Towel Boy Basketball Returns!

[Coffee Warlord]

Athletic Prestige is not what you think it is.

It is the measure of how skilled the current players on your roster are. The recruit in question wants to play with studs, and thusly the more good players you have on your team, the more appealing your school is to him.

Traditional school prestige is something I wanna add down the road.

[k0ruptr]

damn my 3rd string center is a baller.

[k0ruptr]

FEAR the loco mocos 59-31 with 10mins to play

[Coffee Warlord]

C'mon, hold them you fuckers.

[k0ruptr]

damn Peoria has gone on a 12-0 run, Honolulu still up by 20, but BLOW EM OUT BOYS

[Coffee Warlord]

00:10 SF Burt Ruff takes the ball for Palm Springs.
00:10 SF Burt Ruff sets up the offense, guarded by SF Philip Evans of Stone Mountain Tech.
00:10 SF Burt Ruff shoots and scores. Two for Palm Springs and the foul! (62 - 67)
00:10 Burt Ruff missed the free throw.
00:10 SG Peter Baker of Stone Mountain Tech grabs the rebound.

And with that nail in the coffin, we hold out to win 67-64 in a thriller.

[k0ruptr]

my team went on cruise control in the 2nd half but won 72-56

[Antmeister]

Okay, that was pretty kickass. Pretty cool to see the game play out.

[Coffee Warlord]

Stats, standings, etc update at 7:00pm, btw. So a few minutes.

[Eaglesfan27]

I don't see a way to see a box score or stats, yet. However, I know my C had a huge day. If I can find some players to surround him with besides our senior SF, we'll be a good team. It was closer than expected, but we start off with a nice win, 74-70.

[Antmeister]

I will take my 77-65 win against the Northeastern Huskies. Go NSDU Purple Pirates!!!

[k0ruptr]

I had a great team effort as my 12 man rotation worked out well.

[Eaglesfan27]

My starting PF and starting C combined for 52 points and 14 boards in our win today.

[Coffee Warlord]

Senior superstar guard Harvey Fenneralmeida racks up 23 points on 11/17 shooting. Needed it.

[Tasan]

Found the box scores. For those that haven't, click your team link on the left, then select Schedule. Then, click the score of the game you want to see the box and game log of.

Anyway, what a game by my Aggies! Battling Icy's Swordmasters, we hit the tieing jumper at the buzzer to send it to overtime. We pulled away and held on at the end to win 81-79. My backcourt had 45 points, with my senior SG hitting the game tieing J to send us to overtime.

[rjolley]

Just gotta suspend disbelief on that particular thing, since there's not really any displayed stoppage.Ok, no problem, just wanted to mention it.

[wade moore]

Stats, standings, etc update at 7:00pm, btw. So a few minutes.
Ok, this was somethign I remember being tough before so I'm going to ask before I go to the site - since i wasn't around when the games simmed live, how can I go in and see the pbp without seeing the results first?

[rjolley]

Great game, CW. Thought we had you.

Loks like my PFs are my best players. Nice.

Dunno what I'm going to do for points from the wing. Maybe a shift in strategy...

[Coffee Warlord]

Ok, this was somethign I remember being tough before so I'm going to ask before I go to the site - since i wasn't around when the games simmed live, how can I go in and see the pbp without seeing the results first?

Right now, no such way exists. Gotta think on that one.

[wade moore]

Right now, no such way exists. Gotta think on that one.

Yeah, no-spoiler link will be crucial to my enjoyment of the game to be honest. If I'm just looking at final scores and not gamelogs (which will happen if I see scores first) it really detracts from my enjoyment personally.

[wade moore]

Maybe if clicking "play by play" just automatically goes back to your most recent game?

[wade moore]

My 6'8" 290 lbs. Center took control of the game leading the team with 24 points, 9 rebounds, and 2 blocks to take a 64-53 home win to start the season.

My team played about like I expected and it really all seems to have worked out like I hoped. I have no idea if Grand Rapids is a good team or not (and I guess we won't know who is good and who is not for a bit) but I'm definitely happy to start out with a win.

[Coffee Warlord]

And...just as you looked, my hack for that is in.

There's a link on the nav called 'Recap'.

It's a carbon copy of your schedule, without game results. Clicking on that link will give you the play by play with the score/stats at the bottom instead of the top.

[wade moore]

And...just as you looked, my hack for that is in.

There's a link on the nav called 'Recap'.

It's a carbon copy of your schedule, without game results. Clicking on that link will give you the play by play with the score/stats at the bottom instead of the top.
I guess I was too anxious to see the results ;)

Thanks CW!

[Coffee Warlord]

I guess I was too anxious to see the results ;)

Thanks CW!

You could just log on and watch the PBP as it unfolds at 6:10pm ya know, you slacker. :)

[mauchow]

Great stuff.

The Apples start out 1-0. We're going undefeated!!

[Katon]

Eleven points down with seven minutes left, eight down with five minutes left, five down with a minute to play, and my lot *still* managed to win. By one point. At home to a team which didn't make any substitutions. With all our big men combining for a total of two points.

It's going to be an interesting season.

[JeeberD]

Down go the Lackademics! Huzzah for the Dolaposting Miners!!!

[JeeberD]

Dola-

And that was without attempting a single three point shot!

[wade moore]

You could just log on and watch the PBP as it unfolds at 6:10pm ya know, you slacker. :)

;).. I tend to go to a sports bar, buddy's place, etc to watch football ;)

[Anthony]

Violatars are 1-0. i accept that. i wanted to go 2-0 but i'll take the win.

[lordscarlet]

A well balanced offense (four players in double digits) pulls the District Stars to a convincing 76-58 defeat of MikeVic's U of M Bisons!

[Passacaglia]

My 6'8" 290 lbs. Center took control of the game leading the team with 24 points, 9 rebounds, and 2 blocks to take a 64-53 home win to start the season.

My team played about like I expected and it really all seems to have worked out like I hoped. I have no idea if Grand Rapids is a good team or not (and I guess we won't know who is good and who is not for a bit) but I'm definitely happy to start out with a win.

Fixed.

[Coffee Warlord]

By the by, recruiting ran this morning, so you should all have a mess of PM's in your box detailing your efforts.

[Anthony]

i love that this goes on during my work hours. this is exactly what i wanted, just something to entertain me throughout the day. good job CW.

[lordscarlet]

Can we get the turn-run schedule on the site somewhere? Or if it's there, a link so this dummy can find it?

[Coffee Warlord]

Help -> Legend

[lordscarlet]

Help -> Legend

Thanks! No wonder I couldn't find it. :)

[Coffee Warlord]

Also, to field a question before it arises re: recruiting.

If you're heavily recruting someone and get the 'not very interested', yeah, you prolly shouldn't bother.

Moderate and especially light recruiting, you still may have a shot at 'em if you bump up your efforts. It's much harder to tell on the lesser recruiting, though. Those basically exist to pump some points into your second tier of recruits while you weed out your top boys.

[wade moore]

Fixed.Er? I didn't see anything different.

[MikeVic]

A well balanced offense (four players in double digits) pulls the District Stars to a convincing 76-58 defeat of MikeVic's U of M Bisons!

My team played with heart!

[rjolley]

By the by, recruiting ran this morning, so you should all have a mess of PM's in your box detailing your efforts.Is there a way to get the info from the PMs onto the Recruiting screen?

Is there any way to gauge a player's interest before you recruit him?

[Coffee Warlord]

Is there a way to get the info from the PMs onto the Recruiting screen?

Directly, no. I'll see what I can do there, though.

[MikeVic]

Is there a way to make your Statistics screen sortable? So I can click on "Pts" and see an ascending or descending view for my team?

[Passacaglia]

Er? I didn't see anything different.

The game is what was fixed. :p

[wade moore]

The game is what was fixed. :p


Oh.. hahahaahha ;)...

[lordscarlet]

My team played with heart!

...we also had the highest score in the Dean Houston Conference while sitting in third place in points allowed!

[MikeVic]

...we also had the highest score in the Dean Houston Conference while sitting in third place in points allowed!

Quiet you.

I looked at the league leaders quickly, and noticed that playres have 6 and 7 fouls... isn't the limit 5? Also noticed that a bunch of computer teams seem to play their starting lineups for 45 minutes? So they played them the entire game, and overtime?

[Coffee Warlord]

Okay, new toy.

On your recruiting list, there is a new field, "Current Opinion". This gauges the level of interest the recruit has for you at the moment.

Values, from worst to best (and you cannot feasibly get to the top levels in the first week)...

unfavorable
no opinion
barely interested
somewhat interested
very interested
positive
very positive
highly positive
favorable
very favorable
highly favorable
worshipful

[lordscarlet]

Quiet you.

I looked at the league leaders quickly, and noticed that playres have 6 and 7 fouls... isn't the limit 5? Also noticed that a bunch of computer teams seem to play their starting lineups for 45 minutes? So they played them the entire game, and overtime?

..speaking of 45 minutes. I assume endurance does play a role in performance?

[Coffee Warlord]

Quiet you.

I looked at the league leaders quickly, and noticed that playres have 6 and 7 fouls... isn't the limit 5? Also noticed that a bunch of computer teams seem to play their starting lineups for 45 minutes? So they played them the entire game, and overtime?

The AI doesn't sub. It sucks, I hate it, but I haven't figured out a smart way to set a sub routine for the AI.

There's no fouling out yet, as I noted on the other board.

Endurance most definately plays a role. I'm considering making it an even bigger role. The way fatigue works is pretty straightforward. Your player's attributes naturally decline over the course of the game (while they are in). Having a high endurance slows this dows. Endurance also helps with a few other things during the game. Those teams who aren't subbing are basically fielding utter trash by the later stages of the game. A team rotating in fresh players will have a major advantage every time.

[lordscarlet]

The AI doesn't sub. It sucks, I hate it, but I haven't figured out a smart way to set a sub routine for the AI.

There's no fouling out yet, as I noted on the other board.

Endurance most definately plays a role. I'm considering making it an even bigger role. The way fatigue works is pretty straightforward. Your player's attributes naturally decline over the course of the game (while they are in). Having a high endurance slows this dows. Endurance also helps with a few other things during the game. Those teams who aren't subbing are basically fielding utter trash by the later stages of the game. A team rotating in fresh players will have a major advantage every time.

Is there anything in the log to give us an indication of how fatigued a player is? Right now we have an arbitrary "rating" for endurance without any real way to gauge it. Most of the other numbers we can read from stats, but I don't know that there's a good way to tell how fatigued a player is and be able to gauge endurance against that as well as when to sub those players out.

[Coffee Warlord]

Is there anything in the log to give us an indication of how fatigued a player is? Right now we have an arbitrary "rating" for endurance without any real way to gauge it. Most of the other numbers we can read from stats, but I don't know that there's a good way to tell how fatigued a player is and be able to gauge endurance against that as well as when to sub those players out.

I considered last night putting in something in the PBP to mark endurance, and I still am, actually. What I'm worried about is having a shit-ton of spam in the PBP log yapping about endurance. So it's gonna require some thought.

[ntndeacon]

The Fighting Creeks had a very nice opener at the Wigwam. Red Mountain State beat up on Neon Chaos' De La Salle U. 79-44. Plus I got a positive and a very positive response on my two scholie offers. (One of my lower recruited guys also was very positive.)

[MikeVic]

The Fighting Creeks had a very nice opener at the Wigwam. Red Mountain State beat up on Neon Chaos' De La Salle U. 79-44. Plus I got a positive and a very positive response on my two scholie offers. (One of my lower recruited guys also was very positive.)

I have a couple of very positive and one highly positive. Although I think the highly positive one for sure was someone I just went after because the desires match, and he's not the greatest prospect.

[Coffee Warlord]

Okay, I added a little blurb describing how tired someone is when they are subbed out. You'll see this in Wednesday's games.

Note: A guy with shitty endurance to begin with, no matter how little you play him, is going to always look pretty gassed after he's been on the floor.

[Anthony]

any way to list which training programs affect which ratings? some are obvious, others aren't.

[Coffee Warlord]

RTFM. :) It's under "team" section in the help.

[rjolley]

Okay, new toy.

On your recruiting list, there is a new field, "Current Opinion". This gauges the level of interest the recruit has for you at the moment.

Values, from worst to best (and you cannot feasibly get to the top levels in the first week)...

unfavorable
no opinion
barely interested
somewhat interested
very interested
positive
very positive
highly positive
favorable
very favorable
highly favorable
worshipful
Thanks, that helps a lot.

[Passacaglia]

oh crap recruiting was last night? whoops

[vex]

A couple of things.

First can you change the league games representation to (C)? Or are you using that for championship games?

Also, how about some all-conference stats, instead of just league wide?

[MikeVic]

Also, how about some all-conference stats, instead of just league wide?


I'd like that too. To separate the computer's non-subbing stats with ours.

[vex]

Also, can you put the info we get from recruiting on the player pages so that we don't have to go back to the inbox for every recruit?

[vex]

On the season schedule, can you put the teams records beside the team?

[vex]

This recruit was ecstatic about our school from the moment we spoke. He is very interested, and we have a very good chance for him to accept our scholarship offer.

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What you like to see when 5 other schools have scholarships out to the guy:)

[MikeVic]

This recruit was ecstatic about our school from the moment we spoke. He is very interested, and we have a very good chance for him to accept our scholarship offer.

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What you like to see when 5 other schools have scholarships out to the guy:)

You better not be going after my guy, wanker.

[vex]

A Mr. Dexter?

[Coffee Warlord]

Stay the fuck away from Dexter. :)

[MikeVic]

You mother fucker. Stay away from him if you know what's good for you.

edit: :)

[vex]

Just curious, since his primary desire is superstar, did you all get the same message?

[MikeVic]

I saw Primary Superstar as his desire.

edit: but I got a different response. A lesser one than you. It said something like he's very interested... and we believe we're not wasting a scholarship on him. Your's makes it seem like a sure thing for you.

'This recruit seemed very interested in playing for us. We believe our scholarship offer is not wasted.'

[vex]

I'm upset that Michael Jang isn't interested though:(

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This recruit did not seem very interested in our school. Perhaps our scholarships would be better spent elsewhere.

[MikeVic]

I didn't have one for him.

[rjolley]

Does a scholarship offer increase a player's interest as well as the level of intensity?

[Coffee Warlord]

Does a scholarship offer increase a player's interest as well as the level of intensity?

No.

[Coffee Warlord]

Also, how about some all-conference stats, instead of just league wide?

Done.

[vex]

Done.

Awesome, thanks.

[vex]

<TABLE class=body cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD align=middle width=200>Player Name</TD><TD align=middle width=150>School Name</TD><TD align=middle width=30>Yr <TD align=middle width=30>Fou</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle width=200>Tito Baker</TD><TD align=middle width=150>Sacramento (http://tbb.officepimps.com/teamview.php?TeamID=294)</TD><TD align=middle width=30>3</TD><TD align=middle width=30>6.0</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD align=middle width=200>Jerry Ianiero</TD><TD align=middle width=150>Sacramento (http://tbb.officepimps.com/teamview.php?TeamID=294)</TD><TD align=middle width=30>2</TD><TD align=middle width=30>6.0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

6 fouls?

[rjolley]

Fouling out hasn't been implemented yet.

[vex]

k, thx

[Coffee Warlord]

Sortable team statistics are now in.

[MikeVic]

Thanks!!

[vex]

Very nice, thanks!

[rjolley]

How are free throws rated currently? Are they connected to Aggression right now, or is it tied to something else?

[Coffee Warlord]

Nothing is tied to a single stat.

That said, without looking, I'm pretty sure Mental is one of the more important stats for free throw shooting.

[vex]

Yeah, help file says Mental.

[rjolley]

Thanks, missed that.

[Tasan]

I have to say this has been pretty fun.

[wade moore]

I have to say this has been pretty fun.+1

[k0ruptr]

Wow first week of recruiting is completely HORRID for me.

[wade moore]

Wow first week of recruiting is completely HORRID for me.
I'm actually in very good shape. 3 of my heavily recruited guys are very interested, as well as several of my lower guys.

[wade moore]

Of course, it could mean I'm not evaluating guys that well and they might not be that good ;)

[k0ruptr]

well, I have some very interested. but not many

[Coffee Warlord]

Just repeat after me and all will be well.

"I will stay away from Dexter."

[vex]

"Dexter, how about a new Lexus? Ok, ok, one each for you and your mom. We have ways around that here at OU ;) "

[vex]

CW, I don't seem to be able to get rid of this guy from my "Your Recruits" screen:

<TABLE class=body cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>PF - Kevin Domingue (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/nope) (offer scholarship (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/nope)) </TD></TR><TR><TD>He is 18 years old, 6'8" tall, weighing 195 pounds</TD></TR><TR><TD>A high school senior, out of Austin, TX</TD></TR><TR><TD>High school cumulative GPA of 3.10</TD></TR><TR><TD>Primary Desire: Local School </TD></TR><TR><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Current Opinion: no opinion</TD></TR><TR><TD>1 schools are currently visiting this player, with 0 scholarship offers. </TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=10></TD><TD><TABLE class=body cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=right>Aggression:</TD><TD width=150>weak / exceptional</TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>Awareness:</TD><TD>decent / potent</TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>Control:</TD><TD>questionable / potent</TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>Endurance:</TD><TD>negligible / acceptable</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD width=25></TD><TD><TABLE class=body cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=right>Mental:</TD><TD width=150>weak / formidable</TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>Physical:</TD><TD>weak / incredible</TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>Speed:</TD><TD>questionable / decent</TD></TR><TR><TD align=right>Strength:</TD><TD>weak / strong</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[vex]

Are recruits GPAs static?

[vex]

And do recruits mind if you're recruiting another player at the position as them?

[Coffee Warlord]

Fixed. Unexpected side effect of a little tweak I made last night.

And to answer your questions....

Yes, and No.

[lordscarlet]

I only recruited one guy. :(

[rjolley]

I only recruited one guy. :(That's a great strategy. You should..ummm..only recruit one. That's all you'll ever need. :)

[MikeVic]

Yeah, I'm going to get rid of all my recruiting offers too and follow lordscarlet's strategy. I'll start my getting rid of the one on Randy Dexter, and I suggest you all follow suit. This seems like a fool-proof strategy.

[rjolley]

Ok, I checked out this Randy Dexter fellow. He looks like a good player. Thanks for the tip.

[MikeVic]

Hey that's not funny.

[rjolley]

Sure it is. I told Randy and his family about it over dinner on the school jet on our way to Chicago so he could play pickup with the Bulls. We all had a big laugh over it...reminded me of Doctor Evil and his henchmen in Austin Powers.

[MikeVic]

That's it... I better send over a nice gift basket of chocolates to counter this action!

[Coffee Warlord]

Randy prefers the warmth of the Coachella Valley, thank you.

Especially the warmth of the hot California women we put underneath him.

[MikeVic]

Randy prefers the warmth of the Coachella Valley, thank you.

Especially the warmth of the hot California women we put underneath him.

Hey man, you forget I'm in Beverly Hills!

[Coffee Warlord]

We piss on Beverly Hills here in Palm Springs.

[MikeVic]

We piss on Beverly Hills here in Palm Springs.

I don't know where that is in relation to Beverly Hills, or where Beverly Hills even is... but I say we deflect that piss and let it drain into the Pacific Ocean.

[chesapeake]

Randy was ecstatic about coming to the University of Falls Church as well. I think he's planning to drive his new Porsche to our campus shortly.

[MikeVic]

Looks like I'll just have to win him with some good old-fashioned legit recruiting then!

[vex]

Oh, it's all legit at OU with Will Brown at the helm.

[BishopMVP]

Hmmm.... Dexter is Highly Positive for me and Jang down at Somewhat Interested. Do certain recruits have higher baseline interests in teams than others? And do we ever find out their secondary preferences as the recruiting weeks go by?

[Mr. Wednesday]

I don't need a PF, but I'm almost tempted to start recruiting Dexter anyway. :D

[rjolley]

Hey, stay away from my stolen PF.

[vex]

I don't need a PF, but I'm almost tempted to start recruiting Dexter anyway. :D

Back up or your batracing season is over!:D

[Coffee Warlord]

Hmmm.... Dexter is Highly Positive for me and Jang down at Somewhat Interested. Do certain recruits have higher baseline interests in teams than others? And do we ever find out their secondary preferences as the recruiting weeks go by?

No and No.

That said, it's easier to hit certain interests than others. And thusly easier to heavily miss certain interestes.

[Coffee Warlord]

Friendly reminder of games tonight!

[Coffee Warlord]

Palm Springs moves to 2-0. Booyah!

[k0ruptr]

sweet ass, Honolulu moves to 2-0 as well.

[Mr. Wednesday]

First win for NU! Granted, it was against an ironman lineup...

[TargetPractice6]

My Nuggets move to 2-0 on the back of the nation's leading scorer, Jochen Baker.

[Tasan]

2-0!

I love my PG. Too bad he's a senior...

[korme]

Falck drops 35 in a dominant 90-66 Waffle House victory!

[wade moore]

Blah, I lose to my hated rival LS...

I wish I had watched the pbp last game, I didn't realize my guys were all exhausted when they get pulled.. but it seems like they're exhausted even if they play 5 minutes?

[Coffee Warlord]

Don't read too much into the fatigue blurb. I need to go back and tweak the verbage a little.

[lordscarlet]

Blah, I lose to my hated rival LS...

I wish I had watched the pbp last game, I didn't realize my guys were all exhausted when they get pulled.. but it seems like they're exhausted even if they play 5 minutes?

It wasn't in the PBP last time.

I have to check my endurance levels -- haven't watched the PBP yet. However, I'm very happy with this win. HRU's one-dimensional offense could not handle the Run-and-Shoot of our hometown Stars!

[wade moore]

I'm having a difficult time deciding what offense to use when my SG and my C are clearly my best players. I've used the Inside Post the last two games and my C does very well, but my SG gets very little opportunity..

Hrmm..

[rjolley]

I'm having a difficult time deciding what offense to use when my SG and my C are clearly my best players. I've used the Inside Post the last two games and my C does very well, but my SG gets very little opportunity..

Hrmm..Yeah, I'm having the same problem. I ran Low Post the first game and my guards didn't shoot much. Ran Perimeter this game and my big men didn't shoot much. Might try Screen sometime soon to see if that's a good mix.

[Coffee Warlord]

I'm having a difficult time deciding what offense to use when my SG and my C are clearly my best players. I've used the Inside Post the last two games and my C does very well, but my SG gets very little opportunity..

Hrmm..

I'm in the exact same boat as you. Thinking on ways to make those two offenses a little less one-dimensional.

[Eaglesfan27]

Same problem here. I'm running the low post since my PF and C are my best players, but I also have a good SF. My PF and C are taking 80% or more of the shots between them and my guards are hardly shooting. Oh yeah, we lost to S.U.C.K :(

[wade moore]

I'm in the exact same boat as you. Thinking on ways to make those two offenses a little less one-dimensional.

This would be a total shift in what you're doing, but..

Could there be maybe a setting where you set your positions in order of preference for the offense to go through or something?

Idano, thinking outloud.

[Coffee Warlord]

This would be a total shift in what you're doing, but..

Could there be maybe a setting where you set your positions in order of preference for the offense to go through or something?

Idano, thinking outloud.

You know...that might actually work better than you'd think. That's quite close to how the engine translates who gets the ball in the first place.

[lordscarlet]

The run and shoot appears to give looks to everyone but the center...

[Anthony]

or maybe you can make it so that if you have Low Post, your C/PF are the ones who get the ball first. if nothing is there your PG or whomever else then will look for their shot. vice versa for Perimeter, where your guards will look to shoot first, if nothing's there or if they're double teamed they dump it into the post.

[Coffee Warlord]

The problem really lies in just how much focus the "target" players are given in each offense. As it stands, it's just really, really likely that the key players will get the ball, that the other guys aren't getting enough looks. The math is really preventing things.

[rjolley]

or maybe you can make it so that if you have Low Post, your C/PF are the ones who get the ball first. if nothing is there your PG or whomever else then will look for their shot. vice versa for Perimeter, where your guards will look to shoot first, if nothing's there or if they're double teamed they dump it into the post.This is how I thought the offenses would work, at least the Low Post offense.

At least, it's how it works in real life.

[Coffee Warlord]

It's supposed to work like that. Obviously not as well as I'd like.

So, I can go about tweaking this 1 of 2 ways, and I'd like to gauge opinions.

1) Simply mess with the percentages in the code. I'm figuring with some tweaks to the numbers, this issue could be improved.

2) Add a new item to the lineups page that allows you to specify the percentage you want to focus on each position in the lineup. The offensive schemes would still be there, but they'd be less of an influence on who the offenses are passing the ball to and more of an influence on who should be taking shots.

[rjolley]

Does option 2 mean that if I run Low Post with the percentages leaning towards the guards, the bigs will shoot the most, but the guards will shoot more than once or twice?

[vex]

Sweet, my SG can go all Kobe on everyone.

I say try the code first, but it doesn't matter to me.

[MikeVic]

I don't want to mess around with more input though... I like keeping things simple. :(

[MikeVic]

Of course the California UofM lost again, but we'll keep it exciting with the run-and-shoot!

[Anthony]

option 2 is simple. we're not talking FOF2K7 screens here. if you could swing that it'd be awesome. but if you do option 2 does that mean if i set my SG to get the most percentage, then my crappy bench SG will also take as many shots? cuz if so, then maybe option 1 is best.

[ntndeacon]

The Fighting Creeks won handily to move to 2-0

[Coffee Warlord]

Some early tests on the Low Post offense are showing better results after some number tweaks.

[Coffee Warlord]

Okay, I made several changes to the percentages of both the Low Post and the Perimeter offenses. Spot checking some of the others, they appear to be working pretty closely to what I had intended (I reserve the right to pretend I never said that line).

In simplest terms, the players in the post on the low post offense are more apt to kick the ball back out for an open shot, and the guards in a perimeter offense are more likely to drop one inside if they don't have a shot.

A few sims generated good numbers for both offenses, and got the non-focus players much more involved.

[wade moore]

I think this is a good step. My suggestion may potentially open up for too much skewing or complications.. idano.. Either way, I think if you can tweak the existing ones that may be fine.

[vex]

Ok, this might not be very fun coding, but how about an actual play-by-play, where you click "next play" and it gives you a line by line read out. Or a staggered play-by-play, so every 3 seconds it shows another line of the game.

[Coffee Warlord]

I think this is a good step. My suggestion may potentially open up for too much skewing or complications.. idano.. Either way, I think if you can tweak the existing ones that may be fine.

Yeah, the more I thought on that, the less I liked it, though I'd love to be able to do a "key on" switch per player in the future.

[TargetPractice6]

Maybe you could do it FBCB-like and allow teams to pick up to three key players for the offense to focus on.

[path12]

The Aurora Borealises have joined the Dark Jedi Conference. My point guard is 5'3" and 213 pounds. I do not have high hopes.

[Coffee Warlord]

Don't worry, you're playing one of my coworkers. Easy win. :)

[Coffee Warlord]

Heh.

Well, enjoy. Ya'll just got double the training this week, as I fucked up and accidentally ran it again while I was making a change.

[wade moore]

Nice :)

[Anthony]

why did you do this to the Violators? do you understand THE FUCKING BEAST YOU JUST UNLEASHED?

piss. doom. fury. loud noises. this is what will get dropped on the court. double the training??? unstoppable.

[lordscarlet]

except that a bunch of my players' readiness has dropped to useless.. How do you increase those levels?

[MikeVic]

except that a bunch of my players' readiness has dropped to useless.. How do you increase those levels?

Not having them train... so yeah, I noticed a bunch of my guys weren't useless this morning but now they are. It's ok for me though, since my team isn't great anyway.

[lordscarlet]

Not having them train... so yeah, I noticed a bunch of my guys weren't useless this morning but now they are. It's ok for me though, since my team isn't great anyway.

That's what I thought -- and that's what I was figuring I would have to do in the next training session. ugh.

My team is great, so this is trouble. ;)

[TargetPractice6]

I think it's a product of two of three training updates not including any games. Most of my guys dropped in gameday status in week 1, but almost everyone bounced back last night only to be mostly negated today.

[Tasan]

ooo lookout! My team is practically all ready for primetime, since I was giving about half the team the week off. Those boys should be ready to kill someone now!

[BishopMVP]

Is the clock an hour slower than it should be? I thought the games should be running by now.

[Eaglesfan27]

Yeah, it is running an hour slow for me as well.

[BishopMVP]

Games running now. Up 19-12 early, new Low Post offense working well so far.

[Mr. Snappy]

Another blowout win for my #4 AMI Gilded Howitzers. The Yellowstone Catamounts lost by seven touchdowns.

[MikeVic]

Whoo!! Win #1!!

[Coffee Warlord]

Ah. I never patched this server for the daylight savings switch. That'd explain that.

[Eaglesfan27]

A tough loss for us. We dominated in the 1st half, but we faded down the stretch. I guess it is time to stop trying to play my star PF and C for a full 40 minutes a game ;)

[Coffee Warlord]

Palm Springs came up huge in an 87-58 victory.

3-0. Rock. On.

[Tasan]

Ugh, disappointing loss tonight to Clemson. Prolly had something to do with my PF out due to grades. Thanks CW for that double training! ;- )

[Groundhog]

Just signed up... Northwestern State Demons.

[wade moore]

A good win for the Scholars to move to 2-1. My Senior C is dominating and leading the conference in scoring, but it is clear that we slip pretty big when he's not on the court.

[CU Tiger]

FINALLY A "W"....

ok I gotta actually spend some time on this
as I am not sure whats happening

[lordscarlet]

CRAP

I thought rankings were sun and the next game mon. :(

[rjolley]

Dropped to 1-2 after a disappointing loss. Not sure what to do with this team. The defense is consistent, but the offense either goes off for 88 or can't find the bottom of the basket.

[vex]

This recruit was ecstatic about our school from the moment we spoke. He is very interested, and we have a very good chance for him to accept our scholarship offer next week.

[MikeVic]

Dropped to 1-2 after a disappointing loss. Not sure what to do with this team. The defense is consistent, but the offense either goes off for 88 or can't find the bottom of the basket.

Hah, you just faced a very good team! Don't worry about it.

[MikeVic]

This recruit was ecstatic about our school from the moment we spoke. He is very interested, and we have a very good chance for him to accept our scholarship offer next week.

Oh fuck you.

[rjolley]

This recruit was ecstatic about our school from the moment we spoke. He is very interested, and we have a very good chance for him to accept our scholarship offer next week.This recruit said the same thing to me.

Tease.

[Coffee Warlord]

Current Opinion: favorable

He likes us. He really really likes us.

[vex]

Bullshit.

[lordscarlet]

I wonder how much the double run of training to drop my guys to useless and unprepared effected me.. :(

[lordscarlet]

Dola: "crap" yet again. Recruiting ran this morning?! I need to get on the ball. I still haven't set up but one recruit.

[MikeVic]

Dola: "crap" yet again. Recruiting ran this morning?! I need to get on the ball. I still haven't set up but one recruit.

Was it Randy Dexter...

[Coffee Warlord]

He's mine, dammit! MINE!

[vex]

Randy Dexter is destined to be the Jimmy Clausen of TBB.

[rjolley]

lordscarlet, that's perfect strategy. Recruit one player lightly and throw the season so that you're destined to get the #1 pick.

Brilliant!

[Mr. Wednesday]

Hmm. No movement from the guy who is "very interested" from last week. A distinct lack of interest from the new top targets, which is rather disappointing.

[lordscarlet]

Was it Randy Dexter...

No. :)

lordscarlet, that's perfect strategy. Recruit one player lightly and throw the season so that you're destined to get the #1 pick.

Brilliant!

Shhh... people might catch on!

[Coffee Warlord]

People are gonna start thinking I'm cheating if I keep winning and get Randy, I think. :)

[vex]

Yeah, you'd better just remove him from your list to avoid that. Well, you and everyone else.

[illinifan999]

I don't see what the big deal about this Randy Dexter guy..he's only got potentially decent speed. ;)

[Coffee Warlord]

Yeah, you'd better just remove him from your list to avoid that. Well, you and everyone else.

Yeah, prolly a good idea.

...but nah.

[wade moore]

I'm still pretty worried that I'm not targetting any superstars, but we'll see how it works out...

[BishopMVP]

GDI taking on #3 KCKU Analrapists tonight... contrast of styles as KCKU is perimeter-based and I rely on my post players.

And Randy Dexter said something about being "Worshipful", and "is only leading on the other teams to get them to waste their time" or something. I didn't really read too closely before I deleted it. Guess I should offer him a scholarship.

[korme]

When do games start??

[korme]

Nevermind

[MikeVic]

I don't see what the big deal about this Randy Dexter guy..he's only got potentially decent speed. ;)

I agree. We should just all drop him.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I agree. We should just all drop him.
And by "we", you mean "you" (as in, everybody who's not you), right? :D

[MikeVic]

And by "we", you mean "you" (as in, everybody who's not you), right? :D

My wording is subject to interpretation!

[MikeVic]

So yeah, we lost a close OT game... check out these two beauties:

00:00 SF Friedrich Doyle takes the ball for U of M.
00:00 SF Friedrich Doyle passes off to PG Klaus Cash, guarded by PG Marcus Masuda of Piedmont.
00:00 PG Klaus Cash finds PF Adam Taegert open, with C Lou Schied of Piedmont rushing to guard.
00:00 PF Adam Taegert of U of M puts up a two pointer and misses, but draws the foul.
00:00 Adam Taegert made the free throw. (63 - 63)
00:00 Adam Taegert missed the free throw.
00:00 SF Rob Keegan of Piedmont grabs the rebound.

(OT) 00:00 PG Klaus Cash takes the ball for U of M.
(OT) 00:00 PG Klaus Cash sets up the offense, guarded by SF Rob Keegan of Piedmont.
(OT) 00:00 PG Klaus Cash of U of M puts up a two pointer and misses.
(OT) 00:00 SF Rob Keegan of Piedmont grabs the rebound.


I'm guessing my PF and PG don't have a high clutch rating.

[korme]

We eek out a 69-66 win over GoldenEagle's now 0-4, non-lineup setting squad.


Though we were lucky because there is no late game strategy. For instance, his team was down 3 with 15 seconds left and shot and made a 2, which I guess is ok but then let my guys essentially run out the clock and finish with a bucket.

[Eaglesfan27]

A nice blowout win for our team today. Good way to rebound from 2 disappointing losses.

[k0ruptr]

sweeet. Honolulu is UNDEFEATED . 4-0 word.

[wade moore]

The changes that CW made to the Low Post has really worked out for my roster. My C continues to dominate, but when the PF doesn't get a good shot the SG is taking the shots that he needs to. We've moved to 3-1 and have a C who is really dominating this Conference.

C Ramon Mann
Conference rankings:
PPG - 1st
Rebounds PG - 1st
Steals - 7th
Blocks - 6th
FG% - 1st
FT% - 1st

National Rankings:
PPG - 7th (t)
FT% - 5th (t)

[Coffee Warlord]

Palm Springs finally loses.

And lord did we lose.

But that's okay. 'Cause now Randy Dexter knows he can come in and help this team take it to the next level.

[Tasan]

3-1, I'm happy.

Can I make a request CW? Can you highlight GPA with like yellow if its around 2.0, and highlight in red when its below so it stands out? Its really easy to miss as it is right now.

[lordscarlet]

Still screwed by that double training. Most of my starters are useless or unprepared.

[TargetPractice6]

The Chronic defeats the Long Beach Angry seals with 29 assists on 34 field goals. Now 4-0 with three consecutive 20+ point blowouts.

[Coffee Warlord]

3-1, I'm happy.

Can I make a request CW? Can you highlight GPA with like yellow if its around 2.0, and highlight in red when its below so it stands out? Its really easy to miss as it is right now.

Sure, I'll throw that in when I get a few free minutes.

[mauchow]

4-0 and rollin'.

[illinifan999]

So yeah, we lost a close OT game... check out these two beauties:

00:00 SF Friedrich Doyle takes the ball for U of M.
00:00 SF Friedrich Doyle passes off to PG Klaus Cash, guarded by PG Marcus Masuda of Piedmont.
00:00 PG Klaus Cash finds PF Adam Taegert open, with C Lou Schied of Piedmont rushing to guard.
00:00 PF Adam Taegert of U of M puts up a two pointer and misses, but draws the foul.
00:00 Adam Taegert made the free throw. (63 - 63)
00:00 Adam Taegert missed the free throw.
00:00 SF Rob Keegan of Piedmont grabs the rebound.

(OT) 00:00 PG Klaus Cash takes the ball for U of M.
(OT) 00:00 PG Klaus Cash sets up the offense, guarded by SF Rob Keegan of Piedmont.
(OT) 00:00 PG Klaus Cash of U of M puts up a two pointer and misses.
(OT) 00:00 SF Rob Keegan of Piedmont grabs the rebound.


I'm guessing my PF and PG don't have a high clutch rating.

I figured that the double team defense would be a good counter to the run and shoot. Looks like I was just barely right. That being said, I'm disappointed with my guys as you ran a 3-2 defense and I ran the low post which I figured would open up my guys down low a lil more.

[lordscarlet]

Now that I have had an opportunity to give my guys the week off, look out Dean Houston Conference!

[Coffee Warlord]

Tweaked the game engine. Effectiveness of defenses has increased across the board.

And I put in that color-coded GPA thing.

[Tasan]

Tweaked the game engine. Effectiveness of defenses has increased across the board.

And I put in that color-coded GPA thing.

Should I see color coding, or just bold GPAs now? I'm just seeing bold, and I currently have 1 guy under 2.0. I checked in both IE 6.0 and Firefox, and both show just bold.

[Coffee Warlord]

...I musta missed a page.

[Tasan]

Doh wait, I see it now. Must have missed it. My guy isn't under 2.0 now, thats why I missed it.

[Coffee Warlord]

It should be orange at < 2.3, and red at < 2.0

[Tasan]

Yeah, I'm getting the orange as well. One dummy, even after study hall last training, is still borderline.

[illinifan999]

It should be orange at < 2.3, and red at < 2.0

I have a guy at 3.03 and 2.68 and 2.45 with orange. Just lettin ya know.

[Coffee Warlord]

Fixed.

[k0ruptr]

ahh Honolulu is heading for our first loss, down by 11 with 3 to play.

final is Brighton 67- Honolulu 61

[Yellow5]

Finally, a win for the Tacoma Aromas! Thanks Piedmont Glaciers!

[illinifan999]

Finally, a win for the Tacoma Aromas! Thanks Piedmont Glaciers!

I have no idea what the hell happened in that game. What's even more scary for me is that most of my players were energetic or higher. :eek:

[Anthony]

Dean Houston Violators are having a great season thus far.

[Coffee Warlord]

Dean Houston Violators are having a great season thus far.

And you didn't even look good in preseason.

[Mr. Wednesday]

It's Monday, which means recruiting... what's the latest news from "As the Dexter Turns"? :D

[TargetPractice6]

Fuck Dexter. Mike Jang is the real stud in this class.

[Coffee Warlord]

The little bitch is just toying with us now.

[vex]

A couple of 4 star recruits commited:

<TABLE class=body cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle>Committed Recruits

</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#eeeeee><TD>PF Andrew Garcia (http://tbb.officepimps.com/rookiedetail.php?RookieID=1118) out of Moffat, CO, has committed to Appleton Universtiy (http://tbb.officepimps.com/teamview.php?TeamID=274).</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD>PF Dan Granby (http://tbb.officepimps.com/rookiedetail.php?RookieID=1127) out of Inlet, NY, has committed to Hampton Roads University (http://tbb.officepimps.com/teamview.php?TeamID=270).</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[korme]

Those are two nice recruits.

[vex]

<TABLE class=body cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left width=100>11/05/07</TD><TD align=left width=250 bgColor=#cccccc>Recruitment of Andrew Garcia (http://tbb.officepimps.com/private.php?Show=8383)</TD><TD align=left width=100>System</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

This recruit seemed very interested in playing for us. We believe continued efforts at recruiting this player will definately pay off.


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There needs to be a note saying that he commited elsewhere.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Fuck Dexter. Mike Jang is the real stud in this class.
Now you're getting into my turf. :eek: :D

[Mr. Wednesday]

Fortunately, I'm not looking for PFs. :)

[Coffee Warlord]

There needs to be a note saying that he commited elsewhere.

I thought I put that in.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Heck of a game tonight between #25 UU and NU at Matthews. The Huskies took full advantage of the home court to run their record to 5 - 1, tied with Dean Houston at the top of the Trout Ten.

[Coffee Warlord]

We lose in a heartbreaker. Harvey, you're supposed to make those!

00:20 SG Harvey Fenneralmeida takes the ball for Palm Springs.
00:20 SG Harvey Fenneralmeida sets up the offense, guarded by SG Brant McCall of New York.
00:20 SG Harvey Fenneralmeida shoots and scores. Two for Palm Springs! (85 - 84)

00:11 PG Manny Cheever takes the ball for New York.
00:11 PG Manny Cheever passes off to C Alexander Riffkin, guarded by C Lothar Kelly of Palm Springs.
00:11 C Alexander Riffkin finds PG Manny Cheever open, with PG Kevin Abse of Palm Springs rushing to guard.
00:11 PG Manny Cheever of New York puts up a two pointer and misses.
00:11 SG Harvey Fenneralmeida of Palm Springs grabs the rebound.

00:00 SG Harvey Fenneralmeida takes the ball for Palm Springs.
00:00 SG Harvey Fenneralmeida sets up the offense, guarded by PF Jochen Devincenzi of New York.
00:00 SG Harvey Fenneralmeida of Palm Springs puts up a two pointer and misses.
00:00 PF Jochen Devincenzi of New York grabs the rebound.

[BishopMVP]

5-1. Maybe I can get ranked this week :)

[Mr. Wednesday]

Same here. I'll admit, I'm taking matters into my own hands a bit. :)

[Katon]

Heck of a game tonight between #25 UU and NU at Matthews. The Huskies took full advantage of the home court to run their record to 5 - 1, tied with Dean Houston at the top of the Trout Ten.

Home court advantage and my starting SG going 2-for-19 from the field. Looking forward to the rematch :)

Both of us managed to guess what kind of offence the other team would try to run, so there really weren't many easy points out there.

[k0ruptr]

Honolulu moves to 5-1

[Mr. Wednesday]

I don't think there was a lot of guesswork involved. It's pretty obvious where the strengths of both teams lie. :)

[Travis]

We lose in a heartbreaker. Harvey, you're supposed to make those!

00:20 SG Harvey Fenneralmeida takes the ball for Palm Springs.
00:20 SG Harvey Fenneralmeida sets up the offense, guarded by SG Brant McCall of New York.
00:20 SG Harvey Fenneralmeida shoots and scores. Two for Palm Springs! (85 - 84)

00:11 PG Manny Cheever takes the ball for New York.
00:11 PG Manny Cheever passes off to C Alexander Riffkin, guarded by C Lothar Kelly of Palm Springs.
00:11 C Alexander Riffkin finds PG Manny Cheever open, with PG Kevin Abse of Palm Springs rushing to guard.
00:11 PG Manny Cheever of New York puts up a two pointer and misses.
00:11 SG Harvey Fenneralmeida of Palm Springs grabs the rebound.

00:00 SG Harvey Fenneralmeida takes the ball for Palm Springs.
00:00 SG Harvey Fenneralmeida sets up the offense, guarded by PF Jochen Devincenzi of New York.
00:00 SG Harvey Fenneralmeida of Palm Springs puts up a two pointer and misses.
00:00 PF Jochen Devincenzi of New York grabs the rebound.

Helluva game man. Been needing a good performance the last few games and even though it came down to a miss on each side, fantastic finish

[Katon]

I don't think there was a lot of guesswork involved. It's pretty obvious where the strengths of both teams lie. :)

Oh yes. Not looking forward to next year when my most experienced guards will be sophomores.

[mauchow]

Oh, nice. Never even realized that we had a commitment.

Good lookin' kid, that's for sure!

[wade moore]

This is my first chance to watch live..

do i have to manually refresh this?

[wade moore]

Nevermind, I think I got it.. I just was a little early.

[Eaglesfan27]

Nope, it will manually refresh itself every 10 or so seconds.

[wade moore]

It's so not doing that for me..

Kind of frustrating.

Edit: it has refreshed on it's own once in 4 minutes.. so I did it myself one time in there.

[Eaglesfan27]

Wierd. I underestimated the time between refreshes. I'm watching now and it is about 20-30 seconds between refreshes, but it is definitely moving for me on its own.