werewolf LIV! Terror at the country club (GAME OVER WOLVES WIN)

[Lathum]

Rules to come. Game is going to be a basic game with some flavor mixed in. I a looking to send out roles monday night/ tuesday morning. We will use a 24 hour deadline with a 10:30 PM EST deadline.

Werewolf is a game of lying, cheating and deciet.

Each day you will vote for one person to be lynched. The player who receives the most votes will be lynched. In the event of a tie there will be no lynch that day.

Each night the wolves will submit a player they want to kill.

All actions will be processed using a deadline of 10:30 EST

Some rules.

There is no editing of posts for whatever reason.
There is no quoting of PM's received from the GM
There is no discussion of the game anywhere other then this thread

Votes for a player will be submitted in bold, for example

VOTE LATHUM

you may unvote a player and revote a player

UNVOTE LATHUM
VOTE PLAYER X


Good Roles


Bartender: You can get anyone wasted. Each night you can get one player wasted and they cant perform their night action.


Club member: You are a member of the club who happend to be around late. Once per game you can use your influence to change the outcome of a lynch vote. You may select another player to be lynched instead.

Valet: You here everything, each night you can pick a player to listen to and determine their loyalties.

Weight room manager: You are lean and mean, each night you can select a player to protect. You may or may not identify the attacker if successful.


Evil Roles

Wolf: You are out to kill everyone and everything. Each night you select a player to attempt to kill

Brutal Wolf: If lynched you can select a player to take with you to the grave.

Goth: You want to be a wolf so bad, you know the wolves identity but they do not know yours. You show up as a human on scans but are considered a wolf for victory conditions. If attacked at night you will become a wolf in every sense.

ITEMS

Throughout the game there are items. If you choose to use an item you must PM me prior to the deadline. You may pass an item to another player by sending me a PM. All items are a 1 time use only and will be removed from the game after use. New items may be introduced or added as the game moves allong

Golf Club: Gives you a 50% chance of surviving a night attack

Kitchen knife: Allows you to perform a one time night kill on any player

Serving tray: gives you a 25% chance of surviving a night attack

Folding Table: You may use this one time to "baricade" a player abd they will be unable to perform their night action.


VICTORY CONDITIONS

The wolves win if they achieve a 1:1 ratio of villager to wolf.

The villagers win if they eliminate all the wolves.

[Lathum]

1. Purduebrad-lynched day 6 -brutal wolf
2. RenderR-lynched day 7- villager
3. Crim-killed by brutal wolf day 6- bartender
4. Chief Rum-killed night 7- villager
5. St.Cronin
6. Daddytorgo-killed night 4- Club Member
7. MrBug708- villager- lynched day 4
8. Molson- killed day 3 by duke
9. RPI-Fan- lynched day 1- valet
10. Oliegirl
11. sebastian0622
12. Eaglefan
13. Passacaglia-lynched day 8- wolf
14. Path12=knifed night 6- wolf
15. Telle- murdered night 3
16. Neon Chaos- lynched day 2- wolf
17. Raiders Army- murdered night 7- villager
18. AlanT- killed night 2- villager
19. Barkeep murdered night 2- villager
20. Hoopsguy
21. Arlington Colt-ltnched day 7- villager

[Lathum]

You have worked a long shift at The Lupin Country Club. Serving the elite members of your community is hard work!

You are about to leave for the night when Lathum returns to the clubhouse and informs everyone that the storms in the area have washed out the bridge on the club exit. It appears you are all going to have to remain in the club until the bridge is repaired. No one can get in and no one can get out!

Lathum volunteers to go check out the damage. You all wait anxiosly, hoping you can leave soon. The minutes tick by, suddenly you hear a door bust open and Lathum runs through. he is covered in blood and his cloths are ripped apart.

"WOLVES, AMONG YOU" he shouts. Then falls to the floor dead.

You all look around, day 1 has begun.

[PurdueBrad]

I would love to be in. It was tough sitting out the last couple after enjoying the first game so much.

[RendeR]

Sign me Up Lathum!

[DaddyTorgo]

in

[Chief Rum]

I'll play, although it will be tougher than usual (I work an entire overtime shift next Saturday before working at the other job).

[Crim]

Crim (villager) in!

[Crim]

Dola, and have you guys seen Schmidty? He seems quiet.

[st.cronin]

I'll play.

[MrBug708]

Down

[molson]

Like clockwork, I join one of these every 6-8 months. So I'm in.

[RPI-Fan]

RPI-Fan in!

[oliegirl]

I'm in - hopefully I won't be the only girl...

[MrDNA]

Well, if it's good for noobs, maybe I can be in, too? Guys?

I have only the most basic idea of what's going on, so I might need some handholding. But I have soft, supple hands, so it shouldn't be TOO bad... :)

[Lathum]

Any new players or people who haven't played in a while I suggest visiting this link.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=53377


in general the veteran players are very helpfull with questions.

[EagleFan]

What the heck, sign me up. Thanks for the quick IM response Lathum.

Does this now mean that I lose my soul (whatever is left of it)? ;)

[Lathum]

Still plenty more room, I will probably close signups tomorrow night and send roles out either tomorrow night or Wednesday morning.

[Passacaglia]

If I can still get in, I would like to.

[path12]

I'll play.

[Telle]

Might as well toss my name in too. I'm not sure I'll have much time for detailed not-taking like usual though.

[RendeR]

Might as well toss my name in too. I'm not sure I'll have much time for detailed not-taking like usual though.

yeah yeah, you say that but you always seem to have a mile long spreadsheet sitting on your computer ;)

[Telle]

yeah yeah, you say that but you always seem to have a mile long spreadsheet sitting on your computer ;)

Yeah but you know all my spare time for the next couple of weeks is going to be put towards getting ready for this dang fundraiser. And so I wanted to forewarn so that I don't hear cries of "She's a wolf!" if I don't manage to keep my spreadsheet up to date.

[Neon_Chaos]

Is it still open?

Throw my name into the mix.

[RendeR]

Nh_ooeCas

[Barkeep49]

Yeah but you know all my spare time for the next couple of weeks is going to be put towards getting ready for this dang fundraiser. And so I wanted to forewarn so that I don't hear cries of "She's a wolf!" if I don't manage to keep my spreadsheet up to date.
You're a wolf. We know it.

I better play so I can make sure that wolf Telle gets her just deserts.

[Telle]

You're a wolf. We know it.

I better play so I can make sure that wolf Telle gets her just deserts.

Well at least it'll be a dry heat...

[Raiders Army]

If it's not open, I'll be an alternate. Been a while since I played a game.

[Alan T]

I'll play.. I know I shouldn't.. buying a new house and likely super busy the next two weeks.. but I'm addicted...

[Barkeep49]

Well at least it'll be a dry heat...
I've found dry/humid doesn't matter after about 115 F

[hoopsguy]

If sign-ups are still going then I'll give this a go. If you guys let me stick around while I get my work/home life back in order post-vacation I'll be my usual chatty self by Day 3 at the latest.

[DaddyTorgo]

If it's not open, I'll be an alternate. Been a while since I played a game.

wb RA!!!

[Barkeep49]

Yeah to having some non-vanilla wolf roles.

[ArlingtonColt]

I'll play... although this is my first time and it sounds a LITTLE confusing... but I'm sure I'll pick it up.

[Passacaglia]

Welcome to the game, ArlingtonColt! You'll pick it up as we go along.

[Lathum]

ok, signups are closed and roles going out shortly.

EVERYONE WHO IS A VILLAGER WILL RECEIVE THIS PM

" YOU ARE A VILLAGER"

If you have an item that will also be in your PM

There will be no discussion of PM's at all !!

Discussion of pm's suck the life from the game

[Barkeep49]

ok, signups are closed and roles going out shortly.

EVERYONE WHO IS A VILLAGER WILL RECEIVE THIS PM

" YOU ARE A VILLAGER"

If you have an item that will also be in your PM

There will be no discussion of PM's at all !!

Discussion of pm's suck the life from the game
I assume you mean starting PMs as opposed to nightly PMs, (such as "I am the seer and found out X is a wolf") or do you mean all PMs?

[Lathum]

I assume you mean starting PMs as opposed to nightly PMs, (such as "I am the seer and found out X is a wolf") or do you mean all PMs?

starting pm's

[RPI-Fan]

Checking in as a villager...

[Lathum]

all PM's have been sent.

The game has begun.

If you have any questions didn't receive your PM please let me know.

I hope everyone has fun!

[Neon_Chaos]

What it is.

[st.cronin]

Wow, fantastic turnout.

[molson]

Villager checking in -

As per my previous werewolf games, I'll say I'll be mostly active the last2 hours before a vote, but then I'll forget I'm at work at constantly post from here anyway.

[molson]

I'm curious - anyone know who can be considered "new" here - I guess three games or less? Seems like a decent amount.

[PurdueBrad]

Villager and newbie here (game #2 for me). Should be active as I have a student teacher for most of my day.

[oliegirl]

Ordinary villager checking in :)

[Alan T]

I'll try to colorcode this list to help you out.. No offense to anyone by the colorcoding, I'll make the Dark Blues be players whom have been here a very long time... Dark Green players who've played before a handful of times , and the Orange are players who are in their first or second game (as far as I remember, maybe in some cases they've played 2-3 times and I just forgot or missed it!)

1. Purduebrad
2. RenderR
3. Crim
4. Chief Rum
5. St.Cronin
6. Daddytorgo
7. MrBug708
8. Molson
9. RPI-Fan
10. Oliegirl
11. Mr.DNA
12. Eaglefan
13. Passacaglia
14. Path12
15. Telle
16. Neon Chaos
17. Raiders Army
18. AlanT
19. Barkeep
20. Hoopsguy
21. Arlington Colt

[molson]

Color coding is awseome - I'm not voting for Alan T.

[PurdueBrad]

Wow, that seems like a pretty good mix of people. I assume 21 is a lot for a game like this.

[Passacaglia]

Vinegar Checking In.

[Barkeep49]

It's great to be around such good chaps. At least I hope you're all good chaps just like me.

[hoopsguy]

I would like to applaud our moderator for his fine work on the PM.

Hint - it did not say "vinegar" like Pass has posted.

[Lathum]

note:

if you possess a golf club or a serving tray it will be automaticaly activated, you do not need to submit an order to use those items

[Telle]

Vanilla villager checking in.

[path12]

Color coding is awseome - I'm not voting for Alan T.

Exactly what he wants you to think. ;)

Checking in. Also checking into work after some time off, so don't expect much till afternoon.....

[DaddyTorgo]

checking in.

and i swear, if you assholes lynch me on D1 AGAIN I'll scream!

[hoopsguy]

So tempting to vote for DT based off of Post #56 :)

[DaddyTorgo]

So tempting to vote for DT based off of Post #56 :)

go for it. *shrug*

[molson]

Before we get too much info, I always lean towards voting for someone who's been around longer, rather than a newbie. Great players are more dangerous as wolves than they are helpful as vineagar, IMO.

[st.cronin]

One comment about Alan's list, I think EagleFan has played more than just a couple of games. I may be wrong, though.

[Alan T]

One comment about Alan's list, I think EagleFan has played more than just a couple of games. I may be wrong, though.


Eaglesfan27 used to play a bunch back a year or longer ago.. this is a different EagleFan that I don't -think- has played with us before.. I could be wrong on that though.

[st.cronin]

Eaglesfan27 used to play a bunch back a year or longer ago.. this is a different EagleFan that I don't -think- has played with us before.. I could be wrong on that though.

I'm pretty sure he was one of my teammates in the Survivor game, and I don't think that was his first game.

[st.cronin]

Before we get too much info, I always lean towards voting for someone who's been around longer, rather than a newbie. Great players are more dangerous as wolves than they are helpful as vineagar, IMO.

I disagree with your premise that I bolded, but on day 1 I do prefer to vote for somebody that has played a few games.

[Alan T]

I'm pretty sure he was one of my teammates in the Survivor game, and I don't think that was his first game.

He wasn't in the survivor game, but I fully well may be wrong and missed some games he played in or just don't remember it right.. That old age thing setting in causes that at times for me :)

[Passacaglia]

Yeah, I think it's just bad form to vote out new people. It just doesn't encourage new blood if we vote them out on D1, when we usually have no reason.

[st.cronin]

He wasn't in the survivor game, but I fully well may be wrong and missed some games he played in or just don't remember it right.. That old age thing setting in causes that at times for me :)

Its just as likely me that's gone senile. Wasn't somebody compiling an encyclopedia of werewolf players at one point?

[Passacaglia]

I would like to applaud our moderator for his fine work on the PM.

Hint - it did not say "vinegar" like Pass has posted.

What? I was just telling everyone the name of my fantasy football team! :confused:

[hoopsguy]

Day 1 approaches:
1.) Get out an early vote based on whatever - see what kind of momentum emerges around candidates
2.) Vote based on random.org
3.) Wait until later in the day to see if you can interpret the momentum around existing candidates
4.) Insert your own logic here

I'll never go with approach #2, as I think random.org is a cop-out. I like to fool myself into believing there is some thread of logic to be discerned in every day and random.org is basically bailing out on trying to find that potentially emerging pattern.

Approach #3 is my usual approach, but I haven't had as much luck with it early in games as I would like so I'm inclined to try #1 today and see if I can force some of the action.

Cronin, I don't think EagleFan has played in any more than one other game - I'm pretty sure I have not played with him previously.

[molson]

I disagree with your premise that I bolded, but on day 1 I do prefer to vote for somebody that has played a few games.

From my experiences (some) veteran players have a tendency to think they've figured everything out, when they haven't. They state their conclusions is definititve terms, and everyone goes along with them. More often then not, they're wrong - and game over.

It probably hasn't happened enough to me to use it as a firm strategy, but I have very little to go on.

[RendeR]

VOTE HOOPSGUY



He's being entirel;y too helpful. Its obviously a ploy.

[ArlingtonColt]

Thanks for the welcome... I suppose I'm supposed to check in :P I'm gonna go study some previous werewolf games to get a gist of what I'm supposed to be doing! :)

[Alan T]

VOTE HOOPSGUY



He's being entirel;y too helpful. Its obviously a ploy.

Hoops is always helpful as both a villager and as a wolf. He's one of those guys that I'll usually give a little slack to at the beginning in case they are on my team. If Hoops is good, he is an excellent villager to have on our side. His being helpful isn't really something that you can go by on day 1.

Worst case scenerio, he ends up being a wolf and gets found out in a few days. He tends to get scanned earlier by a seer than alot of other people, so no real reason in my mind to usually vote him day 1 unless he just slips up somewhere.

[SnDvls]

nevermind: I thought I had signed up for this game and I guess I didn't and forgot...my bad ;(

[Barkeep49]

Thanks for the welcome... I suppose I'm supposed to check in :P I'm gonna go study some previous werewolf games to get a gist of what I'm supposed to be doing! :)
Make sure you also check out The Beginner's Guide (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=53377).

I am going to follow through and give telle her sand

Vote Telle

[RendeR]

UNVOTE HOOPSGUY
VOTE ALAN T


Ok now Alan is defending hoops, thats obviously a ploy.

[DaddyTorgo]

schizo render-voting...fun times!

[RendeR]

UNVOTE ALAN T
VOTE DADDYTORGO


Don't mess with me mister, just because I'm PARANOID doesn't mean no one is out to get me.

[RPI-Fan]

VOTE OLIEGIRL

Hasn't checked in yet, so why not. Open for change if given a reason.

[MrBug708]

Just checking in guys, simple villager checking in to see what's the word on the street

[oliegirl]

VOTE OLIEGIRL

Hasn't checked in yet, so why not. Open for change if given a reason.

Check post #46...I was one of the first ones to check in.

[DaddyTorgo]

*shrug* okay

i'd rather have you vote me than alan or hoops anyways

[hoopsguy]

I'll vote for a guy with a few games under his belt who is normally not in the mix for early scans and is a pretty hard guy to pin down on either side.

VOTE RPI-FAN

[MrBug708]

On a side note, I was kind of upset that that I was seagreen instead of blue for my participating :( I thought I had more games under my belt...

[MrBug708]

Anyone want to go out on teh course for a foursome? Preferably with Telle and Oliegirl and one of their friends. I much prefer someone about 5'5 34C, nice ass, and blond. :)

Or a round of golf would be fine

[Alan T]

On a side note, I was kind of upset that that I was seagreen instead of blue for my participating :( I thought I had more games under my belt...

Sorry! I honestly don't remember how many games you had played, and it had been a while. :)

[MrBug708]

It's ok, it probably was 5 or 6 so it might have qualified anyway :)

[st.cronin]

Vote RendeR

Maybe its just the usual render madness, but me no likey.

[oliegirl]

Anyone want to go out on teh course for a foursome? Preferably with Telle and Oliegirl and one of their friends. I much prefer someone about 5'5 34C, nice ass, and blond. :)

Or a round of golf would be fine

I volunteer to drive the golf cart, but I don't know that I meet your measurement requirements...34C I'm not, though you'll have to take your chances on whether what I have to offer would be better or worse than that ;) Oh, and I'm not blonde...

[MrBug708]

I think for a "foursome" I think that I probably would throw everything out the window :)

[oliegirl]

Glad to know you are willing to relax your standards a bit ;)

Throw me the keys for the golf cart then!!!! FORE!

LOL - couldn't resist...

[Telle]

Anyone want to go out on teh course for a foursome? Preferably with Telle and Oliegirl and one of their friends. I much prefer someone about 5'5 34C, nice ass, and blond. :)

Or a round of golf would be fine

Hmmm.. got three of the four...

[Telle]

schizo render-voting...fun times!

That's kinda funny coming from you. :)

[MrBug708]

Hmmm.. got three of the four...

Is there another girl in this? Maybe I missed them or someone is masquerading as a guy?

[oliegirl]

She meant three of the four "requirements" you laid out...

[RendeR]

Vote RendeR

Maybe its just the usual render madness, but me no likey.


UNVOTE DADDYTORGO
VOTE ST. CRONIN


You always find a reason to vote for me. Damn you man, damn you to hell.

[MrBug708]

She meant three of the four "requirements" you laid out...

True. So now we need one of your sisters, friend, cousin et al and we can play!

[RendeR]

She meant three of the four "requirements" you laid out...


huhuh hhuuh huhuhhhuhh

She said "Laid" huhuhhhuhuhuhuhuh

[Telle]

Yet to check in: Crim, Chief Rum, Mr.DNA, Eaglefan, Raiders Army

Current vote count:
Telle - 1 - Barkeep (74)
Oliegirl - 1 - RPI-Fan (78)
RPI-Fan - 1 - Hoopsguy (82)
RendeR - 1 - St.Cronin (87)
St.Cronin - 1 - RendeR (95)

[Passacaglia]

From my experiences (some) veteran players have a tendency to think they've figured everything out, when they haven't. They state their conclusions is definititve terms, and everyone goes along with them. More often then not, they're wrong - and game over.

It probably hasn't happened enough to me to use it as a firm strategy, but I have very little to go on.

I disagree. I think rookies are the ones who think they know it all, or at least have a sneaking suspicion that they have caught not just one wolf, but two or three in some convoluted chain of protections and communications. However, you're right that people tend to listen to veterans more. I guess a good veteran needs to know that people will agree with them, and the rate at which they agree will not necessarily correlate with how likely they are to be correct.

Anyway, pretty weird Day 1 so far.

[Telle]

I disagree. I think rookies are the ones who think they know it all, or at least have a sneaking suspicion that they have caught not just one wolf, but two or three in some convoluted chain of protections and communications. However, you're right that people tend to listen to veterans more. I guess a good veteran needs to know that people will agree with them, and the rate at which they agree will not necessarily correlate with how likely they are to be correct.

Anyway, pretty weird Day 1 so far.

Ooooh! Oooh! I've done that!!! :)

[Passacaglia]

Ooooh! Oooh! I've done that!!! :)

Yeah, yours was the most recent example that I can remember. I remember being SURE who all three wolves were by the end of Day 1 in my 2nd game, and I was wrong about all three.

[path12]

Anyone want to go out on teh course for a foursome? Preferably with Telle and Oliegirl and one of their friends. I much prefer someone about 5'5 34C, nice ass, and blond. :)

Or a round of golf would be fine

Do manboobs count?

[path12]

Going to wait on my vote until people check in. If someone doesn't, they get the vote. Pretty much the usual day 1 for me.

[EagleFan]

Eaglesfan27 used to play a bunch back a year or longer ago.. this is a different EagleFan that I don't -think- has played with us before.. I could be wrong on that though.

Correct, this is my first venture into WW (first venture into this part of the forum was signing in for this thread). I was in an FOFC Survivor game a while back though.

[EagleFan]

What is the normal ratio of wolves to villagers at the start of a game?

[RPI-Fan]

Probably looking at 16 villagers, 4 wolves, plus the "hidden wolf" (forget what it's called this game.

[Telle]

Well it's less than an hour before I'll leave from work.. not sure whether or not the kids will give me much time to get on again tonight... sooo, I think it's time to start doubling up votes.

VOTE RPI-FAN

He incorrectly stated that oliegirl had not checked in and used that as his reasoning for voting for her.

[DaddyTorgo]

Probably looking at 16 villagers, 4 wolves, plus the "hidden wolf" (forget what it's called this game.

i was just going to say that.

[Alan T]

Normally you will have something like 2 wolves per 8-10 villagers, but as you add more players you often times have more creative rule sets that could vary the wolf number a bit more. Assuming all of the roles are listed in the rules and no hidden roles, it doesn't seem like there are too many of those in this game.

I would say 3-4 wolves is a pretty safe number this size. I would more likely lean to 4 wolves if there isn't any true conversion mechanism.


Also one other note, its usually against the rules to edit or delete posts in the Werewolf games. If you make a mistake or mispell or mistype something, just correct it by posting a new post below it with the correction. :)

[DaddyTorgo]

i'll definately be home and online before deadline, so i'm holding my vote for now

[RPI-Fan]

Sorry for the mistake on saying oliegirl hadn't checked in...

UNVOTE OLIEGIRL

[EagleFan]

Current vote count:
Telle - 1 - Barkeep (74)
RPI-Fan - 2 - Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107)
RendeR - 1 - St.Cronin (87)
St.Cronin - 1 - RendeR (95)


Sorry, just trying to keep track of what's going on.

[PurdueBrad]

Voting later as well as I have a softball double-header at 6. Should be back at 8 pm. Although the wild, random voting of day one kind of sucks!

[oliegirl]

I'll be voting later as well...I have no read on anyone right now and hate bandwagon votes, so I basically have NO idea who to vote for...

[Passacaglia]

I see that of the folks who haven't checked in, most are newbies or returnees who I don't want to vote on Day 1, except Chief Rum.

VOTE CHIEF RUM

[hoopsguy]

Pass, I'm pretty sure that I recall Rum saying the start time was tough for him (double shift, or something like that?) - it resonated because I knew I was going to have some timing issues with this game as well. For better or worse, I decided to leave him out of voting consideration today because of that.

Disclaimer - this thread should not be construed as any kind of defense of Chief Rum, other than to suggest that I've paid attention to previous posts in this thread. Past performance does not guarantee future results. Batteries not included. Voting for Hoopsguy as a result of this post may cause lung disease.

[hoopsguy]

Dola (can't get those in on more active days) - Chief Rum posted about his schedule in Post #7, although it sounds like Saturday was his most challenging day, with the double shift. So disregard my previous concerns about his schedule today.

[st.cronin]

I disagree. I think rookies are the ones who think they know it all, or at least have a sneaking suspicion that they have caught not just one wolf, but two or three in some convoluted chain of protections and communications. However, you're right that people tend to listen to veterans more. I guess a good veteran needs to know that people will agree with them, and the rate at which they agree will not necessarily correlate with how likely they are to be correct.

Anyway, pretty weird Day 1 so far.

I've played in tons of these games, but people hardly ever listen to me.

[Passacaglia]

Thanks, hoops. I'll keep my vote on him for now, and see what happens.

[st.cronin]

Is there anybody who hasn't checked in?

[Neon_Chaos]

I have no idea who to vote for. The first day is always a wash.

VOTE RPI-FAN

Just want to see how it goes. My vote will probably change depending on how the rest of the day shapes up.

[st.cronin]

I find the following players not checked in yet:

Crim
Chief Rum
Mr. DNA

[st.cronin]

dola, plus Raiders Army

[st.cronin]

Make sure you also check out The Beginner's Guide (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=53377).

I am going to follow through and give telle her sand

Vote Telle

I'm not understanding this vote. "sand"?

[Barkeep49]

Voting CR is unwise. He is, in my opinion, the best villager around.

Unvote Telle
Vote Pass

And I think Pass agrees, or at least thinks similarly. I also don't like the RPI voting since the man's just come back to WW. Let him make Day 2 at least.

[Barkeep49]

I'm not understanding this vote. "sand"?
I talked about giving telle her just "deserts" and she made fun of me for not having typed "desserts".

[MrDNA]

Just home from tilling the fields, like all good villegars should do. And if you mofos vote me off the first night, I am totally going to turn into a wolf and rip your asses up.

Er... perhaps I've said too much.

[st.cronin]

Some thoughts:

I'm not a fan of people changing their day 1 vote (barring a reveal). It just seems like it creates too much interference.

I agree with Barkeep that RPI and CR are not ideal candidates, but I'm not sure I know what the ideal day 1 candidate is. Chief Rum is notoriously quiet and even absent for long periods.

[path12]

VOTE CRIM

Pending his showing up, etc, etc, etc.....

[Lathum]

updated voter count

Passacaglia- 1 Barkeep (125)
St.Cronin- 1 RenderR (95)
RPI-Fan- 3 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107), Neon_Chaos (121)
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)

[Alan T]

Vote Neon_Chaos

Didn't like his vote the most so far today. Day one votes dont usually tell us much, but runaway day one votes tell us less.

[EagleFan]

VOTE Neon_Chaos

[molson]

I think rookies are the ones who think they know it all, or at least have a sneaking suspicion that they have caught not just one wolf, but two or three in some convoluted chain of protections and communications.
.

I don't know whether that's true or not, but I can say that I've already figured out who all the wolves are.

[EagleFan]

I don't know whether that's true or not, but I can say that I've already figured out who all the wolves are.

Excellent deduction or clever ruse?

Or that whole sarcasm thing... :D

[MrBug708]

I don't know who to vote for. I like Neon Chaos as a poster, RPI shares my same first name, Chief is a UCLA fan. The others I'm afraid of the alliances they may share....

Hmmmm

[Lathum]

updated voter count

Passacaglia- 1 Barkeep (125)
St.Cronin- 1 RenderR (95)
RPI-Fan- 3 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107), Neon_Chaos (121)
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)
Neon_Chaos- 2 AlanT (131), EagleFan (132)

[st.cronin]

So no vote from:

Purduebrad, Crim, Chief Rum, DaddyTorgo, MrBug708, molson, RPI-Fan, Oliegirl, Mr.DNA, Raiders Army, Arlington Colt

[st.cronin]

Should be a wild deadline.

[Raiders Army]

wb RA!!!

Checking in finally. Work sucked today (like work doesn't ever suck!). Thanks. Glad to be back in a game. My schedule the past month or so has been such that I thought I wouldn't be able to contribute. Hopefully I can this game.

[Raiders Army]

VOTE EAGLEFAN

Didn't like his add on vote on Neon two minutes after AlanT voted.

[ArlingtonColt]

VOTE MRDNA

I suggest he wasn't tilling the fields all day... probably sleeping off last nights blood drinking binge!

[st.cronin]

That makes the number of candidates NINE.

[MrDNA]

VOTE ALAN T

I don't like his "runaway vote" comment... almost like he's trying to save someone...

ArlingtonColt is my backup because he's on to me.

Er... uh...

[Lathum]

updated voter count

Passacaglia- 1 Barkeep (125)
St.Cronin- 1 RenderR (95)
RPI-Fan- 3 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107), Neon_Chaos (121)
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)
Neon_Chaos- 2 AlanT (131), EagleFan (132)
EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140)
MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt
AlanT 1 MrDNA (143)

[hoopsguy]

I'm not sure what to think about the RPI movement behind my initial vote. I don't think it is big enough to consider a huge "runaway" but I was suprised to see him picking up three votes before anyone else had one.

I think it was Cronin who made a comment about changing Day 1 votes - my thoughts on this is that they are more-or-less random until some point where they aren't. That doesn't always happen on Day 1, but every once in awhile the wolves have to generate some movement to save one of their own. If I have a reason to believe that I'm picking up some kind of alliances then I absolutely think a villager should change his vote to test out his theory.

But I don't have that today, so for now I'll sit tight and watch to see what happens.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm back

[RendeR]

Come on people, every9body KNOWS Cronin is always a wolf, even when he's a seer, he's still a wolf and all wolves must DIE....

[molson]

NeonChaos' vote is pretty suspicious, but with so many votes on the table, he had to know that no run-away was going to happen, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

Last time I played, CR was barely around the first 3/4 of the game, so no one suspected him. He was a wolf. It's more likely that his schedule is the consistent thing, rather than the role, but it's something I'll keep in mind.

I want to make it more than a 2 way-race, so people really have to make decisions, so

VOTE ST. CRONIN

[Neon_Chaos]

Vote Neon_Chaos

Didn't like his vote the most so far today. Day one votes dont usually tell us much, but runaway day one votes tell us less.

As I said, I will probably be changing my vote tonight.

If you actually think that I was hoping for a runaway vote, then you give me less credit as a player, AlanT.

Unvote RPI-Fan

Vote AlanT

[Passacaglia]

Voting CR is unwise. He is, in my opinion, the best villager around.

Unvote Telle
Vote Pass

And I think Pass agrees, or at least thinks similarly. I also don't like the RPI voting since the man's just come back to WW. Let him make Day 2 at least.

I agree with your statement about RPI. As for CR, I don't know what to tell you. I'm not over here screaming for his lynching or anything. Anyway, I always thought the consensus was that hoops was the best villager around.

[RPI-Fan]

Because I sure as heck KNOW I'm not a wolf, I have to do whatever possible to get any one of the remaining 20 people who may be one.

Therefore, until some of the votes come off me:

VOTE NEON_CHAOS

[Neon_Chaos]

Come on people, every9body KNOWS Cronin is always a wolf, even when he's a seer, he's still a wolf and all wolves must DIE....

Lol. QFT. :)

I'll probably switch to cronin later, just for shit and giggles.

[molson]

Excellent deduction or clever ruse?

Or that whole sarcasm thing... :D

The third one.

My M.O. is that I have a hundred theories, and incredibly, defying all logic, ALL are always wrong.

[RPI-Fan]

Just saw Neon's changed vote...

UNVOTE NEON_CHAOS

[Alan T]

As I said, I will probably be changing my vote tonight.

If you actually think that I was hoping for a runaway vote, then you give me less credit as a player, AlanT.

Unvote RPI-Fan

Vote AlanT


I call it as I see it. Just like now its the second time you've piled onto someone else's vote except this time you made it like a 4 way tie :)

[molson]

Do we know what happens in the case of a tie?

[DaddyTorgo]

I really have no idea who to vote for

[RPI-Fan]

Do we know what happens in the case of a tie?

"...no lynch that day."

[st.cronin]

I think it was Cronin who made a comment about changing Day 1 votes - my thoughts on this is that they are more-or-less random until some point where they aren't. That doesn't always happen on Day 1, but every once in awhile the wolves have to generate some movement to save one of their own. If I have a reason to believe that I'm picking up some kind of alliances then I absolutely think a villager should change his vote to test out his theory.

I do think changing votes is for the most part not a strong villager play on day 1. However, its not necessarily something I consider wolfish.

[Lathum]

updated vote count

Passacaglia- 1 Barkeep (125)
St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148)
RPI-Fan- 2 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107),
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)
Neon_Chaos- 2 AlanT (131), EagleFan (132)
EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140)
MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt
AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149)

[Neon_Chaos]

I call it as I see it. Just like now its the second time you've piled onto someone else's vote except this time you made it like a 4 way tie :)

I just voted for you because you voted for me. :) If you removed your vote on me, I'll remove my vote on you. No more 4-way tie. :)

[Barkeep49]

Since no one seems to like my Pass voting, I would agree that Neon's votes have repeatedly seemed designed to inspire a bandwagon.

Unvote Pass
Vote Neon Chaos

[st.cronin]

If I need to move my vote, it will be to Neon.

[Barkeep49]

I do think changing votes is for the most part not a strong villager play on day 1. However, its not necessarily something I consider wolfish.
You've mentioned this in this game and earlier games and I just don't see it. Can you delve a little deeper into why you believe this?

[Alan T]

I just voted for you because you voted for me. :) If you removed your vote on me, I'll remove my vote on you. No more 4-way tie. :)

I don't really have any reason to move my vote honestly. We have to lynch someone, and I know the same amount about you as anyone else. Even if it means keeping votes one me and risking my death :)

[MrBug708]

I'm unsure of what "best villager around" means? Does that mean they are good at convincing people of other things? Keeping track of certain facts? I've been out of the loop for a while so I was curious as to what that phrase means. I've seen it in a number of posts already

[EagleFan]

UNVOTE Neon_Chaos

VOTE Hoopsguy

[Lathum]

Just a reminder we are using a 24 hour clock so if you have a night action or wish to activate an item you must submit it with a 10:31 PM EST deadline.

[molson]

Not that you asked me Barkeep, but just passing time-

When someone changes a vote from wolf to villager, or vice versa, (after those identities are revealed later) could be relevant, but on day one, nobody knows who's who except a wolf. After that, thanks to tools/roles, etc, there will be some villagers who KNOW who else is innocent, and thus may change votes to protect someone.

So in a perfect world, if villagers have nothing to gain by switching votes on day 1, since they know nothing, than those that do change votes, are suspicious.

Since it's not a perfect world, and people don't necessarily agree with that, they may change votes for any number of other reasons, so I don't know how much it tells us.

[Neon_Chaos]

I don't really have any reason to move my vote honestly. We have to lynch someone, and I know the same amount about you as anyone else. Even if it means keeping votes one me and risking my death :)

But you've got your vote on the wrong guy, and have probably started a bandwagon on me. Great move AlanT. :rolleyes:

[Barkeep49]

Not that you asked me Barkeep, but just passing time-

When someone changes a vote from wolf to villager, or vice versa, (after those identities are revealed later) could be relevant, but on day one, nobody knows who's who except a wolf. After that, thanks to tools/roles, etc, there will be some villagers who KNOW who else is innocent, and thus may change votes to protect someone.

So in a perfect world, if villagers have nothing to gain by switching votes on day 1, since they know nothing, than those that do change votes, are suspicious.

Since it's not a perfect world, and people don't necessarily agree with that, they may change votes for any number of other reasons, so I don't know how much it tells us.
But what does having single votes on 9 different people tell us?

[Barkeep49]

But you've got your vote on the wrong guy, and have probably started a bandwagon on me. Great move AlanT. :rolleyes:
Versus how many bandwagons have you attempted today? Don't be a hater just cause he's better at it :)

[EagleFan]

But what does having single votes on 9 different people tell us?

Not an experienced player as this is my first time but I would say it would tell us who are not wolves (or are). Just a guess.

[Neon_Chaos]

But what does having single votes on 9 different people tell us?

Just so you know Barkeep. You seem to be against people voting for a big spread of people, and yet you are calling me out on apparently trying to start a bandwagon by voting for me? Isn't that a conflict right there?

[st.cronin]

You've mentioned this in this game and earlier games and I just don't see it. Can you delve a little deeper into why you believe this?

Because changing a vote means something. But, on day 1, it doesn't really mean anything. Its the same as my theory about late votes being unfriendly votes - all it does is cause interference.

[DaddyTorgo]

Just so you know Barkeep. You seem to be against people voting for a big spread of people, and yet you are calling me out on apparently trying to start a bandwagon by voting for me? Isn't that a conflict right there?

valid point by neon

[st.cronin]

Not that you asked me Barkeep, but just passing time-

When someone changes a vote from wolf to villager, or vice versa, (after those identities are revealed later) could be relevant, but on day one, nobody knows who's who except a wolf. After that, thanks to tools/roles, etc, there will be some villagers who KNOW who else is innocent, and thus may change votes to protect someone.

So in a perfect world, if villagers have nothing to gain by switching votes on day 1, since they know nothing, than those that do change votes, are suspicious.

Since it's not a perfect world, and people don't necessarily agree with that, they may change votes for any number of other reasons, so I don't know how much it tells us.

Exactly.

[molson]

But what does having single votes on 9 different people tell us?

Nothing, that's why I gave someone their second vote.

That's why the theory's somewhat flawed. In a perfect world, villagers don't create that spread, so other villagers don't have to change they're votes to avoid it.

So, I guess votes creating a spread could be just as suspicious as those "piling on".

Everyone's suspicious. I usually get to that point day 3, and now I'm here already. Jerks.

[MrBug708]

Vote - Barkeep

Just a feeling here. I agree that NC is trying to start a bandwagon, but I don't think he's doing it because he is a wolf. Then again what do I know, I haven't played for over a year

[MrBug708]

I'm unsure of what "best villager around" means? Does that mean they are good at convincing people of other things? Keeping track of certain facts? I've been out of the loop for a while so I was curious as to what that phrase means. I've seen it in a number of posts already

Anyone?

[RendeR]

Come on people, condense those votes down on the 4 popular people! Y'all know you want to lynch cronin on day 1! he's so lovable afterwards!

[RendeR]

MUHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahah...TEEEHEE!

[st.cronin]

Anyone?

Chief Rum and a couple of others have reputations as being clever villagers, being able to identify who is a wolf and who is not.

[MrBug708]

Chief Rum and a couple of others have reputations as being clever villagers, being able to identify who is a wolf and who is not.

I'm assuming in the later rounds then? At this point unless they are a real life seer it's all luck or other people's stupidity? :)

But fair enough, some people are gifted at reading other people. It just seems like a moot point if they are on the wrong side

[Neon_Chaos]

Anyone have an updated vote count? We need to trim this big spread of suspects down.

[st.cronin]

I'm assuming in the later rounds then? At this point unless they are a real life seer it's all luck or other people's stupidity? :)

But fair enough, some people are gifted at reading other people. It just seems like a moot point if they are on the wrong side

Yeah, in the later stages. Keep in mind its just a reputation - I think some players are very overrated as vinegars...

[DaddyTorgo]

RendeR seems to be coming out pretty hard and fast, don't think he's a wolf, unless Cronin is too and the two of them are trying to play something.

[Barkeep49]

Yeah, in the later stages. Keep in mind its just a reputation - I think some players are very overrated as vinegars...
I think being a villager is very hard (not that being a wolf is easy) and even an excellent villager will be wrong more often than right.

[st.cronin]

This is what I have:

2 - St.Cronin - RenderR (95), Molson (148)
2 - RPI-Fan - Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107),
2 - Neon_Chaos - AlanT (131), Barkeep (162)
2 - AlanT - MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149)
1 - RenderR - St.Cronin (87)
1 - ChiefRum - Passacaglia (115)
1 - Crim - Path12 (129)
1 - EagleFan - RaidersArmy (140)
1 - MrDNA - ArlingtonColt
1 - hoopsguy - EagleFan (167)
1 - Barkeep49 - MrBug (179)

[RendeR]

If i ever were to be a wolf teamed with cronin I'd vote for him anyway ;)

[st.cronin]

I think being a villager is very hard (not that being a wolf is easy) and even an excellent villager will be wrong more often than right.

Exactly.

[st.cronin]

If i ever were to be a wolf teamed with cronin I'd vote for him anyway ;)

Do you have me confused with Hell Atlantic? :confused:

[Neon_Chaos]

Anyone?

I would suppose someone who's willing to wade back hundreds of posts and find out subtle comments from lynched wolves just to save some guy's ass. :)

(just to say, I'm talking about saving your ass back in that other WW game Render! :) )

Anyway, MrBug, I think that you might be on to something with Barkeep. I just don't get his conflicting reasoning.

I don't care if you guys think it's "wolfish" for me to switch my votes. I go with whatever information I have at hand, and currently, it's Barkeep's illogical reasoning.

I'd much rather change my vote as much as I can to reflect my gut whatever feeling I have than others who would prefer to stay on one vote stubbornly just to avoid getting on the radar and being cast into suspicion.

Unvote Alan T
Vote Barkeep

[PurdueBrad]

Okay, bad, bad night of softball so I need a victory somewhere. Maybe we can lynch a wolf, that would be a nice way to end my day on a high note!

vote RPI-Fan for no other reason than Hoops played a good game the last time I played so I'll follow him for the first random lynching.

[RendeR]

Do you have me confused with Hell Atlantic? :confused:


Hrm.... are you obnoxious, self important, assinine and generally annoying?



No...didn't think so.

I'm jsut carrying on our seemingly illogical finger pointing at one another that tends to happen in every game. Someome has gotta get strung up, or in this game, "Driver-ed where it hurts", why not you?

[MrBug708]

I would suppose someone who's willing to wade back hundreds of posts and find out subtle comments from lynched wolves just to save some guy's ass. :)

(just to say, I'm talking about saving your ass back in that other WW game Render! :) )

Anyway, MrBug, I think that you might be on to something with Barkeep. I just don't get his conflicting reasoning.

I don't care if you guys think it's "wolfish" for me to switch my votes. I go with whatever information I have at hand, and currently, it's Barkeep's illogical reasoning.

I'd much rather change my vote as much as I can to reflect my gut whatever feeling I have than others who would prefer to stay on one vote stubbornly just to avoid getting on the radar and being cast into suspicion.

Unvote Alan T
Vote Barkeep


Now people are going to associate me with you and thus a possible wolf! Blah!

[MrBug708]

Hrm.... are you obnoxious, self important, assinine and generally annoying?

Don't forget the sandwich!

[RendeR]

ACk!...sorry lathum, I edited that to add everything after annoying....my bad totally.
Gah. I suck.

[oliegirl]

Man...I still don't have a read on anyone, and I really hate to be the deciding vote when I'm not sure of someone's wolf/villegar status...but I have to vote so...

Vote Neon_Chaos

I read through the stuff I missed between 6:30 and now, and definitely agree that it appears that he's trying to start a bandwagon. I had suspicions on him in the last game I played though, and they turned out to be wrong...but with nothing else to go on, I have to go on this.

[st.cronin]

Does this look right:

3 - RPI-Fan - Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107), PurdueBrad (194)
3 - Neon_Chaos - AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), oliegirl (199)
2 - St.Cronin - RenderR (95), Molson (148)
2 - Barkeep49 - MrBug (179), Neon Chaos (193)
1 - AlanT - MrDNA (143)
1 - RenderR - St.Cronin (87)
1 - ChiefRum - Passacaglia (115)
1 - Crim - Path12 (129)
1 - EagleFan - RaidersArmy (140)
1 - MrDNA - ArlingtonColt
1 - hoopsguy - EagleFan (167)

[RPI-Fan]

VOTE PURDUEBRAD

Shadiness.

[hoopsguy]

Anyone?

My take on "best villagers" is that these are the people who, without benefit of any special role-based knowledge, most consistently determine who are the wolves. Particularly in mid-game play, but also in making the right decision the vast majority of the time in late-game play when there is more total information but no clear-cut choice.

[RendeR]

Ok, when did I pick up and extra r in my name?

RenderR?

[RendeR]

Dances around in circles tapping everyone on the shoulder screaming "DUCK....DUCK....DUCK....DUCK........GOOOOOOOOOOSEEE!" and running frantically around the others away from the goose and sitting down.

[PurdueBrad]

VOTE PURDUEBRAD

Shadiness.

Hehe, I teach in an unair-conditioned building, I wish it was shady here! RPI, I may still move my vote if I see reason. Worst case scenario though, I think we have a tie which means no lynch. Somebody convince me of their feeling and I'm willing to roll with it.

[Neon_Chaos]

Dances around in circles tapping everyone on the shoulder screaming "DUCK....DUCK....DUCK....DUCK........GOOOOOOOOOOSEEE!" and running frantically around the others away from the goose and sitting down.

what. the. fuck.?

[Lathum]

updated vote count


St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148)
RPI-Fan- 3 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107), PurdueBrad (194)
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)
Neon_Chaos- 3 AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), Oliegirl (199)
EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140)
MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt
AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149)
HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167),
Barkeep -1 MrBug (179)
PerdueBrad-1 RPIFan (201)

[RendeR]

Hehe, I teach in an unair-conditioned building, I wish it was shady here! RPI, I may still move my vote if I see reason. Worst case scenario though, I think we have a tie which means no lynch. Somebody convince me of their feeling and I'm willing to roll with it.


What more reason do you need?? its spelled


St. Cronin


cmon, its Easy!!


*cackles maniacly*

[oliegirl]

Lathum - you didn't include my vote for Neon_Chaos...

[RendeR]

what. the. fuck.?


HAHA! NOW I have you!!

[RendeR]

YARRRRR!

[st.cronin]

Lathum, I think you missed a vote by oliegirl. Post 199.

[oliegirl]

Shouldn't that be RenderRRRRRRRR? ;)

[hoopsguy]

A thought on our seer, in the event that they care to take any advice - I would love to see a scan of one of the leading (non-lynched) vote getters today. If we get a villager, and another top vote-getter is also a villager per scan, then start looking hard at the posts by people voting on those two parties.

Example - Neon and RPI have the top two vote totals, with RPI getting lynched as villager. A scan shows that Neon was also a villager. Chances are that you can
1. discard one vote (self-preservation by the villager)
2. discard another vote (attempted self-preservation by the dead villager)
3. potentially the seer voted for one of those candidates

Maybe all three don't come into play, but in a vote that is as shallow (leaders with 3 votes) and deep (10+ candidates) I think that this strategy makes a good amount of sense for today.

[PurdueBrad]

RPI, I apparently can't count, to preserve the tie,

unvote RPI

[oliegirl]

I'm completely exhausted and there is no way I can stay awake til 10:30...I'm heading to bed and will check in tomorrow mroning about 9:45 when I get to work...

[st.cronin]

RPI, I apparently can't count, to preserve the tie,

unvote RPI

Um, actually that BREAKS the tie. I have:

3 - RPI-Fan - Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107), PurdueBrad (194)
3 - Neon_Chaos - AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), oliegirl (199)
2 - St.Cronin - RenderR (95), Molson (148)
2 - Barkeep49 - MrBug (179), Neon Chaos (193)
1 - PurdueBrad - RPI-fan (201)
1 - AlanT - MrDNA (143)
1 - RrenderR - St.Cronin (87)
1 - ChiefRum - Passacaglia (115)
1 - Crim - Path12 (129)
1 - EagleFan - RaidersArmy (140)
1 - MrDNA - ArlingtonColt
1 - hoopsguy - EagleFan (167)

Your unvote puts Neon in the lead.

[RPI-Fan]

Or, let's make this easy and not lynch an f'ing villager in the first place????

[RendeR]

Dude, thats was like....soooo deep mon...it was almost shallow it was so deep, ya know?

[RPI-Fan]

UNVOTE PURDUEBRAD

[RendeR]

Shouldn't that be RenderRRRRRRRR? ;)


nah, I preser RRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrEEnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnDERRrrrrrrrrrrrr!

[PurdueBrad]

What more reason do you need?? its spelled


St. Cronin


cmon, its Easy!!


*cackles maniacly*

Now that was a hell of a case! It's like the Johnny Cochrane Wookie defense from South Park!

[RendeR]

Prefer even, god damnit.

[PurdueBrad]

I briefly read through the thread, we are assuming four wolves? Is that normal, high, or low?

[molson]

There's not enough golf references in people's posts.

[Neon_Chaos]

RPI, I apparently can't count, to preserve the tie,

unvote RPI

You just broke the tie and made me the vote leader. :(

And apparently, you can't count.

[Neon_Chaos]

I briefly read through the thread, we are assuming four wolves? Is that normal, high, or low?

Just about normal, considering there's a possibility for the Wolves to convert someone.

[PurdueBrad]

You just broke the tie and made me the vote leader. :(

And apparently, you can't count.

Yeah, I saw Cronin's post and I'm sitting on the fence. I read Lathum's earlier and thought that it had a tie listed so either I can't read or there was an error. Hope I can read since I'm an English teacher.

[st.cronin]

Still no sign of Chief Rum or Crim.

[PurdueBrad]

Maybe this is a naive, newbie question. Why don't we try to engineer ties?

[PurdueBrad]

Looking back, I just can't read apparently. (embarrassed)

[Lathum]

updated vote count


St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148)
RPI-Fan- 2 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107),
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)
Neon_Chaos- 3 AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), Oliegirl (199)
EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140)
MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt
AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149)
HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167),
Barkeep -1 MrBug (179)

[RendeR]

There's not enough golf references in people's posts.


Quiet or we'll 9-iron you out onto the 18th fairway and string your wolfy butt up on the flag so your blood collects in the final cup. many strokes later of course.




Better?

[Neon_Chaos]

updated vote count


St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148)
RPI-Fan- 2 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107),
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)
Neon_Chaos- 3 AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), Oliegirl (199)
EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140)
MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt
AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149)
HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167),
Barkeep -1 MrBug (179)

My vote is on Barkeep, Lathum.

[MrBug708]

updated vote count


St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148)
RPI-Fan- 2 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107),
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)
Neon_Chaos- 3 AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), Oliegirl (199)
EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140)
MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt
AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149)
HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167),
Barkeep -1 MrBug (179)

Your list seems to contradicts St. Cronin's list. I think that Neon still has voted for Barkeep?

[st.cronin]

Maybe this is a naive, newbie question. Why don't we try to engineer ties?

I'm not opposed to that idea.

[Barkeep49]

Maybe this is a naive, newbie question. Why don't we try to engineer ties?
Hard to do. Some (and I think I'm in this camp for this game) think that a no lynch on Day 1 is a bad thing. I could be wrong here though due to the extra BG element running around with the items of protection.

[Barkeep49]

Still no sign of Chief Rum or Crim.
I am completely OK with lynching a non-participating villager Day 1. I know CR said he was busy d1 so I'll cut him so slack. In otherwords, if there is some movement I could see myself voting for Crim.

[RendeR]

I'm not opposed to that idea.


Ties mean no lynch, you normally HATE no lynch......now I'm beginning to be truely suspicious.

[st.cronin]

Ties mean no lynch, you normally HATE no lynch......now I'm beginning to be truely suspicious.

:confused: I am probably the MOST vocal proponent of no lynch in game after game.

[Neon_Chaos]

I am completely OK with lynching a non-participating villager Day 1. I know CR said he was busy d1 so I'll cut him so slack. In otherwords, if there is some movement I could see myself voting for Crim.

If it means saving my villager ass, I would be willing to go this route as well. It really sucks that we're not even considering voting out the people who haven't shown up and giving them a free pass for night one, when there are a lot of us online right now.

[Lathum]

updated vote count

Neon_Chaos- 3 AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), Oliegirl (199)
St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148)
RPI-Fan- 2 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107),
Barkeep -2 MrBug (179), Neon Chaos (193)
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)
EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140)
MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt
AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149)
HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167),

[MrBug708]

We don't have an official tie yet, things can change in the next 30 minutes

[molson]

Starting to lean towards changing my vote for Crim. But I don't want a landslide in that direction either.

[EagleFan]

updated vote count


St.Cronin- 2 RenderR (95), Molson (148)
RPI-Fan- 2 Hoopsguy (82), Telle (107),
RenderR- 1 St.Cronin (87)
ChiefRum- 1 Passacaglia (115)
Crim- 1 Path12 (129)
Neon_Chaos- 3 AlanT (131), Barkeep (162), Oliegirl (199)
EagleFan-1 RaidersArmy (140)
MrDNA- 1 ArlingtonColt
AlanT 2 MrDNA (143), Neon_Chaos (149)
HoopsGuy -1 EagleFan (167),
Barkeep -2 MrBug (179), Neon Chaos (193)

You have Neon_Chaos listed as voting twice on this one.

[RendeR]

:confused: I am probably the MOST vocal proponent of no lynch in game after game.


*I* know this







*YOU* know this.....

[Neon_Chaos]

If someone changes to Crim, I will put my vote that way as well.

[RendeR]

But THEY don't know this......





err



well they do now...

DAMNIT.

[RPI-Fan]

somethings fishy...that has N_C voting twice

[molson]

I'm starting to think Lathum's with the wolves.