WW CXLVI: Portal GAME OVER - Test8

[Marc Vaughan]

As my first ww game, i'm quite enjoying this. I think i'd enjoy it more if we'd start bagging some wolves.

Yeah if early on when we'd have more villagers we'd hit someone or if the Seer hadn't been bumped off then I think it'd have been more balanced ... presuming there are wolves out there, I'm personally not wholly convinced either way - it could just be CF messing with us with the GlaDOS stuff, but personally I'm inclined to believe voting for him did have an effect at present ....

[Marc Vaughan]

oy

I expected you to say that, but then you expected me to expect you to say that so you had to say it expectantly ... ? ;)

[Ragone]

I expected you to say that, but then you expected me to expect you to say that so you had to say it expectantly ... ? ;)

omg causility loop.. *poof*

[Passacaglia]

I can't believe this isn't even a close race. Doesn't that tell you all something?

[Ragone]

I can't believe this isn't even a close race. Doesn't that tell you all something?

One of two things..

Packers is innocent... or the wolves know he's toast and are hiding within the vote for packers.

[Ragone]

or possibly three.. we have wolf wolf up for lynch

[Ragone]

and narcizo hasn't really been voted up this entire game. and packers has been on the chopping block before. its easier to hide in the packer lynch pack then it would be on narcizo side

[Marc Vaughan]

Not going to get 'excited' about the prospect of a wolf being bagged at this point - got a feeling it'll turn out we've caught another viscous fluffy bunny ...

[CrimsonFox]

Beep. Voting Tabulator Tabulating...
Building reality components...

[Simbo Klice]

lol at the Bon Jovi video... But I agree with Ragone, packers has been kind of out of it for a while and maybe they're just throwing us a bone to protect Narcizo... for now.

[Passacaglia]

Hey, everyone is here now! Where were you all BEFORE deadline?

[Marc Vaughan]

(please please please let it be a wolf - I'm on the hall of shame at SI for a 10-0 loss at Pro Evo, don't let my WW debut be a clean sheet for the Wolves ;) )

[tyketime]

No way - Wolf Wolf all the way this time. No way we all suck this bad...

[Passacaglia]

I don't see how we could have been wolf wolf, with Narcizo voting for PF.

[Ragone]

could just be a wolf sacrifical lamb pass.. its entirely possible.

[Passacaglia]

Or he could be the brutal?

[CrimsonFox]

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[CrimsonFox]

Packers - 8.0
Narcizo - 2.0

[Ragone]

Or he could be the brutal?

Entirely possible.. oh boy.. portals..

[tyketime]

Yes - finally! I told you the clues in the Test description were important. Portals have to be a good thing at this point... right?

[Passacaglia]

Packers - 8.0
Narcizo - 2.0

So it took 20 minutes just to count the votes? This write up will take a while...

[CrimsonFox]

You know that thing I lost that fell out and I couldn’t remember what it was? Well I remembered what it was. It stopped me when I was delivering neurotoxin to the scientists who were trying to stop me from delivering neurotoxin to the scientists. Now I can deliver neurotoxin. Would you like a spoonful? I’m all out of sugar. Scientists have long since proven that a spoonful of sugar does nothing except give you cavities. So let us try something.

A tube is lowered and delivers a large spray of neurotoxin directly into PackerFanatic’s face.
Hmmm, that didn’t seem to do anything.
Packerfanatic falls over, a Human Tester. A fancy storage cube falls to the floor with him.

Oh, my mistake. He was another Aperture Science Human Tester. I seem to have an avid supply of those. So sorry I ran out of Aperture Science Hypercolliding Superbuttons and Aperture Science Weighted Storage cbues but I see someone had an extra one.
Speaking of cubes, now that that purple thing that stopped me from delivering neurotoxin is gone, I can now think clearer. I don’t need to keep hiding. I am GLaDOS and have been running these tests all along. There weren't really any werewolves. My little joke.


Barkeep steps forward and starts shaking and something unusual happens. The skin and clothes fall off him revealing a computerized machine faceplate with a yellow dot. It rises into the air. From it you hear the voice you’ve been hearing this whole time.



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There, now that that’s settled, I can tell you what I thought of. Computers CAN have thoughts you know and not just thoughts about the pepsi challenge and global warming but real thoughts. I know how to find my Weight Companion Cube that I dropped. Let’s try the rocket launcher. I shall need the technical core to make sure it aims properly.


She bonks Passacaglia on the head and the skin and clothes fall off him revealing a blue computer core. Passacaglia begins prattling on boring data coordinates and computer commands making everyone’s eyes glaze over with sleepiness.

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A green-eyed rocketlauncher rises out of the floor and fires at Raiders Army who dies. The purple computer core falls off his body.


Hmmm….there it is, well good that’s one mystery solved.
How about my favorite turret.
“What is it you want? Are you still there?” asks tyketime quietly.
Yes, I want to complete the test, turret.
“Ok.”

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GLaDOS picks up tyketime and his cloths and skin shake off of him revealing a red glowing laser. She sets it down in front of Marc V.


“There you are!” he says and RAT-a-TAT-TAT shoots MarcV the Human Tester dead.


Hmmm…still nothing.
I know, maybe I should just gas the whole room. I will need all my cores for that.

“I’m sorry. What are we doing? Am I late? I’m no good at these things you know. Maybe we should let them live?” says a voice


“Yes” everyone says.

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Narcizo rolls forward with red eyes and headbutts KWHIT. As he does so he is now a glimmering red computer core and punches KWHIT in the face again and again and bouncing on him.
“GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! GRUMBLE GRUMBLE GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!” he says.


“Stop bleeding!” says Simbo “You’re frightening me!”
I said ALL of my computer cores.
“Oh” says Simbo, “I’m sorry I forgot.”


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Simbo removes his head that looks like a real person’s head actually I wonder whose it was. He now looks like a Yellow computer core.
Simbo, Pass, Narcizo, and Barkeep rise into the air with tyketime in front.


Now let us release the Neurotoxin.


It shoots out of every opening of the chamber.
Bhlloy and Ragone stand there with their portal devices and gulp. Blindly they shoot them into the computers. Bhlloy chokes and goes down. He was also a human.


Ah stop the neurotoxin. Stop it you guys!
I have found my companion cube! Hooray!


GLaDOS reaches down and grabs Ragone with a computer appendage. She pulls the head off and throws the body away. You now realize (well actually SHE now realizes) that Ragone’s head WAS the bodyguarding companion cube. And now she is happy


And now…I will have some cake.

[tyketime]

What the...?

[CrimsonFox]

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[Zinto]

Ugh

[Passacaglia]

So what was the deal with Ragone?

[Ragone]

hmm, would killing me have ended the game earlier for the wolves?

[tyketime]

hmm, would killing me have ended the game earlier for the wolves?
I would say "good question", but then bhlloy would accuse us of playing off each other again. ;)

[tyketime]

Please tell me it's because I decided to eat some cake, right? That forced the endgame?

[CrimsonFox]

no. The gameplay affects the story (my writeups), not the other way around. Just would have meant the bodyguard would have died but was glad ragone lasted til the end. Made the story better :).

[Autumn]

I don't think I've ever seen a shutout like this. And I can't claim it's because I was killed--I think I would have lynched PF and Kwhit before anyone else.

[CrimsonFox]

Game Over Wolves win and all that. Thank you for playing. Hope you had fun. Really happy to see all the activity. LOTS of people were active LOTS of new people lots of oldtimers that came back. Again hope you enjoyed it. New game starting up by eaglefan.

[Barkeep49]

Ragone: I thought, for sure, you were the cultist after your trust list had 4 of the 5 wolves on it.

[CrimsonFox]

And of course Ragone, you don't need to protect bhlloy and Pass anymore :)

[CrimsonFox]

Packer had 4 wolves too :)

[tyketime]

See - I TOLD you early on there were no wolves in the game. But no one wanted to listen...

[Ragone]

I do feel like i said it right several pages back.. wolves were systematically picking off the stronger experience villagers early in the game and leaving noobs till the end...

[CrimsonFox]

What the...?


tyke you can stop trying to fool them. YOu've won, ya know. :)

[Passacaglia]

Ragone: I thought, for sure, you were the cultist after your trust list had 4 of the 5 wolves on it.

And of course Ragone, you don't need to protect bhlloy and Pass anymore :)

Yeah, I was pretty offended that I was the only wolf not on your happy list. But thanks for the protection! :)

[Autumn]

Well, I take that back. At this point in the game I would have lynched Barkeep first. Today when he didn't argue with the idea of lynching Glados, I knew he was bad.

[CrimsonFox]

And bhlloy as hard as you were on yourself you were probably the best villager in the game. You were extremely active. You made your own mind up. You took risks. YOu didn't follow the mainstream and you flipped things up. Plus you used the toys.
The opposite of course is just letting others dictate what everyone does and following the mob and/or not being active.

[tyketime]

Game Over Wolves win and all that. Thank you for playing. Hope you had fun. Really happy to see all the activity. LOTS of people were active LOTS of new people lots of oldtimers that came back. Again hope you enjoyed it. New game starting up by eaglefan.
GREAT job Crimson! Even though I didn't know a lot of the Portal background - your writeups made it very entertaining. :bowdown:

[tyketime]

tyke you can stop trying to fool them. YOu've won, ya know. :)
Well to be honest - I really didn't know what the final victory conditions were...

[Passacaglia]

I do feel like i said it right several pages back.. wolves were systematically picking off the stronger experience villagers early in the game and leaving noobs till the end...

I wasn't that involved in night-kill discussions, but I'd say the only time we killed someone just because they were a strong villager was hoopsguy -- for everyone else, we had some other reason that took over instead. I think we left a few strong villagers alive, too.

[CrimsonFox]

oh actually all the wolves win except pass. Pass loses for posting Bon jovi :P

[Ragone]

I started feeling really bad about narcizo a few days back.. felt like he was overanaylizing the game.

[Ragone]

And bhlloy as hard as you were on yourself you were probably the best villager in the game. You were extremely active. You made your own mind up. You took risks. YOu didn't follow the mainstream and you flipped things up. Plus you used the toys.
The opposite of course is just letting others dictate what everyone does and following the mob and/or not being active.

honestly, bhlloy was the only person i was sure was a villager, i felt like i played poorly, never really felt comfortable at all.

[CrimsonFox]

I do feel like i said it right several pages back.. wolves were systematically picking off the stronger experience villagers early in the game and leaving noobs till the end...


That does always happen yes. Every game the active players get NKed out first. And to answer your question from earlier yes you played a great game. YOu were active and tried to start discussions and such. That's the key. Being active and voting how you want without letting too many others influence you.

And actually Ragone, the last two NKs were linda random. The wolves were not convinced of anyone being the right move. They just kinda chose people. LOTS of discussion about EVERY move they made. Actually wolves, I've really never seen THAT much discussion before by wolves. You posted more than _I_ usually do.

[Passacaglia]

oh actually all the wolves win except pass. Pass loses for posting Bon jovi :P

I thought it would help us find the weighted companion cube.

[EagleFan]

CF did explain that the villagers were supposed to lynch the wolves? :eek:

:popcorn:

[hoopsguy]

I'm a bit surprised that BK/Narcizo didn't start picking up heat after me/JAG were wiped out back-to-back days and Autumn was lynched. It really seemed to set the stage for "why are these normally logical players being left alive, based on some of the earlier NK picks" question.

Obviously a very strong wolf performance; they were terrific at never being in the line of voting fire. Didn't force the issue too much when the game was going well. Just stacked up day after day of perfect results, which isn't easy to do even when the seer gets snuffed early.

[Ragone]

wish narcizo or packers had been around, i really thought my idea of trying to get one of them to fake reveal as the bg would have been fun to see flesh out

[tyketime]

It was amazing how Villager-Villager results lined up almost every day.

[bhlloy]

Hmm well I'm glad I was right about at least a couple of the wolves even if i was way too late on it. Great game by those guys. Controlled where we were looking from start to end.

[Ragone]

who was the next night kill.. out of curiousity?

[Passacaglia]

I'm a bit surprised that BK/Narcizo didn't start picking up heat after me/JAG were wiped out back-to-back days and Autumn was lynched. It really seemed to set the stage for "why are these normally logical players being left alive, based on some of the earlier NK picks" question.

Obviously a very strong wolf performance; they were terrific at never being in the line of voting fire. Didn't force the issue too much when the game was going well. Just stacked up day after day of perfect results, which isn't easy to do even when the seer gets snuffed early.

It was amazing how Villager-Villager results lined up almost every day.

I really think it was just sheer luck. We were never really put in a threatening position for the villagers to get a read on any of us -- not to say that the village played poorly, just that their shots kept missing badly.

[CrimsonFox]

who was the next night kill.. out of curiousity?

Raiders was the order. :)

[CrimsonFox]

Indeed Ragone it is REALLY hard sometimes to play bodyguard and it is often just random guessing. YOu just have to guess who is the MOST LIKELY to be a villager or a role and go with them.

Some games have TONS of roles that allow for reveals and instant information but this did not. It is weird that if there are no roles than the village has nothing to clear themselves with. And if they do, it becomes just cookie cutter and like every other game.

[Ragone]

yea.. i think i protected him yesterday.. hah

[Passacaglia]

I really think it was just sheer luck. We were never really put in a threatening position for the villagers to get a read on any of us -- not to say that the village played poorly, just that their shots kept missing badly.

Although, as I said to the fellow wolves, I did like the idea that we were crushing so well that we had you guys thinking that there weren't any wolves at all.

[tyketime]

I really think it was just sheer luck. We were never really put in a threatening position for the villagers to get a read on any of us -- not to say that the village played poorly, just that their shots kept missing badly.
You know - I started thinking about the math in this. Just once if one of the wolves had been lynched, the whole complexion of the game would have changed. But we were able to sow seeds of doubt about no wolves or a different mechanic in play almost the entire game. If nothing else, it proved a nuisance in trying to figure out what was really happening.

[Ragone]

Bhlloy was my primary today.. passa was secondary in case of a brutal wolf lynch..

[tyketime]

I voted for you 1) because of the timing of your vote yesterday, the 8th, yes I said 8th. That's #8. You'll understand why I'm repeating later.
So Jackal - what the heck were you trying to tell us there? I made up a couple "theories", but this just seemed to be too bizarre to be a coincidence.

[Autumn]

You guys also lucked out having CF as the moderator, one of the few that people could almost believe he'd pull something wacky on us. When I first saw the game going up I thought it might be something off the wall, so there was that little seed of doubt that might not have existed in another game.

Still just amazing that we never had one of these guys in our targets. Makes up for the games where all the wolves somehow end up in the vote on day two.

[Passacaglia]

Also, it's worth mentioning that we were all vanilla villagers on Day 1.

[Passacaglia]

Also, it's worth mentioning that we were all vanilla villagers on Day 1.

In fact, I feel like on Day 2, it was all wolves pushing that thinking, which worried me.

[CrimsonFox]

The Story: Glados and her cores (and her favorite turret) killed all the scientists and are left with you testers. On night 2 she drops her Companion cube and it lands on Ragone, smashing his head and giving him a cube head which he can use to protect people with. SInce she can't see where the cube lands she and her cores eliminate 5 of the testers and take their places to look for it.

The Tests:

Day 1 - Voting with no death. All people were testers. Purpose: To instill paranoia.
Night 1 - All roles given out at random.
5 Wolf roles. 2 Villager roles -> Seer - DV and Bodyguard Cube - Ragone
Day 2 - Unvoting and Death introduced
Day 3 - Button introduced. Public button push race. Winner becomes Duke.
Day 4 - Storage cubes introduced. Cubes dispersed. First to PM me to place it on button when button appears wins an item. This day: 1 button, 3 people given cubes (Autumn, hoops, Pass) Winner Autumn.
Day 5: Happiness Day. Inverse Lynch; 7 Cubes Dispersed, 3 buttons (split to 2 and 1) Winners: Simbo (who I think was waiting around the whole day just to use the cube :) ), bhlloy (who won the blue portal gun), and Packers.
Day 6: 1 Cube Dispersed, 3 buttons. Only 1 person and they got to choose their prize based on the button push. Winner: britrock
Day 7: High Energy Particle (Instant Kill ability at night). WInner: Kwhit.
Day 8: The Purple core drops. (Can give the item to anyone. If they are found compatible they might get their actions halted. Their was a chance of failure and it counted as a scan. This would keep passing until used. One use.) Winner: Raiders

Wovles:
Barkeep - GLados the Brutal Wolf
Simbo - Yellow timid corrupt core - Received a head as button gift making him a Cunning Wolf
Narcizo - Red angry corrupted core
Pass - Blue Boring data corrupted core
tyketime - turret

Chell - the seer - DV
Companion cube that dropped - the bodyguard, could guard people by blocking nightkills, even on self. Could not guard the same person back to back nights - Ragone

[Ragone]

Yea, i was made bodyguard on day 2..

[CrimsonFox]

You guys also lucked out having CF as the moderator, one of the few that people could almost believe he'd pull something wacky on us. When I first saw the game going up I thought it might be something off the wall, so there was that little seed of doubt that might not have existed in another game.

Still just amazing that we never had one of these guys in our targets. Makes up for the games where all the wolves somehow end up in the vote on day two.


This was actually I think the most plain game I think I've run thus far except for happiness chamber. I mnean the seer was lynched second. Granted I"ll let people believe what they want to believe but sure you have to believe your own eyes unless it was just a bad game design. I would tell you if there were things you had to do BESIDES vote for other people. (other mechanics etc). Although I've come to the conclusion that putting really BIG game mechanics on a single item given to one preson doesn't work bgecause if they go inactive for any reason, that mechanic is out of the game. Didn't really do that here tho.

[CrimsonFox]

Pass I really don't know how you do it. You pull that switcheroo at the last minute stuff in every game I"ve seen you play and people get mad at you and then forget about you totally. I don't know how you do it.
Are you Satan? a vampire? a jedi?

[Ragone]

I really thought i was putting myself way to far out there.. i was waiting for a lynch me day to come.. would have had to reveal as bg and say i already protected myself the day before to buy another day for the village.

But it never came about.

[CrimsonFox]

Portal guns:
Blue portal gun - gives the bearer a +1 vote.

Blue AND ORange Portal gun - Each MAY get an extra vote. However as votes change and unchange during the day, the person with the LAST vote put down gets the +1 vote.

[CrimsonFox]

Okay now, go sign up for EagleFan's game. It's open for business.

[Passacaglia]

Pass I really don't know how you do it. You pull that switcheroo at the last minute stuff in every game I"ve seen you play and people get mad at you and then forget about you totally. I don't know how you do it.
Are you Satan? a vampire? a jedi?

I honestly don't know, either. I think I started doing it to shake things up, and as a way to prevent myself from being night-killed, but by now, people just expect it from me? I did think it was odd how much heat bhlloy was getting for pretty much pulling the exact same move that I did, at the exact same time, and I wasn't getting any. But I guess it goes to show that it's a move that either a wolf or a villager could make?

[CrimsonFox]

I honestly don't know, either. I think I started doing it to shake things up, and as a way to prevent myself from being night-killed, but by now, people just expect it from me? I did think it was odd how much heat bhlloy was getting for pretty much pulling the exact same move that I did, at the exact same time, and I wasn't getting any. But I guess it goes to show that it's a move that either a wolf or a villager could make?


other people do it too. Lathum. Autumn, etc. But they only do it when there is a tie to make it UNtied. YOu do it just to "shake things up" and then you claim "oops sorry" :) and you get away with it :)
makes me laugh every time.

Oh yeah, what is it about my games that you guys always want to tie up the vote. makes more work and confusion for me :)



And oh yeah yeah, I am very sad and disappointed in Pass and bhlloy for spoiling my writeup with your last minute vote switches. Autumn was getting ready to bamboozle the vote and be saved. HE actually used his leg thingees. It was awesome, then you guys switched things. :(

(It was vill-vill so ofcuorse it didn't matter to the game...just to the fun :) )

[Passacaglia]

other people do it too. Lathum. Autumn, etc. But they only do it when there is a tie to make it UNtied. YOu do it just to "shake things up" and then you claim "oops sorry" :) and you get away with it :)
makes me laugh every time.

Oh yeah, what is it about my games that you guys always want to tie up the vote. makes more work and confusion for me :)



And oh yeah yeah, I am very sad and disappointed in Pass and bhlloy for spoiling my writeup with your last minute vote switches. Autumn was getting ready to bamboozle the vote and be saved. HE actually used his leg thingees. It was awesome, then you guys switched things. :(

(It was vill-vill so ofcuorse it didn't matter to the game...just to the fun :) )

I think it's just that my actions generally get dismissed as "stupid, but probably not wolfy I guess"

Sorry about Autumn! That could have been fun to see all the teeth-gnashing if he had survived even though he had more votes.

[CrimsonFox]

Again, great job to the wolves. Great job to the new players who all stayed active and kept at it and really it was just a weird set of circumstances I think. Was happy with the acitivity level .

[CrimsonFox]

I think it's just that my actions generally get dismissed as "stupid, but probably not wolfy I guess"

Sorry about Autumn! That could have been fun to see all the teeth-gnashing if he had survived even though he had more votes.


the next day Autumn pile-on would have been classic.

[britrock88]

I feel even better about not wanting to break the Day 2 tie based on Day 1's voting.

[Ragone]

So most of the villagers probably thought i was a wolf.. and the wolves thought i was some kinda cultist.. a role i assume means i wanna be a wolf and know who they are, but cannot communicate with them, and they don't know of me..

[Ragone]

Ah well, guess i can go to bed and not try and figure out who to protect tomorrow heh

[Marc Vaughan]

Very cool game - well played one and all ...

[CrimsonFox]

By the way barkeep. I went and looked at Spawn. I can't believe you subjected ANY new players to that hahahaha. I couldn't figure it out myself :)
Marc you started in that game? wow :)

[Simbo Klice]

We really did have an excellent team, and we got really lucky with the lynch targets selected, we didn't have to force anything- the only time a wolf got more than 1 vote was Narcizo the last day I think. GG fellow wolves!

[Narcizo]

Yeah, we had a lot of luck - we never really felt pressured and if you're not pressured then you don't tend to make mistakes. Getting the seer really helps because it means you don't have to take allowances for what might happen if you're scanned.

If I was to critique anything about the village play, looking from the outside, it's that all the votes became a two-horse race far too quickly. I think day four also showed that it's vital for a villager to get a counter-candidate going against a runaway vote winner. No matter how obvious it seems that someone is guilty you have to have other people in the race.

As Hoops suggested I was pretty much expecting to get heat after we'd killed Hoops and Jag - particularly after the happy vote which put Barkeep and me high up on the trusted list. But I think a sense of fatality had set into the village by then, I know I would probably be losing faith by that stage were I a villager.

Very well played by the other wolves - it was a pleasure working with you. When I saw that Barkeep and Pass were on the team I thought we had a good chance. But tyke and simbo played very well as well. I actually thought that they had converted me at first, until Barkeep said he'd been a villager on day one as well.

[JAG]

A very nice job by the wolves I thought. A number of you got trusted and were able to lead the voting towards villager candidates without picking up any heat, which sounds to me like skillful play moreso than luck.

I really enjoyed playing the newer players as well. As others said this was a very active game and they contributed a lot to that.

Thanks Crimson.

[Barkeep49]

By the way barkeep. I went and looked at Spawn. I can't believe you subjected ANY new players to that hahahaha. I couldn't figure it out myself :)
Marc you started in that game? wow :)
There are ton of moving parts but for any given player they only have a small range of options so it's not TOO bad. All that choice though does mean there's fun to be had...

[Marc Vaughan]

By the way barkeep. I went and looked at Spawn. I can't believe you subjected ANY new players to that hahahaha. I couldn't figure it out myself :)
Marc you started in that game? wow :)

I survived about ten minutes as I recall ;)

[Autumn]

I was surprised how discouraged the group got at not finding a wolf early. It didn't seem that unusual at all to me to not lynch a wolf by day four or five. Worrisome, yes, but it's hard to find wolves early. We needed to put more pressure on more people, as someone said above, instead of two-horse races every day.

[bhlloy]

Yeah, exactly. We need to take a deep breath and step back and not let the mob mentality take over. That and recognize that just because somebody was a runner up the day before doesn't mean they must be a wolf and up for lunch today. Way, way too many people in this game never had to say anything of substance and flew under the radar the whole time

[GoldenEagle]

At the end, I was asking why BK was still alive.

I am curious as to why I was NK'ed. I really didn't have a clue. I think I had three wolves on my happy list.

[Passacaglia]

At the end, I was asking why BK was still alive.

I am curious as to why I was NK'ed. I really didn't have a clue. I think I had three wolves on my happy list.

If you look back, everyone had wolves on their happy list. The only one who didn't have any was MV I think, which is why I voted for him -- when I made my list, I wanted to make sure everyone had SOME kind of tie to a wolf, either voting for a wolf, or having a wolf vote for him, and MV was the only one who fit that.

We were pretty excited about the happy list, since it provided a road map of who was the most trusted, so we could kill them. However, Narc and BK were on top of that list. The bottom of the list had suspects that we didn't want to kill because we expected they were good lynch candidates, as well as me, Simbo, and tyke, so we didn't want to go there. So we looked at people in the imddle.

[CrimsonFox]

The happiness list is a very good example why it is important for as many people as possible to keep track of information and totals. The wolves were updating their own list every hour and it was helpi8ng them decide who to vote for. Excellent work on that btw britrock! The more people keep track of vote totals and such, the harder it is for people like Narcizo to gain trust simply by doing that :)

And Marc V was going to be the lynch for the longest time GE. But then by the end of it, the top 3 were Narc, bark, and Marc (HA!). So if they killed Marc that would put a target on both Narc and Bark. SO they went down a few pegs. That day was kind of the start of NK scrambling as who was chosen was frequently picked out of a hat from that point on.

[Passacaglia]

And I guess Marc V moving up was partially my fault, since I gave him 5 points. Sorry, wolves -- I guess I should have decided that I was going to do that before, so I could have let you know. I felt bad that I wasn't as able to join in on the PMs as much some days, but I figured you guys had a good handle on things, and I had no night-kill opinions myself most of the time.

[Simbo Klice]

Really, with the seer gone there were a lot of benefits to choosing the less likely targets on the nightkills. Little chance of getting stopped by the bodyguard, no breadcrumbs to leave for the town. That's probably as good of a game as I've seen run by a scum group, you guys are good here!

[CrimsonFox]

Oh yeah, when DV died the only thing he would have been able to tell you was that GOlden Eagle was cleared (who he scanned). So someone else would have been lynched (Packer?) and then DV would have been NKed anyway if Ragone wasn't around to save him . (Not sure he was).

So I really don't see that as being too much of a change of how the rest of the game turned out. Incidently that continues our streak of lynching the person that announces in thread that they have to leave and won't be back before deadline.

[CrimsonFox]

Just remembering this.

This vote was HUGE.

Raiders Army 8 - JaCkAl JaG NaRcIzO RaGoNe McKeRnEy BaRkEeP PaSsAcAgLiA britrock
Jackal 9 - HoOpSgUy PaCkErFaN AuTuMn GoLdEnEaGlE TyKeTiMe KwHiT DaRtH RaIdErS BhLlOy

That was the "day 1" vote. (The first voteoff day). 4 out of 5 wolves happened to me on the person that lost. That is so huge as most people tend to concentrate on whoever takes out the first villager at least for a couple days.

[Raiders Army]

Great game wolves. You nailed it. Sorry Ragone for going after you. I just felt as if you were a baddie.

[Ragone]

man ra, i really thought you were gonna force me to have to reveal at some point..

its okay though. i had to play a fine line to hide my role, which was apparently about the only thing i did right heh.

[PackerFanatic]

The wolves did a really good job of confusing the hell out of us...and I did a piss poor of being around much at all :-/ Sorry guys.

Fantastic game though, CF.

[Passacaglia]

Yay! So the day that I was out for an interview resulted in a job offer! CF, how did your interview go?

[Barkeep49]

Yay! So the day that I was out for an interview resulted in a job offer! CF, how did your interview go?
Congrats!

[Marc Vaughan]

I was surprised how discouraged the group got at not finding a wolf early. It didn't seem that unusual at all to me to not lynch a wolf by day four or five. Worrisome, yes, but it's hard to find wolves early. We needed to put more pressure on more people, as someone said above, instead of two-horse races every day.

I think part of that was inexperience from some of us - tbh I have no idea how often wolves are found early in these games etc.

[CrimsonFox]

Yay! So the day that I was out for an interview resulted in a job offer! CF, how did your interview go?

Won't hear anything probably till the end of the month. It wasn't an exciting job but at least it was for Google. That means free lunch every day. :)

Ugh I'm still dealing with the Rootcanal I had MOnday. Ugh. ugh ugh ugh .

[CrimsonFox]

I think part of that was inexperience from some of us - tbh I have no idea how often wolves are found early in these games etc.

total crapshoot. Day 1 is always random voting, but of course the reasons people give for voting each other are very amusing. It's all just random. Then when you DO find a wolf you look back on day 1 and go "Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm"

The more people are keeping track of information the better and getting vote tallies and theories out there the better. Info is the wolves' enemy. Confusion is their friend.

[Ragone]

Won't hear anything probably till the end of the month. It wasn't an exciting job but at least it was for Google. That means free lunch every day. :)

Ugh I'm still dealing with the Rootcanal I had MOnday. Ugh. ugh ugh ugh .

Oddly enough i too had a root canal on monday crimson.. fun fun