WW 103? - 42 Attempts (Game Over - Conspirators Win)

[EagleFan]

Deadline

10 PM EST - Both day and night phases to be processed. Night orders may be conditional.


Sides

The 3rd Reich - Win condition of eliminating all conspirators. Major win condition of keeping Hitler alive and eliminating all conspirators. Additional win conditios may be possible for individual players.

The Conspirators - Win condition of achieving a 1:1 ratio with the 3rd Reich. Major win condition of eliminating Hitler and achieving the 1:1 ratio. Possible individual conditions exist.


Possible Roles

Nazi Roles

Hitler - The leader of the 3rd Reich. A control freak and historically a madman. Once a day he may submit orders for the day which will be passed along to the intended target(s). These orders may include defensive orders or offensive orders. All orders may have both positive and negative consequences (if someone that he orders to guard him is in the conspiracy there will be a greater chance of success in an attempt on his life in a night kill).

Hermann Göring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring) - Appointed by Hitler as Reichsmarschall des Grossdeutschen Reiches (Reich Marshal of the Greater German Reich), a rank that made him the highest ranking member of the Army and Luftwaffe. His personality stood out above all others and he was a master manipulator when sober. Late in the war drugs and questionable traits began to arise. Göring will have the ability to speak to a target each night and gain information. His ability may deteriorate if he is unable to remain sober.

Heinrich Himmler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himmler) - One of the most notirious Nazi leaders. Responsible for the deaths of millions. It is very frightening to think of the level of hatred which must have consumed this man. I debated including him but a little voice kept telling me to. Himmler will have an ability to change the lynch vote. The details of how he may change he vote will be known only by him.

Albert Speer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Speer) - The "archictect of the Third Reich" became a Nazi at a young age and moved his way up the ranks. His status with Hitler rose to greater heights than almost any other official. Though his part in the events of the war remain a topic for debate. He claimed no knowledge of the events and was given a relatively light sentence after the war. Since that time more evidence has come out which potentially links him to Auschwitz. One supporting factor in his lighter sentence was that his name was on a list of conspirators and he claimed that we was in the conspiracy though there was no other evidence and the list even included a side note saying that he needed to be swayed. Speers will be able to use his own ability for survival if he remains heads up against a conspirator, he will kill that conspirator and claim a major victory for himself and victory for the Nazis.

Emil Maurice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Maurice) - Not one of the more notorious Nazis but an original member of the SS and many give him credit as the founder of the SS. A personal friend of Hitler with close ties to both him and his family. Was accused by Himmler of being Jewish, or at least part Jewish, in an attempt to remove him from the SS. Hitler refused to remove him. Maurice will be able to communicate with Hitler through one PM per day of no more than 30 words.

Conspiracy Roles

Johann Georg Elser (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Elser) - A carpenter who is very good with his hands and detests the iron fisted rule of the Nazis and what he fears them to be. He has a one time ability to craft an explosive device which may (or may not) cause havoc with the Nazi party. When he decides to plant the bomb it will not go off for two nights (if he sets it on day/night one it will not go off until day/night three). There is no stopping his attack once it has begun and will still detonate if he is killed prior to the event. The device is set when he gives the order. He acts alone and does not have any affiliation with the Nazi party and thus not with the other conspirators. He wins with the conspiracy though he does not have PM rights.

Claus Philipp Maria Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claus_von_Stauffenberg) - Famous for his role in the assassination attempt know primarily in Germany as the 20 July Plot, though more commonly known as Operation Valkyrie (though that was actually a German conditional plan in the event that the government could not function for any number of reasons. Stauffenberg will have the ability to make a one time attempt on Hitler during one of the meeting events though if it is not successful Hitler will gain an ability to order an investigation of the incident in which there is a good chance that he will be discovered and executed. The chance of success will be determined by the following factors: if he is invited to the meeting and the number of conspirators that are attending the meeting (the more conspirators he more help he will have in making it successful, Elser's attendance counts towards this goal)

Major General Herrmann Karl Robert Henning von Tresckow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henning_von_Tresckow) - A man behind the movement to remove (kill) Hitler from power. Not drafted the plan for Valkyrie but also had a plot in 1943 to kill both Hitler and Himmler. Himmler cancelled his planned visit and the assassination was called off (fearing a German civil war between the Army and SS if Himmler were still alive). He also orchestrated another attempt in which a bomb disguised as a wine bottle was transpoted on Hitler's plane but the fuse failed (many attribute the temperature at that altitude to the failure). Additionally he formulated a plan in which a suicide bomber volunteered to wear the bomb. Hitler's schedule changed and instead of being there for 30 minutes was there for just 2. The bomber remove the bomb with minutes to spareafter activating the fuse upon Hitler's arrival. Treskow made several attempts but only Valkyrie would be his undoing. He cannot be detected as a member of the conspiracy unless there is a failed attempt by Stauffenberg in which case he loses his "cunning" ability. Failed meaning Hitler not being killed.

Other

Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Rommel) - A legendary German commander. Dedicated to protecting his homeland and serving his country. Began to question Hitler's leadership and joined the conspiracy. He actually was not in favour of the 20 July Plot but did play his part which was to begin taking control of the Western front once it was confirmed that Hitler was killed. Stauffenberg mistakenly declared success and the chain of events began to unfold. Rommel's attempt part was discovered though not publicized. Hitler "allowed" him to commit suicide instead of seeing Germany face the humiliation of a legend. Rommel will begin the game as a Nazi but will be converted upon night attack. His victory condition depends upon which side he is on at the end of the game.

Miscelleneous Rules/Events

Meeting Events - Every third day Hitler will host a meeting to discuss the course of the war, he will submit the list of attendees (the number will be determined by the number of remaining players). Meetings offer risk and reward. The greater the number of invitees, the greater the reward if successful but also the greater the chance for sabotage or worse.

Tie Lynch Vote - Hitler has no patience for indecisiveness. Ties will result in all parties which are tied for the lead to be executed.

Guarding - There is no typical bodyguard role. Hitler will have the ability to order the guarding of someone. He will not know who has the roles but may order a Nazi role to be guarded during the night phase. He may not order the same person guarded on consecutive nights. The person whom he choses to do the guarding will be told that they are guarding someone and the Nazi character whom they are guarding but not the identity of who tha is. They will also not know if they blocked an attack.

Items - No in game items used, with the exception of planted bombs for those with that ability but that is more of an ability than an item as it is not something that can be used by anyone else.

Nightfall - Nightfall must be unanimous and cannot occur on days with a meeting event.

Locations - Locations will be used for the purpose of quartering the troops. Hitler will determine who will be placed in what location (by user name and not role). A bomb attack may be against one of the locations. During the fist day Hitler will select the locations for everyone for day two/night two. Each day he will select the locations for the following day. He may not stay in the same location on consecutive nights and must visit each location at least one time every 5 days. There are no restrictions on the locations for any other player. The locations are: Berlin, Berchtesgaden and Wolfsschanze.

Vanilla Role PM - You are a dedicated member of the 3rd Reich. You will do whatever it takes to the best of your abilities to see that Hitler's vision for Germany comes true.

[EagleFan]

1. Lathum - Johann Georg Elser (Day Six Lynch)
2. The Jackal - Loyal Nazi (Day Seven Lynch)
3. Schmidty
4. Danny - Heinrich Himmler (Night Six Conspiracy Kill)
5. GoldenEagle - Loyal Nazi (Night Two Conspiracy Kill)
6. Autumn - Major General Herrmann Karl Robert Henning von Tresckow (Day Five Lynch)
7. J23 - Emil Maurice (Day Five Conspiracy Kill)
8. hoopsguy - Loyal Nazi (Night One Conspiracy Kill)
9. Darth Vilus - Loyal Nazi (Day Two Lynch)
10. PurdueBrad
11. Abe Sargent - Hitler (Day Five Bomb Blast)
12. Chief Rum
13. JAG - Loyal Nazi (Night Three Conspiracy Kill)
14. ntndeacon - Erwin Johannes Eugen Rommel, Nazi (Night Four Lynch)
15. KWhit - Loyal Nazi (Day Six Duking)
16. Telle - Hermann Göring (Night Four Conspiracy Kill)
17. bulletsponge - Loyal Nazi (Day Three Lynch)
18. LoneStarGirl - Loyal Nazi (Day One Duking)
19. DaddyTorgo - Albert Speers (Day One Lynch)

[EagleFan]

Poland has been invaded. Hiter's vision of the Third Reich in all it's glory has begun. Several high ranking Nazi officials and soldiers are now tasked with carrying out this vision and making it happen. Many believe they truly want this for their Germany, for the world. Others feel that Hitler must be stopped by any means, but they are afraid to speak out so they must go underground and attempt to remove Hitler at all costs.


Game On!!!!

[GoldenEagle]

Another vanilla villager role for me. Death to The Conspirators!

[Darth Vilus]

We weel shwow zem zee twoo poower of ze Aryan race! How Hitler!

[Darth Vilus]

I'll be working late tomorrow so I will have to vote absurdly early, just letting everyone know

[hoopsguy]

Well, I'm mildly disappointed not to have the role of Hitler but it is probably for the best since I'm not sure how the time constraints are going to impact my play.

[Darth Vilus]

and are there 4 or 5 conspirators do u think?

[Autumn]

Yeah, I had kind of thought it would be fun too, Hoops. And I should have time. I'm swamped with work, which counterintuitively means I'll be on here a lot. I'm at my desk and bored while trying to cram through some projects.

I'm strangely excited about this game. I guess it's been a while since I played, and the rules seem fun. I've got my spreadsheet going and I'm ready to go.

With that, I'm turning off for the night. But I'll be around most of the day tomorrow.

[LoneStarGirl]

Vanilla for me! This game should be interesting

[Autumn]

With a possible convert, I would assume 4, I guess. But it depends a lot on what powers Hitler might have, I suppose, and how much of an impact meetings will have on game play.

[Schmidty]

I am here!!!

[Darth Vilus]

I am here!!!

Bumsen!!!

[Schmidty]

Bumsen!!!

Bumsout!!! Do the Hokey pokey and you shake das Bum about!!!!

[Schmidty]

Bumsout!!! Do the Hokey pokey and you shake das Bum about!!!!

That wasn't funny, you Kraut!!!

[JAG]

Ready and raring to go. Very interesting rule set.

[Darth Vilus]

I thought it was a little funny

[bulletsponge]

Iz checking in. loyal to ze Fuhur

[Darth Vilus]

I believe it's Fuhrer. If u were loyal u would say mein Fuhrer. Kill the conspirator!

[Chief Rum]

With a possible convert, I would assume 4, I guess. But it depends a lot on what powers Hitler might have, I suppose, and how much of an impact meetings will have on game play.

I don't think we should make any presumptions at this point, as far too much of the game rules are hidden for us to make a correct call.

If you go strictly off of the role list, there are three conspirators (one of whom can't communicate with the others), and a potential fourth as a convert in Rommel. It is unclear if there are "vanilla" conspirators.

EagleFan, are there vanilla conspirators in this game?

[Chief Rum]

FTR, I am a loyal follower of the Nazi Party. But I have no role to speak of.

Like hoops, I might not be able to participate much in the day time during work weeks. It figures to be a busy week at my day job, as we will be short one person (which just means a bigger workload for the rest of us), so I won't be able to dally as much online as I sometimes have.

The good news is that I gave away my shift at my second job tomorrow night, so I should be around for the first deadline.

Heil Hitler!

[bulletsponge]

I believe it's Fuhrer. If u were loyal u would say mein Fuhrer. Kill the conspirator!

Mein Fuhrer knows i am ze loyal kraut

[Chief Rum]

I quoted in another thread, so I figure it's good here, too:

Lawyer: "But what about that tattoo on your chest? Doesn't it say, 'Die Bart, Die'"?
Sideshow Bob: "No, that's German for, 'The Bart, The.'"
Woman in gallery whispers: "No one who speaks German can be an evil man."

[EagleFan]

EagleFan, are there vanilla conspirators in this game?

That may depend upon your definition of vanilla. That's really about all I can say on that one.

[bulletsponge]

ve germans prefer chocolate

[Darth Vilus]

and ze Kreppel

[Danny]

I haven't gone over the roles or rules closely at all yet, so I don't have my analysis of number of wolves etc... like I normally do. Hopefully I will have some time for that tonight.

[Darth Vilus]

kill Danny!

[Schmidty]

It would be so freaking funny if there are 19 villagers. That would be EPIC!!!!

[The Jackal]

Vanilla here, its about time.

[Chief Rum]

That may depend upon your definition of vanilla. That's really about all I can say on that one.

Okay, let me ask another way.

Are there other conspirators besides the ones listed in the rules above.

[Schmidty]

Vanilla here, its about time.

VOTE JACKAL

Let's get this party started!!!! :D

[The Jackal]

VOTE JACKAL

Let's get this party started!!!! :D

Lately whether I've had a role or not people vote for me on the first day, so whatever. :)

[Schmidty]

Lately whether I've had a role or not people vote for me on the first day, so whatever. :)

Sorry, I'm just goofing. You can vote for me too!!!!

It's day one. Someone had to start the show. I'm PST and awake, so why not? Just watched "Wanted" with Angelina Jolie. It was ok, but she looked like a heroine addict. Very nasty.

[The Jackal]

Nah, I'm not gonna do a return vote, not yet at least. I haven't seen wanted yet, heard mixed reviews.

[Schmidty]

Nah, I'm not gonna do a return vote, not yet at least. I haven't seen wanted yet, heard mixed reviews.

The biggest problem I had was watching Mr. Tumnus trying to be a badass assassin. I missed his scarf.

[Danny]

Now that I have re-read through everything, my best guess is 3 wolves, Claus, Herman +1 vanilla wolf + Elser +Rommell.

So basically, three wolves who can communicate via PM, one who is with them, but can't speak with them and the one convert.

[Danny]

For those who maybe didn't spend the time reading the roles, it seems to break down like this.

Seer (standard seer it looks like)

Duke (details of how the vote may be changed only know to duke)

BG (Hitler) He is able to guard any role he wants as opposed to name of a person

Hunter (seems pretty standard hunter)

And then one player who can communicate with Hitler once per day

There is also a bunch more stuff for Hitler, but I would read through all that stuff.

[Danny]

For the wolves

Lone Wolf (no pm rights)- Has ability to make a bomb,

Wolf with ability to potentially kill Hitler

Cunning Wolf (loses ability if kill attempt on hitler fails)

Convert (pretty standard convert)

[Chief Rum]

For those who maybe didn't spend the time reading the roles, it seems to break down like this.

BG (Hitler) He is able to guard any role he wants as opposed to name of a person

I am sure you're just trying to simplify things, but this is not entirely accurate,

Hitler can ORDER someone to guard any role he wants. So the BG control is under Hitler, but the actual BG can change, night to night.

[Chief Rum]

As I said earlier, I will not be posting much if at all, and will almost certainly not vote until after 6 p.m. my time (an hour before deadline). So don't be surprised if I am not chipping in.

[Danny]

I am sure you're just trying to simplify things, but this is not entirely accurate,

Hitler can ORDER someone to guard any role he wants. So the BG control is under Hitler, but the actual BG can change, night to night.

Good point

[ntndeacon]

Would "vanilla" townies in this game be happy Nazis?

[ntndeacon]

oh, and Death to the conspirators!

[Abe Sargent]

Morning all, checking in and all of that.

[Danny]

I am going to put a vote down before I have to leave for work. I 99% should be back before the deadline however, so I will certainly reevaluate things when at that time, but just in case I want to have a vote in place.

[DaddyTorgo]

guess i have to check in over here...

[Danny]

I hate these day one votes, especially since it's so early in the day. I am looking through the list and I don't want to vote anyone.

[Danny]

Vote GoldenEagle

Again, this is not based on really anything and should be able to be on an hour or two before deadline to reevaluate the vote.

I am now off for the next 11 hours or so.

[Autumn]

I am sure you're just trying to simplify things, but this is not entirely accurate,

Hitler can ORDER someone to guard any role he wants. So the BG control is under Hitler, but the actual BG can change, night to night.

Oh, so this is a litlte bit like the last Marvel game, in that sense. I wonder what happens if he orders a wolf to guard somebody?

Is Hitler not a public role then? Or just hasn't checked in? I wanted to hear from the Fuhrer himself about his abilities.

[Abe Sargent]

It's early days, so I'll catch up in a few

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm going out tonight with some friends for my 30th birthday (which was a week ago), so I'm not sure if i'll be on before the 10pm deadline. i sure hope so, but i'll vote before i leave work just in case.

[Autumn]

I don't have a standing day one vote. So, presuming nothing happens during the day to give me a clue, I'll likely vote someone who lasted a long time in the last game (my Salem game). Sorry, whoever that ends up being ;-) It seems the fairest way to go.

[Telle]

Checking in...

[KWhit]

Hi all. Vanilla Nazi here.

[Lathum]

I got my PM and it said I was a member of the 3rd Reich. I was all pissed because I didn't want to be a wolf this game. Then I read the rules.

Nazi checking in.

[Lathum]

I don't have a standing day one vote. So, presuming nothing happens during the day to give me a clue, I'll likely vote someone who lasted a long time in the last game (my Salem game). Sorry, whoever that ends up being ;-) It seems the fairest way to go.

so you are saying you want to vote someone who had a lot of activity and interest in the last game?

[GoldenEagle]

I got my PM and it said I was a member of the 3rd Reich. I was all pissed because I didn't want to be a wolf this game. Then I read the rules.

Nazi checking in.

I did the same thing. I just automatically assumed that a nazi = bad.

[bulletsponge]

so you are saying you want to vote someone who had a lot of activity and interest in the last game?

no, hes saying he vont be here ven ze bomb goes off. how convinient

[bulletsponge]

^^ voops! i misread. vats supposed to be about Daddytorgos comment

i'm going out tonight with some friends for my 30th birthday (which was a week ago), so I'm not sure if i'll be on before the 10pm deadline. i sure hope so, but i'll vote before i leave work just in case.

[DaddyTorgo]

<DL><DD>The flag high! The ranks tightly closed!</DD><DD>SA (http://operationsports.com/wiki/Sturmabteilung) marches with a calm, firm pace.</DD><DD>Comrades whom the Red Front and reactionaries shot dead</DD><DD>March in spirit within our ranks.</DD></DL><DL><DD>Clear the streets for the brown battalions,</DD><DD>Clear the streets for the stormtroopers!</DD><DD>Already millions look with hope to the swastika</DD><DD>The day of freedom and bread is dawning!</DD></DL><DL><DD>Rollcall has sounded for the last time</DD><DD>We are all prepared for the fight!</DD><DD>Soon Hitler flags will flutter over barricades.</DD><DD>Our servitude will not last much longer now!</DD></DL><DL><DD>The flag high! The ranks tightly closed!</DD><DD>SA (http://operationsports.com/wiki/Sturmabteilung) marches with a calm, firm pace.</DD><DD>Comrades whom the Red Front and reactionaries shot dead</DD><DD>March in spirit within our ranks.</DD></DL>

[J23]

Checking in, I'll try to catch up with the thread this afternoon when things slow down(I hate Mondays).

[Autumn]

so you are saying you want to vote someone who had a lot of activity and interest in the last game?

No, I'm saying I'll vote for someone who got to play for a while, versus someone who got killed early or didn't play.

[Lathum]

No, I'm saying I'll vote for someone who got to play for a while, versus someone who got killed early or didn't play.

that was my point, just worded differently.

Someone who was heavily involved in the game.

[Autumn]

Well, not necessarily, I was just thinking someone who lasted a long time. Sometimes people last a while because they're UTR. But yeah.

[PurdueBrad]

Checking in (recovering from my trip). Will be on later in the day.

[Telle]

Everyone has checked in.

[Autumn]

I guess I had just assumed Hitler was a public role, thinking it would be a bit like the 24 game. That's definitely to our favor if he's not, as long as we don't out him too quickly. Interesting.

[DaddyTorgo]

Herr Hitler should remain quiet methinx

[Abe Sargent]

i'm super busy most of today, so I may not get a chance to vote until later.

[J23]

Ok, I read up and I'm still a bit confused. Are there night kills still? Or do the kills stem from these meetings if conspirators are invited? I guess I just don't get how the mechanics work.

[Abe Sargent]

Can I verify how the timeline goes. It seems like teh dayt and night deadline are at the same time?

[Autumn]

Yes, I believe it's one deadline.

As for night kills, I don't think it said specifically. With the locaitons and meetings, it seems to be like the bombing mechanics might be the kills, both the ones specified in the roles and maybe some others that replace the night kill?

[J23]

Thanks. I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something that was obvious or implied from previous WW game rulesets.

[KWhit]

It's quiet today.

[Darth Vilus]

perhaps a little too quiet...

[Abe Sargent]

perhaps a little too quiet...

Mua-a-ha?

[DaddyTorgo]

it's monday at 3pm...i need my coffee

[Autumn]

It is quiet, I've gotten used to crazy day one voting. Wait, is clap in this game?

[Darth Vilus]

vote kwhit

no real rason but i have to pick someone

[KWhit]

Bah.

[Abe Sargent]

okay, things are getting super crazy at work, don;t know honestly if I'll be back on later or not, so until then, I need a vote.

Has anyone not checked in yet?

[Abe Sargent]

Everyone has checked in.

That's not going to work then, nm

[Autumn]

Telle said everybody checked in, that's all I know.

[Autumn]

My short list based on my criteria I mentioned earlier, and my memory are Telle, J23, Darth and I think that's it. Those are the ones playing who I remember being at the end of the last game. As usual there's nothing really to go on.

[Abe Sargent]

I've been rereadinyg the posts real quick and haping that something jumps up but it doesnt. Ah well, let's just poke the rabbit.


Vote Lathum

For not reading the rules.

Very fragile and totally subject to chnge if/when I get back from all this uber work I have to due on Mondays. Au revoir.

[Lathum]

Vote Schmidty

figure I owe him.

[Lathum]

I've been rereadinyg the posts real quick and haping that something jumps up but it doesnt. Ah well, let's just poke the rabbit.


Vote Lathum

For not reading the rules.

Very fragile and totally subject to chnge if/when I get back from all this uber work I have to due on Mondays. Au revoir.

god forbid I think being a Nazi was a good thing.

And you are going to vote me for not reading the rules, yet you didn't read the thread enough to know everyone checked in.

People who live in glass houses...

[JAG]

VOTE DARTH VILUS

*insert day 1 voting reason*

[JAG]

As of post 89:

Jackal 1 - Schmidty (32)
GoldenEagle 1 - Danny (49)
KWhit 1 - Darth Vilus (80)
Lathum 1 - Abe Sargent (86)
Schmidty 1 - Lathum (87)
Darth Vilus 1 - JAG (89)

yet to vote: 13 people

[Autumn]

Out of the three I came up with I'm going to go with Darth. Telle is always helpful, even if she's a wolf ;-) with her vote counts and such. Darth has played enough that he doesn't need any more "new guy" kid gloves. Plus, it doesn't add another candidate at this point. I also don't imagine the Sith and Hitler getting along well. Too many cooks, etc.

VOTE DARTH VILUS

[ntndeacon]

Vote the Chief of Rum

Mainly since we need schnapps here instead. Rum shows a lack of belief in out beloved Fuhrer.

(Of course my paltry attempt at humor :) )

[DaddyTorgo]

damnit i need to vote in the next 30 mins

[DaddyTorgo]

so in back-to-back posts abe voted lathum and lathum voted schmidty...

[DaddyTorgo]

maybe abe+lathum are wolves so lathum's not worried about abe burying a vote on him so he voted for schmidty instead?

[DaddyTorgo]

fuck...gtg

VOTE LATHUM

[J23]

Out of the three I came up with I'm going to go with Darth. Telle is always helpful, even if she's a wolf ;-) with her vote counts and such. Darth has played enough that he doesn't need any more "new guy" kid gloves. Plus, it doesn't add another candidate at this point. I also don't imagine the Sith and Hitler getting along well. Too many cooks, etc.

VOTE DARTH VILUS

I think you're forgetting PurdueBrad. He made it to the end the last couple games I am pretty sure (though he was on my side both times... go Brad!)

[Autumn]

You are right, and GoldenEagle too. pays to actually check my old spreadsheet. Well, no reason to add what, an eighth? candidate. I'll be happy to move my vote if things consolidate elsewhere.

[EagleFan]

As of Post 98:

Jackal 1 - Schmidty (32)
GoldenEagle 1 - Danny (49)
KWhit 1 - Darth Vilus (80)
Lathum 2 - Abe Sargent (86), DaddyTorgo (96)
Schmidt 1 - Lathum (87)
Darth Vilus 2 - JAG (89), Autumn (91)
Chief Rum 1 - ntndeacon (92)

Yet to vote: The Jackal, GoldenEagle, J23, hoopsguy, PurdueBrad, Chief Rum, KWhit, Telle, bulletsponge, LoneStarGirl

[EagleFan]

Sorry, late night, migraine and then busier day than expected led me to not being able to get online until now. Tomorrow I will not be available int he afternoon but the rest of the seek should be pretty clear.

[Lathum]

maybe abe+lathum are wolves so lathum's not worried about abe burying a vote on him so he voted for schmidty instead?

why would we do that if I am a wolf?

I get enough scrutiny as it is, why bring more on myself?

Where is the reward for the risk, makes no sense.

[Lathum]

Dola-

Not to mention he could have just voted me for the reason of consolodating things, instead he makes up something that really makes no sense. DT looks like he is looking for an excuse to hide behind.

Unvote Schmidty
Vote DT

[EagleFan]

November 9, 1938. Maurice Bavaud, a Swiss citizen who became obsessed with the fear that Hitler posed a thread to his church and his homeland and plotting to kill Hitler. Wanting to perform the assassination himself he planned to shoot Hitler during the parade of Reichskristallnactht in Munich.

Posing as a Swiss reporter he obtaned VIP seating for the parade. He planned on shooting Hitler as he passed the seating area.

Two things went wrong. The first, and most important is that Hitler changed the arrangements of the march at the last minute. The change placed him on the far side of the formation and thuse effectively out of killing range of the gun which Bavaud was using (a Schmeisser 6.35 mm (.25 ACP) semi-automatic pistol). Secondly as Hitler neared the crowd around him stood and saluted Hitler. The rush of outstretched arms and bodies moving forward to get a glimpse of Hitler kept him from getting off a shot.

He attmpted to follow the parade to get another chance but that chance never presented itself. Unsuccessful and out of money he hopped a train to Paris without purchasing a ticket. He was discovered aboard the train without a ticket and with the gun still on him.

After being arrested he was turned over to the Gestapo and interrogated where he confessed to his plan. The ease of which he confessed have made many question if he actually would have pulled the trigger if he had been given the chance.

He was beheaded via guillotine in 1941 as the Swiss government made no attempt to save him.

[Lathum]

also, if me and Abe were going o do that do you really think we would vote simultaneously?

[PurdueBrad]

Read through twice, not much there so I'll put a second on

vote KWhit

[J23]

I don't really buy the reasoning either, and since I've nothing else to go on...

vote DT

[J23]

Just to bring this up... Ties are bad when we know nothing.

From the rules:
Tie Lynch Vote - Hitler has no patience for indecisiveness. Ties will result in all parties which are tied for the lead to be executed.

[LoneStarGirl]

Well this is typical day one stuff I suppose... I dont think the Abe Lathum voting should raise any flags. But I always like voting for the first person to put a second vote on somebody, so

vote autumn

[hoopsguy]

Someone have a vote count? I'm not going to be able to actually sit in the thread for any length of time until maybe 15-30 minutes before deadline.

[bulletsponge]

Vote Chief Rum

i have no veason to suspect him, other than he isnt me

[EagleFan]

As of Post 110:

Jackal 1 - Schmidty (32)
GoldenEagle 1 - Danny (49)
KWhit 2 - Darth Vilus (80), PurdueBrad (105)
Lathum 2 - Abe Sargent (86), DaddyTorgo (96)
Darth Vilus 2 - JAG (89), Autumn (91)
Chief Rum 2 - ntndeacon (92), bulletsponge (110)
DaddyTorgo 2 - Lathum (102), J23 (106)
Autumn 1 - LoneStarGirl (108)

Yet to vote: The Jackal, GoldenEagle, hoopsguy, Chief Rum, KWhit, Telle

[PurdueBrad]

Wait, Hoops is in this game?

(must resist urge to move vote to Hoops...fighting hard...barely restraining self)

[hoopsguy]

PB, as far as you know I'm not playing. Nothing to see here.

As far as the vote, I'll throw it in the direction of someone who has attracted at least a mild amount of suspicion. After reading through the posts DT seemed a little eager to create a linkage that I did not see. I don't have perfect reads on him, but I've seen him push the envelope with tenuous logic (if A fails, go to B the next day) before. If we lynch him and he is a wolf I would put Lathum + Abe in a pretty high trust level.

VOTE DADDYTORGO
VOTE DADDYTORGO

[Lathum]

WHY DOES hOOPS GET 2 VOTES?

i WANT 2 VOTES!!!

[EagleFan]

As of Post 114:

Jackal 1 - Schmidty (32)
GoldenEagle 1 - Danny (49)
KWhit 2 - Darth Vilus (80), PurdueBrad (105)
Lathum 2 - Abe Sargent (86), DaddyTorgo (96)
Darth Vilus 2 - JAG (89), Autumn (91)
Chief Rum 2 - ntndeacon (92), bulletsponge (110)
DaddyTorgo 3 - Lathum (102), J23 (106), hoopsguy (113)
Autumn 1 - LoneStarGirl (108)

Yet to vote: The Jackal, GoldenEagle, Chief Rum, KWhit, Telle

[Abe Sargent]

ok im her elet me get caught up

[Danny]

Just got home. Will start catching up, though I am exhausted.

[Danny]

As of Post 114:

Jackal 1 - Schmidty (32)
GoldenEagle 1 - Danny (49)
KWhit 2 - Darth Vilus (80), PurdueBrad (105)
Lathum 2 - Abe Sargent (86), DaddyTorgo (96)
Darth Vilus 2 - JAG (89), Autumn (91)
Chief Rum 2 - ntndeacon (92), bulletsponge (110)
DaddyTorgo 3 - Lathum (102), J23 (106), hoopsguy (113)
Autumn 1 - LoneStarGirl (108)

Yet to vote: The Jackal, GoldenEagle, Chief Rum, KWhit, Telle

Wow, haven't started reading yet, but this is awful. No way should the votes be this spread out ever. Hopefully we will see some consolidation.

[Autumn]

I'm catching up myself. I have to agree, DT's been the only one to really do anything suspicious looking today. No reason to have a runaway though.

A 4-2-2-2-2-1-1 vote is probably not ideal though ;-)

[Autumn]

Oops, I thought we had 4 on Daddy. Maybe I counted Hoops twice

[Schmidty]

Finally here again, and caught up.

I'll be checking the thread every few minutes, but I need to go grill some food.

[Danny]

Unvote GoldenEagle

[Danny]

Will be putting my vote somewhere it matters.

[Autumn]

Wow, a quiet evening too. I think the hunt for conspirators deserves more enthusiasm than this!

I had my vote list wrong, but it's actually worse than I thought. I think it's now 3-2-2-2-2-1-1. Way too easy for the wolves to tie it up, and not a lot we can tell from that. Can we somehow agree on targets to consolidate on? I don't really have an argument for Darth, just a day one vote.

[Abe Sargent]

I'll push then.


Unvote Lathum
Vote DT

Let's consilidate a bit

[Danny]

LSG and Schmidty should be un-voting for sure. Others should also consolidate.

[DaddyTorgo]

wow - lots of votes on me just because i was the first person to put a second vote on someone?

you all should know that i'm not afraid to be the first person to put a second vote on someone

*shrugs*

[Danny]

Abe, why did you put DT up by two instead of installing a second candidate. Personally I had no intentions of voting DT, but was debating who to go with as the second candidate. I find your vote switch to the already leading candidate a bit strange.

[Chief Rum]

VOTE DARTH VILIUS

Because in the two games I have played with him, DV has played well, and was always on the opposite side of me. Since I am a Nazi, ergo he is not.

Okay, yeah, it's a Day One vote, shoot me (wait, check that, that might actually happen in this game...)

[DaddyTorgo]

i just wanted to get things started consolidating is all. i was hella busy at work and was just looking for some sort of reason to consolidate on someone...and looking at when posts happened i was just drawn to those 3 in close succession

[Danny]

I think the auto second vote being suspicious is overrated, especially considering we had a bunch of people spread the vote like crazy

[DaddyTorgo]

I think the auto second vote being suspicious is overrated, especially considering we had a bunch of people spread the vote like crazy

i get sick of the spread votes on D1 and everyone should have observed by this point that i'm not afraid to make the decisive vote at the end of a day or start consolidation on people - for better or worse

[Chief Rum]

I think the auto second vote being suspicious is overrated, especially considering we had a bunch of people spread the vote like crazy

Ditto. Not that that means DT isn't guilty as hell, though. :D

I picked DV partly because he was one of the others with two votes. And I am one of the others with two votes, so obviously it's also self-preservation.

Danny, DV is your friend in real life, right? I just want to be sure I'm not voting to lynch someone who is across the seas in England (but I think that's MartinD...).

[Danny]

WHo I actually want to vote is Lonestargirl, her Autumn vote did not sit well with me as she was the last person to put a first vote on someone and spread it out further. And I didn't buy her reasining.

[Danny]

Ditto. Not that that means DT isn't guilty as hell, though. :D

I picked DV partly because he was one of the others with two votes. And I am one of the others with two votes, so obviously it's also self-preservation.

Danny, DV is your friend in real life, right? I just want to be sure I'm not voting to lynch someone who is across the seas in England (but I think that's MartinD...).

Yeah he is, but he is at work until after deadline which is why I am bit reluctant to place a vote there and tie it up.

[J23]

I'm here atm, but don't think moving my vote accomplishes much.

[JAG]

WHo I actually want to vote is Lonestargirl, her Autumn vote did not sit well with me as she was the last person to put a first vote on someone and spread it out further. And I didn't buy her reasining.

She has used that reasoning in a previous game for what it's worth (which led to me getting voted out no less).

[DaddyTorgo]

danny has friends?

[Autumn]

I may be biased, but yes, I also don't see why you would add an 8th candidate to the list that late in the day. Then again I don't know why we'd add a 7th either.

[JAG]

As of Post 139:

Jackal 1 - Schmidty (32)
KWhit 2 - Darth Vilus (80), PurdueBrad (105)
Lathum 1 - DaddyTorgo (96)
Darth Vilus 3 - JAG (89), Autumn (91), Chief Rum (129)
Chief Rum 2 - ntndeacon (92), bulletsponge (110)
DaddyTorgo 4 - Lathum (102), J23 (106), hoopsguy (113), Abe Sargent (125)
Autumn 1 - LoneStarGirl (108)

Yet to vote: The Jackal, GoldenEagle, KWhit, Telle

[Danny]

danny has friends?

Or Alternate personalities, but they don't talk to each other at all, so it doesn't have an effect on the game.

[Lathum]

FWIW LSG's vote pinged me hard also, but at the time I had a couple of votes on me so I couldn't risk switching.

[Chief Rum]

I can get behind an LSG vote. It wasn't something that clicked with me when I read her vote (I was catching up), but now that Danny pointed it out, I also am not a fan of the way that went down.

But we still have players who haven't even voted. Seems kind of arbitrary for pinning her down for a late "spread the vote" vote, since go a little sooner or wait a little longer, and someone else suddenly looks suspicious.

Plus, I'm not quick to jump behind Danny because he tripped a minor vibe of mine. Probably nothing, but it's there.

[Lathum]

wow - lots of votes on me just because i was the first person to put a second vote on someone?

you all should know that i'm not afraid to be the first person to put a second vote on someone

*shrugs*

That's not why I voted you, I voted you because you created a link between me and Abe that wasn't there.

[JAG]

I have to concur with others at this point that this day's voting has been a mess. There's still 30 minutes, but at this point in time we have four people who haven't voted, 3 people with 1 vote on them, 2 people with 2 votes on them, along with the two leading candidates. That's ridiculous.

[DaddyTorgo]

That's not why I voted you, I voted you because you created a link between me and Abe that wasn't there.

i just pointed it out and asked if anyone else saw it.

then i had to run out the door to the gun range to learn how to shoot with my buddy :D

[Danny]

Plus, I'm not quick to jump behind Danny because he tripped a minor vibe of mine. Probably nothing, but it's there.

You always trip a minor vibe of mine honestly, but I just learned to ignore it unless something more is there :).

[The Jackal]

I've been around and reading, I'll make my vote soon. I'm leaning towards moving it away from a tie, for what its worth.

[Autumn]

Yeah, FWIW, while LSG had a strange vote, I don't see how it helps the wolves. We already had seven candidates, there has to be somebody they could go for there. Unless there's some mechanic or info she had that we don't.

[Danny]

Didn't everyone check in, so what's up with the non votes?

[Abe Sargent]

Abe, why did you put DT up by two instead of installing a second candidate. Personally I had no intentions of voting DT, but was debating who to go with as the second candidate. I find your vote switch to the already leading candidate a bit strange.

The more people we have in the running, the easier it is for the wolves to make movmenet. Who cares if I move one of the sixteen 2s to a 3, there are still two threes and a bunch of twos, still too close. For my vote to malke adifference, I needed to make teh 3 a 4.

[The Jackal]

GE, KWhit, Telle, you guys around?

[Schmidty]

LSG and Schmidty should be un-voting for sure. Others should also consolidate.

Fine, I'll unvote, you bully. :)

Unvote The Jackal

Vote DT

I agree that what DT said was awkward and pretty much makes him an easy target. At the same time, I hate lynching people when they aren't around at the deadline to defend themselves.

Hope you're right.

[Chief Rum]

You always trip a minor vibe of mine honestly, but I just learned to ignore it unless something more is there :).

Unfortunately for you, I have no such control.

[DaddyTorgo]

if i die it's a loss, but not a huge one

[Schmidty]

cancel that. I hadn't read all the way through. I guess DT is here.

[Danny]

Since we're there, remember that tie is a double lynch.

[EagleFan]

As of Post 148:

Jackal 1 - Schmidty (32)
KWhit 2 - Darth Vilus (80), PurdueBrad (105)
Lathum 1 - DaddyTorgo (96)
Darth Vilus 3 - JAG (89), Autumn (91), Chief Rum (129)
Chief Rum 2 - ntndeacon (92), bulletsponge (110)
DaddyTorgo 4 - Lathum (102), J23 (106), hoopsguy (113), Abe Sargent (125)
Autumn 1 - LoneStarGirl (108)

Yet to vote: The Jackal, GoldenEagle, KWhit, Telle, Danny

[DaddyTorgo]

i'll put it out there that i have no intention of moving my vote to try to save myself - i'm too wary of lynching somebody who might have an actual role versus just lynching me

[Chief Rum]

if i die it's a loss, but not a huge one

A vanilla Nazi would be for all practical purposes a virtual no loss.

Are you suggesting you have a role?

[Danny]

Basically our choices seem to be DT, two players who aren't here (Kwhit and Darth) and Chief Rum

[Chief Rum]

i'll put it out there that i have no intention of moving my vote to try to save myself - i'm too wary of lynching somebody who might have an actual role versus just lynching me

Oh, okay, I guess you don't have a role.

[The Jackal]

Sorry DT, but I'm not going to be one to let there be room for a tie, and though the case against you is flimsy, there's at least a bit of a case.

VOTE DT

[Abe Sargent]

I keep being distracted by MNF, so I don;t know if I can keep attention as much as I want. I'm loving the Dolphins' orange jerseys instead of their normal blues, and watching Sanchez + wildcat + Pat White, well, it's hard for me to concentrate on thing slike the WW game.

[Chief Rum]

Basically our choices seem to be DT, two players who aren't here (Kwhit and Darth) and Chief Rum

I don't trust Chief Rum.

[EagleFan]

As of Post 153:

KWhit 2 - Darth Vilus (80), PurdueBrad (105)
Lathum 1 - DaddyTorgo (96)
Darth Vilus 3 - JAG (89), Autumn (91), Chief Rum (129)
Chief Rum 2 - ntndeacon (92), bulletsponge (110)
DaddyTorgo 5 - Lathum (102), J23 (106), hoopsguy (113), Abe Sargent (125), Scmidty (153)
Autumn 1 - LoneStarGirl (108)

Yet to vote: The Jackal, GoldenEagle, KWhit, Telle, Danny

[Danny]

Just so you know, it's now 6 votes DT, 3 Darth, 2 CR and 2 Kwhit

[Schmidty]

i'll put it out there that i have no intention of moving my vote to try to save myself - i'm too wary of lynching somebody who might have an actual role versus just lynching me

This statement makes me waver a bit guys. Although all wolves lie.

[Autumn]

Well, we have enough people here to choose a new target, Danny, if we want.

[DaddyTorgo]

Oh, okay, I guess you don't have a role.

if i had a role and thought i needed saving i'd say so...if i do have a role then be confident that it's one that i feel is of more minor importance

[Chief Rum]

I don't understand why if we have nothing to go on, we're piling on DT? We should be making this close--not tie close, as noted, but close enough to make the votes matter.

[Abe Sargent]

i'll put it out there that i have no intention of moving my vote to try to save myself - i'm too wary of lynching somebody who might have an actual role versus just lynching me

With all due respect, I think that is very flawed logic. Give up a guaranteed villager (if you are one) for one that you know nothing about? I'd never want to do that.

[JAG]

I'd be willing to change my vote if people think LSG is a better target. As I said, she's used that reasoning before, but it was awfully convenient to make a further mess of the voting. Or I could get behind voting for someone who hasn't voted to this point (other than Jackal since he has stated he will).

[DaddyTorgo]

no sense in painting a target on myself if i do end up being saved - not saying one way or another whether i have a role

[Abe Sargent]

I don't trust Chief Rum.

Me neither

[Danny]

With all due respect, I think that is very flawed logic. Give up a guaranteed villager (if you are one) for one that you know nothing about? I'd never want to do that.

It's actually a pretty common attitude DT has when he is a villager. I think he ends up getting lynched and turns out villager personally.

[Autumn]

I keep being distracted by MNF, so I don;t know if I can keep attention as much as I want. I'm loving the Dolphins' orange jerseys instead of their normal blues, and watching Sanchez + wildcat + Pat White, well, it's hard for me to concentrate on thing slike the WW game.

Hmm, what would the Fuhrer think about this level of devotion to the cause?

[JAG]

whoops, missed that we had moved to a new page, let me go back for a sec

[Danny]

Just to see

Vote Lonestargirl

[DaddyTorgo]

I don't understand why if we have nothing to go on, we're piling on DT? We should be making this close--not tie close, as noted, but close enough to make the votes matter.

please make it close quickly so that you at least potentially learn something

[EagleFan]

As of Post 176:

KWhit 2 - Darth Vilus (80), PurdueBrad (105)
Lathum 1 - DaddyTorgo (96)
Darth Vilus 3 - JAG (89), Autumn (91), Chief Rum (129)
Chief Rum 2 - ntndeacon (92), bulletsponge (110)
DaddyTorgo 6 - Lathum (102), J23 (106), hoopsguy (113), Abe Sargent (125), Scmidty (153), The Jackal (163)
Autumn 1 - LoneStarGirl (108)

Yet to vote: GoldenEagle, KWhit, Telle, Danny

[DaddyTorgo]

It's actually a pretty common attitude DT has when he is a villager. I think he ends up getting lynched and turns out villager personally.

you'll be correct

[Autumn]

I'd be willing to change my vote if people think LSG is a better target. As I said, she's used that reasoning before, but it was awfully convenient to make a further mess of the voting. Or I could get behind voting for someone who hasn't voted to this point (other than Jackal since he has stated he will).

Who hasn't voted yet?

Then again, what's the chance of a wolf not having voted? Possible, sure, but probably less likely than a villager.

[Chief Rum]

please make it close quickly so that you at least potentially learn something

That's the problem. My vote is already not on you.

[Danny]

Who hasn't voted yet?

Then again, what's the chance of a wolf not having voted? Possible, sure, but probably less likely than a villager.

I've actually seen Kwhit not vote as a wolf quite a lot. Telle on the other hand does seem unlikely to me.

[Abe Sargent]

Hmm, what would the Fuhrer think about this level of devotion to the cause?

He'd probbaly think I don't like to rp my characters much, that's what he'd think.

[Schmidty]

Just to see

Vote Lonestargirl

Wait. You were pushing me to unvote and go to DT, yet you aren't even voting for him? What's up? :confused:

[Chief Rum]

Just to see

Vote Lonestargirl

Okay, Danny and I are mutually suspicious of one another. So when we agree, this makes decent sense (or at least as much on Day One as such votes can).

UNVOTE DARTH VILIUS
VOTE LONESTARGIRL

[Danny]

Just to see

Vote Lonestargirl

Quoted to see if those were talking about this actually are willing to follow.

[Autumn]

Ah, KWhit and Telle, I see.

I agree that DT is giving a good vibe. Not sure if it's worth a pile on anyone else though. I won't move my vote unless there's another contender besides Darth.

[Chief Rum]

Wait. You were pushing me to unvote and go to DT, yet you aren't even voting for him? What's up? :confused:

I was kinda wondering why you thought he voted for DT.

[Danny]

Wait. You were pushing me to unvote and go to DT, yet you aren't even voting for him? What's up? :confused:

I just wanted you to unvote Jackal, I never said vote DT. Jackal just had no following, so it was a wasted vote.

[JAG]

UNVOTE DARTH VILIUS
VOTE LONESTARGIRL

[Abe Sargent]

I hate late runs against players who aren;t here to defned themselves.

[Abe Sargent]

When's the last game LSG even played?

[hoopsguy]

Oops on double-post on the vote. Guess I've gotten rusty on this whole voting thing after missing a couple of games.

[Schmidty]

I just wanted you to unvote Jackal, I never said vote DT. Jackal just had no following, so it was a wasted vote.

Well, I hadn't been around most of the day, and my vote was the first. I figured day 1 blah blah blah.

Anyway, that's cool. I get it now. :)

[Abe Sargent]

Hasn't it been a long while?

[Danny]

GE seems to be here, but isn't saying much...

Abe, but that is every player with multiple votes except DT.

[JAG]

Who hasn't voted yet?

Then again, what's the chance of a wolf not having voted? Possible, sure, but probably less likely than a villager.

GE, KWhit, and Telle, though I see GE is here. I understand where you're coming from, but the last game I played in we ended up having problems when we tried to analyze votes of people who missed some votes, so it makes me uncomfortable.

[EagleFan]

As of Post 191:

KWhit 2 - Darth Vilus (80), PurdueBrad (105)
Lathum 1 - DaddyTorgo (96)
Darth Vilus 2 - JAG (89), Autumn (91)
Chief Rum 2 - ntndeacon (92), bulletsponge (110)
DaddyTorgo 6 - Lathum (102), J23 (106), hoopsguy (113), Abe Sargent (125), Scmidty (153), The Jackal (163)
Autumn 1 - LoneStarGirl (108)
LoneStarGirl 2 - Danny (179), Chief Rum (188)

Yet to vote: GoldenEagle, KWhit, Telle

[Danny]

Hasn't it been a long while?

She played in the game before the last one.

[JAG]

When's the last game LSG even played?

She played two games ago. I don't remember if she played last game.

[EagleFan]

As of Post 201:

KWhit 2 - Darth Vilus (80), PurdueBrad (105)
Lathum 1 - DaddyTorgo (96)
Darth Vilus 1 - Autumn (91)
Chief Rum 2 - ntndeacon (92), bulletsponge (110)
DaddyTorgo 6 - Lathum (102), J23 (106), hoopsguy (113), Abe Sargent (125), Scmidty (153), The Jackal (163)
Autumn 1 - LoneStarGirl (108)
LoneStarGirl 3 - Danny (179), Chief Rum (188), JAG (193)

Yet to vote: GoldenEagle, KWhit, Telle

[GoldenEagle]

This run on LSG concerns me, especially when people starting unvoting Darth Vilus. It seems they are dropping him. I had planned to vote for him, but that would not do much good at this point.

[Abe Sargent]

And before that, when? A year ago? 6 months? 18 months? I hate to push on newer or recently returned players on Day One. ESPECially when they are not here to defened themselfs.


This does not sit well with me.

[Danny]

ESPECially when they are not here to defened themselfs.


This does not sit well with me.

Again. that is everyone with votes except DT, should we just have a runaway that tells us nothing later?

[GoldenEagle]

For the record, I doubt DT is a conspirator. I know it is a day 1 vote, but I hate to get rid of a player with a role, no matter how small it may be.

[Abe Sargent]

Again. that is everyone with votes except DT, should we just have a runaway that tells us nothing later?

Only thing this tells me is that there are some people that are jerks. ;)

[Lathum]

i just pointed it out and asked if anyone else saw it.

then i had to run out the door to the gun range to learn how to shoot with my buddy :D

umm, what?

You did nothing of the sort. You devised a whole theory about why me and Abe voted at the same time, claimed you were picking one of us than selected me.

[LoneStarGirl]

Okay I am here to defend myself and appreciate the concern Abe. I did play in a game recently and before that it was about a year and a half ago last I played.

I am highly suspicious of the run on me, especially since they were all in 14 posts of one another. This is day one, so there is not much to defend, but I am a vanilla Nazi.

[Danny]

For the record, I doubt DT is a conspirator. I know it is a day 1 vote, but I hate to get rid of a player with a role, no matter how small it may be.

And I agree with that which is why I haven't voted him.

[GoldenEagle]

VOTE Chief Rum

I have no real reason, other than I think DT is clean.

[Autumn]

I suppose we could do KWhit instead. He isn't here to defend himself, but has missed the vote as well.

[Danny]

Okay I am here to defend myself and appreciate the concern Abe. I did play in a game recently and before that it was about a year and a half ago last I played.

I am highly suspicious of the run on me, especially since they were all in 14 posts of one another. This is day one, so there is not much to defend, but I am a vanilla Nazi.

Actually, there was discussion before the votes started. I brought up your name first and voted you first. I stand by my read since it's the best I found on day 1.

[Abe Sargent]

I suppose we could do KWhit instead. He isn't here to defend himself, but has missed the vote as well.

That's more comfortable, if he hasn;t voted.

[Danny]

And with LSG revealing adamant she has no role, I think I will leave my vote. Out of the ones not here, at least we seem to know she doesn't have a role.

[Autumn]

Actually, there was discussion before the votes started. I brought up your name first and voted you first. I stand by my read since it's the best I found on day 1.

Yeah, it was a long time brewing.

LSG, do you have a better target than me, since I'm a wasted vote at this point?

[Telle]

I've been logged in but have been away from the computer.. almost forgot about the vote as I got busy with something else. I'm not quite caught up on this page, but need to get a vote in before the deadline.

vote Darth Vilus

[GoldenEagle]

Time check

[LoneStarGirl]

With 3 minutes left I am liking Chief, since he was the second vote on me
unvote autumn
vote chief rum

[GoldenEagle]

Darth Vilus was the best candidate for today, but there some suspicious votes switched off of him.

[Danny]

Unvote Lonestargirl
Vote Chief Rum

Sorry Chief, but we need the voting record here.

[JAG]

Darth Vilus was the best candidate for today.

He was? Why do you say that?

[Danny]

Darth Vilus was the best candidate for today, but there some suspicious votes switched off of him.

What made him the best candidate? He hasnt been around all day

[DaddyTorgo]

if i vote chief and tie it up we both die, right?

[Danny]

right

[DaddyTorgo]

well that's bad hmm?

[Danny]

Well if he is a wolf then it's not so bad, but otherwise yes.

[Chief Rum]

UNVOTE LSG
VOTE DT

[EagleFan]

deadline

[DaddyTorgo]

i'll just die then...i'd hate to do that and end up offing the seer or something

[Chief Rum]

W...T...H was up with that run? That stinks!

[Chief Rum]

Sorry, DT, I had to switch for self-preservation. I was surprised I got it in on time.

[DaddyTorgo]

no worries CR - i wasn't about to vote for you anyways

[Danny]

W...T...H was up with that run? That stinks!

At least there was some action that we can use later. I voted you, but I made sure to leave time for people to try and save or respond.

[Autumn]

Yikes, that was close. I was still trying to figure out if I should switch onto someone. We're lucky we didn't come out with a tie there by accident.

[Danny]

I think there is no chance DT turns up wolf here. I suppose the convert is possible, but he ties that up if he is a wolf (assuming they both aren't wolves)

[EagleFan]

Final Day One Vote

KWhit 2 - Darth Vilus (80), PurdueBrad (105)
Lathum 1 - DaddyTorgo (96)
Darth Vilus 2 - Autumn (91), Telle (219)
Chief Rum 5 - ntndeacon (92), bulletsponge (110), GldenEagle (213), LoneStarGirl (221), Danny (223)
DaddyTorgo 7 - Lathum (102), J23 (106), hoopsguy (113), Abe Sargent (125), Scmidty (153), The Jackal (163), Chief Rum (230)
LoneStarGirl 1 - JAG (193)

No vote: KWhit

[EagleFan]

Results shortly, a few things to iron out.

[Chief Rum]

At least there was some action that we can use later. I voted you, but I made sure to leave time for people to try and save or respond.

I guess you and I differ on the concept of leaving time. Sure, it wasn't 7 p.m. but two minutes is hardly a huge window (and especially since, until EF posted his deadline, we didn't know if votes at 7 would even count).

I have to consider you four who voted for me at the end as highly suspicious.

[Danny]

I guess you and I differ on the concept of leaving time. Sure, it wasn't 7 p.m. but two minutes is hardly a huge window (and especially since, until EF posted his deadline, we didn't know if votes at 7 would even count).

I have to consider you four who voted for me at the end as highly suspicious.

But what else am I supposed to do there? The voting record is going to be key later and unlike (you know you're good if you are) I have no way of knowing your allegiance. I really didn't want to to vote you, but it was you or a completely wasted vote. If I wanted to vote you I would have done so earlier.

[Chief Rum]

But what else am I supposed to do there? The voting record is going to be key later and unlike (you know you're good if you are) I have no way of knowing your allegiance. I really didn't want to to vote you, but it was you or a completely wasted vote. If I wanted to vote you I would have done so earlier.

But finishing off a run of four votes in, what, five minutes, with two of them coming fairly recently? That was an odd move, Danny.

[DaddyTorgo]

good luck village

guess i coulda been less accusatory on D1...but not a huge loss i wouldn't say

[Chief Rum]

But you're not alone. I look at all of those votes with suspicion. Why not KWhit? Or back onto Darth Vilius? It seems odd to me that I was singled out at the end.

[Chief Rum]

good luck village

guess i coulda been less accusatory on D1...but not a huge loss i wouldn't say

Now, now, maybe Goring will save you.

[Danny]

But finishing off a run of four votes in, what, five minutes, with two of them coming fairly recently? That was an odd move, Danny.

It was a third vote, and you will see why I did so very soon.

[LoneStarGirl]

I guess you and I differ on the concept of leaving time. Sure, it wasn't 7 p.m. but two minutes is hardly a huge window (and especially since, until EF posted his deadline, we didn't know if votes at 7 would even count).

I have to consider you four who voted for me at the end as highly suspicious.

And what you did wasn't suspicious at all?

[EagleFan]

Day Results:

The debate heats up as the day lingers on. There is a traitor amongst you and accusations are flying.

DaddyTorgo is the traitor!

LoneStarGirl is the traitor!

Chief Rum is the traitor!

You can't decide. Finally when the smoke clears you settle on DaddyTorgo.

Arrest him! A voice cries out! Halt! We have tried and convicted him for treason against the Reich, his sins are punishable by death.

What Trial? DaddyTorgo demands to know.

Just like a traitor would respond! Get him!!!!

A fiing squad sends DaddyTorgo to the ground. You search the body and find that he was Albert Speer.

NEIN!!!!!!!!!!! Actung, Achtung!!!! I have found the traitor.

He drags LoneStarGirl to the front of the crowd. Here is the traitor!!!

The firing squad turns it's attention to LoneStarGirl. Shots ring out. LoneStarGirl lies motionless. You feel confident that you have heled the cause.

A search of her belongings is suggested. The only thing that is found is a Hitler Youth card. LoneStarGirl was a run of the millloyal Nazi.

In all the confusion you did not see where Himmler got to but are not happy with his decision.

[LoneStarGirl]

It was a third vote, and you will see why I did so very soon.

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