WW - The Princess Bride (Game Over - Wolves Win)

[EagleFan]

I decided to go vanilla WW for this one. I had the other game about ready to go but won't have the time required to run that one. Plus I think we need something a little more vanilla to keep everyone from burning out.

The game will be based on The Princess Bride. I will post more details later (have a meeting about to start with offshore) but it will be a one deadline game (conditionals accepted) with the deadline being at 10 PM EST.

[EagleFan]

Rules

Teams

Village - Basic Villagers as in any game of werewolf.

Wolves - Basic Wolves as in any game of werewolf.

Voting

- Votes must be in bold to count.
- The player with the most votes at the end of the day will be lynched.
- Roles revealed upon lynching.

Posting

- No quoting from PM's which have been sent by me. If a PM is a response to a question about the game I will also post that response in thread for everyone to see.
- No personal attacks, keep it friendly.
- Once a player is killed (lynched or night killed) they may not post in thread about anything game related.

Deadline

- 10 PM EST Weeknights.
- One deadline for both day and night actions.
- Night actions may be submitted with a conditional but it must be a specific conditional (ex: the wolves can't say "if someone reveals as the seer then kill him"). If there are any questions if the conditional is okay, please ask.
- 10:00 timestamp on a post or PM = valid; 10:01 and later will not be accepted.

Tie Vote

- 1st tie vote will result in a random killing of one of the players that voted for someone other than the players who were tied (example: if I was tied with Lathum for the vote a random player who did not vote for either Lathum or I will be lynched).
- 2nd tie vote will result in multiple random killings. One player who voted for each of the tied players will be lynched (example: if I was tied with Lathum for the vote a random player who voted for me will be lynched and a random player who voted for Lathum will be lynched).
- 3rd tie vote will result in everyone being lynched and I will be declared the winner. Seriously, if you have three votes result in a tie in one game do you really deserve to win?

Win Conditions

- Village wins if they eliminate all wolves.
- Wolves win by eliminating all villagers (once they reach a 1:1 ratio they will lash out and eliminate the remaining villager(s)).

Roles

- The number of players that sign up will determine what roles are used.
- If there are unused roles the wolves will be told of one role that is not in the game.
- Only roles which are published in the roles posting will be in the game, no hidden roles (there may be hidden win conditions).

Items

- Only items described in the item section will be in the game.
- Item abilities will be clearly defined.
- Items may be passed to other players.
- On day one playerrs may select one item. Only one of each will exist. I will use random.org to select which player who requested and item will actually receive it. There is one exception to this rule, the holocaust cloak will start with Miracle Max and he may select one player to give the cloak to by the day 2 deadline.
- To be in the running for an item players must select that item on day one by the deadline. Use the same mechanic as the voting mechanic but use the phrase Select (Item Name). The winner of that item will be selected from the pool of players that selected the item. Miracle Max may select an item as he has to give away the cloak.

[EagleFan]

Roles

Westley - Villager role. He is equally skilled and intelligent. His ability to beat skill, strength and brains make him a very formidable player. He will have the seer role and may select one person each night to scan. Additionally he may protect himself one time during the game.

Inigo Montoya - Villager role. His skill with the sword has developed over the years as he searched for the 6 fingered man. Revenge shall be his and he can search for the 6 fingered man. He has the duke abilities in this game and may once during the game change the result of the lynch.

Fezzik - Villager role. His strength is second to none. He has the bodyguard role. He may select someone to protect each night. He may self protect. He may not protect the same person on consecutive nights.

Princess Buttercup - Villager role. A vision of beauty, we can only assume. She has a passive role in this game. If she is either lynched or night killed the wolves gain a 50% chance of a random conversion.

Miracle Max - Villager role. Each night he may select a player to attempt to bring back from the dead (protect). If that player happens to be Westley and is night killed that night the kill will be blocked. If that player is any other character and is night killed that night, Max will be killed in his place.

Grandpa - Villager Role. As he tells us this story he may decide if we need to skip ahead in the story. This power will allow him to negate a day. He may submit this action prior to the deadline. After the lynch is announced the game will be interupted by his grandson and he will begin telling the story again. The lynched player will remain alive and no wolf action that night.

Dread Pirate Roberts - Neutral Role. Will have his own win condition.

Vizzini - Wolf Role. Hired by Prince Humperdink to kidnap and kill the princess. He may scan for Inigo, Westley and Fezzik. If found he may steal their ability for a day (but only if they are still alive). He is easiy fooled; though he finds that inconceivable.

Prince Humperdink - Wolf role. Though a coward at heart the prince is the leader of the wolves. He must find the Princess and have her killed. He may scan one player each night to see if that person is the princess.

Count Rugen - Wolf role. This man is ruthless and will kill anyone who gets in his way and is not expecting it. He has the brutal role and will take one defenseles villager to the grave with him when (if) he is lynched.

The Albino - Wolf role. One time during the game he may imprison a player the following day. No matter how that player votes he may change the vote (example: if I am the albino and choose to imprison Lathum for day 2 no matter what Lathum votes I may tell myself to change that vote to another player). It will not be known whose vote was changed when announcing results.

The Clergyman - Wolf role. While it looks like he is bumbling his way through services and seems to not like the Prince, he is truly evil at heart (though few cansee that). He has the cunning role. If scanned he will scan as a villager.

ROUS - Optional Rogue Wolf Role. No PM rights but will have a one time night kill ability. Will not know who the other wolves are but may select a player to sniff to determine if that player is a wolf. One problem is that the cunning will even come back as villager to this scan as well.

Items

Holocaust Cloak - One time use. Will protect the wearer from harm that night (and the next day). If the player submits a request to wear it on day one that player will not be able to be night killed and will not be lynched the next day. If the player is the leading vote getter for lynching that day the second vote getter will be lynched instead. If that causes a tie the tie mechanics will kick in.

Wheelbarrow - One time use. Can be used as part of a ploy to frighten the target. The target will be unable to perform a night action that night or vote the following day. The target may still post and will be informed that the item was used against him.

Iocane Powder - Odorless and tasteless, but one of the deadliest poisons known to man. If the holder of this item is lynched he may challenge one person who voted for him to a battle of wits. The one who drinks poison will be killed. If the original lynch target (the holder of the powder) survives his role/allegiance will still be announced.

[EagleFan]

Signups:

1) Danny - Dread Pirate Roberts/Westley (night four kill)
2) Darth Vilus - vanilla villager (day one lynch)
3) bhlloy - vanilla villager (night one kill)
4) Passacaglia - Prince Humperdink (day two lynch)
5) PackerFanatic - Miracle Max (night two kill)
6) The Jackal - ROUS
7) mauboy1 - vanilla villager (day five lynch)
8) Autumn - Princess Buttercup (day six lynch)
9) Chief Rum - vanilla villager (day three lynch)
10) Lathum - Vizzini
11) Narcizo - Westley / 2nd DPR
12) ntndeacon - vanilla villager (day four lynch)
13) dacman/CrimsonFox - Inigo / 3rd DPR
14) MrBug708 - vanilla villager (night five kill)
15) Telle - Fezzik
16) JAG - Count Rugen

[CrimsonFox]

what a TERRIBLE theme!

[Danny]

In

[Autumn]

I'm in!

[PackerFanatic]

Reserved for later

+1

[Darth Vilus]

In. Just don't make it dumb yeah? :jester:

[EagleFan]

Rules and roles added. Will add more details tomorrow such as the items which will appear in game (how can there not be a holocaust cloak or wheelbarrow).

[bhlloy]

Nice concept, I'm in

[CrimsonFox]

oh sure. now that you have a theme, I look like a taunting jerk.

[JAG]

How can Vizzini not be the cunning?

[Passacaglia]

A Princess Bride Werewolf game? Inconceivable!!

I'm in. I might not have the best access throughout the game, and am unlikely to be around at deadline, but I have to be in with this theme. I want to a a rodent of unusual size.

[Passacaglia]

Q: Can villagers with a role be converted, or just villagers with no role?

[PackerFanatic]

In.

[The Jackal]

How can Vizzini not be the cunning?

+1

[The Jackal]

I love this movie, so I guess you can count me in. But if you make me a wolf, I'm gonna Fezzik you.

[mauchow]

I'm in! Inconceivable!

[Autumn]

Love the rule set. As you can see, I was in from the start.

[EagleFan]

How can Vizzini not be the cunning?

Thought about it, but he was the ring leader and obviously a "bad guy". Went with another great but very minor character who you really don't see as good or bad in the movie and made him the unexpected bad guy.

Q: Can villagers with a role be converted, or just villagers with no role?

It will be non-roled villager being converted randomly.

[The Jackal]

Mawwage, Mawwage is what bwings us toogeder, tooday. That bwessed awwangement. That dweam wifin ah dweam.

[EagleFan]

Added the ROUS, was trying to come up with a way to incorporate it. Using it as a rogue wolf with a couple abilities. This is an optional role and will only be used if the number of players seems about right.

[EagleFan]

Mawwage, Mawwage is what bwings us toogeder, tooday. That bwessed awwangement. That dweam wifin ah dweam.

Love that scene. My oldest daughter loves this movie and every time she sees it she ends up repeating that line for a while (randomly out of the blue).

[The Jackal]

Maybe a quicksand item that the wolves start with and can render a player unable to speak for one day phase?

[The Jackal]

Well, doesn't have to be a wolf item. Could be anyone!

[EagleFan]

Added a couple items (the previously mentioned ones). Will be adding more details about items sometime tonight. Will be working very late tonight with more meetings from hell so it will be late, probably near midnight.

[The Jackal]

Well the wheelbarrow covered that. Nice looking ruleset. :)

[Barkeep49]

The book was better.

[The Jackal]

The book was better.

I still haven't read it, I definitely need to.

[Barkeep49]

I still haven't read it, I definitely need to.
It has all the funny/sweet points of the movie (William Goldman wrote both) but with a whole other layer of satire on top of it.

[Chief Rum]

I still shouldn't be playing WW with my current job commitments taking me away, but I can't pass on a Princess Bride themed game.

Count me in.

[Lathum]

in

[EagleFan]

oh sure. now that you have a theme, I look like a taunting jerk.

Editing of that is allowed if you want to 'clear your name'. :)

[Narcizo]

In if starting at the week-end/next week.

[EagleFan]

Looking to start it next week. Wait a day or so to see how many players and will decide from there. Hopefully we get a good list and kick it off on Monday.

[EagleFan]

Added another item and an additional update in the rules for items (how they will be given out).

Feel free to ask if there are any rules that you want clarified. More than willing to address any questions now to cut down on confusion after the game starts.

[Autumn]

What, but then the wolves can't feign confusion about the rules!

[The Jackal]

Iocane powder, awesome addition and mechanic.

[Danny]

If I get the powder as a villager, I am going to reveal as a wolf day 1 just so I get the opportunity to use it before being night killed.

[hoopsguy]

I still shouldn't be playing WW with my current job commitments taking me away, but I can't pass on a Princess Bride themed game.

Count me in.

Sadly, I will be unable to play this game. Get used to disappointment :)

[ntndeacon]

in

[Passacaglia]

How can Vizzini not be the cunning?

Cunning or whatever, but Vizzini has to be in the game. I mean, maybe you have a secret role for him or something, and that's fine. I mean, I'll play either way, but you just can't have a Princess Bride game without Vizzini!

[Autumn]

http://www.images-graphics-pics.com/signs/sign-generator/simple.aspx?color=darkblue&color2=tan&watermark=&gradient=&spacing=&x=103&y=62&w=213&h=125&move=0&move2=&rotate=&fontsize=34&text=We+want+Vizzini%21&font=homework&allow=7608&pic=Cardboard-Sign&align=Center&align2=Middle&transparency=255

[Autumn]

http://www.images-graphics-pics.com/signs/sign-generator/simple.aspx?color=blue&color2=&watermark=&gradient=green&spacing=&x=55&y=0&w=250&h=150&move=0&move2=&rotate=-7&fontsize=34&text=Vizzini%0D%0Afor+%0D%0ACunning&font=signage&allow=7608&pic=Picket-Protestor&align=Center&align2=Middle&transparency=255

[Autumn]

http://www.images-graphics-pics.com/signs/sign-generator/simple.aspx?color=black&color2=red&watermark=&gradient=&spacing=&x=211&y=51&w=140&h=151&move=0&move2=&rotate=-3&fontsize=18&text=No+Vizzini%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AInconceivable%21&font=printed&allow=7608&pic=protest&align=center&align2=Middle&transparency=255

[The Jackal]

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/snackeru/greet/images/vizzini.jpg

[EagleFan]

Cunning or whatever, but Vizzini has to be in the game. I mean, maybe you have a secret role for him or something, and that's fine. I mean, I'll play either way, but you just can't have a Princess Bride game without Vizzini!

Oh crap, just saw I didn't list him. In my mind he has been there the whole time.

[The Jackal]

Oh crap, just saw I didn't list him. In my mind he has been there the whole time.

Hurry up!! Move the thing! And that other thing!

[EagleFan]

Corrected my mistake.

[EagleFan]

Added Grandpa to the game as well.

Going to need more people in order to get all the roles into the game.

[The Jackal]

RIP Peter Falk

[The Jackal]

I better go all CF early in this game since people are going to be harboring me gobs of ill will.

[EagleFan]

Would love to see this get to 20 players (or more).

Call your friends and family, wake up your neighbors, shout it from a mountain top!!! Signups are open!!!

:)

[The Jackal]

JAG I challenge you to (another) battle of wits!

[EagleFan]

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[Danny]

I've made this offer before, but I am willing to play multiple spots. You can sign me up for 7-8 in total, just make them all villagers.

[EagleFan]

I've made this offer before, but I am willing to play multiple spots. You can sign me up for 7-8 in total, just make them all villagers.

I'll sign you up for 3 wolf spoots and 3 village spots. Just to see if you lynch or night kill yourself first. :)

[Danny]

lol

[Autumn]

Awesome additions, EF, this looks great.

[Autumn]

Sign on up, dacman

[dacman]

Yeah, yeah OK. I'm in.

[EagleFan]

Yeah, yeah OK. I'm in.

Sweet, welcome!

[EagleFan]

Added more details about the item selection process to the rules.

[Barkeep49]

Yeah, yeah OK. I'm in.
Hey great to see you. I'm not planning on playing this game so if you need any help/mentoring on WW don't hesitate to drop me a PM.

[Danny]

Yeah, yeah OK. I'm in.

Welcome! Glad you signed up!

[ntndeacon]

I will not be able to post on Monday as I wont be near a computer that day. If that is a problem I can back out.

[EagleFan]

I will not be able to post on Monday as I wont be near a computer that day. If that is a problem I can back out.

Obligatory "so that's one less post" joke here... :)

I may push the first day back until Tuesday to try to get a few more playerrs if needed. Would like to get enough players to use all the roles and items.

[EagleFan]

BK keeps popping in. He really wants to play....

Repeat after me BK...

In

:)

[EagleFan]

A few pieces of trivia about the movie (mistakes and blunders):

In the sword fight between Man in Black and Inigo, when MIB throws his sword down and then proceeds into his flip from the "horizontal bar" onto the ground level, he lands a good five feet from the thrown sword. In the next cut, he reaches a foot away to grab the sword's handle.

While the Man in Black is on Fezzik's back during their fight, one of Fezzik's lines is heard while his lips aren't moving at all.

When Fezzik leans Westley on the castle wall, the wall moves.

When Westley is fighting the ROUS, you can see a techie by the tree step in and out of the picture.

In the final scene, in the close up of the grandfather saying, "As you wish," the wall color is different from the color of the wall in the wide shot. This is because the close-up was a pickup shot done well after the original scene was shot.

[hoopsguy]

[quote=EagleFan;2499330]I decided to go vanilla WW for this one./quote]

If this is the vanilla game I would love to see what your complex one looks like :)

[EagleFan]

If this is the vanilla game I would love to see what your complex one looks like :)

Compared to some of the more recent games it is relatively vanilla. :)

[CrimsonFox]

Can I be just "Mostly dead"? (I've got the loose change!)

[Darth Vilus]

when do we start?

[Autumn]

I know you were hoping more signups, but I'm actually looking forward to a slightly more moderate number of players. The 20+ games are a lot to grasp, it's hard to keep track of everyone. A player more would be perfect here I think.

[Narcizo]

Plus summer means it's always going to be hard to get a lot of people.

[EagleFan]

Looks like we'll be using a smaller numberr of players. Will give it until tonight for the signups (make one more push for people) and then send out the roles tonight. Unfortunately not all roles (and possibly items) will not be present.

I may try to run this game again sometime later in the year to see if we can get more players (would really like to see how it plays out with all roles involved).

I will have to tweak some of the roles for the abbreviated version.

[MrBug708]

Ok..I'm in though I might not be around on Wed night

[EagleFan]

Can I be just "Mostly dead"? (I've got the loose change!)

Do you want to be mostly dead all game?

You know you want in.... you just know it.

[Telle]

Ok, I'll play. Can't pass up a chance at a Princess Bride game.

[EagleFan]

Sweet, we have our princess. :)

Though we were going to have Darth dress up in a skirt but that just wouldn't be the same.

[Narcizo]

Boo! Boo! We want Darth in a skirt.

[EagleFan]

Boo! Boo! We want Darth in a skirt.

Inconceivable!

[Lathum]

starting when?

[JAG]

I'll join, but I likely won't have my usual level of activity.

[Danny]

Looks like we'll be using a smaller numberr of players. Will give it until tonight for the signups (make one more push for people) and then send out the roles tonight. Unfortunately not all roles (and possibly items) will not be present.

I may try to run this game again sometime later in the year to see if we can get more players (would really like to see how it plays out with all roles involved).

I will have to tweak some of the roles for the abbreviated version.

Here

[EagleFan]

Going to start looking at the balance and getting roles together. Taking signups until I start to pick the roles.

[EagleFan]

Tweaked The Princess to only allow a 50% chance of a random conversion.

Not all roles will be in the game.

[EagleFan]

Signups closed, going to roll for the roles and start sending out PM's.

[EagleFan]

PM's going out. A vanilla will receive a simple PM was stated below:

You are a vanilla villager.

[EagleFan]

There is trouble in the land. Princess Buttercup has been kidnapped, rescured, kidnapped again, gotten engaged and is ready for mawwage... maybe.

As good villagers you must help her find her rue love and rid the kingdom of Prince Humperdink and his bumbling band of boneheads and blowhards.

Game on.

Along with your day one votes you may also select an item. You may select either the Ioccane Powder or the Wheelbarrow.

At the end of day one I will randomly select one player from the list that selected that item. That player will be given the item.

Game on!!!!

Day one Deadline is 10 PM EST on Tuesday.

[mauchow]

Villager here!!

Let's make this two in a row for me to make it to the end as a villager!

[PackerFanatic]

Checkin' in. Looking forward to some fun :)

[The Jackal]

I'm playing, I must be a wolf!

Wait, I'm a villager?! INCONCEIVABLE!

[The Jackal]

So, quick glance over the rules/roles.. There's 16 of us so there's no way we have 6 roled villagers, 6 roled wolves, and a neutral.

Something like 5 roled villagers, 3-4 wolves (I can see 4 if the ROUS is in), and the dread pirate roberts with 6-7 vanillas seems likely.

[The Jackal]

This could be a bit rough since the wolves could potentially have multiple scanners, makes it much easier for them to narrow down the seer/bg pool. Plus the 50% conversion chance. Should be fun though, we'll see which way the luck falls early on.

[Autumn]

Glad to see we're going. I think this is a great size for a game. Yeah, I'm not sure what is likely to be included, not too much help in guessing I don't think. I'll look over the list and throw out a vote before bed most likely.

[Autumn]

I'm off to bed. Looking over the list, I'm going to throw out the first vote, on Darth. He made it to the end last game, and frankly I just find Darth exasperatingly hard to get a read on in game. He saved our butts last game, but I spent the whole game wondering about him.

<b>VOTE DARTH VILUS</b>

[Narcizo]

Some interesting roles there. I think it's fairly safe to assume we have Westley, Inigo, Fezzik and Buttercup and maybe Miracle Max. I think the Grandpa role is very interesting but we might have to wait for the "full" game to see that. On the wolfy's side Humperdink is probably a given, unfortunately for us, along with Rugen. I think it would be inconceivable to have a Princess Bride game without Vizzini and I don't think there can, or should, be 5 wolves so I'd guess one of either the Albino or Clergyman are in.

[Danny]

16 players with a possible convert. I'd say we likely have 3 wolves with a slight chance at 4.

[Danny]

Actually, with EF downgrading the conversion chance to 50% that could be an indication there are four starting wolves.

[Narcizo]

Everyone is scared of being the first to cast a second vote so I'll save them the worry and try out a new (for me) day one voting tactic. Also, if left unchallenged he can easily glide to the end as he proved in the Batman game.

Vote Darth Vilus

[MrBug708]

Villager checking in

[bhlloy]

Checking in... I hope we have the grandpa role on our side as I think that's a really interesting and potentially powerful mechanic that we can use to negate a whole night of wolf actions. Mad Max would be less of a powerful role and I think we probably have one of the two.

If we had Grandpa along with the 50% conversion chance reduction that might point towards a possibility of 4 wolves but I doubt it. I'd have thought 3+ROUS would be more likely

[bhlloy]

DOLA - just re-read the rules and this would seem to imply that Miracle (not Mad) Max is in the game, so Grandpa would seem unlikely I guess...

There is one exception to this rule, the holocaust cloak will start with Miracle Max and he may select one player to give the cloak to by the day 2 deadline.

and

To be in the running for an item players must select that item on day one by the deadline. Use the same mechanic as the voting mechanic but use the phrase Select (Item Name). The winner of that item will be selected from the pool of players that selected the item. Miracle Max may select an item as he has to give away the cloak.

Or all villager roles are in the game, and that would make 4 wolves more likely. Or I'm just talking crap on day 1. I'm going to bed.

[Autumn]

I think three wolves are possible, if princess is in the game. I would think maybe even the game out with the ROUS instead of a real wolf, but I think he'd only be in the game if the cunning is, and that seems less likely, the clergyman being a more minor role. EF might have tried to throw us off though by not including the ones we'd expect, saving them for later.

Either way there's nothing we can do but assume anyone could be in it, which means we may have a cunning and we may have wolves that can scan for some of the villagers. We'll just hope our guys do well storming the castle!

[Autumn]

Good point about the cloak, Bhlloy.

Everyone make sure to remember to pick an item!

<b>Select Wheelbarrow</b>

[JAG]

Howdy y'all.

bhlloy, true, unless neither Max nor the cloak are in the game. I thin ED said all items might not be in the game.

I'm throwing down a vote for Chief Rum. He's not as active as he used to be and that makes him hard for me to read. Maybe this will light a fire under him (especially nice if he's wearing the holocaust cloak and holding a wheelbarrow):

Vote Chief Rum

And, guess I'll go for the wheelbarrow.

Select Wheelbarrow

[PackerFanatic]

Want to get a vote out, and I want to do it for someone I know will be around at least somewhat.

VOTE NARCIZO

[PackerFanatic]

SELECT WHEELBARROW

[JAG]

Grandpa - Villager Role. As he tells us this story he may decide if we need to skip ahead in the story. This power will allow him to negate a day. He may submit this action prior to the deadline. After the lynch is announced the game will be interupted by his grandson and he will begin telling the story again. The lynched player will remain alive and no wolf action that night.

If Grandpa is out there, is there some reason we wouldn't want him to use this power immediately? Basically we prevent the wolves from using their actions for a night at the cost of not finding out info from a lynch, our roled villagers can use their abilities, and lastly Grandpa can then reveal and we have a CoT of 1 right off the bat.

[Autumn]

Yeah, but that's no fun ...

[Narcizo]

I agree JAG, and obviously Grandpa doesn't want to reveal until after the lynch so the wolves won't be sure how they should act today. Have to admit I sort of skipped over the "wolf" part of "no wolf action that night" which really makes the role very powerful. (I thought it was no action at all). So I'd say, yeah Grandpa, if you're there you might want to get that power lined up.

Everyone is targeting the wheelbarrow so I'll go with the powder.

Select Iocane Powder

[Narcizo]

If Grandpa is in the game then I think 4 wolves + extras is a distinct possibility. Still tend to think that he won't be.

[Narcizo]

Want to get a vote out, and I want to do it for someone I know will be around at least somewhat.

VOTE NARCIZO

This would make a lot more sense if I was likely to be able to be around when it, you know, actually matters. :p

[bhlloy]

I'm not sure guys - it's the usual risk/reward, but potentially if Grandpa didn't use the power until after a seer reveal, potentially we could keep the seer alive for 3 more nights (BG/grandpa/BG) which is a pretty game changing mechanic, hell if Miracle Max is in there could even go for 4 nights.

So I wouldn't be opposed to using it right away, but on night 1 the wolves are usually just randomly killing somebody anyway. I'm not convinced it's best to just use and forget about.

On the flipside, we could not use it and grandpa gets whacked night 1 randomly. So there's always that. But I think the potential down the road might make it worth it. Thoughts?

[Lathum]

Left coaster checking in. Really busy next couple of days but will try and stay active.

[Telle]

Good morning all. Well it looks like I'm not the princess after all, so I guess we'll have to wait and see which one of you is wearing a skirt ;)

[Telle]

Votes as of post #118:

2 - Darth Vilus - Autumn (98), Narcizo (102)
1 - Chief Rum - JAG (108)
1 - Narcizo - PackerFanatic (109)

Yet to check in: Darth Vilus, Passacaglia, Chief Rum, ntndeacon, dacman

[Autumn]

Thank god Telle's playing, now we get vote counts!

[Autumn]

I think there's a good chance with this number that Grandpa isn't in the game, so I wouldn't sweat it too much.

I think after the mess we made of voting last game, we need to concentrate on having strong votes this game, give us something to analyze. Vote early, vote often!

[Telle]

Thank god Telle's playing, now we get vote counts!

Well I'm usually not a big talker in the games.. so it's good to have something to contribute :)

[Passacaglia]

Votes as of post #118:

2 - Darth Vilus - Autumn (98), Narcizo (102)
1 - Chief Rum - JAG (108)
1 - Narcizo - PackerFanatic (109)

Yet to check in: Darth Vilus, Passacaglia, Chief Rum, ntndeacon, dacman

I are a vanilla villager. Don't remember any of this about selecting items, I'll have to check it out again.

[The Jackal]

Might as well throw something out there. I'm not sure I'll be here at the deadline tonight, spur of the moment dinner invite from some friends, no time set.

VOTE CHIEF RUM

SELECT IOCANE POWDER

[mauchow]

vote narcizo
select wheelbarrow

Lets get them wolves!

[bhlloy]

I like CR the most out of the three up there so far, at least until he checks in and gives us some indication he's going to be around this game

Vote CR
Select Wheelbarrow

[Chief Rum]

16 players with a possible convert. I'd say we likely have 3 wolves with a slight chance at 4.

+1.

I am going with three wolves and the neutral role. I would guess five roled villagers.

P.S. I am a vanilla villager.

[Chief Rum]

Howdy y'all.

bhlloy, true, unless neither Max nor the cloak are in the game. I thin ED said all items might not be in the game.

I'm throwing down a vote for Chief Rum. He's not as active as he used to be and that makes him hard for me to read. Maybe this will light a fire under him (especially nice if he's wearing the holocaust cloak and holding a wheelbarrow):

Vote Chief Rum

And, guess I'll go for the wheelbarrow.

Select Wheelbarrow

Actually, I was going to make a concerted effort to be more active in this one, thank you. Of course, that means wolves will no doubt be more inclined to kill me quickly.

So if you want to leave your vote there, wolfy, I understand. ;)

[Chief Rum]

SELECT IOCANE POWDER

[Chief Rum]

I like CR the most out of the three up there so far, at least until he checks in and gives us some indication he's going to be around this game

Vote CR
Select Wheelbarrow

Done.

[bhlloy]

Cool, it will be good to have you around and active for this one

I'll probably move that vote later to somebody who is less active as I really feel strongly about weeding out the coasters early on for once. For now I'm gonna leave it and see where the movement takes us.

[Chief Rum]

I think the scanners on the wolf side and the possibility of a conversion happening (the Princess HAS to be in the game, even as a non-essential villager role, it's the Princess Bride game for Pete's sake, so we can count on a conversion possibility) makes for no more than three wolves. That would be too unbalancing to have a fourth on top of a conversiojn possibility.

Plus, neutral roles always find their way into games like these, so I am going to guess we have the Dread Pirate Roberts here as well. While that doesn't necessarily help the wolves, I'll bet that hurts the villagers more.

Going on this logic, I have to figure we have Humperdink, Vezzini and Count Rugen in the game. The Man in Black, Fezzik, Inigo, The Princess and Miracle Max would be in the game for the good guys, I think. And the Dread Pirate Roberts.

That's 9 roled players and 7 unrolled (all villagers). All items are in the game, presumeably.

[Chief Rum]

EF, sorry if this has already been asked. I see you have stated that not all the roles are in the game...

Question for the Mod: Do the wolves know what roles are in the game?

[EagleFan]

As of post 132:

Darth Vilus 2 - Autumn (98), Narcizo (102)
Chief Rum 3 - JAG (108), The Jackal (124), bhlloy (126)
Narcizo 2 - PackerFanatic (109), mauboy1 (125)


Ioccane Powder - Narcizo (113), The Jackal (124), Chief Rum (129)
Wheelbarrow - Autumn (107), JAG (108), PackerFanatic (110), mauboy1 (125), bhlloy (126)

[EagleFan]

Roles

- The number of players that sign up will determine what roles are used.
- If there are unused roles the wolves will be told of one role that is not in the game.
- Only roles which are published in the roles posting will be in the game, no hidden roles (there may be hidden win conditions).


:)

[Chief Rum]

:)

Sure, just throw that it my face. :D

I was testing you, make sure you knew your own rules. Later on, I'm going to quiz you on Miracle Max; you better study up.

[Narcizo]

I'm not sure guys - it's the usual risk/reward, but potentially if Grandpa didn't use the power until after a seer reveal, potentially we could keep the seer alive for 3 more nights (BG/grandpa/BG) which is a pretty game changing mechanic, hell if Miracle Max is in there could even go for 4 nights.


I really don't see any drawback with it. Your scenario only works if Westley, Grandpa and Fizzik survive until the time that Westley reveals. Why take that risk when there's the chance to, basically, make it day one tomorrow except with a lot more information available to the village. Presuming the game is balanced then we have to make optimal use of all the powers available to us.

I still doubt that the role is in the game. Seems like the most likely village role to be culled.

[Lathum]

I am a little suspect of the run on CR givenhe can be a great asset to the village. For now

Vote Bholly
Vote Wheelbarrel

[MrBug708]

Vote - Autumn

Vote - Wheelbarrow

[JAG]

Unvote CR

Nice to have you back. :)

[Autumn]

Why's everybody loving the wheelbarrow so much?

[Chief Rum]

Why's everybody loving the wheelbarrow so much?

Because if they go with the Iocane Powder, they're afraid they may need to use their wits to escape a lynch.

[The Jackal]

I am a little suspect of the run on CR givenhe can be a great asset to the village. For now

Vote Bholly
Vote Wheelbarrel

The way he phrased his vote, "I like CR the most out of the three people up there" struck me as a bit odd. What do you like about him over the others? It's D1 and he hadn't made a post yet.

UNVOTE CR
VOTE BHLLOY

[bhlloy]

Let's try and draw out another inactive player

Unvote CR
Vote ntndeacon

[bhlloy]

The way he phrased his vote, "I like CR the most out of the three people up there" struck me as a bit odd. What do you like about him over the others? It's D1 and he hadn't made a post yet.

UNVOTE CR
VOTE BHLLOY

I pretty clearly stated it was because he hadn't shown up yet and had been very inactive in all the games he had played recently

[The Jackal]

I pretty clearly stated it was because he hadn't shown up yet and had been very inactive in all the games he had played recently

You said until he checks in, yes. Not the second thing. Having played with him a fair amount he tends to post in bunches when he has time to, though I also recall he's been inactive recently. But I don't think you said that!

It just struck me as weird, is all, maybe just me.

[The Jackal]

The joy of overanalyzing the tone and language of posts on D1! Though it's not a terrible idea. Having much recent knowledge at the stress that goes into posting when you are a wolf, little things tend to come up in your language.

[The Jackal]

FWIW I like drawing out inactive players early too. I think I've been on DV about that a lot lately, he seems to forget games have started or rarely post on D1 which makes it harder to read him later on.

[Narcizo]

The way he phrased his vote, "I like CR the most out of the three people up there" struck me as a bit odd. What do you like about him over the others?

Well to be fair, one of them was me so it halfway makes sense. :)

[Telle]

Votes as of post #148:

2 - Darth Vilus - Autumn (98), Narcizo (102)
2 - Narcizo - PackerFanatic (109), mauboy (125)
2 - bhlloy - Lathum (138), The Jackal (143)
1 - Autumn - MrBug (139)
1 - ntndeacon - bhlloy (144)

Yet to vote: Danny, Darth Vilus, Passacaglia, Chief Rum, ntndeacon, dacman, Telle, JAG

Yet to check in: Darth Vilus, ntndeacon, dacman

[Passacaglia]

Q: What if there is a tie vote, and everyone voted for one of the players who was tied?

[Narcizo]

The joy of overanalyzing the tone and language of posts on D1! Though it's not a terrible idea. Having much recent knowledge at the stress that goes into posting when you are a wolf, little things tend to come up in your language.

I tend to stress more posting when I'm a villager. When I'm a wolf I'm so busy trying to think about what I'd say were I a villager that I tend to forget that there's stuff that could damage the team which I shouldn't be saying.

[Narcizo]

Q: What if there is a tie vote, and everyone voted for one of the players who was tied?

Then you get lynched for being a Smart Alec.

Hi there Passa. :)

[Passacaglia]

Then you get lynched for being a Smart Alec.

Hi there Passa. :)

Hi! :)

It was a legitimate question, though -- if the vote is like 7-7 or something, there's no one eligible to be lynched by the rules. Does that mean there's no lynch?

[Passacaglia]

Just saw there's 16 of us, so make that an 8-8 tie.

[Lathum]

Let's try and draw out another inactive player

Unvote CR
Vote ntndeacon

This doesnt make me feel any better about you. A d1 vote for NTN beaing inactive is a pretty easy place to hide given his playing style.

[bhlloy]

You said until he checks in, yes. Not the second thing. Having played with him a fair amount he tends to post in bunches when he has time to, though I also recall he's been inactive recently. But I don't think you said that!

It just struck me as weird, is all, maybe just me.

I think it's pretty strongly implied in the phrase and gives us some indication he's going to be around this game, no?

[The Jackal]

I think it's pretty strongly implied in the phrase and gives us some indication he's going to be around this game, no?

Okay I'm not gonna get into an argument of semantics here. But to be fair DV has been more of a no-show recently, and CR is a very valuable villager even if he only has time to do his bunch posting. Not saying DV isn't valuable, he made a great/tough decision last game, but if you're gonna put a third vote on someone to encourage them to post more I'd wager it should be DV.

Then there's Narcizo, why -wouldn't- you want to vote for him?! ;)

[Narcizo]

FEAR THE WRATH OF NARK!

[Autumn]

I'm out until later this evening.

[Narcizo]

I know! Let's all vote someone who says something because it's easy to read that as suspicious. And not vote for someone not saying anything. Because at least they're not saying anything suspicious.

Part 56.

[The Jackal]

You forgot the part where we vote for the first person to put the second vote on someone!

[ntndeacon]

This doesnt make me feel any better about you. A d1 vote for NTN beaing inactive is a pretty easy place to hide given his playing style.

Especially when he has only now gotten to a computer!

[ntndeacon]

Vote Wheelbarrow

[ntndeacon]

Vote bhlloy

[Narcizo]

Well, this is all very exciting. I think this is the first time I've had more than one vote on day one. I shall have to leave you for now. Have fun.

[EagleFan]

As of post 166:

bhlloy 3 - Lathum (138), The Jackal (143), ntndeacon (165)
Darth Vilus 2 - Autumn (98), Narcizo (102)
Narcizo 2 - PackerFanatic (109), mauboy1 (125)
ntndeacon 1 - bhlloy (144)
Autumn 1 - MrBug708 (139)


Ioccane Powder - Narcizo (113), The Jackal (124), Chief Rum (129)
Wheelbarrow - Autumn (107), JAG (108), PackerFanatic (110), mauboy1 (125), bhlloy (126), Lathum (138), MrBug708 (139), ntndeacon (164)

[EagleFan]

Q: What if there is a tie vote, and everyone voted for one of the players who was tied?

I'll take the suggestion of you being lynched?

Actually at that point there would be no lynch, if you want to risk starting that chain of events with the tie lynch vote rules... :)

[PackerFanatic]

As of post 166:

bhlloy 3 - Lathum (138), The Jackal (143), ntndeacon (165)
Darth Vilus 2 - Autumn (98), Narcizo (102)
Narcizo 2 - PackerFanatic (109), mauboy1 (125)
Chief Rum 1 - bhlloy (126)
Autumn 1 - MrBug708 (139)


Ioccane Powder - Narcizo (113), The Jackal (124), Chief Rum (129)
Wheelbarrow - Autumn (107), JAG (108), PackerFanatic (110), mauboy1 (125), bhlloy (126), Lathum (138), MrBug708 (139), ntndeacon (164)

bhlloy's vote is on ntndeacon now (post 144)

[Passacaglia]

Putting in a vote now in case I don't get back on tonight

VOTE DARTH VILUS
SELECT WHEELBARROW

[Darth Vilus]

Select Ioccane Powder

[Darth Vilus]

Vote Narcizo

If i were a wolf I would try to get the powder in case i were in danger of being lynched, that would give me a chance at survival. If the wolves get it can't they just pass it between themselves?

[Darth Vilus]

I'm a vaniila by the way FWIW

[Darth Vilus]

The powder might not be in the game but I'd rather take a chance at getting it just to make it harder for the wolves to get it in case it is in the game

[Darth Vilus]

Vote Narcizo

If i were a wolf I would try to get the powder in case i were in danger of being lynched, that would give me a chance at survival. If the wolves get it can't they just pass it between themselves?

If it wasn't clear this is why i voted for Narcizo :D

[The Jackal]

Select Ioccane Powder

If i were a wolf I would try to get the powder in case i were in danger of being lynched, that would give me a chance at survival. If the wolves get it can't they just pass it between themselves?

This was rather amusing in back to back posts. :)

But I understand the thinking. You'd think there's gotta be at least one wolf on the powder, unless they specifically decided that would be a villager strategy that could lead us astray (targeting groups of item selecters).

[Darth Vilus]

i wouldnt mind a narcizo and Chief Rum run off. I'd give jackal a day break because he was a wolf in the last game

[The Jackal]

The powder might not be in the game but I'd rather take a chance at getting it just to make it harder for the wolves to get it in case it is in the game

I think it is safe to say the powder is in the game. I don't think EF would have given us the option to select it if it wasn't.

[Darth Vilus]

This was rather amusing in back to back posts. :)

But I understand the thinking. You'd think there's gotta be at least one wolf on the powder, unless they specifically decided that would be a villager strategy that could lead us astray (targeting groups of item selecters).

Yeah i noticed that lol. Even if people didnt want to vote for those candidates it would be better to select the powder instead of the wheelbarrow in my opinion. I'd like to keep something like that out of the wolves' paws

[The Jackal]

Yeah there's a rather strange small amount of people on the powder. I was planning on choosing it all along, moreso because it was an awesome part of the movie than the skill it gives. But if I won it it would give me the chance of a foreshadowed battle of wits with JAG!

[The Jackal]

(this is what I was referring to in the above post)

JAG I challenge you to (another) battle of wits!

[Darth Vilus]

yeah you're right, I misread it. It's in the game

[The Jackal]

Presumably the wheelbarrow will either be 1) wasted by a villager choosing a random target, 2) used by a villager to luckily prevent a NK, 3) used by the wolves on one of their own to buy trust, 4) used by the wolves on the BG if their scanning role is in the game and they find him

Maybe I missed something but the powder seems like something we'd be more concerned with narrowing the odds that a wolf would get it.

[Darth Vilus]

Way to bite off exactly what I just said

[Darth Vilus]

:cool:

[The Jackal]

Oh, and it turns out those dinner plans were cancelled, so I might be here for the deadline after all!

[The Jackal]

Way to bite off exactly what I just said

I expanded on it! Actually I re-typed that post a couple times as I was thinking fluidly, the first one credited you with the idea. I don't know what happened! :)

[EagleFan]

As of post 186:

bhlloy 3 - Lathum (138), The Jackal (143), ntndeacon (165)
Darth Vilus 3 - Autumn (98), Narcizo (102), Passacaglia (170)
Narcizo 3 - PackerFanatic (109), mauboy1 (125), Darth Vilus (172)
ntndeacon 1 - bhlloy (144)
Autumn 1 - MrBug708 (139)


Ioccane Powder - Narcizo (113), The Jackal (124), Chief Rum (129), Darth Vilus (171)
Wheelbarrow - Autumn (107), JAG (108), PackerFanatic (110), mauboy1 (125), bhlloy (126), Lathum (138), MrBug708 (139), ntndeacon (164), Passacaglia (170)

[Darth Vilus]

Oh yeah, I'm not going to be here by deadline, i have to head out to work in about an hour and a half. Working for 4 ****ing hours! i hate my job

[Chief Rum]

I like that Darth is more active than normal on Day One (just like me). I don't like he wants a runoff between me and Narcizo. I don't have much else to go on at this point.

VOTE DARTH VILUS

[Darth Vilus]

mhmm, sure chief. you don't have a single vote yet, what danger are you in?

[MrBug708]

unvote Autumn

vote Narizco

[Chief Rum]

mhmm, sure chief. you don't have a single vote yet, what danger are you in?

I did have votes. I have definitely been in the discussion. So it's not farfetched to look askance at a desire to vote me (which I would even with no suspicion, who likes to be targeted?). And besides, there were three players with three votes each, you included. Almost certainly I was going to vote for one of those three. On Day One, where we have nothing to go on, you targeting me is all I need, don't you think?

[Darth Vilus]

Just seemed like you were trying to justify your vote early. it's day 1 so everyone knows votes are all over the place. You just made it sound like you were fearful for yourself annd i dont see a reason to be.

As of post #188 you don't have a single vote, you just rubbed me the wrong way

[The Jackal]

In CR's defense he had three early votes (JAG, myself, and bhlloy), but we all switched shortly after he checked in. So even if he didn't have any votes when you came into the thread, he's likely felt like he's been in self-defense mode since he came in today.

[JAG]

Presumably the wheelbarrow will either be 1) wasted by a villager choosing a random target, 2) used by a villager to luckily prevent a NK, 3) used by the wolves on one of their own to buy trust, 4) used by the wolves on the BG if their scanning role is in the game and they find him

Maybe I missed something but the powder seems like something we'd be more concerned with narrowing the odds that a wolf would get it.

That's a solid point actually. I went wheelbarrow because I figured I'd probably have better odds of using it successfully than being lynched and getting a chance to use the powder, but if a wolf used the powder successfully, they would not only avoid the lynch and lynch a villager in their place, they would waste a day of voting the following day when everyone piled on them. Playing this defensively might make more sense.

Unselect wheelbarrow
Select iocane powder

Vote bhlloy

Think this ties it up at 4.

[Danny]

Three people at 4 votes each, I'm going to get a vote in here just in case I fall asleep as I feel the need for a nap and don't mind breaking the tie

[Danny]

select iocane powder

I'll look it over a bit more before voting

[Danny]

I do find it a bit interesting bh and darth don't have their votes on each other.

I'm going to go with bhlloy for now.

Vote bhlloy

[Darth Vilus]

I didnt vote him yet cause I'd still rather see a narcizo lynch. i'll move before i leave if i have to

[Telle]

vote Darth Vilus

Fairly random Day 1 vote, taken from amongst the top vote getters.

[Telle]

select iocane powder

[EagleFan]

As of post 202:

bhlloy 5 - Lathum (138), The Jackal (143), ntndeacon (165), JAG (196), Danny (199)
Darth Vilus 5 - Autumn (98), Narcizo (102), Passacaglia (170), Chief Rum (190), Telle (201)
Narcizo 4 - PackerFanatic (109), mauboy1 (125), Darth Vilus (172), MrBug 708 (192)
ntndeacon 1 - bhlloy (144)


Iocane Powder - Narcizo (113), The Jackal (124), Chief Rum (129), Darth Vilus (171). JAG (196), Danny (198), Telle (202)
Wheelbarrow - Autumn (107), PackerFanatic (110), mauboy1 (125), bhlloy (126), Lathum (138), MrBug708 (139), ntndeacon (164), Passacaglia (170)

[Telle]

Votes as of post #202:

5 - Darth Vilus - Autumn (98), Narcizo (102), Passacaglia (170), Chief Rum (190), Telle (201)
4 - Narcizo - PackerFanatic (109), mauboy (125), Darth Vilus (172), MrBug (192)
5 - bhlloy - Lathum (138), The Jackal (143), ntndeacon (165), JAG (196), Danny (199)
1 - ntndeacon - bhlloy (144)

Yet to vote: Darth Vilus, dacman

Yet to check in: dacman

[Chief Rum]

In CR's defense he had three early votes (JAG, myself, and bhlloy), but we all switched shortly after he checked in. So even if he didn't have any votes when you came into the thread, he's likely felt like he's been in self-defense mode since he came in today.

Exactly. What The Jackal said.

Funny, I am rubbing you the wrong way, Darth, considering it was you who threw me out there as a possibility with Narcizo. I wasn't even looking at you before you did that. Sorry that what yuo actually post here leads to consequences like me voting for you.

At this point, I am pretty comfy with where my vote is currently.

[EagleFan]

Votes as of post #202:

5 - Darth Vilus - Autumn (98), Narcizo (102), Passacaglia (170), Chief Rum (190), Telle (201)
4 - Narcizo - PackerFanatic (109), mauboy (125), Darth Vilus (172), MrBug (192)
5 - bhlloy - Lathum (138), The Jackal (143), ntndeacon (165), JAG (196), Danny (199)
1 - ntndeacon - bhlloy (144)

Yet to vote: Darth Vilus, dacman

Yet to check in: dacman

Darth voted

[Darth Vilus]

Votes as of post #202:

5 - Darth Vilus - Autumn (98), Narcizo (102), Passacaglia (170), Chief Rum (190), Telle (201)
4 - Narcizo - PackerFanatic (109), mauboy (125), Darth Vilus (172), MrBug (192)
5 - bhlloy - Lathum (138), The Jackal (143), ntndeacon (165), JAG (196), Danny (199)
1 - ntndeacon - bhlloy (144)

Yet to vote: Darth Vilus, dacman

Yet to check in: dacman

My vote is currently on narcizo

[Telle]

Darth voted

Thanks!

[Darth Vilus]

And vote for me if you think im a wolf, dont vote foor me just becasue i brought your name up. that seems sort of petty to me

[EagleFan]

Went back to using IE after using Chrome for a little while and I am still having an issue with the View First Unread button. It takes me back to the same post as the very first time I used that button in the thread. It has done that ever snce I went to IE 9.

Has anyone else run into this? If so, have you found a solution for it?

[Chief Rum]

And vote for me if you think im a wolf, dont vote foor me just becasue i brought your name up. that seems sort of petty to me

You realize it's Day One right?

[Telle]

You realize it's Day One right?

Hehe.. exactly what I was thinking. Wasn't going to say so though, 'cause that would be defending somebody without reason and we all know that's a wolf move ;)

[Autumn]

I think this is right, if it's of any use to anyone:

Autumn votes darth 1
Narc votes darth 2
jag votes chief 2-1
packerfan votes narc 2-1-1
jackal votes chief rum 2-2-1
mauboy votes narcizo 2-2-2
bhlloy votes chief rum 3-2-2
lathum votes bhlloy 3-2-2-1
mrbug votes autumn 3-2-2-1-1
jag unvotes chief 2-2-2-1-1
jackal unvotes chief 2-2-1-1-1
jackal votes bhlloy 2-2-2-1-1
bhlloy unvotes chief 2-2-2-1
bhlloy votes ntndeacon 2-2-2-1-1
ntn votes bhlloy 3-2-2-1-1
pass votes darth 3-3-2-1-1
dadrth votes narcizo 3-3-3-1-1
chief votes darth 4-3-3-1-1
mrbug unvotes autumn 4-3-3-1
mrbug votes narcizo 4-4-3-1
jag votes bhlloy 4-4-4-1
danny votes bhlloy 5-4-4-1
telle votes darth 5-5-4-1

[Autumn]

Hehe.. exactly what I was thinking. Wasn't going to say so though, 'cause that would be defending somebody without reason and we all know that's a wolf move ;)

Hmm, agreeing with someone else's point without adding anything of your own ... that's a wolf move ;-)

[Telle]

Hmm, agreeing with someone else's point without adding anything of your own ... that's a wolf move ;-)

Damnit!!

[Darth Vilus]

yeah but it looks like you're trying to use that as an excuse. i think you're too good of a player to be playing the way you are.

[Darth Vilus]

unvote narcizo

vote bhlloy

Just a self preservation at this point, i think he's a villager. I strongly suggest looking at Chief Rum, Narcizo and (for good measure) Jackal in the future. I have an inkling that i won't make it through the lynch

[Darth Vilus]

heading out now, see ya in a few hours. and I'd pick chief over the other two first

[The Jackal]

I strongly suggest looking at Chief Rum, Narcizo and (for good measure) Jackal in the future. I have an inkling that i won't make it through the lynch

We should all strongly be looked at because we were the first three to select iocane powder? Or what? I don't really get this, though since you've mentioned me I'm probably being over defensive.

[EagleFan]

As of post 219:

bhlloy 6 - Lathum (138), The Jackal (143), ntndeacon (165), JAG (196), Danny (199), Darth Vilus (217)
Darth Vilus 5 - Autumn (98), Narcizo (102), Passacaglia (170), Chief Rum (190), Telle (201)
Narcizo 3 - PackerFanatic (109), mauboy1 (125), MrBug 708 (192)
ntndeacon 1 - bhlloy (144)


Iocane Powder - Narcizo (113), The Jackal (124), Chief Rum (129), Darth Vilus (171). JAG (196), Danny (198), Telle (202)
Wheelbarrow - Autumn (107), PackerFanatic (110), mauboy1 (125), bhlloy (126), Lathum (138), MrBug708 (139), ntndeacon (164), Passacaglia (170)

[mauchow]

unvote narcizo
vote darth vilus

Seems to be talking kinda funny being in the position he's in. He's already making judgments by picking out a few people and saying he's still rather go towards a specific person.

[Autumn]

I agree, Mauboy, I'm happy with my vote.

[The Jackal]

I don't really have much on bhlloy besides a tiny bit of semantics, and DV is pinging all over.

unvote bhlloy
vote DV

[EagleFan]

As of post 223:

Darth Vilus 7 - Autumn (98), Narcizo (102), Passacaglia (170), Chief Rum (190), Telle (201), mayboy1 (221), The Jackal (223)
bhlloy 5 - Lathum (138), ntndeacon (165), JAG (196), Danny (199), Darth Vilus (217)
Narcizo 2 - PackerFanatic (109), MrBug 708 (192)
ntndeacon 1 - bhlloy (144)


Iocane Powder - Narcizo (113), The Jackal (124), Chief Rum (129), Darth Vilus (171). JAG (196), Danny (198), Telle (202)
Wheelbarrow - Autumn (107), PackerFanatic (110), mauboy1 (125), bhlloy (126), Lathum (138), MrBug708 (139), ntndeacon (164), Passacaglia (170)

[bhlloy]

Sorry DV, I'd like to keep the margin between us as big as possible right now. I hate, hate, hate that we've turned this into a day 1 lynch of people who have been active in the thread (like we always do), and I'd much rather look at someone who checked in early and has done squat since then as that is what a wolf does 9 times out of 10, but obviously that's not going to happen now.

unvote ntndeacon
vote darth vilus

[PackerFanatic]

UNSELECT WHEELBARROW
SELECT IOCANE POWDER

UNVOTE NARCIZO
VOTE DARTH VILUS

[PackerFanatic]

Not a fan of the sudden turn toward DV, although he is pinging me the most between him and bhlloy.

[Autumn]

Why would you vote him if you don't like the run on him?

[EagleFan]

As of post 227:

Darth Vilus 9 - Autumn (98), Narcizo (102), Passacaglia (170), Chief Rum (190), Telle (201), mayboy1 (221), The Jackal (223), bhlloy (225), PackerFanatic (226)
bhlloy 5 - Lathum (138), ntndeacon (165), JAG (196), Danny (199), Darth Vilus (217)
Narcizo 1 - MrBug 708 (192)


Iocane Powder - Narcizo (113), The Jackal (124), Chief Rum (129), Darth Vilus (171). JAG (196), Danny (198), Telle (202), PackerFanatic (226)
Wheelbarrow - Autumn (107), mauboy1 (125), bhlloy (126), Lathum (138), MrBug708 (139), ntndeacon (164), Passacaglia (170)

[bhlloy]

Autumn - what happened to vote early and vote often? How do you feel about the fact that we've basically turned day 1 into a run on the people who have been vocal again?

[PackerFanatic]

Because like I said, he is pinging me the most...when I had my post in, it was the 8th vote on him. Bhlloy snuck his in to make mine the 9th. I still think he is the way to go tonight, but that doesn't mean the run on him isn't suspicious.

[EagleFan]

Some trivia from the movie:

Despite his character Fezzik's almost-superhuman strength, André the Giant's back problems at the time prevented him from actually lifting anything heavy. Robin Wright had to be attached to wires in the scene where Buttercup jumps from the castle window into Fezzik's arms because he couldn't support her himself.

While rehearsing for the film, André the Giant's thick accent prevented many of his lines from being understood. To remedy this, actor Mandy Patinkin slapped André in the face to get him to concentrate harder.

When Count Rugen hits Westley over the head, Cary Elwes told Christopher Guest to go ahead and hit him for real. Guest hit him hard enough to shut down production for a day while Elwes went to the hospital.

The video baseball game the Grandson in playing during the first scene is "Hardball" produced by Accolade, Inc., in 1985. It was widely available in the mid-1980s for the Commodore 64 computer system. It was a one or two-player game. The sound was not from the actual game, but later added.

The giant rodents were created with diminutive actors inside rat suits. On the day Westley was supposed to battle the giant rat, the "rat actor" was pulled over for speeding and subsequently arrested, and actually had to be bailed out of jail by the filmmakers so the scene could be filmed.

[Autumn]

Well, bhlloy, to my mind the reason we vote people who aren't vocal, is to make them get vocal. And the reason we wnat them vocal is so we can guess if they're a wolf. Darth opened his mouth up enough to convince people he might be a wolf.

I agree that we often vote villagers because they're saying things, instead of quiet wolves. But it's day one, and I think a vote for someone who spoke up and pinged you is probably better than just randomly voting a quiet person.

Someone's always going to get piled on day one, because no one has anything to go by really other than "well these guys have vote already."

[EagleFan]

The town crier can be heard...

Gather round, in the town square. We lynch tonight!!!

The time is drawing near.

[EagleFan]

deadline

[EagleFan]

The town has decided. After a close debate all day one candiate has risen above the rest. Darth Vilus must be one of the so called wolves amongst us.

He must be brought to justice.

He is led to the gallows. He does not resist but seem to be waiting for the crowd to come to their senses.

He refuses the hood and the noose is lowered over his head.

"Wait!!! Please spare my husband's life!!!"

Who spoke? The crowd looks around.

"He must die!" Another calls out.

"First, I have one question? Do you have 6 fingers on your right hand?"

What kind of question is that? Darth holds up his hand and it is clear to see that he has just 5 fingers.

Then the lever is pulled and Darth drops to his death.

The body is retrieved and you discover that he was just a regular citizen.


Darth was a vanilla villager.

[EagleFan]

Processing the night results. Will first process the wolves' actions, then the roled villagers' actions and then the draw for he items.

[The Jackal]

Well that's unfortunate, sorry DV

[Autumn]

Oops. Sorry Darth.

Autumn votes darth 1
Narc votes darth 2
jag votes chief 2-1
packerfan votes narc 2-1-1
jackal votes chief rum 2-2-1
mauboy votes narcizo 2-2-2
bhlloy votes chief rum 3-2-2
lathum votes bhlloy 3-2-2-1
mrbug votes autumn 3-2-2-1-1
jag unvotes chief 2-2-2-1-1
jackal unvotes chief 2-2-1-1-1
jackal votes bhlloy 2-2-2-1-1
bhlloy unvotes chief 2-2-2-1
bhlloy votes ntndeacon 2-2-2-1-1
ntn votes bhlloy 3-2-2-1-1
pass votes darth 3-3-2-1-1
dadrth votes narcizo 3-3-3-1-1
chief votes darth 4-3-3-1-1
mrbug unvotes autumn 4-3-3-1
mrbug votes narcizo 4-4-3-1
jag votes bhlloy 4-4-4-1
danny votes bhlloy 5-4-4-1
telle votes darth 5-5-4-1
darth unvotes narc 5-5-3-1
darth votes bhlloy 6-5-3-1
mauboy unvotes narc 6-5-2-1
mauboy votes darth 6-6-2-1
jackal unvotes bhlloy 6-5-2-1
jackal votes darth 7-5-2-1
bhlloy unvotes ntn 7-5-2
bhlloy votes darth 8-5-2
pf unvotes narc 8-5-1
pf votes darth 9-5-1

[Autumn]

First thing that jumps out at me is PF voting for Darth while saying he doesn't like the run. Classic wolf move of reluctantly going along with the village knowing that a villager's about ot get killed. Looking at the vote history, PF voted elsewhere early this morning, and then only switched to Darth when it was a runaway.

And yes, PF, I know there are plenty of villager reasons for all of that too. I'll keep digging and see who else pops out.

[Autumn]

Looking to imagine that if Bhlloy was a wolf, there would be a move to shift to Darth by wolves at the end. Jackal would be the primemover there, but his vote on bhlloy early mitigates that. If bhlloy happened to be a wolf, mauboy would look the worst, but not particularly so.

A key juncture, if there were any wolves voted for today, would be more around the middle of the pack when we had a 3-3-3 tie. We can't say much of anything about it at this point though with the info we have.

[bhlloy]

shocker

[Danny]

heading out now, see ya in a few hours. and I'd pick chief over the other two first

He posts this and then a wave of votes for him. Either something wolfish or bad villager play

[Autumn]

I don't think it was bad play, Danny, I think Darth managed to convince three more people that he was a wolf by what he posted while he was here. It's not like Darth didn't realize he was a prime candidate at that point.

[EagleFan]

The morning roles around. As you gather at the town square you notice that one person is missing. You begin to take role call.

Darth!!! Has anyone seen Darth?!??!

Yes, he is swinging from the tree over there.

Oh, yeah. Who else is missing?

bhlloy cannot be found.

You search and find that he met with a brutal death, he was stabbed from behind.

bhlloy was a vanilla villager.

[Danny]

It's a bad play because they didn't vote him before he left. He wasn't in awful shape when he left and in the event he had an important role, it was a bad move for everyone to vote for him later rather than earlier

[EagleFan]

About to draw for the items and then I will post that day two has begun (after I send out the item PM's).

[The Jackal]

That's a rather surprising kill if you ask me, but at least he was vanilla. I sure had my sights on the wrong people today.

[Danny]

At least they were only vanilla

[Autumn]

That's odd.