail. You now head off to bed... hopeful that tomorrow will be a better day.

It is now Night 2! Night Actions due at 9AM EDT.

Can I choose "Wise fwom your gwave" as a night action?

[Poli]

Why not? :)

[Bek]

Sorry I wasn't around all day, but I had 3 people call in sick and it made my day a LONG one.

Now back to the game: I think we made a good decision putting the judge in jail and tomorrow's vote should give us some clear direction.

looks to me hear that he is just talking about his job...i think you are looking to far into things...maybe its you dubb that we should be looking at... i dont see how you could get this confused with the game

[dubb93]

looks to me hear that he is just talking about his job...i think you are looking to far into things...maybe its you dubb that we should be looking at... i dont see how you could get this confused with the game

Seriously dude, note the sarcastic smileys added to the end. It was a joke.


Prehaps you shouldn't have lynched our seer.

[dubb93]

DOLA

And I seriously hope your post was a joke as well.

[pennywisesb]

Seriously dude, note the sarcastic smileys added to the end. It was a joke.


Prehaps you shouldn't have lynched our seer.

LOL, I really hope Bek realized that was a joke or else we are in a whole world of hurt here.

[Neon_Chaos]

You wake up in the morning... and find that Lathum is missing. You head for his house, and he is not there. You search around the house, and in the back yard, near the drinking post for horses, you find Lathum's body. His neck is slit open, it's pretty clear that he's dead. You search his belongings, and find out that he's nothing more but a normal Villager!

It is now Day 3, Votes are due at 9PM EDT!

1. ardent enthusiast
2. Passacaglia
3. MrBug708
4. saldana
5. dubb93
6. RPI-Fan
7. SackAttack - Private Investigator, killed by Wealthy Baron, Day 1
8. Bek - Wealthy Baron, role revealed Day 1
9. Mr. Wednesday
10. Lathum - Villager, killed by Outlaws, Night 2
11. Blade6119
12. pennywisesb
13. jeff061
14. Fouts
15. kingfc22
16. SnDvls
17. Schmidty
18. henry296
19. RealDeal - In Jail, imprisoned, Day 2<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[Blade6119]

You wake up in the morning... and find that Lathum is missing. You head for his house, and he is not there. You search around the house, and in the back yard, near the drinking post for horses, you find Lathum's body. His neck is slit open, it's pretty clear that he's dead. You search his belongings, and find out that he's nothing more but a normal Villager!

It is now Day 3, Votes are due at 9PM EDT!

1. ardent enthusiast
2. Passacaglia
3. MrBug708
4. saldana
5. dubb93
6. RPI-Fan
7. SackAttack - Private Investigator, killed by Wealthy Baron, Day 1
8. Bek - Wealthy Baron, role revealed Day 1
9. Mr. Wednesday
10. Lathum - Villager, killed by Outlaws, Night 2
11. Blade6119
12. pennywisesb
13. jeff061
14. Fouts
15. kingfc22
16. SnDvls
17. Schmidty
18. henry296
19. RealDeal - In Jail, imprisoned, Day 2<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

What kinds of pansy bandits use knives...and why kill a quiet villager?...whatever, back to square one... :(

[Bek]

i did realize it was a joke...and we arent at square one we are at square two...square one was the judge coming foward...we just have to build off of that today

[Blade6119]

i did realize it was a joke...and we arent at square one we are at square two...square one was the judge coming foward...we just have to build off of that today

How, what does a unanimous vote against one of our secret roles tell us??...please of master of theories, tell me :rolleyes:

[Bek]

becuase it allows us to now kill and prevent the jailbreak scenario which could be huge for the outlaws later on

[Blade6119]

becuase it allows us to now kill and prevent the jailbreak scenario which could be huge for the outlaws later on

i pose this one question to you...who are these bandits...thats where were at square one...we have absoltely 0 leads...and were already on day 3...

[Bek]

point taken

[Blade6119]

Might as well talk about something else since RealDeal is pretty much sacrified.

Last night had two possibilities:

1) Sheriff protected someone.
2) Outlaws found the MoLMF (Man of Loose Moral Fiber)

#2 is slightly more likely than #1. Even the sheriff doesn't know if his bodyguarding was successful... only the outlaws do. With that said, I don't think it is worthwhile at this point to have the sheriff step up... so we'll basically have to let this go for now.

Another thing: When do we want the witness to use his role? I think he should NOT do it tonight, and then tomorrow we'll see how things are going. But with the judge in jail, I'd like to give us villagers a shot of offing a bad guy without the witness revealing himself.

More musing:

-Blade hesistated to have RealDeal step up, and then quickly changed his opinion once RealDeal actually said he was the judge.
-Passacaglia expressed some doubt, too.
-SackAttack, the Investigater, DID initially go against pennwiseb on Day 1. I think if we get stuck at some point, that needs to be considered.
-Mr. W -- a normally talkative and tricky player, has been very quiet and straightforward thus far.

Couple things*in order of how you asked em:

Let the witness decide on his own...dont want to outlaws to have any idea its coming or the might not attack...and dont reveal the role of the witness

Molmf(Man of loose moral fiber) is likely...i highly doubt we got that lucky on protection...which means 4 now...

I didnt hesitate to have real deal step up, i said it sucked for the judge to sacrifice himself(dont act like you dont agree with me on that one)

Pass shared similar feelings, nothing too bad there...id rather look at people who pushed hardest for us to use a lynch day on a villager, effectively giving the bandits another day...thats much more logical then people trying to protect our secret roles

Sack did vote for penny, which means for now, fair or not, he should be our #1...who knows if he switched to be safe or because he didnt hit anyone on night zero(i lean towards the latter)

Mr. w, rpi is a good guy to have, hes active...thats why i dont get the lathum kill...lathum is quiet and doesnt help much...hed be more help to bad then good, and add a suspect...i would have gone after a much more active player who analyzed a lot

thoughts?

[Fouts]

thats why i dont get the lathum kill...lathum is quiet and doesnt help much...hed be more help to bad then good, and add a suspect...i would have gone after a much more active player who analyzed a lot

thoughts?

I agree with this. Killing Lathum, who seems too busy to help us find the outlaws, is a blessing. Not killing RPI, leads me to suspect RPI more.

[RPI-Fan]

You can suspect me all you want, but I'm not an outlaw. I'm not smart enough to pull off the "talkative bad guy" strategy.

I'm off to work, and iwll be back at around 3pm.

Right now, I'm leaning pennywiseb... I'll see what happens when I get home this afternoon, and hopefully we'll have something to go on.

[RPI-Fan]

You can suspect me all you want, but I'm not an outlaw. I'm not smart enough to pull off the "talkative bad guy" strategy.

I'm off to work, and iwll be back at around 3pm.

Right now, I'm leaning pennywiseb... I'll see what happens when I get home this afternoon, and hopefully we'll have something to go on.

Couple more things before I leave:

1) They may have thought that I got protected last night.
2) I may be on the totally wrong track, and we should do the exact opposite of what I am thinking.

[saldana]

just a thought, seeing as how we lost our seer already and have no other leads, depending on how many outlaws there are, plus the MoLMF (who could already be another one), there could be some merit to this.

VOTE BLADE :)

i know lathum meant it as a joke on the first day because of the last Mafia game, but maybe it hit too close to home.

not trying to stir up trouble, but i agree lathum getting whacked kind of confused me too.

[saldana]

dola, off to work, be back around 6et

[Blade6119]

just a thought, seeing as how we lost our seer already and have no other leads, depending on how many outlaws there are, plus the MoLMF (who could already be another one), there could be some merit to this.



i know lathum meant it as a joke on the first day because of the last Mafia game, but maybe it hit too close to home.

not trying to stir up trouble, but i agree lathum getting whacked kind of confused me too.

Two things...that was said before we even had roles yet...if pregame smack talk after he got me killed last game kills me here, then god damn...but if you want to play that game here was the very next post in the thread

I'm in. vote Lathum

Why not analyze that one saladana...thats seems more of an attack on lathum them me getting voted on

Note penny, not accusing you in any way, trying to merely prove a point that pre role smack talk is simply pre role..

[Poli]

I live to see another day. Sweet.

[Lathum]

I agree with this. Killing Lathum, who seems too busy to help us find the outlaws, is a blessing. Not killing RPI, leads me to suspect RPI more.
bummer. How exactly can there be a "lack of help" on the 2nd night?

[pennywisesb]

Well, I'm not an outlaw, I'll tell all of you guys that right now. There really is no evidence at this point, but if you guys are leaning towards me because of what Sack said, he didn't even get a chance to scan someone, so whatever his reasons for voting for me were 100% random at best or because I was his DKBL rival--Come on.

[Poli]

So, did anyone get a scan in last night? :rolleyes:

Anyone want to volunteer for jail time?

[kingfc22]

We suck right now. We are on day 3 and have ZERO leads. We also have 2 of our main roles wasted. :(

I think it is time to spread our vote over 2 or 3 people and see who votes where to give us some kind of lead for day 4.

[SnDvls]

we need to be careful though. If we lynch a twin we lose two people.

[Poli]

Random vote. Nothing more.

Vote Saldana.

Your name is at the top of the page, that's all.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Anyone want to volunteer for jail time?I'd offer, but with the judge in jail, we're not going to be giving him any company, and I've grown rather fond of my neck. :p

[Blade6119]

So, did anyone get a scan in last night? :rolleyes:

Anyone want to volunteer for jail time?

there is no more jaill...lynch=death...have you even been following along?

Vote ardent

he has been nothing but stupid so far with his random comments and has added 0 to the discussion...since were at point 0, might as well knock out people not helping the team

[kingfc22]

Vote Saldana

Let me make this very clear. I am NOT voting with AE!!!!

I was suspicious that saldana wanted to vote off Bek so soon when it was clear that we need to keep our villagers alive.

I may change my vote later, but this is all I have to go on right now.

[Fouts]

I have to leave early today and won't be back before the deadline. Ardent has been making some very strange comments. I'm leaning towards him.

[RealDeal]

I get the jail all to myself. Did I mention the jacuzi here?

[SackAttack]

I get the jail all to myself. Did I mention the jacuzi here?

There's a jacuzzi? :(

[Fouts]

Well, to make it official. I really have no information to this point, other than his weird posts.

Vote Ardent

[Mr. Wednesday]

When has ardent not made weird posts? :p

[Poli]

Heh, I didn't realize only one could be in jail. Lynch = death. Bad choice to lynch me. Trust me.

[Poli]

When has ardent not made weird posts? :p
Valid point. Can anyone think of a time?

[SnDvls]

Vote Saldana

Let me make this very clear. I am NOT voting with AE!!!!

I was suspicious that saldana wanted to vote off Bek so soon when it was clear that we need to keep our villagers alive.

I may change my vote later, but this is all I have to go on right now.


didn't he back off the vote after everyone said what a dumb move it was?
I think it was just a gut wrench reaction to a quick reveal of one's role and use of power that killed a villager. Anyhow it's your choice I just think it's probally the wrong one.

[SackAttack]

Heh, I didn't realize only one could be in jail. Lynch = death. Bad choice to lynch me. Trust me.

It isn't that only one person can be in jail. It's that once the judge is jailed, nobody else can be unless the outlaws spring a jailbreak.

But yes, at this moment, lynch = death.

<--wishing he were in jail and not dead.

[Poli]

That sucks. I'll say it again. It would be bad for the villagers to lynch me.

[SnDvls]

That sucks. I'll say it again. It would be bad for the villagers to lynch me.


are you willing to put up the $20 game again that you are a villager? :D

[Poli]

Absolutely.

[kingfc22]

This is one quiet town.

[Poli]

are you willing to put up the $20 game again that you are a villager? :DActually, that should read I'd bet a year of supporter in Hattrick that I'm NOT a villager.

[RPI-Fan]

Well, I'm not an outlaw, I'll tell all of you guys that right now. There really is no evidence at this point, but if you guys are leaning towards me because of what Sack said, he didn't even get a chance to scan someone, so whatever his reasons for voting for me were 100% random at best or because I was his DKBL rival--Come on.

In the past, scanners have been able to scan on Night 0, haven't they?

Can N_C confirm/deny this?

While ardent has added nothing of consequence to any discussion, I feel like Blade is trying to make a play. Something just gives me a bad feeling about him. Right now, I'd peg Blade/pennywiseb/Passacaglia as Outlaws (and there are probably more). Passacaglia possibly having been found as the MOLMF.

Keep this post in mind if I get lynched or especially if I get killed by the Outlaws tonight.

I think Blade is the one most likely to lead us down the wrong path, though.

Vote Blade (Subject to change!)

[Poli]

Whew. Made an error on that one. :)

[Passacaglia]

In the past, scanners have been able to scan on Night 0, haven't they?

Can N_C confirm/deny this?

While ardent has added nothing of consequence to any discussion, I feel like Blade is trying to make a play. Something just gives me a bad feeling about him. Right now, I'd peg Blade/pennywiseb/Passacaglia as Outlaws (and there are probably more). Passacaglia possibly having been found as the MOLMF.

Keep this post in mind if I get lynched or especially if I get killed by the Outlaws tonight.

I think Blade is the one most likely to lead us down the wrong path, though.

Vote Blade (Subject to change!)

RPI, I'm not an outlaw, or the MOLMF, so to prove your theory wrong, I'll vote with you.
VOTE BLADE

[RPI-Fan]

Also: Still suspicious of Mr. W -- usually by this time he would have provided some truly useful insight.

[RPI-Fan]

RPI, I'm not an outlaw, or the MOLMF, so to prove your theory wrong, I'll vote with you.
VOTE BLADE


Note to everyone: Passacaglia changed his post... It originally read:

I don't even know what the MOLMF is. But to prove you wrong, VOTE BLADE

Not saying I can read anything into that, BUT it is weird to change the main point of it like that.

[Mr. Wednesday]

:confused:

I thought my observation on the dilemma of whether to jail RealDeal was insightful. Beyond that, you haven't paid enough attention to my usual action in the early game, which is to hang out and see which way the wind is blowing. Keep in mind, the last time we played, we were both bad guys, so you were seeing a lot of insight from me that wasn't for public consumption. :p

[Blade6119]

lol, ill pull an ardent..ill bet you guys a year of supporter im not a bad guy...ardent, want to bet me?

[RPI-Fan]

:confused:

I thought my observation on the dilemma of whether to jail RealDeal was insightful. Beyond that, you haven't paid enough attention to my usual action in the early game, which is to hang out and see which way the wind is blowing. Keep in mind, the last time we played, we were both bad guys, so you were seeing a lot of insight from me that wasn't for public consumption. :p

True, true.

Though since I am hoping you are one of my teammates this game, I was wishing we'd get some more helpful info from you. :)

[Mr. Wednesday]

Just as long as ardent doesn't start making offers to buy YPs at inflated prices... he needs the money to pay Lyon's salary! :D

[Mr. Wednesday]

Henry's been awfully quiet.

Vote henry296

[Passacaglia]

Note to everyone: Passacaglia changed his post... It originally read:



Not saying I can read anything into that, BUT it is weird to change the main point of it like that.

Yeah, I did. I looked through the instructions, and found out what you meant!

[Poli]

Anyone have a vote tally?

[saldana]

in response to a couple things about todays posts
1. my post this morning about pre game smack talk....i would have imagined that blade is still bent about the move lathum put on in the last game.
2. my vote for bek was a knee jerk reaction to a bad situation that pissed me off and was compouned my the ardent move in the other game...i quickly backed off and admitted that was stupid

[jeff061]

I don'y really like any of the votes, but I had been mulling over Henry so...

Vote Henry

[Poli]

Like I said, I have nothing against you, your name was simply on top of the webpage at the time.

[Poli]

I should say this, I'll probably change it to try and save myself.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Just an observation, this whole random voting thing doesn't seem to have worked out so well for you in the past.

[saldana]

i am gonna stick with my gut from this morning when i saw lathum was dead...who would want to kill him more than

vote blade

[Poli]

Just an observation, this whole random voting thing doesn't seem to have worked out so well for you in the past.Very true.

[Blade6119]

ardent will switch to me too now and the bandwagon will begin...too predictable...hell, realdeal hasnt even voted yet so theres one more....anyone else want to help hang a villager?

[jeff061]

I think if we were going to use that argument someone else would of died night one.

[SnDvls]

I got nothing

vote MrBug

[RealDeal]

I can't vote. I am in jail.

[pennywisesb]

In the past, scanners have been able to scan on Night 0, haven't they?

Can N_C confirm/deny this?

While ardent has added nothing of consequence to any discussion, I feel like Blade is trying to make a play. Something just gives me a bad feeling about him. Right now, I'd peg Blade/pennywiseb/Passacaglia as Outlaws (and there are probably more). Passacaglia possibly having been found as the MOLMF.

Keep this post in mind if I get lynched or especially if I get killed by the Outlaws tonight.

I think Blade is the one most likely to lead us down the wrong path, though.

Vote Blade (Subject to change!)

Wow. You really nailed us RPI on this one. I'll Vote Blade as well then. If thats what it takes for you to not be suspicious of me.

I'm trying to figure out how you can already be pegging multiple people as outlaws from the information we have.

[Blade6119]

RPI, I'm not an outlaw, or the MOLMF, so to prove your theory wrong, I'll vote with you.
VOTE BLADE

Wow. You really nailed us RPI on this one. I'll Vote Blade as well then. If thats what it takes for you to not be suspicious of me.

LOL, people vote me to clear themselves...i love it..i cant wait to see what you guys do when your back at square one tomorrow

[RPI-Fan]

I've changed my mind for now. I don't think the Outlaws would put up this much of a fight if we were going after the right person.

Unvote Blade

Vote henry

[Poli]

Heading out for two games of flag football on the base. I feel comfortable with my safe level right now. I do hope we nail someone, even if it is completely random.

I've been on the good and bad side of random lately.

[Schmidty]

Man, sorry guys. I've been overwhelmed with life the past few days so I haven't been active. I'm trying to catch up with this and the other WW thread while my daughter is on her nap. For now, I guess I'll:

Vote Blade

[dubb93]

I just don't get what ardent means by he's not a villager and he's been acting funny the whole damn game. I think the spawn game caused a malfunction in his head. Anyway I just don't get his normal werewolf vibe in this game.

Vote Ardent

[RPI-Fan]

Anyone have a vote tally? It may lead me to sway my vote if necessary.

[Poli]

UNVOTE Saldana

VOTE Blade

Self preservation. I see my name up here three times, right?

[Blade6119]

UNVOTE Saldana

VOTE Blade

Self preservation. I see my name up here three times, right?

Wasnt the deadline half an hour ago?

[Poli]

Too late. Anyone got results?

[Poli]

At least we won our ball games.

[Blade6119]

Too late. Anyone got results?

im dead, i think i had 4-5 on me...hope you boys dont fuck up four days in a row now, becuase is was a wee old villager...pathetic that pre game smack talk got me killed

[saldana]

saldana -2- ardent,king
ardent -3-blade, fouts, dubb
blade -4- pass,saldana,penny,schmidty,(ardent switched after the deadline
henry -3-mr w,jeff,rpi
bug -1-sndvls

[SackAttack]

im dead, i think i had 4-5 on me...hope you boys dont fuck up four days in a row now, becuase is was a wee old villager...pathetic that pre game smack talk got me killed

That's okay. We've got the virgins in the afterlife, all they have is one another.

[Blade6119]

That's okay. We've got the virgins in the afterlife, all they have is one another.

Man...you were right....and no britney spears either!!!! God this place is great!!!

[Poli]

saldana -2- ardent,king
ardent -3-blade, fouts, dubb
blade -4- pass,saldana,penny,schmidty,(ardent switched after the deadline
henry -3-mr w,jeff,rpi
bug -1-sndvlsWhew. That was close.

[henry296]

Hi all,

Sorry for not being active today. I was in Boston for an all day meeting and was supposed to be on a 5:30 flight which would have gotten me home around 8 PM. The flight had mechanical problems so we didn't land in Baltimore until 8:45 and just got home.

While, after the deadline, I would have probably voted ardent due to his odd comments. My opinion is that you need to pay attention to the rules and if not, without the other information you become a candidate.

Again today it is like a day 1, there isn't much to go on and you must go on what ever little information is available.

[Blade6119]

Whew. That was close.

Ya, we almost bagged a bad guy..instead were further down the hole

[Neon_Chaos]

Blade6119 - Passacaglia, saldana, Blade6119, Schmidty
ardent enthusiast - Blade6119, Fouts, dubb93
henry296 - Mr. Wednesday, jeff061, RPI-Fan
Saldana - ardent enthusiast, kingfc22
MrBug708 - SnDvls

You gather around Blade6119, any semblance of justice erased from your minds. You quickly bind his hands and legs, and he struggles, trying to convince you that he is not an Outlaw. Noone listens. You string him up, and hang him from the rafters of one of the old houses. He starts kicking, trying to break free.... but he soon succumbs to death.

You look at his belongings, quite interesting. He seems to have some items that other people owned and have gone missing! Is he a thief? Certainly not. Perhaps he couldn't resist it. Blade6119 might have known that he was a villager, but he was indeed the Man Of Loose Moral Fiber!

It is now Night 3! Send in your actions before 9AM EDT!

1. ardent enthusiast
2. Passacaglia
3. MrBug708
4. saldana
5. dubb93
6. RPI-Fan
7. SackAttack - Private Investigator, killed by Wealthy Baron, Day 1
8. Bek - Wealthy Baron, role revealed Day 1
9. Mr. Wednesday
10. Lathum - Villager, killed by Outlaws, Night 2
11. Blade6119 - Man Of Loose Moral Fiber, lynched Day 3
12. pennywisesb
13. jeff061
14. Fouts
15. kingfc22
16. SnDvls
17. Schmidty
18. henry296
19. RealDeal - In Jail, imprisoned, Day 2<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[Poli]

Suuweeet!

[SnDvls]

nice get...so what happened on night 1. Did the sheriff protect?

[RPI-Fan]

Werd! So... does this mean he did, or did not, get discovered by the Outlaws? Or we don't know?

[Neon_Chaos]

Everyone, kindly clear your Inboxes. I'm having a hard time communicating with you. (And you never know, there might be twists and shit.)

[Poli]

There better be or we're going to get our butt handed to us by the outlaws.

[Poli]

Werd! So... does this mean he did, or did not, get discovered by the Outlaws? Or we don't know? I'd assume he didn't know.

[RPI-Fan]

There better be or we're going to get our butt handed to us by the outlaws.

Huh? You have made zero posts in this thread with any relavance or insight.

[Poli]

Huh? You have made zero posts in this thread with any relavance or insight.
Here's a thought. I don't know who the outlaws are. I'm saying we could use a twist for the good guys, or we're all going to be sucking hindtit.

That is, unless you are an outlaw.

[RPI-Fan]

Here's a thought. I don't know who the outlaws are. I'm saying we could use a twist for the good guys, or we're all going to be sucking hindtit.

That is, unless you are an outlaw.

No, we're not going to be "sucking hindtit". We have already made some very sound plays, caught a little bit of a break last night, and I think with some smart analysis we can wrap this game up with ease, without any help from special twists.

I'm frustrated by ardent's poor attitude and lack of effort to find the outlaws. My vote will be going to him tomorrow morning if I'm still alive, and we don't have any really strong evidence.

His attitude simply sucks, or he is an outlaw. Either way, he should go home.

[Poli]

Right. Whatever.

[Poli]

I think I might be the only one vocal about it. We're fighting an uphill battle without our seer. To say most of us are in a little despair isn't a lie.

[RPI-Fan]

I think I might be the only one vocal about it. We're fighting an uphill battle without our seer. To say most of us are in a little despair isn't a lie.

Right, but how does repeatedly saying "I'll make a random vote because I have nothing to go on" help us at all. Don't you think an ATTEMPT at some helpful analysis could prove fruitful?

[RPI-Fan]

Dola...

Posts like the ones you've made make the game easy for the bad guys... based on the fact that I was one last game, when everyone kept acting frustrated like they were in an unfair game it made it easy to lay low. We MUST stir the pot even if it means we lose an extra guy or two in the short-term. We need everyone talking because without that, and only at that time, will we be in a situation where despair is an appropriate reaction.

[Poli]

Gotcha. I'll get my head back in the game. Don't vote me out. :)

[Passacaglia]

I tolda ya that I wasn't the MILF, RPI!

[Poli]

:)

[pennywisesb]

That was an awesome result for our lynch vote. We really needed something like that to get this ship righted! Good job guys.

[RPI-Fan]

Let's look at what happened yesterday:

1. Lathum dies.
2. Blade and Bek bicker -- turns out both are (essentially) villagers
3. Blade also has doubts on pennywise.
4. Fouts suspects me, and then votes ardent without a ton of reasoning -- weird turnaround.
5. kingfc & jeff chime in with votes but no commentary -- RED FLAG IN MY BOOK
6. Blade dies -- we lynched a villager, but it turns out to be a good thing for us. KEY POINT -- SHERIFF DID MAKE A PROTECT ON NIGHT 1 -- can someone go through and check to see who might have deserved protection? I have Geotech. Eng. HW to do and am very tired tonight (6am-6pm workday) and don't feel like going back through the thread right now.

So, here is my thinking:

1. jeff, kingfc, and Fouts are very suspicious to me (totally 180 from earlier)
2. A witness coming forward wouldn't be such a bad thing right now, IMO.

[Poli]

Gah. You reminded me of my paper. You suck. :)

[Mr. Wednesday]

We were damn lucky to get the MOLMF with what was little more than a random vote, although you never know if the outlaws would have actually made an attempt on Blade (e.g. when I've been a bad guy in the past, I've tended to let him go as it's nice to have a lightning rod around, for situations exactly like this one...).

We really need to pick off an outlaw to get some traction here, though... so far, we're still playing in the dark. Notwithstanding some dark pronouncements about people, there's no real indication that we've ever had an outlaw up on the block. I gotta confess, I'm not going to be voting at random tomorrow (assuming I survive the night... not necessarily a safe assumption considering ardent had me whacked early in one of these...), but it won't be all that far from it.

[jeff061]

kingfc & jeff chime in with votes but no commentary -- RED FLAG IN MY BOOK

Unlike you, I'm not going to pretend I know something when I don't have a clue in the world. I was clueless yesterday, but gut feelings about Blade and Ardent were they were good, Henry I was neutral on.

[Neon_Chaos]

(sorry for the lateness... had to do stuff.)

You all wake up, you heard the lone gunshot last night. What could have happened? As you walk out, you see ardent_enthusiast's body sprawled in front of his house. One bullet wound right between the eyes. You begin to enter his house and search for his things, when you notice that pennywisesb is also missing! You look for him, and you find him in his bed, his face white as a ghost. He died in his sleep? Ardent_Enthusiast was a Psychic Gypsy Twin! pennywisesb was a Psychic Gypsy Twin!

It is now Day 4, Vote Deadline is at 9PM EDT!

1. ardent enthusiast - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed by Outlaws Night 3
2. Passacaglia
3. MrBug708
4. saldana
5. dubb93
6. RPI-Fan
7. SackAttack - Private Investigator, killed by Wealthy Baron, Day 1
8. Bek - Wealthy Baron, role revealed Day 1
9. Mr. Wednesday
10. Lathum - Villager, killed by Outlaws, Night 2
11. Blade6119 - Man Of Loose Moral Fiber, lynched Day 3
12. pennywisesb - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed via psychic connection with ardent enthusiast, Night 3
13. jeff061
14. Fouts
15. kingfc22
16. SnDvls
17. Schmidty
18. henry296
19. RealDeal - In Jail, imprisoned, Day 2

[SnDvls]

ouch. that's gonna hurt we lost two more villagers. hopefully the witness will give us something today.

[Passacaglia]

Wow. We suck at this.

[jeff061]

Right now, I'd peg Blade/pennywiseb/Passacaglia as Outlaws

hmmm, 0/2 so far RPI, taking into consideration no one but Neon knew Blade's role.

[jeff061]

Ardent should of said nothing and risk getting lynched rather than paint a giant bullseye on his forehead. If he had survived the night he would of been my far and away #1 choice.

[Passacaglia]

hmmm, 0/2 so far RPI, taking into consideration no one but Neon knew Blade's role.

Yeah, RPI -- I just re-read the rules again, and the MOLMF doesn't even know about being the MOLMF until it's triggered. So no reason to suspect me as being the MOLMF other than pure bunk.

[SnDvls]

we have to nail an outlaw today period. we have between 1 to 3 days depending on the # of outlaws and this game is over. Hopefully our witness saw something last night because we need him big time now.

[SackAttack]

You could always have your seer sca---oh, wait.

Never mind. :p

[Poli]

Well, at least the OUTLAWS were listening when I said you didn't want to lynch me.

[jeff061]

Well it's the reason I didn't vote for you :). But like I said, if the Outlaws hadn't of killed you I'd consider you my #1 suspect. Admitting you have an important role is certain death in my eyes, unless you can back it with a role discovery(if you are a seer) or if it's an end game move.

[jeff061]

That said, a sheriff should of been guarding you. If there was no kill I'd be suspicious, but not looking for a lynch yet.

[RPI-Fan]

Vote dubb92

I'm just throwing this out there... he has been a little suspicious with his actions thus far.

BTW, here are the voting results from yesterday:

Blade6119 - Passacaglia, saldana, Blade6119, Schmidty
ardent enthusiast - Blade6119, Fouts, dubb93
henry296 - Mr. Wednesday, jeff061, RPI-Fan
Saldana - ardent enthusiast, kingfc22
MrBug708 - SnDvls

I'm guessing the (3?) Outlaws spread their votes among three different players.

Passacaglia is clear in my book... That leaves saldana & Schmidty in voting for Blade.

Among the voters for ardent, I think either Fouts or dubb92 could be Outlaws -- or both, even. I'm more inclined to think dubb -- for what reason, I'm not totally sure.

In the henry voters, there is Mr. W & jeff... not sure at all, here. I'd say jeff just because he's been so damn quiet, and got very defensive recently.

kingfc's vote for saldana is weird, but I don't know what to think of it -- same with SnDevils.

So here is my most likely guess: saldana/Schmidty, Fouts/dubb92, Mr. W/jeff -- my picks are Schmidty, dubb, and jeff right now.

I know I have been totally wrong so far, but I'm really trying to actually analyze the situation here instead of just expressing how helpless it might be.

Thoughts?

[jeff061]

I was quiet, and figured someone would mention that(and still may) since I usually post more, but I don't think I've really gotten defensive.

I just wanted to drill in that you shouldn't seem so confident so early in the game when you have no idea, all that does is start incorrect bandwagons with little to no discussion and nothing to go on afterwards. This is not aimed at your last post at all.

On the bright side if I ever do happen to get lynched it won't cost us a special role :).

[Fouts]

If I were an outlaw, I would have killed RPI for his analysis. WHY wasn't he killed? Ardent was a suspicious character that may have been lynched tomorrow.

[jeff061]

Because Ardent was hinting at a special role and RPI was throwing suspicions on innocent people. I would of killed Ardent.

[Fouts]

Blade6119 - Passacaglia, saldana, Blade6119, Schmidty
ardent enthusiast - Blade6119, Fouts, dubb93
henry296 - Mr. Wednesday, jeff061, RPI-Fan
Saldana - ardent enthusiast, kingfc22
MrBug708 - SnDvls


SOmething is wrong with this list. Blade cannot vote twice and surely cannot be the deciding vote to kill himself.

[Fouts]

Looks like it should be pennywise voting for blade instead of himself.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I'm willing to take a shot at dubb.

Vote dubb93

[henry296]

It still isn't to bad for the villagers. We have a 10-3 advantage.

I think the outlaws are trying to lay low a little bit. I have my suspicions about saldana for his quick vote against bek. Then SunDvls came out with some quick support for saldana and then votes randomly for Bug who really hasn't said much. If they are both outlaws their comments make sense.

Right now:

vote saldana

[Passacaglia]

I'm looking at one of Fouts and dubb, too. And since Fouts is trying to out RPI, I'm going to:

Vote Fouts

[Fouts]

I'm looking at one of Fouts and dubb, too. And since Fouts is trying to out RPI, I'm going to:

Vote Fouts

Thanks for making this easy. Knowing that I'm a villager and the outlaws are looking for easy targets...

Vote Passacaglia

[kingfc22]

Fouts has voted for Bek and for AE - both who were good guys

[Fouts]

King has voted for jeff and saldana. Whats your point? I didn't know they were good guys. Are your two votes for good guys?

[kingfc22]

I'm just saying that AE pretty much gave it away that he was a villager and you still voted for him.

[Fouts]

If you read the timing of my posts, I had to go for the day and he was acting like a nutcase. He posted his hint posts after I was gone and I totally missed them when I got back.

[SnDvls]

It still isn't to bad for the villagers. We have a 10-3 advantage.

I think the outlaws are trying to lay low a little bit. I have my suspicions about saldana for his quick vote against bek. Then SunDvls came out with some quick support for saldana and then votes randomly for Bug who really hasn't said much. If they are both outlaws their comments make sense.

Right now:

vote saldana


hold the train there buddy. All I said was that it was pretty obvious why he did what he did. Heck even Bek voted for himself right away. Second, wasn't everyone's vote pretty random? Unless you have some inside info you want to share you better quickly back up some of those claims. The last person who threw out claims like yours ended up wrong. Look at my first vote for you, becasue of your name. And who was your second vote for? and why?

I'll research it and let you know.

[SnDvls]

I'll research it and let you know.

ah I see you said you were in Boston and didn't vote. That just as well could be fishy. ;)

[SnDvls]

It still isn't to bad for the villagers. We have a 10-3 advantage.



dola -

this is a big assumption too. as I stated in a prior post.
the outlaws only have to get a 1-1 ratio of non-jailed/lynched villagers.
If we assume as you say there were 3 to start it's 3-9 right now. Let's assume we don't get one tonight unless someone comes forward with some info fast then tomorrow day it's 3-7.
now let's assume it started with 5 outlaws. now it's 5-7....it could all be over tonight!

be careful with assumptions it got lots of us killed in the spawn game.

[henry296]

dola -

this is a big assumption too. as I stated in a prior post.
the outlaws only have to get a 1-1 ratio of non-jailed/lynched villagers.
If we assume as you say there were 3 to start it's 3-9 right now. Let's assume we don't get one tonight unless someone comes forward with some info fast then tomorrow day it's 3-7.
now let's assume it started with 5 outlaws. now it's 5-7....it could all be over tonight!

be careful with assumptions it got lots of us killed in the spawn game.

One clarification s that bek is still alive even though he has a comment next to his name. Even when I was typing my post I originally had 9 but we do have 10.

[SnDvls]

True, but he needs to be out of jail for him to be counted to help us.

[RPI-Fan]

Unvote dubb

Vote henry

I don't _at all_ like that he kind of "knew" there were 3 outlaws... think that might be a slip, and is good a reason as any for me to vote him.

[SnDvls]

Unvote dubb

Vote henry

I don't _at all_ like that he kind of "knew" there were 3 outlaws... think that might be a slip, and is good a reason as any for me to vote him.

Vote dubb92

I'm just throwing this out there... he has been a little suspicious with his actions thus far.

BTW, here are the voting results from yesterday:



I'm guessing the (3?) Outlaws spread their votes among three different players.

Passacaglia is clear in my book... That leaves saldana & Schmidty in voting for Blade.

Among the voters for ardent, I think either Fouts or dubb92 could be Outlaws -- or both, even. I'm more inclined to think dubb -- for what reason, I'm not totally sure.

In the henry voters, there is Mr. W & jeff... not sure at all, here. I'd say jeff just because he's been so damn quiet, and got very defensive recently.

kingfc's vote for saldana is weird, but I don't know what to think of it -- same with SnDevils.

So here is my most likely guess: saldana/Schmidty, Fouts/dubb92, Mr. W/jeff -- my picks are Schmidty, dubb, and jeff right now.

I know I have been totally wrong so far, but I'm really trying to actually analyze the situation here instead of just expressing how helpless it might be.

Thoughts?

so where does this leave you in your analysis now?

[RPI-Fan]

so where does this leave you in your analysis now?

Undirected, as I'm guessing most of your guys' are as well.

[SnDvls]

Undirected, as I'm guessing most of your guys' are as well.


LOL
that's not what I was hoping for, but I feel your confusion :confused:

anyhow I think you're clean. henry has jumped up on my radar, partly for accusing me. I'm going to have to think hard about this one.

[jeff061]

Vote Henry

Voted for him yesterday. Don't see a reason not to today.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Fouts has voted for Bek and for AE - both who were good guysWhen all we've ever gotten are good guys, how can you hold it against someone for voting against them? We don't know what the alternatives were. That's why it's imperative that we finally get an outlaw so that we stand a chance of figuring something useful out of the voting data.

[saldana]

been at work all day...can we have any worse luck?!

henry, how many times to i have to explain the bek thing on day one? it was a just a quick reaction in anger that i undid as soon as i stepped back. seeing as how that is all you seem to want to talk about, throwing suspicion on me

vote henry

[saldana]

dola, i will probably be out the rest of the night until after the vote, i have some real life child care issues going on right now and wont really be around until late tonight...just fyi'ing so my silence isnt misconstrued.

[pennywisesb]

To this point the villagers luck has been horrendous. Good luck to the villagers! That was my first time being killed in a WW game.

[jeff061]

And what a lame way to go.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Wow, we're short of votes.

It doesn't look like the dubb vote is going anywhere, so I'm going to unvote dubb93.

I need a new target, and pretty soon as I'll be leaving school within the next half hour.

[SnDvls]

Okay time to leave work and head home so again I have nothing to go on, but gut.

Vote henry

I might be wrong, but at least I tried.

[dubb93]

Yea, lets atleast take a shot @ Henry tonight. Don't have much on him other than a gut feeling tho.

Vote Henry

[Mr. Wednesday]

Yuk. I've got RPI's analysis (which actually implicates me in the bargain...), Henry's reason for voting saldana, or Henry himself who I voted for yesterday without any real conviction. After a mental roll of the dice, I'll change things up and vote saldana.

[kingfc22]

Vote Dubb

I'm not voting for henry because I don't see us gaining any information if we concentrate all our votes on one target.

[SnDvls]

unvote Henry

too many people jumping on him. I guess I'll throw out my vote from yesterday then

vote Bug

[Schmidty]

Vote Dubb

I'm not voting for henry because I don't see us gaining any information if we concentrate all our votes on one target.

I think that's a good point. :)

Vote Kingfc22

[RPI-Fan]

dubb92 - RPI, Mr. W, kingfc
saldana - henry
Fouts - Pass
Pass - Fouts
henry - RPI, jeff, saldana, SnDvls, dubb92
MrBug - SnDvls

As soon as I voted for henry, other people jumped on. I don't liek that at all...

Unvote henry

Vote dubb93

[jeff061]

We don't want to much of a spread. 2-3 is much better than 5-6.

All these single votes are helpless, and a little suspicious.

[RPI-Fan]

Anyone know what the tiebreaking procedure is? Does Bek get to choose?

[SnDvls]

We don't want to much of a spread. 2-3 is much better than 5-6.

All these single votes are helpless, and a little suspicious.


I just didn't want to be acused of bandwagoning after all the votes on henry. I'll move it to someone else if you feel that is warented

[SnDvls]

unvote Bug
Vote Fouts

not that I think he's bad, but Jeff says I need to be on someone else and not a single vote.

[jeff061]

Vote who you want to vote on, but do the people saying they should spread the votes for analyzing think having 3-4 guys with 1 vote is helpful?

[kingfc22]

Vote who you want to vote on, but do the people saying they should spread the votes for analyzing think having 3-4 guys with 1 vote is helpful?
Not at all. I would prefer a 2 person runoff.

[Neon_Chaos]

henry296 - jeff061, saldana, dubb93
dubb93 - kingfc22, RPI-Fan
saldana - henry296, Mr. Wednesday
Fouts - Passacaglia, SnDvls
Passacaglia - Fouts
Kingfc22 - Schmidty

You gather around henry296, calling him out. "You Outlaw! You're going to die NOW!" You tie his arms and legs, and then you start pushing him around, towards the gallows. You tie a noose tightly around his neck, and then let the rope do its work. He struggles for a while, until his entire body slumps dead.

You rummage through his items. Without a doubt, henry296 was a Villager!

It is now Night 4! Actions are due at 9AM EDT!

1. ardent enthusiast - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed by Outlaws Night 3
2. Passacaglia
3. MrBug708
4. saldana
5. dubb93
6. RPI-Fan
7. SackAttack - Private Investigator, killed by Wealthy Baron, Day 1
8. Bek - Wealthy Baron, role revealed Day 1
9. Mr. Wednesday
10. Lathum - Villager, killed by Outlaws, Night 2
11. Blade6119 - Man Of Loose Moral Fiber, lynched Day 3
12. pennywisesb - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed via psychic connection with ardent enthusiast, Night 3
13. jeff061
14. Fouts
15. kingfc22
16. SnDvls
17. Schmidty
18. henry296 - Villager, lynched Day 4
19. RealDeal - In Jail, imprisoned, Day 2<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[Neon_Chaos]

:)

[jeff061]

Mercy?

[Neon_Chaos]

Oh, by the way, since he'll be out for the next couple of days...

MrBug708 will be replaced by hoopsfan.

[SnDvls]

damn

[kingfc22]

I'm going after dubb and saldana. Who wants to join me?

[Poli]

Pinch hitting:)

[hoopsguy]

Hoopsfan? Who is that?

Looks like the villagers have rocked in this game. I've been reading along, but need to do some catching up now that I'm in the game.

[dubb93]

I'm going after dubb and saldana. Who wants to join me?

Whatever :rolleyes: , I'll just go after you while I'm at it.

[RPI-Fan]

I'm much more confident now in dubb being mafia. If I don't make it through the night I wanted to say that I think he's the guy to go after.

[dubb93]

I'm much more confident now in dubb being mafia. If I don't make it through the night I wanted to say that I think he's the guy to go after.

Its always easy to say "if I don't make it through the night...blah blah blah" when you are the one making the decisions on who to kill. Keep frameing me here guys.

[SackAttack]

I'm much more confident now in dubb being mafia. If I don't make it through the night I wanted to say that I think he's the guy to go after.

Shit, there's Outlaws AND Mafia in this game?

You guys are so fucked.

There's probably a werewolf, too...

:D

[kingfc22]

Shit, there's Outlaws AND Mafia in this game?

You guys are so fucked.

There's probably a werewolf, too...

:D
Hmmmmmm. Neon did have a game where it was supposed to be mafia vs. villagers and we found out during the game that their were wolves as well.

Did RPI just slip up?

[SackAttack]

Hmmmmmm. Neon did have a game where it was supposed to be mafia vs. villagers and we found out during the game that their were wolves as well.

Did RPI just slip up?

No. There are no hidden roles this time around. I just couldn't resist the chance to take a shot since I got friggin' duked on Night One. :p

[dubb93]

Hmmmmmm. Neon did have a game where it was supposed to be mafia vs. villagers and we found out during the game that their were wolves as well.

Did RPI just slip up?

Did your outlaw buddy just support you in the thread without PMing you for permission first? Did you both just slip up? So many questions, no answers right now.

[RPI-Fan]

Hmmmmmm. Neon did have a game where it was supposed to be mafia vs. villagers and we found out during the game that their were wolves as well.

Did RPI just slip up?

Yes, I did slip in that I made a mistake. mafia = outlaw... either way, I think dubb is a bad guy.

[Neon_Chaos]

You all sleep through the night. But two gunshots pierce through the silence of the blanket of darkness. You shudder to think what could have happened.

You wake up. You look around. Noone is dead!

It is now Day 5! Votes are due at 9PM EDT!

1. ardent enthusiast - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed by Outlaws Night 3
2. Passacaglia
3. hoopsguy
4. saldana
5. dubb93
6. RPI-Fan
7. SackAttack - Private Investigator, killed by Wealthy Baron, Day 1
8. Bek - Wealthy Baron, role revealed Day 1
9. Mr. Wednesday
10. Lathum - Villager, killed by Outlaws, Night 2
11. Blade6119 - Man Of Loose Moral Fiber, lynched Day 3
12. pennywisesb - Psychic Gypsy Twin, killed via psychic connection with ardent enthusiast, Night 3
13. jeff061
14. Fouts
15. kingfc22
16. SnDvls
17. Schmidty
18. henry296 - Villager, lynched Day 4
19. RealDeal - In Jail, imprisoned, Day 2<!-- / message --><!-- sig --><!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[RPI-Fan]

Woot, go Sheriff!

[SnDvls]

finally a break for the villagers

[hoopsguy]

Bek, have you voted the last two days? Since you are the only confirmed good at this point you have the opportunity to wield some influence here.

Very clutch performance by the sheriff.

[Bek]

I have not voted the last few days...sry about that...ive had to spend some time away and sort some things out in the real world...i finished up what i had to tonight and now am back on here...we were lucky to have the sheriff pick the right guy to protect...if we believe he saved someone night one as well then "way to go sheriff, keep doing what you are doing"...as for who to look at know im not sure...i'd have to go back through and re-read some posts

[Bek]

dola-

do we know it was the sheriff or can the outlaws fire random gunshots into the air to scare us?

[Fouts]

Interesting development. I think the biggest target right now is RPI. I can't see the sheriff getting that lucky on anyone else (what are the odds). So, I am throwing my support behind RPI.

[Bek]

sry this is kinda old but i was re-reading posts and this popped out

Anyone know what the tiebreaking procedure is? Does Bek get to choose?

Do you really want me to choose if there is a tiebreak?...i think not after what happened on day one :) :) :) :) :)

[RPI-Fan]

Tomorrow is another one of those days for me... won't be back til 4ish (departing home @ 5am).

Vote dubb

I suspected him yesterday; I suspect him even more today.

[RPI-Fan]

Also, at this point in the game I think there's another move that might be worthwhile... Use the witness, protect him that same night and give him another chance to witness. Problem is, of course, how do we know who is and isn't the witness. But we're so late into the game, that if we get one Outlaw on our own, and the witness provides us another, it'd be hard for us to lose I think.

[SackAttack]

sry this is kinda old but i was re-reading posts and this popped out



Do you really want me to choose if there is a tiebreak?...i think not after what happened on day one :) :) :) :) :)
:mad:

[kingfc22]

YAY!! Nobody died.

Vote Dubb

IMO, it's between him and saldana.

[Fouts]

Like I said, I support RPI and his analysis has been good so far. I have no other leads.

Vote Dubb

[Bek]

I plan to be on later...closer to the vote...and im not going to jump on the Dubb bandwagon yet...i wanna see what goes down during most of the day before i come to any conclusions

[saldana]

ok, to remove 2 sets of doubt at one time, the one on whether im a good guy and the one on is dubb a bad guy.....i am the witness...i used my role last night, and I saw dubb approaching RPI-fan's house. he turned and ran when the shots rang out, but i know it was him.

good call sherrif

vote dubb

[saldana]

dola, off to work, be back 6pmish

[jeff061]

vote Dubb

The person who can verify Saldana, I'd keep quiet unless you did not guard RPI-Fan's house last night.

[henry296]

Good luck villagers. Unfortunately, I spent the night at the doctor/hospital with my fiancee and was unable to respond to the accusations.

[Poli]

Hope all is well.

[henry296]

Hope all is well.

Thanks ardent. She was very dehydrated after fighting a stomach flu for the past 3 days. A bunch of IV fluids later and doing better.

[hoopsguy]

Just a question for the villagers - do we think we are down to a "one bad lynch and we lose" scenario right now?

If so, then this is a perfect time for Saldana to be making a play right now.

Also, there seems to be a pretty high level of trust for RPI-Fan as a villager, based on his analysis. But it is hard to put much faith in anyone's analysis when we have yet to get a single outlaw. So is there another reason that I'm missing that people are sold on RPI as a good guy in this game?

Sorry if I'm asking stuff that should have been apparent to everyone else by now. But after re-reading the threads last night I just don't find that I'm necessarily on the same page as the masses right now. In fact, if I was going to pick two people that I was suspicious of before the reveals today it would be RPI and Jeff. But it is hard to make any particularly strong arguments for anyone based on how successful the outlaws have been at evading us to this point.

I'll be back on later to see if a vote for Dubb is the inevitable result of today's reveal. I expect it will be, but I'm curious if other people share my concern that we are about to lose on one wrongful lynching.

[jeff061]

If that's the case I would expect the witness to speak up(and be guarded tonight). If he doesn't I feel pretty safe with Dubb.

If Saldana is lying and the witness speaks up, then Saldana dies tonight, then the witness uses his ability tonight and tomorrow we kill another outlaw. Seems like a decent sized risk.

[SnDvls]

Some very interesting developments today.

[dubb93]

I'd watch out for this bandwagon b/c I am in fact the Witness. I hung out last night and saw Saldana creaping in the shadows with a knife. He went inside RPI-Fan's(obviously clear as well) house and I heard gunshots. Saldana then ran outside the house. He is an outlaw.

Vote Saldana

[dubb93]

And Saldana is lying. Via my vole when I use my power it alerts the outlaw. Check earlier in the thread. I was the first to ask when the witness should use his power now that the seer(Sackattack) is dead.

[SackAttack]

And Saldana is lying. Via my vole when I use my power it alerts the outlaw. Check earlier in the thread. I was the first to ask when the witness should use his power now that the seer(Sackattack) is dead.

I'm feeling better!

[dubb93]

And the reason I have been laying low is to fly under the radar so I would still be around when I needed this role. If the seer had been around I would have been my usually big mouth self the entire game. Voting me kills the witness and buys the outlaws another day guys.

[SnDvls]

I'd watch out for this bandwagon b/c I am in fact the Witness. I hung out last night and saw Saldana creaping in the shadows with a knife. He went inside RPI-Fan's(obviously clear as well) house and I heard gunshots. Saldana then ran outside the house. He is an outlaw.

Vote Saldana

And Saldana is lying. Via my vole when I use my power it alerts the outlaw. Check earlier in the thread. I was the first to ask when the witness should use his power now that the seer(Sackattack) is dead.

If both of these are the case then whom of the other 4 people voting for you (since both of you cleard RPI) are outlaws? Or are you claiming all 4 of them plus Saldana?

Any of the now accused by Dubb want to fess up as being an outlaw? :D

[jeff061]

Hmm, didn't think of the fact the outlaws find out who the witness is, that makes things more tricky.

I'm leaning towards believing Dubb though...

[dubb93]

If both of these are the case then whom of the other 4 people voting for you (since both of you cleard RPI) are outlaws? Or are you claiming all 4 of them plus Saldana?

Any of the now accused by Dubb want to fess up as being an outlaw? :D

I never accused any of the other people voting for me to be outlaws except Saldana b/c I just don't know. I said to watch out for the bandwagon b/c I am the witness. You bandwagon me we lose a day and the witness when one outlaw is sitting in plain sight right now(Saldana).

As for you reaching at strings I can assure you after we kill Saldana today you are the next on my list. Don't change my words and quit trying to save Saldana. He is an outlaw.

[dubb93]

As for my role I have been sent nothing saying it is a 1 time only action(either in PM or in the role description), only that the outlaws will learn of my identity(which Saldana did). Prehaps I can get another one tonight if I survive.

[SnDvls]

I never accused any of the other people voting for me to be outlaws except Saldana b/c I just don't know. I said to watch out for the bandwagon b/c I am the witness. You bandwagon me we lose a day and the witness when one outlaw is sitting in plain sight right now(Saldana).

As for you reaching at strings I can assure you after we kill Saldana today you are the next on my list. Don't change my words and quit trying to save Saldana. He is an outlaw.


Now who's twisting words? I'll I said was by you claiming to be the witness with 5 votes looked weird. I'm not trying to save anyone just trying to figure out where both or you are coming from. You've got strong votes against you without Saladna from RPI, Fouts, & Jeff. Looks like you might be reaching at strings to save yourself that is all.

EDIT: Never did I say the other's were outlaws, just asked you a question which one's did you think were? some people take these games way too seriously.

[jeff061]

Not strong from me, I'm waiting from more from Saldana, but I'm considering changing quite strongly. If you were an outlaw and got a PM saying Dubb witnessed you attack, what's the most obvious thing you'd do?

I don't think this should be written off.

[SnDvls]

not writing it off either. I'm looking at the players I "trust" right now. RPI and Jeff, they both have a vote on Dubb right now if that changes sure I'll change, I'm just playing devil's advocate and looking at both sides. We could really use the seer role right now, but we don't have it all we have is 2 people (tops on a lot of people's lists) pointing fingers.

[SnDvls]

dola -
my term strong is how well I believe you. and by looking at other posts some of them too.

[jeff061]

Well, I'm really a non vote now so I guess I should make it official. I only voted because I didn't realize the outlaws were notified about the witness.

unvote dubb

[dubb93]

Now who's twisting words? I'll I said was by you claiming to be the witness with 5 votes looked weird. I'm not trying to save anyone just trying to figure out where both or you are coming from. You've got strong votes against you without Saladna from RPI, Fouts, & Jeff. Looks like you might be reaching at strings to save yourself that is all.

That would be a bad position to take. RPI and crew have had it out for me for a while now. Just look at yesterday and today with their reactions and posts. What have I done to deserve it? Buried my vote on day 1 b/c I don't like lynching anyone there. Usually get an innocent(which Bek was), kept quiet most of the night and on day 2 voted Ardent. I mean seriously, compare his antics this game to other ones. He was being freakin weird. Then he comes out and bets money he isn't a normal villager. The dude was just strange the entire game. Then last night was I put in a position where I had to defend myself. I figured all the attention and suspecion on me was actually a good thing since it all but guaranteed I would make it through the night.

As for me being the one twisting words take one look at what you posted....

If both of these are the case then whom of the other 4 people voting for you (since both of you cleard RPI) are outlaws? Or are you claiming all 4 of them plus Saldana?

Any of the now accused by Dubb want to fess up as being an outlaw?

That was in response to these posts...

I'd watch out for this bandwagon b/c I am in fact the Witness. I hung out last night and saw Saldana creaping in the shadows with a knife. He went inside RPI-Fan's(obviously clear as well) house and I heard gunshots. Saldana then ran outside the house. He is an outlaw.

Vote Saldana


Quote:
Originally Posted by dubb93
And Saldana is lying. Via my vole when I use my power it alerts the outlaw. Check earlier in the thread. I was the first to ask when the witness should use his power now that the seer(Sackattack) is dead.

How do these contradict each other? They are both the truth, in order for these to be true no one else that has voted for me so far HAS to be an outlaw except Saldana. You either tried to twist my words or were being a big time smart ass, either way the village needs your support or Saldana is going to be around for another night. These are the problems we run into in this game when 3 people vote without any evidence and b/f any new evidence can be presented.

[SnDvls]

I see your point. sorry, it just struck me as odd with who had voted you and all. I'll just sit back and watch for a bit.

[SnDvls]

dola=

I guess I put too much trust in some people based on their voting/posting too often. Mabey that's why I get offed by the bad guys so often too. :)

[jeff061]

Well you are the only one who trusts me, I got RPI and Hoops lookin at me funny ;).

[SnDvls]

Well you are the only one who trusts me, I got RPI and Hoops lookin at me funny ;).


well if you're bad, promise me you'll save me for your last kill

[Neon_Chaos]

I just got home from a wicked party. blech. It's 3:00 AM.

Pardon me if I don't get to the 9:00 deadline, or even 12:00! :)

Which means you guys get more time to banter.

Votes are now due by 12:00 Midnight EDT.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I don't see any reason to change my vote from yesterday.

Vote saldana

[dubb93]

It looks like 4 votes for me and 2 for Saldana right now. Make the right decision guys...

As for Sundvls edit....I do take the games seriously, otherwise we have a bunch of stupid votes and stupid plays, now personally, never. It is a game. You make several smart ass comments, I call you on them. End of story, it never goes outside the game and after tonight when you find out I'm the witness I'll accept your apology:)

As for Saldana's fake reveal. He had no choice. I assume he got a similar PM to the one I got last night. That his kill failed and that I spotted him on his way out. He looked around the thread, saw I hadn't been on yet and figured he could atleast give it a shot. Hell, it probably not only saves him, but then people the rest of the game as I have seen no indication my role is a 1 time use and Neon has been on today and didn't correct my thinking.

[Blade6119]

dola, and screw everyone who got me killed...lol

[kingfc22]

Very interesting turn of events today.

Unvote Dubb

For now that is.

[RPI-Fan]

I'm torn right now... there is a good chance I'm done after tonight, so I really want to make my vote count.

[hoopsguy]

Done, as in the outlaws win if we lynch the wrong guy this afternoon?

[dubb93]

Done, as in the outlaws win if we lynch the wrong guy this afternoon?

Done as in they tried to kill him last night so they will probably try it again tonight, especially if I'm the one being protected.

[RPI-Fan]

Done, as in the outlaws win if we lynch the wrong guy this afternoon?

I meant "done" as in its my last chance to help the villagers, probably.

BTW, I don't at all think it's a lost cause after tonight's vote. The absolute WORST case scenario is this:

1) There are 4 Outlaws (8-4 right now)
2) We lynch a villager today (7-4)
3) We lose another villager tonight (6-4)
4) We get an Outlaw tomorrow & lose a villager to the Outlaw leader (5-3)
5) Lose another villager at night (4-3)

Even in that scenario, we have a prayer of winning. And that is with a LOT of things going wrong for us.

[Fouts]

That would be a bad position to take. RPI and crew have had it out for me for a while now. Just look at yesterday and today with their reactions and posts. What have I done to deserve it? Buried my vote on day 1 b/c I don't like lynching anyone there. Usually get an innocent(which Bek was), kept quiet most of the night and on day 2 voted Ardent. I mean seriously, compare his antics this game to other ones. He was being freakin weird. Then he comes out and bets money he isn't a normal villager. The dude was just strange the entire game. Then last night was I put in a position where I had to defend myself. I figured all the attention and suspecion on me was actually a good thing since it all but guaranteed I would make it through the night.


You are acting more like an outlaw than a witness. A witness would make his statement and leave it at that. I am getting a bad vibe from you. I won't be changing my vote.

[dubb93]

You are acting more like an outlaw than a witness. A witness would make his statement and leave it at that. I am getting a bad vibe from you. I won't be changing my vote.

Keep in mind I was a witness with 5 votes on me by the time I got here to post anything. Also the outlaw I saw had already pointed a finger at me. I was in no position to just post what I saw.

[jeff061]

I've never ever seen a witness or seer role make a statment and leave it at that when they are being doubted, generally they get really frustrated.

[Fouts]

Dubb's post was very creative (adding knife and shadows). Something a bad guy would do to save his hide. Experience has taught us to go with the first guy and if he's wrong lynch the other. Jeff, I'd be careful about siding with dubb.

I'm not 100 percent sure on saldana, but it is usually safest to side with the first admission.

[jeff061]

But he is trying to save his hide. Saldana would be acting the same if he was around, which is why I haven't cast my vote yet.

I'm not 100 percent sure on saldana, but it is usually safest to side with the first admission.

I believe I won a game with you because people had that opinion ;).

[Fouts]

Done, as in the outlaws win if we lynch the wrong guy this afternoon?

You keep saying the sky is falling, but I don't think we started with more than 3 outlaws (normal with 19 people), plus the MoLMF. That number just seems right. There are 13 of us left, so that is 10-3.

1. Passacaglia - ??? very quiet
2. hoopsguy - talkative, not analyzing but preaching doom
3. saldana - claims witness
4. dubb93 - claims witness after saldana accused him
5. RPI-Fan - good analyzing from the beginning, targeted dubb early
6. Bek - baron
7. Mr. Wednesday - ???
8. jeff061 - ??? semi-defending dubb
9. Fouts - villager
10. kingfc22 - ???
11. SnDvls - ??? suspicious
12. Schmidty - ??? very quiet
13. Realdeal - judge in jail, not disputed

Any thoughts?

[Fouts]

But he is trying to save his hide. Saldana would be acting the same if he was around, which is why I haven't cast my vote yet.



I believe I won a game with you because people had that opinion ;).

You'll have to remind me, I've been in too many of these games.

We have the numbers to do a 1 for 1 swap.

[jeff061]

I think the Ardent/Penny kill messes with the perception of things and the lack of a seer adds a bit to it as well. But the bodyguard has done a good job so far, two no kill nights.

[Fouts]

Anyone know if the witness is a one and done person in this game? He has been in previous games.

[jeff061]

The creature game, I pretended to be a seer role and falsely accused the real seer. People believed me. Not sure if they would of if I didn't come out first.

[jeff061]

Anyone know if the witness is a one and done person in this game? He has been in previous games.

I can't imagine it would be multiple times. That would be pretty damn powerful.