Vanilla Flavored Werewolf-Villagers Win

[fontisian]

Saldana has had one post in which he showed that he was following the discussion, but really added nothing new to it. He mentioned nothing about his absence. Either he's a werewolf or cultist deliberately lurking to avoid attention, or he's having irl issues that he hasn't mentioned. If he is a wolf, we can then look at Mauchow.

[EagleFan]

Okay, I'll lay out the mau case.


mau puts a 2nd vote on Autumn after sal gets a second vote. Alone not a major issue.

mau is seemingly out until after the deadline only to return to immediately post that he (is a he? sorry, haven't played with some of you and whit will be confusing with another mau- it is another one right and not just a name change?) would have switched. (Sorry, that just jumps out at me for some reason, just going hunch there)

path posts his condemnation post of font (which I disagree with, I can't see a wolf making that play in order to save a fellow wolf).

mau jumps right on that to vote Autumn for day two. How many times do we see a wolf wait for someone to make a thought out point and then jump on board. Sets up the, well it wasn;t originally my idea excuse... I was just swayed.

Then I post my opinion of the font/Autumn vote that it would make even more sense to vote font. mau sways towards that.

All the while saldana has faded into the woodwork.


If I was to put odds on it I would say the wolves are:
mau and sal

second pick would be:
DT and path


Granted this is on a day and a half worth of play. Hopefully we learn something with this vote today.

[DaddyTorgo]

That's an interesting point about Path Autumn.

And EF seems to be on maybe, so maybe we'll get his thoughts on mau with enough time to act.

[DaddyTorgo]

And there's EF's point.

[EagleFan]

lol, sorry was trying to put that together while you were waiting I guess. :)

[mauchow]

I was first on autumn today so there goes that.

[fontisian]

I agree with EF. I'd prefer to lynch saldana instead, because his lurking deosn't help us at all, but I could go for mauchow.

[mauchow]

I'll scan my bball schedule to prove that there was zero chance of me being here last night.

And yes I'm the same mau.

[Danny]

Autumn, some good reasoning today and I think if both you and font were wolves, you would have come out less defensive of her.

If we were villager - villager yesterday it bears looking at those who made a vote, stuck with it and didnt seem to care much what happened.

[Danny]

I dont think Mauboy is a wolf

[EagleFan]

I hope I made sense with that. It focuses on a gut feeling and some post analysis.

I would actually put font closer to trusted than not at this point. That would be a seriously bad play as a wolf, at least in my book.

[DaddyTorgo]

Autumn, some good reasoning today and I think if both you and font were wolves, you would have come out less defensive of her.

If we were villager - villager yesterday it bears looking at those who made a vote, stuck with it and didnt seem to care much what happened.

which would be those people who were (ostensibly) around at deadline, or after it became tied-up, and didn't do anything.

[mauchow]

And EF is nuts to have already come up with THE wolf list based on zero votes. I know hunches sometimes are the way to go but not on a day one re-do I'm sorry..

I'm headed up to the nicu to hang out w my little one. I do believe I will be able to be around during deadline but we are holding our baby girl for the first time tonight.

[EagleFan]

If we miss with this lynch I would hope the seer scans mau tonight.

[Danny]

unvote font
vote britrock

[EagleFan]

we are holding our baby girl for the first time tonight.

Very cool!!!

[Danny]

I see brit playing very under the radar. He posted some helpful vote results and tables and such, but no real opinion. He's really stayed out of it so far

[EagleFan]

Danny is confusing me? britrock? That one seems out of the blue?

[mauchow]

I promise you I would have switched my vote before deadline ..and not effed it up either.

[Autumn]

That's amazing, Mau. Might vote you anyway, but I'm thinking of you and your girl.

[Autumn]

Danny, I'd like to hear your thoughts on Mau then.

[Danny]

I think I lost my mojo, I should know who both wolves are by now.

[fontisian]

Danny, it's a little late in the day for a poking vote. Could you do that tomorrow?

[Danny]

Danny, I'd like to hear your thoughts on Mau then.

95% gut, I'm usually pretty spot on with Mau and my gut so far tells me villager. Evidence wise, he isn't a bad vote, though I dont see a super strong case either.

[JAG]

we are holding our baby girl for the first time tonight.

Awesome.

[Danny]

I think if FOnt is a wolf, she is happy with any vote of mine not being for her. I dont think shes a wolf.

[DaddyTorgo]

I don't believe that font is a wolf based on last night or anything.

I think we probably have one wolf out front and trying to lead the village and one more in the "hanging back" style of chief rum/saldana/britrock/raiders army

[fontisian]

If we miss with this lynch I would hope the seer scans mau tonight.

Actually, I'd prefer the seer to scan one of the leaders. Maybe you, path or Autumn.

[mauchow]

I don't believe that font is a wolf based on last night or anything.

I think we probably have one wolf out front and trying to lead the village and one more in the "hanging back" style of chief rum/saldana/britrock/raiders army

EF fits that. However I can't say I've ever read EF all that well and perhaps its because he doesn't play enough anymore.

[saldana]

Font, i dont feel like going back to quote you but since you seem to have issue with my posting frequency, i will simply point out to you that this is how i always play (with the exception of missing the vote entirely yesterday). i do alot of reading along and observing during the first few days, and then i unleash those observations upon the unsuspecting wolves that i suspect...its actually been a rather effective playstyle over the years that for a time resulted in my being nightkilled on the first night in almost every game i played in.

given that you have no way of knowing this, i will not take it personally that you find my behavior wolfish (however i will point out that your attacks on me gained absolutely no traction, likely because others here are aware of this being normal for me)

all THAT said, i dont really have any strong feelings about anyone right now

vote daddytorgo

[Danny]

unvote britrock
vote saldana

[EagleFan]

Actually, I'd prefer the seer to scan one of the leaders. Maybe you, path or Autumn.

Hey now, I have been on your side and you want me scanned.... I'll come clean. I'm vanilla.

Jeez, nobody trusts anyone around here...

;)


Actually, I would assume either Autumn or DT has been scanned already so going after a leader, as you call us, would be fine as well. At the least it clears someone.

[Danny]

I might change now that Saldana has posted a little something.

[EagleFan]

Danny is starting to play like a cultist at this point. He is jumping all over the place.

[saldana]

I might change now that Saldana has posted a little something.

i would appreciate that, lol

[Danny]

Danny is starting to play like a cultist at this point. He is jumping all over the place.

When I am cultist in a small game, I dont play like this at all, I make it seem like I am likely wolf and try and get myself lynched because that is a good play for the wolves.

[saldana]

Danny is starting to play like a cultist at this point. He is jumping all over the place.

honestly, i was thinking the same thing...i thought the bitrock vote was odd, and i definitely dont think much of the vote for me.

[Danny]

Im actually very unsure of who to vote for. I dont feel like I like any of the candidates.

[Danny]

honestly, i was thinking the same thing...i thought the bitrock vote was odd, and i definitely dont think much of the vote for me.

I actually like brit as a candidate above anyone else.

[fontisian]

Unvote saldana
Alright sal, I can accept that for now.
Vote Mauchow

EF: During the last mafia game I played in, one guy went out of his way to defend me a bit. Turns out that he was a wolf and my support of him almost cost town the game. Call me paranoid and take it as a compliment that I would prefer you to be checked instead of lynched.

[Danny]

well, looks like its really going to come down to Mau and DT, so I will at least make this closer.

unvote saldana
vote dt

[fontisian]

When I am cultist in a small game, I dont play like this at all, I make it seem like I am likely wolf and try and get myself lynched because that is a good play for the wolves.
Does not compute.

[DaddyTorgo]

Jeez - deadline so soon? I don't feel like I have a great grasp of where to vote. What's the current vote count at? I'm on my ipad and feeling lazy, like I don't want to go back and tally up changes if someone else has it.

[DaddyTorgo]

well, looks like its really going to come down to Mau and DT, so I will at least make this closer.

unvote saldana
vote dt

Is that really what it's going to come down to? I don't want to vote for myself cuz I know I'm vanilla, but I don't want mau to get lynched on the day he gets to hold his lil daughter for the first time...that's just cruel.

Still...gotta go with self-preservation if that's the way it's shaking out.

VOTE MAUCHOW

[Danny]

Is that really what it's going to come down to? I don't want to vote for myself cuz I know I'm vanilla, but I don't want mau to get lynched on the day he gets to hold his lil daughter for the first time...that's just cruel.

Still...gotta go with self-preservation if that's the way it's shaking out.

VOTE MAUCHOW

No other candidate got any support and we are getting closer to deadline

[fontisian]

Vote Count
1 Mau-EF(193), fontisian(290), DaddyTogo(294)
1 DaddyTorgo- Autumn(214), saldana(280), Danny (291)
2 Font- Chief(231), path(245)
1 Chief- Raiders(235)

[Danny]

Real Vote Count
3 Mau-EF(193), fontisian(290), DaddyTogo(294)
3 DaddyTorgo- Autumn(214), saldana(280), Danny (291)
2 Font- Chief(231), path(245)
1 Chief- Raiders(235)

[DaddyTorgo]

I trust 2/3 of the people voting for me more than others in the game as far as their analysis so far, but I don't like that they're voting for me.

Autumn? Danny?

[Danny]

Id love to see britrock scanned personally

[Danny]

I trust 2/3 of the people voting for me more than others in the game as far as their analysis so far, but I don't like that they're voting for me.

Autumn? Danny?

I just don't think font is a wolf now and I dont really want to go with Mauchow. I actually think the wolves are likely out of our list of candidates. I could go Brit or Path for sure

[Danny]

I just don't think font is a wolf now and I dont really want to go with Mauchow. I actually think the wolves are likely out of our list of candidates. I could go Brit or Path for sure

When I say out of the list, I mean not on the list.

[fontisian]

Real Vote Count
3 Mau-EF(193), fontisian(290), DaddyTogo(294)
3 DaddyTorgo- Autumn(214), saldana(280), Danny (291)
2 Font- Chief(231), path(245)
1 Chief- Raiders(235)

:banghead: Have I mentioned that I am an idiot?

[DaddyTorgo]

Well I don't want myself lynched...I'm unsure on Path ATM...I could go brit, but I don't think we have the votes to get it done by deadline...

[EagleFan]

Id love to see britrock scanned personally

Hey now, Chief is going to get jealous.

[DaddyTorgo]

If you and I both move and nobody else does, that creates a 4-way tie on 2 votes...that's pretty ridiculous.

[fontisian]

We're at a tie again and uncomfortably close to deadline. Does anyone want to change?

[EagleFan]

unvote mau

vote path

[EagleFan]

your move.

[EagleFan]

oops, I misread your post too quickly, thought you wanted to go path.

[DaddyTorgo]

Chief throws an early vote on font...raiders throws a vote back on chief soon after...then chief runs off to work, and raiders hasn't been seen again (forget if he had something RL going on). Seems kinda weird.

[EagleFan]

unvote path

vote brit

[EagleFan]

brit has been MIA so I am okay with that.

[EagleFan]

As long as it's not another tie vote, or we'll have another pointless day.

[DaddyTorgo]

Yeah - i'll move to brit if danny or autumn will...otherwise i have to stay on mau for self-preservation until then

[DaddyTorgo]

Oh nevermind - you moved so my self-preservation doesn't apply.

UNVOTE MAU
VOTE BRITROCK

[Danny]

unvote dt
vote britrock

[fontisian]

Let's round out this bandwagon.
Unvote mau
Vote britrock

[EagleFan]

Sound right?

3 brit-EF(311), DT(315), Danny(316)
2 DaddyTorgo- Autumn(214), saldana(280)
2 Font- Chief(231), path(245)
1 Chief- Raiders(235)
1 Mau-fontisian(290)

[Autumn]

Well, that's surprising.

[EagleFan]

Oops...

4 brit-EF(311), DT(315), Danny(316), font (317)
2 DaddyTorgo- Autumn(214), saldana(280)
2 Font- Chief(231), path(245)
1 Chief- Raiders(235)

[Autumn]

I gotta say, if DT lives and isn't scanned by tomorrow, someone's sleeping on the job.

[Autumn]

EF, DT was on your list of suspects, and Brit was not. Why teh sudden change of heart?

[DaddyTorgo]

I gotta say, if DT lives and isn't scanned by tomorrow, someone's sleeping on the job.

I hope the seer does scan me. They'll find me a vanilla villager, and one day you all will find out the same, one way or another.

[EagleFan]

EF, DT was on your list of suspects, and Brit was not. Why teh sudden change of heart?

Not wanting another tie.

[EagleFan]

dola: and not wanting a possible UTR wolf running around?

[Autumn]

Not wanting another tie.

So why not vote DT?

[EagleFan]

double dola: revenge for burning the White House?

[Autumn]

Blindsiding a candidate this late is more likely to result in losing a roled villager than a wolf as far as I'm concerned.

[mauchow]

I agree. I'm not voting unless someone switches to dt

[DaddyTorgo]

Blindsiding a candidate this late is more likely to result in losing a roled villager than a wolf as far as I'm concerned.

Well lynching me for-sure results in losing a villager!

[EagleFan]

an MIA roled villager isn;t that helpful.

[Autumn]

Makes no sense to switch off Mau, to avoid a tie, and not switch to DT, putting him ahead by two, but instead switch to a brand new candidate not even listed in your top three or four suspects (while DT was).

[EagleFan]

unvote brit

vote DT

[EagleFan]

okay, I'll take that into account.

[Autumn]

an MIA roled villager isn;t that helpful.

It is if he's getting his scans in. It's awfully late in the day to suddenly be upset about someone not being active.

[mauchow]

vote dt

[fontisian]

unvote brit

[DaddyTorgo]

unvote brit

vote DT

I don't support this vote

[mauchow]

Christ . On my phone. That was way too late ef

[EagleFan]

There, we'll see if DT was really a villager.

[Autumn]

DT comes down strongly in favor of a pro-DT policy

[DaddyTorgo]

Ohhh...just missed it mauchow.

Sneaky shit.

I'm not sure I like this new version of WW we're playing round here where things flip-flop so much in the run-up to deadline.

[fontisian]

You ... you tied us. Again! Can't you guys count!

[EagleFan]

Z's gonna love us. :)

[EagleFan]

You ... you tied us. Again! Can't you guys count!

4-3 DT?

[DaddyTorgo]

After today will you guys lay off on the basis that I've surely been scanned and if I was a wolf the seer would reveal and let you know?

I'm getting tired of being the center of attention and all these late swings in votes.

[DaddyTorgo]

4-3 DT?

Nope - 3-3. The other votes were late. You idiots tied us up again.

[fontisian]

3 brit- DT(315), Danny(316), font (317)
3 DaddyTorgo- Autumn(214), saldana(280), EF(340)
2 Font- Chief(231), path(245)
1 Chief- Raiders(235)

Mauchow's vote and my rescind were after deadline. Do you see a problem there? I see a problem there!

[DaddyTorgo]

Thanks Autumn and EF.

Bang up job you two did there of cooking up a tie.

[mauchow]

I haven't refreshed since my post. I'm sorry I fucked that up by not just putting the vote on dt and letting somene just switch after mine. I shouldn't blame ef since its on me.

Fuck.

[Danny]

Im voting eaglefan tomorrow I think

[mauchow]

Ok gonna watch my wife hold baby now.

[DaddyTorgo]

I haven't refreshed since my post. I'm sorry I fucked that up by not just putting the vote on dt and letting somene just switch after mine. I shouldn't blame ef since its on me.

Fuck.

Yeah, that would have been a great result.

[Autumn]

Thanks Autumn and EF.

Bang up job you two did there of cooking up a tie.

Nice job on trying to spread the blame, DT. I called EF on a very suspicious looking vote. He decided to tie up the game. That certainly wasn't my idea. Ef following one suspicious vote with one really bad one should be the topic of discussion, as well as a seeming disinterest in several people letting you get lynched.

[DaddyTorgo]

Yeah, that would have been a great result.

//sarcasm

[EagleFan]

Crud, I f'd that one up. Should have just napped like yesterday. Thought I was baiting DT so we could get him.

[DaddyTorgo]

Nice job on trying to spread the blame, DT. I called EF on a very suspicious looking vote. He decided to tie up the game. That certainly wasn't my idea. Ef following one suspicious vote with one really bad one should be the topic of discussion, as well as a seeming disinterest in several people letting you get lynched.

Oh EF is definitely more of a suspicion than you - I just thought your timing of calling him on it was pretty poor.

[fontisian]

At least we would have lynched someone!

Ok, I have any idea. Let's make sure our votes are absolutely set by 8:50.

[DaddyTorgo]

Nice job on trying to spread the blame, DT. I called EF on a very suspicious looking vote. He decided to tie up the game. That certainly wasn't my idea. Ef following one suspicious vote with one really bad one should be the topic of discussion, as well as a seeming disinterest in several people letting you get lynched.

You and saldana and EF were the 3 voting me. EF we just discussed, has a lot to answer for.

So if you're not referring to yourself in the "seeming disinterest" category, are you referring to saldana, or somebody else who didn't end up voting for me?

[Danny]

Im pretty convinced now that EF is not a villager

[EagleFan]

I'll fall on my sword if need be but hopefully I can redeem myself tomorrow.

[DaddyTorgo]

Im pretty convinced now that EF is not a villager

Question is - do we think the other wolf was on me also, or was spread out elsewhere?

Maybe EF is just the cultist and is trying to get lynched, like you said you would probably play it as the cultist...

[fontisian]

Why would the cultist want to get lynched? The longer they live, the greater chance they have of outing the seer before he does any damage.

[Zinto]

Ok gonna watch my wife hold baby now.

Sounds like a great time, congrats Mau!

[EagleFan]

Question is - do we think the other wolf was on me also, or was spread out elsewhere?

Maybe EF is just the cultist and is trying to get lynched, like you said you would probably play it as the cultist...

I was trying to get you. You were already in one of my suspect pairs so I figured that I could get you off mau and it could also give me an idea of what others were thinking as to who followed you.

[mauchow]

We have no idea if its going to be a dou le lynch or a no lynch ? I'm just going off memory but wasn't there something about a coin ? It could go either way.

[Zinto]

Well deadline.

[DaddyTorgo]

Why would the cultist want to get lynched? The longer they live, the greater chance they have of outing the seer before he does any damage.

to protect a wolf? to buy another day or two in a small game for the wolves to get some kills in?

[DaddyTorgo]

I was trying to get you. You were already in one of my suspect pairs so I figured that I could get you off mau and it could also give me an idea of what others were thinking as to who followed you.

You kiss your mother with those lying, wolfy teeth??

[fontisian]

I was trying to get you. You were already in one of my suspect pairs so I figured that I could get you off mau and it could also give me an idea of what others were thinking as to who followed you.
Then why didn't you just vote for him in the first place, instead of switching to brit?

[EagleFan]

Then why didn't you just vote for him in the first place, instead of switching to brit?

Wanted to cause a little movement. See who moves with him.

[EagleFan]

dola: The more you get people posting and moving their votes the better chance there is to see what game they are playing. :)

[Autumn]

You and saldana and EF were the 3 voting me. EF we just discussed, has a lot to answer for.

So if you're not referring to yourself in the "seeming disinterest" category, are you referring to saldana, or somebody else who didn't end up voting for me?

I was referring to those who seemed interested in preventing you from getting lynched. In other words those who were trying to drum up a new candidate at the last moment.

[DaddyTorgo]

I was referring to those who seemed interested in preventing you from getting lynched. In other words those who were trying to drum up a new candidate at the last moment.

Maybe I ougt to just let you all lynch me - you seem so determined to.

[Autumn]

Oh EF is definitely more of a suspicion than you - I just thought your timing of calling him on it was pretty poor.

Well, that was when I got to the thread. Not sure when else I could call him on it. Wait until he had finished organizing a bad lynch?

[DaddyTorgo]

Well, that was when I got to the thread. Not sure when else I could call him on it. Wait until he had finished organizing a bad lynch?

Cuz a lynch of me is a good lynch?

I beg to differ.

[Autumn]

Maybe I ougt to just let you all lynch me - you seem so determined to.

lol, I've tried to lynch you twice and not once have we got a majority of votes, so I'm not sure how you get this idea. It seems there are more people not interested in lynching you.

[DaddyTorgo]

Trying to reorganize anything in the last like...10 minutes before deadline is ridiculous and crazy.

[Autumn]

Cuz a lynch of me is a good lynch?

I beg to differ.

Maybe it is. But if I'm worried a wolf or cultist is suddenly trying to move votes off of you onto a new candidate at the last moment, I'm not going to wait until after the lynch to say something about it. It certainly suggests you're a good lynch, if you agree that such movement is suspicious.

[DaddyTorgo]

lol, I've tried to lynch you twice and not once have we got a majority of votes, so I'm not sure how you get this idea. It seems there are more people not interested in lynching you.

Funny thing is that I actually feel like you're more likely a villager at this point, and yet you still keep trying to organize these lynches of me. It's like a fucked-up abusive relationship.

[DaddyTorgo]

"love me love me" *smack*

[Autumn]

I'm just trying to lynch *someone*! And in yesterday's case, someone who isn't me!

[Zinto]

Official Vote Count
3 DaddyTorgo- Autumn(214), Sal(280), EF(333)
2 Font- Chief(231), Path(245)
1 Chief- Raiders(235)
3 Brit-DT(315), Danny(316), Font(317)

[DaddyTorgo]

I'm just trying to lynch *someone*! And in yesterday's case, someone who isn't me!

same here man - same here!!!

[DaddyTorgo]

Soon as I find out the exciting conclusion to "am i lynched or not" i'm going to sleep

[Zinto]

Once again you decide that you cannot come to a consensus and end up in a tie, but this time it seems that you have to make a different decision since you lost the only coin the expedition had yesterday.

[Autumn]

How will we buy any ice cream wihtout a coin?

[DaddyTorgo]

Once again you decide that you cannot come to a consensus and end up in a tie, but this time it seems that you have to make a different decision since you lost the only coin the expedition had yesterday.

I vote the decision is "lynch brit"

[Zinto]

After a bit of bickering back and forth you decide that the most logical person is not either of the people that had the most votes tonight because they are the most suspicious. Also, you figure that it cannot be the people that had not votes since they are the least suspicious. It must be the people you most middle expect and so you all point at Fontisian.

She tries to run away but she slips and falls on an ice cream cone statue and ends up hitting her head. As you search her and her things you find nothing but excited letters of how much she loved working on the dig with you and employee of the month plaque she got last month.

Fontisian was a vanilla villager.

[EagleFan]

I vote the decision is lynch DT...

[Autumn]

wtf

[Autumn]

Sorry Font. Bad result for you. Bad result for us. How about no more ties?

[EagleFan]

told you font merely made a mistake.... not like it matters now.

[Autumn]

Yeah not a good result because it doesn't really tell me anything I didn't already guess.

[mauchow]

I really hope I live to see the morning.

[fontisian]

Good luck guys. Thanks for hosting Zinto.

[mauchow]

I really hope I live to see the morning.

Oh, Mau, are you saying you're something? I don't know, am I wolfies?

[mauchow]

My wife is sleeping with baby in her arms and I'm bored.. but at least on the computer now.

[DaddyTorgo]

Yeah not a good result because it doesn't really tell me anything I didn't already guess.

Exactly.

Can we move on now and look at other candidates guys??

Reminder: I have a 6:50am flight (4:15 wakeup) out of Toronto back to the states, land at 11:41am, and have a 1pm mtg I'm going straight to, so I won't be around until after that meeting (and tbh I want to go straight home after that meeting and try to get a workout in). So I'll be scarce tomorrow during the day too, although if I make it home I'll try to catch up and get in a couple posts before my workout.

[EagleFan]

I think mau, DT and sal would be a good place to look.

[saldana]

interesting...we did learn one thing...the tie mechanic is either random or escalates (first tie, no one dies...second tie, random person dies)...i would wonder if a third tie kills both people...i really think we need to NOT find that out.

[path12]

unvote brit

vote DT

Holy shit. Are you kidding me?

[path12]

Ok gonna watch my wife hold baby now.

Congrats by the way.

[path12]

interesting...we did learn one thing...the tie mechanic is either random or escalates (first tie, no one dies...second tie, random person dies)...i would wonder if a third tie kills both people...i really think we need to NOT find that out.

I took it as the most and least are thrown out (so DT and Brit with 3 and everyone with 0) and then it was between fontisian and Chief. Not sure if that was a coin flip or not.

But yeah, rather not find out by having another tie.

[britrock88]

Wow. I very nearly got railroaded.

[britrock88]

For the record, I tend to be helpful with vote counts and things like that and not lead the charge in wolf-nabbing as a general principle. Not only am I relatively new to this part of the board, I also have a bad gut feel for this kind of thing. Sorry to disappoint you all, but I can begin to speculate about things if you'd like.

[britrock88]

(Underlying all of this, can't a guy enjoy happy hour?!?)

[britrock88]

(And miss deadline accidentally?)

[Autumn]

Hey, you have your happy hour, and we'll have ours.

[britrock88]

:D

[britrock88]

Back after I'm off the phone to try to figure out what happened today.

[britrock88]

Day 1

time post voter votee #
04:21 39 JAG saldana 1
09:16 43 brit Autumn 1
09:46 48 Autumn DT 1
10:29 50 path12 mauchow 1
11:23 51 EF JAG 1
11:59 53 CR saldana 2
14:52 60 mauchow Autumn 2
17:04 64 font saldana 3
17:18 66 DT Autumn 3
17:21 67 JAG x sal 2
DT 2
17:45 73 Danny font 1
17:48 77 RA Autumn 4
18:49 106 Danny x font 0
DT 3
18:53 110 font x sal 1
DT 4
[/QUOTE]

Day 2

time post voter votee #
08:29 184 mauchow Autumn 1
09:15 188 path12 Autumn 2
10:35 193 EF mauchow 1
11:51 197 Danny DT 1
14:24 214 Autumn DT 2
14:26 215 Danny xDT 1
Autumn 3
14:31 217 DT Autumn 4
14:25 220 Danny xAutumn 3
font 1
16:29 231 CR font 2
16:35 232 font DT 2
16:51 233 font xDT 1
17:01 234 RA CR 1
17:06 236 font saldana 1
17:18 238 DT xAutumn 2
17:47 243 mauchow xAutumn 1
18:02 245 path12 xAutumn 0
font 3
19:02 265 Danny xfont 2
brit 1
19:20 280 saldana DT 2
19:20 281 Danny xbrit 0
saldana 2
19:30 290 font xsal 1
mauchow 2
19:32 291 Danny xsal 0
DT 3
19:34 294 DT mauchow 3
19:44 307 EF xmau 2
path 1
19:45 311 EF xpath 0
brit 1
19:50 315 DT xmau 1
brit 2
19:50 316 Danny xDT 2
brit 3
19:52 317 font xmau 0
brit 4
20:00 333 EF xbrit 3
DT 3

[britrock88]

Not sure whether to give the people who shifted to me a free pass for going at a guy who wasn't around... or to support Autumn's notion that there's something fishy among those moving off DT. That said, a DT scan result might help us out... though I'm not sure of the worth of having the seer reveal for a clean scan.

[Zinto]

Everyone wakes up to a shriek in the middle of the night. It seems that there was an altercation and it came from the area where Raiders Army was sleeping. You find that he had tried to crawl out of his sleeping bag but was unsuccessful before someone had stabbed him.

Raiders Army was a vanilla villager.

Day Three Begins.

[EagleFan]

Interesting choice.

[DaddyTorgo]

10 minutes before my flight. That's one of those "off the beaten path" type of wolf shots. Who was I a wolf with recently who advocated that sort of thing...trying to remember (legitimately).

Not sure where I want to go today...if people (autumn and EF) would stop voting me (surely I've been scanned and cleared by now) then maybe we could stop going down that path again and again, and could accomplish actually looking at some other people?

Off to the airport now.

[Raiders Army]

Interestingly enough I recently learned that Ben and Jerry's has a graveyard with headstones for all of their discontinued flavors. Good luck village!

[saldana]

ok, so we have 2 nights of some shenanigans at lynch time and one dead random villager..barring a seer scan today, i am going to be on one of the shenanigan performers.

[Autumn]

Interestingly enough I recently learned that Ben and Jerry's has a graveyard with headstones for all of their discontinued flavors. Good luck village!

we'll bury you among them, RA!

[Autumn]

I am going to pray to the WErewolf gods that the seer has scanned DT by now, and would reveal if he was a wolf. If he's not a wolf then it may be that we're just dealing with goofy villagers enjoying themselves at lynch time. It happens. It may be we have a cultist trying to draw attention and be a pain, but I'm going to assume DT is clear until we hear otherwise. I think too many games get sidetracked by chasing around villagers for days and days who were just trying to make things interesting.

That said, I don't have any idea yet which direction I'll go. Got to bring the kids to school and run errands and then I'll be back.

[mauchow]

I'm not sure how to read into the bitrock swing at the end there. I was out for the time when I was leading and when the bitrock run came. Thats some wild action down the stretch. Unfortunately I was catching up on all that three minutes before the deadline so I never got a chance to really think logically on what I could do. In hindsight I could have made my vote prior to ef but I just didn't want another late vote to be added on to create the tie. I was refreshing as fast as my phone would allow on the spotty hospital wireless.

We still need info on dt/autumn imo. If there hasn't been a wolf scanned by the seer hopefully the ones they've been scanning aren't already dead. We will desperately need the cot. Obviously we've got a positive in this in that we've lost no roles yet.

[EagleFan]

vote mau

[mauchow]

High five ef

[DaddyTorgo]

I'm not sure how to read into the bitrock swing at the end there. I was out for the time when I was leading and when the bitrock run came. Thats some wild action down the stretch. Unfortunately I was catching up on all that three minutes before the deadline so I never got a chance to really think logically on what I could do. In hindsight I could have made my vote prior to ef but I just didn't want another late vote to be added on to create the tie. I was refreshing as fast as my phone would allow on the spotty hospital wireless.

We still need info on dt/autumn imo. If there hasn't been a wolf scanned by the seer hopefully the ones they've been scanning aren't already dead. We will desperately need the cot. Obviously we've got a positive in this in that we've lost no roles yet.

I presume at least myself and maybe autumn have been scanned by now.

Agreed with Autumn that we're barking up the wrong tree here though - at least as far as the two of us are concerned. Makes sense to look at shenanigan-causers though.

-font is dead and she was causing shenanigans.
-i know i'm good, so I know that danny's move off of me to britrock last night wasn't about a wolf saving a wolf, so I feel better about him at least being no worse than the cultist, because otherwise he has no reason to cause chaos.
-I've been in a similar place as EF in the past, in terms of trying to create chaos to see how people act and move their votes, so I don't harbor any ill-will towards him. Thinking he gets a pass for now, although he could certainly be a chaos-causing cultist (but he knows who the wolves are, so he'd have no incentive to save me, so I don't think this is the case).
-I feel okay about Autumn - again...his dogged suspiscion of me feels villagerish, and he may have been a scan target (as I have been I hope), so I think maybe he gets a pass for now.

I'd like to look elsewhere - knowing I'm a villager I have to believe that maybe we've been villager/villager the past couple days and instead of causing the chaos the wolves have put their votes in early and kept them locked on opposite candidates.

I'm traveling, but if somebody else wants to look at an analysis of people who have voted earlier in the day, haven't moved their votes, and have not voted together, I think that might be a really interesting filter to put on things...

[saldana]

vote mau

reason?

[Autumn]

I am going to just go with gut for now, and someone who I think roughly meets what Chief is talking about, in terms of someone who has stayed out of the way and let us punch ourselves.

<b>vote path12</b>

[britrock88]

-I've been in a similar place as EF in the past, in terms of trying to create chaos to see how people act and move their votes, so I don't harbor any ill-will towards him. Thinking he gets a pass for now, although he could certainly be a chaos-causing cultist (but he knows who the wolves are, so he'd have no incentive to save me, so I don't think this is the case).

I thought the cultist didn't know who the wolves are?

[britrock88]

I remember (due to the trauma) Danny explaining his move to me yesterday as going for a UTR type. Autumn replied that a last-minute move such as that one is more likely to nab a roled villager than a wolf. Then the wolves NKed RA, one of the most UTR players in this game. I wonder what's at play there...

[britrock88]

EF, when you come back around -- you said you were trying to bait people when you moved to me. DT moved his vote in self-defense; Danny moved back to me, having indicated suspicion in me earlier; and font turned out good. What do you make of your play -- any reads on your compats?

[path12]

I am going to just go with gut for now, and someone who I think roughly meets what Chief is talking about, in terms of someone who has stayed out of the way and let us punch ourselves.

<b>vote path12</b>

Out of the way? Like when I went after fontisian and was completely wrong?

[path12]

I remember (due to the trauma) Danny explaining his move to me yesterday as going for a UTR type. Autumn replied that a last-minute move such as that one is more likely to nab a roled villager than a wolf. Then the wolves NKed RA, one of the most UTR players in this game. I wonder what's at play there...

I think the wolves are thinking the roled villagers are the quieter ones and are killing accordingly.

[path12]

I'd be shocked if EF wasn't scanned last night after that last minute switch to a tie so I'm likely to change this vote later but for now that was just way too weird a play not to:

VOTE EAGLEFAN

[britrock88]

I'd be shocked if EF wasn't scanned last night after that last minute switch to a tie so I'm likely to change this vote later but for now that was just way too weird a play not to:

VOTE EAGLEFAN

It'd be a touch disappointing not to have scans on Autumn and DT, given how prominent they've been as candidates in the first 2 days. But I understand that a curious seer might go for EF instead.

[britrock88]

Seems cultist-ish to me, though. And being that the cultist helps our numbers, I don't feel a strong sense of urgency to off someone I *suspect* may be the cultist.

[britrock88]

1 mauchow - EagleFan(422)
1 path12 - Autumn(426)
1 EagleFan - path12(432)

[Danny]

Not really enough time here to do real analysis. RA was a clear kill going for the seer. I do find it interesting that of the under the radar players they chose to go with Raiders. I would have been much more likely to go Chief or Britrock in the case, though I can buy not killing brit since he had some heat yesterday.

vote chief

[mauchow]

I have been getting scanned early lately in these games and I would not be surprised if I was already this game. End result of these scans? No wolves. My play as a villager must scream wolf... I don't think it does but ef and some others continue to think I have a good chance to be one. I do understand that someone has to be a lynch target especially when we have no real evidence pointing to anyone.

I'm looking at danny as someone I may vote for but he's the only one thats been saying that I don't smell wolfy so at this point I'm as lost as can be for who to vote for. I wish I was the seer that's for damn sure.

[Chief Rum]

Okay, if we look at not breaking a tie when you had an opportunity as a bad thing, then, based on posting, I would look at RA, font, path12 and Danny.

RA and font could have switched out their votes and gotten a lynch. path could have switched his vote onto a candidate and gotten a lynch.

I only question Danny because of the whole "just didn't get back in time" thing, but I don't put much weight in that, because I'm certain Danny would lie about real life stuff.

Then the last thing that occurred to me is that Autumn and DT could both be wolves. They figured one of them was going to be lynched no matter what, so why do anything to tip their hands with some move to "save" one or the other? Sure, it's an unlikely coincidence, but not unheard of, and then they got lucky that the lynch was a no-lynch result.

font's deadline move looks shakiest to me.

I put this up early on Day Two. Obviously, RA and font are both now gone and good. So now I am looking at Danny and path12 through the actions yesterday at lynch, and also looking at new candidates based on yesterday's shenanigans.

Danny moved his vote around a lot in the last hour, and ended up on brit. His last vote was made ten minutes before deadline and I believe his was the vote that made brit the lynch candidate. fontisian piled on a few minutes later, setting up EF's unfortunate last minute vote to tie.

path12 made his vote two hours before deadline and didn't participate in the vote switching at the end, which is good, but his vote was on a known villager (fontisian). Mine was on her as well, though, so it is hard for me to fault him.

So path looks guiltier on Day One because he could have broken the tie and chose not to. Danny had RL stuff which kept him away at deadline, so he gets a pass.

On Day Two, Danny looks a bit more suspicious with all his vote switching in the last hour, while path12 stayed out of it. EF moved his vote as much as Danny in that last hour and, of course, made that fateful last vote.

So this is a toughie. Right now, I am leaning path12, because he chose not to break the tie on Day One and voted off a known villager on Day Two.

[Chief Rum]

Not really enough time here to do real analysis. RA was a clear kill going for the seer. I do find it interesting that of the under the radar players they chose to go with Raiders. I would have been much more likely to go Chief or Britrock in the case, though I can buy not killing brit since he had some heat yesterday.

vote chief

I think they must have been seer hunting. I can't see any other explanation for going for UTR Raiders Army. If you're just choosing an UTR player without any particular guidance, I would guess (like you, Danny) that I would be the target, since I have been UTR before and yet still dangerous to wolves.

So I figured they must have seen something in RA's posts that would suggest he was the seer. I looked back and didn't see much that stood out. Probably the most notable things he did was confirm that fontisian is a woman and then he voted me yesterday because he thought I was on at deadline on Day One and didn't change my vote.

[Danny]

I will say that I am fairly lost of who to go for. I am thinking that Autumn and DT are not wolves though.

[Chief Rum]

Let's say you're right, Danny, and Autumn and DT are indeed both villagers. I kinda feel that way, too, although admittedly it's mostly on gut (FWIW).

If you (hypothetical "you") are a wolf and you can break a tie between two villagers, why would you? Guaranteed, a villager dies and the focus is on you, because you made the decision. So instead you beg off, don't make a vote, because even if that is abit odd, it's less odd than actually making a decision which kills a villager.

And that's exactly what path12 did, chose not to break the tie on Day One. A villager breaks that tie, IMO, because he doesn't know if a wolf is on the block and doesn't know what the tie mechanism is. But a wolf has every reason to not break that tie, if we make the guess that Autumn/DT are villagers.

Day Two also ended up in a tie, but that is harder to read because we had a player (EF) actually create the tie at the last second, and I don't have a read on brit's allegiance at all.

I am completely open to all theroies, but right now, I think path12 is a good way to go.

VOTE PATH12

[Zinto]

Official Vote Count:
1 Mau-EF(422)
2 Path-Autumn(426), CR(441)
1 EF-Path(432)
1 Chief-Danny(436)

[path12]

And that's exactly what path12 did, chose not to break the tie on Day One. A villager breaks that tie, IMO, because he doesn't know if a wolf is on the block and doesn't know what the tie mechanism is. But a wolf has every reason to not break that tie, if we make the guess that Autumn/DT are villagers.

Kind of why I was hoping to see some kind of resolution on Autumn's and DT's allegiance with that day 2 vote though it totally changed around between the time I left last afternoon and the deadline.

Also I'm not totally certain that we can assume they've been scanned. Putting myself in the seer's place for a minute I can make a case for scanning font night 1 and EF last night.

That said, I understand the thinking. I regret not breaking the tie day 1 and generally have been so rusty with my WW analysis that I'm not playing a very good game so far. I'm hoping to get better as we go along, if I'm around.

[mauchow]

vote danny

Its silly to bring up yet another candidate but I'm gonna go here for now despite him believing that I'm not a wolf. I'm getting small vibes only from him and occasionally autumn. For autumn i initially get the feeling then i reread things and then i feel better about him. His only play on day one is to essentially do nothing if he is a wolf. A fake reveal on day one in a small game would only last about a day in effectiveness.

Everyone else is a bit unreadable for me right now.

[EagleFan]

I still have the same read on mau and backwards engineering the sal analysis that I posted with a confirmed good font it could lead into a scenario where mau and sal are primary candidates.

Not much time at the moment so I'll try to get across what I can.


brit - still no read on
sal - could easily seem him as a wolf
mau - could have been trying to save sal on day one
DT - let's hope scanned, but if not he could also fall into the trying to save sal category, even more so since his vote was said to be self defense (if I remember correctly) and yet the best self defense vote at that moment would have been for sal
Autumn - assumed scanned
CR - if sal is bad I feel certain CR is good; if sal is good then unsure
path - no read
Danny - starting to feel off with his moves and some of his comments, he seems to be trying to play the "I would have done it this way if I was a wolf" card a bit too much


For some day two analysis we have Danny, path and CR all going after font. Again, I see absolutely no way that a wolf would make that play on day one with just 2 wolves in the game so why the push for a font vote.

[Autumn]

Other people might have played it different than me, but I think it's a sure thing a wolf fake reveals if they're about to get lynched in a game this size. If it's only one day, one day is a lot, and if it gets a role to reveal, that's huge in a small game. So that makes me feel better about DT.

[saldana]

I kind of want to vote for eagle fan...his whole approach today seems like a wolf to me, from his drive by vote to his oversized accusation post.

CR, I like your analysis on Path and will likely end up voting one of those two

[DaddyTorgo]

I like CR's analysis of Path, and I think that's where I'm leaning - although since nobody put together that analysis that I was talking about in my post from the airport this morning I might go back and look at that and see how that squares with path and/or mau, who are two that are high on my list of thoughts just in terms of ""gut" right now.

I just got in from my trip and I'm going to get in an hour's worth of workout (assuming the bike here at my apt. complex is free) before I come back and lay down a vote though. The sweating helps with all sorts of thinking, maybe it'll help us nab a wolf.

[path12]

I kind of want to vote for eagle fan...his whole approach today seems like a wolf to me, from his drive by vote to his oversized accusation post.

CR, I like your analysis on Path and will likely end up voting one of those two

I'll hold my vote on EF for now but obviously will switch it to whatever is the better self-preservation option as the day goes on.

I'm not going to argue the votes against me, as I mentioned I get the reasoning. But I am not a wolf.

[britrock88]

Hrm, 5 candidates, 4 hours from lynch.

[britrock88]

double dola: revenge for burning the White House?

This joke has staying power. :lol:

[britrock88]

1 Mau-EF(422)
2 Path-Autumn(426), CR(441)
1 EF-Path(432)
1 Chief-Danny(436)
1 Danny-Mau(444)

[britrock88]

v-------<-------<-------<-------<--
Danny-> Chief-> Path-> EF-> Mau^
Autumn--^


Eh?

[mauchow]

I get the feeling that those who haven't placed a vote today are going to be the ones we need to be after.

[Autumn]

Going to be a busy evening. I will try to check in several times but may not have much time.

[DaddyTorgo]

hmm - where was that awesome quoted vote layout by britrock...

[britrock88]

Day 1

time post voter votee #
04:21 39 JAG saldana 1
09:16 43 brit Autumn 1
09:46 48 Autumn DT 1
10:29 50 path12 mauchow 1
11:23 51 EF JAG 1
11:59 53 CR saldana 2
14:52 60 mauchow Autumn 2
17:04 64 font saldana 3
17:18 66 DT Autumn 3
17:21 67 JAG x sal 2
DT 2
17:45 73 Danny font 1
17:48 77 RA Autumn 4
18:49 106 Danny x font 0
DT 3
18:53 110 font x sal 1
DT 4


Day 2

time post voter votee #
08:29 184 mauchow Autumn 1
09:15 188 path12 Autumn 2
10:35 193 EF mauchow 1
11:51 197 Danny DT 1
14:24 214 Autumn DT 2
14:26 215 Danny xDT 1
Autumn 3
14:31 217 DT Autumn 4
14:25 220 Danny xAutumn 3
font 1
16:29 231 CR font 2
16:35 232 font DT 2
16:51 233 font xDT 1
17:01 234 RA CR 1
17:06 236 font saldana 1
17:18 238 DT xAutumn 2
17:47 243 mauchow xAutumn 1
18:02 245 path12 xAutumn 0
font 3
19:02 265 Danny xfont 2
brit 1
19:20 280 saldana DT 2
19:20 281 Danny xbrit 0
saldana 2
19:30 290 font xsal 1
mauchow 2
19:32 291 Danny xsal 0
DT 3
19:34 294 DT mauchow 3
19:44 307 EF xmau 2
path 1
19:45 311 EF xpath 0
brit 1
19:50 315 DT xmau 1
brit 2
19:50 316 Danny xDT 2
brit 3
19:52 317 font xmau 0
brit 4
20:00 333 EF xbrit 3
DT 3
[/QUOTE]

Here it is, DT.

[britrock88]

And I've been out at deadline x 2, including missing out on voting altogther yesterday (accidentally, of course), and being a slowpoke today. My voting never does me any favors... :rolleyes:

[britrock88]

Myself, DT, and saldana are the 3 holdouts, for completeness.

[Danny]

I think no one and everyone is a wolf

[britrock88]

And naturally, I think I'd have an easier time justifying a vote on most of the 4 that don't have votes on them than the 5 that do.

[DaddyTorgo]

Okay - here we go

Voters for me on D1, in order

Autumn
JAG (unvoted saldana to vote me)
Danny (unvoted font to vote me)
font (unvoted saldana to vote me)

Voters for me on D2

Danny (later unvoted and revoted)
Autumn
font (later unvoted)
saldana
Danny (unvoted sal and voted me again, later unvoted and moved to brit)
EagleFan
mauchow (tried to vote me but missed due to time)

Based on this - autumn is the only person who voted for me early both days, and nobody voted for me in the middle and stayed on me both days. So maybe Autumn is indeed a wolf?
-saldana voted for me in the middle on d2 and stayed on me


Autumn voters on d1
brit, Mauchow, daddytorgo, raidersarmy

non-autumn/non-dt voters on d1
path (on mauchow), EF (on JAG), CR on saldana

britrock voters on d2
font, danny, daddytorgo

So mauchow participated in the causing of a tie on d1, and then tried to snipe me at deadline on d2. Not sure a wolf would leave an early vote on a fellow wolf on d1 with a tie developing, so either autumn or mauchow seem better to me.

[DaddyTorgo]

path and mau are more suspicious to me, as is autumn. I think based on d1 we can learn about autumn+mau by lynching one of them.

CR is always a tough read for me.

[DaddyTorgo]

Let's see what happens - I'll be around from now till deadline.

VOTE MAUCHOW

[britrock88]

I'm a little disturbed by the remote possibility that Day 1 was a w/w tie -- that'd explain the lack of movement at that deadline. It also plays out very well for the wolves in that continued interest in lynching Autumn or DT would wane. (Autumn's D2 votes disappeared early, and DT, while saved by another tie mechanism, is getting zero attention today.)

[britrock88]

If I'm wrong about that, though, and yesterday was v/v between me and DT, mau's attempted last-minute vote seems wolfish. After D1's tie, you know that tie mechanisms will be weird and not necessarily favor wolves. So it behooves a wolf to make sure a villager gets lynched.

[britrock88]

Time to drive home and mull this over.

[DaddyTorgo]

If I'm wrong about that, though, and yesterday was v/v between me and DT, mau's attempted last-minute vote seems wolfish. After D1's tie, you know that tie mechanisms will be weird and not necessarily favor wolves. So it behooves a wolf to make sure a villager gets lynched.

I'm 100% a villager, so D1 was not w/w, and I can speak for myself being villager yesterday, although I can't speak for you brit.

[path12]

Nothing happening with EF, so:

UNVOTE EAGLEFAN
VOTE MAUCHOW

Reasoning should be pretty clear - self interest.

[mauchow]

unvote danny
Vote path

Unfortunately I have to put on the defensive vote now as wife n I are headed to hospital shortly where I will get to hold 2 lb baby girl for first time tonight. I'll be starting to hold her aboit 15 minutes before deadline but once she is in my hands I'm not allowed to have cell phone anymore. I'll get to check in once maybe twice before that 15 minutes prioe to deadline. No shenanigans from me tonight unless my wife posts for me...which she said she wouldn't lol

[DaddyTorgo]

Enjoy your time with your babygirl mauchow.

[mauchow]

Thanks.

FYI, I am a villager for those who need convincing.

[Chief Rum]

Headed to the other job again, and I won't be around until well after the deadline. Hopefully we don't tie it again.

[Autumn]

WEll, if D1 was wolf/wolf (for the sake of argument) and DT was in another tie vote D2, at least one of those wolves would be scanned, if not now, by tomorrow. So I don't think it's worth wasting much time chasing that remote possibility until we see some evidence of it.

[britrock88]

I'll follow the line of thinking I put out there earlier that mau tried to break the D2 tie because, as a wolf, he feared a second no-lynch.

VOTE mauchow

And this is the count:

4 Mau-EF(422), DT(464), Path(469), Brit(475)
3 Path-Autumn(426), CR(441), Mau(470)
1 Chief-Danny(436)

Saldana yet to vote.

[Danny]

Crap

unvote chief

[Danny]

vote path

[DaddyTorgo]

Why crap danny?

[Danny]

Cause I don't feel good about any vote, usually by now I feel better about a vote im making

[britrock88]

Great question, DT.

4 Mau-EF(422), DT(464), Path(469), Brit(475)
4 Path-Autumn(426), CR(441), Mau(470), Danny(477)

[Danny]

The good news however is that the cultist is likely just as lost as the rest of us lol

[DaddyTorgo]

Also we haven't hit a roled villager yet, and neither have the wolves, so that's helpful.

[britrock88]

I really wish saldana would weigh in on this...

[Danny]

Also we haven't hit a roled villager yet, and neither have the wolves, so that's helpful.

That's true. However, based on percentages, there is a good chance at least one of our candidates today is a wolf or a roled villager.

[DaddyTorgo]

That's true. However, based on percentages, there is a good chance at least one of our candidates today is a wolf or a roled villager.

But a roled villager (or maybe/probably the cultist) would likely reveal/fake reveal if they were on the block, especially in a small game where they could really swing things with any info regarding their personal CoT.

Hopefully one is a wolf!!

[Danny]

But a roled villager (or maybe/probably the cultist) would likely reveal/fake reveal if they were on the block, especially in a small game where they could really swing things with any info regarding their personal CoT.

Hopefully one is a wolf!!

Im basing off the assumption we have 6 roled people with 9 left alive and both you and Autumn not likely a roled villager. Actually, hmm, I just thought of something. Post more on that after I make the poopies

[britrock88]

Hahaha, what a great note to leave on.

[mauchow]

Well also if its any consolation I would have fake revealed or revealed a role I might have had. I'm going into the final part of the day knwoing I won't be around at deadline. As a matter of fact I will probably be checking in after about two hours after deadline when I'm done.. it ain't no ploy.

I got nothin else. I'd rather it be me though if its me and another villager though as I'm just a vanilla roleless villager.

[mauchow]

But a roled villager (or maybe/probably the cultist) would likely reveal/fake reveal if they were on the block, especially in a small game where they could really swing things with any info regarding their personal CoT.

Hopefully one is a wolf!!

Ah I just posted the same damn thing.. oh well my point still counts the same.

[Danny]

Well also if its any consolation I would have fake revealed or revealed a role I might have had. I'm going into the final part of the day knwoing I won't be around at deadline. As a matter of fact I will probably be checking in after about two hours after deadline when I'm done.. it ain't no ploy.

I got nothin else. I'd rather it be me though if its me and another villager though as I'm just a vanilla roleless villager.

You, Autumn and DT all claim to be vanilla villagers. I know one of you is lying (not that anyone else would) because I am a vanilla villager and there can be only three of them left.

[Danny]

DId Zinto confirm that all roles were in the game?

[Danny]

So we have 9 players alive

6 are roled, we have

Wolf
Wolf
Cultist
Seer
BG
Hunter

So we have a maximum of three vanilla villagers.

[mauchow]

You, Autumn and DT all claim to be vanilla villagers. I know one of you is lying (not that anyone else would) because I am a vanilla villager and there can be only three of them left.

Well lets be honest would I pass up the chance to fake reveal ?

I'm fine going with autumn for the third straight day or to dt if necessary.

[Danny]

Autumn was in the lead on day 1 most of the day and for a while right up until deadline. I have to believe if he was a wolf or a cultist, he would have fake revealed. FOr that reason I think Autumn is least likely to be lying about being a vanilla villlager. SO no between DT and Mauboy

[DaddyTorgo]

You, Autumn and DT all claim to be vanilla villagers. I know one of you is lying (not that anyone else would) because I am a vanilla villager and there can be only three of them left.

Assuming you're telling the truth, I know I'm vanilla, so that'll leave us finding out about Mau tonight hopefully, or maybe the seer enlightening us soon?

[mauchow]

Or if roled I'd definitely say it by now especially this close to deadline and me not gonna be around in roughly 15 minutes

[Danny]

DT has never really been in a position in which he was forced to have to fake reveal or where one would have been bought. Mau was an early candidate today and I could see him throwing up a fake reveal.

So out of the three, I think DT is the most likely to not be a vanilla villager which would mean he is a bad guy.

[Zinto]

Official Vote Count:
4 Mau-EF(422), DT(464), Path(469), Brit(475)
4 Path-Autumn(426), CR(441), Mau(470), Danny(477)

[mauchow]

If others want danny up instead of us two I'm game.

[Zinto]

Ding Dong 30 Mins to Deadline