Tiger Woods biggest mistake: getting married [Archive] - Page 2

Galaxy

12-01-2009, 09:12 PM

From Monday:

Tiger Woods Withdraws From Tournament He Hosts - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/01/sports/golf/01woods.html)

The stalemate continued Monday between the police and Woods, who has declined to speak with investigators from the Florida Highway Patrol. A spokeswoman for the patrol would not say whether the police were trying to obtain a search warrant for Woods’s medical records from Health Central Hospital in Ocoee, Fla., where Woods was treated after the accident. The records could shed light on how Woods was injured.

I thought you needed a warrant as well. However, this says their are some exceptations. I guess it depends on situation?

FAQ on Government Access to Medical Records | American Civil Liberties Union (http://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liberty/faq-government-access-medical-records)

However, it still doesn't mean that nothing happen. Just that the police had very little to go off on (not talking or seeing Tiger, no video, ect.).

Wanted to add:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,577809,00.html

"The Florida Highway Patrol says it is not seeking a search warrant to access medical records concerning Woods' accident. That contradicts what celebrity gossip Web site TMZ had reported earlier when it claimed authorities in Florida were trying to obtain a search warrant to enable them to seize medical records from the hospital that treated the golfer.

"We don't need a warrant to get records, that is incorrect," said Florida Highway Patrol Chief of Public Affairs Capt. Mark Welch."

Galaxy

12-02-2009, 01:02 AM

Jeez...

Scoop: Another woman to be named in Woods case - The Scoop- msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34229226/ns/entertainment-gossip/)

Galaxy

12-02-2009, 01:03 AM

Didn't realize you had it brass.

Chief Rum

12-02-2009, 02:00 AM

Okay, I admit it.

I, too, have had an affair with Tiger Woods.

Sorry, Elin.

Julio Riddols

12-02-2009, 02:52 AM

Show em you're a tiger.. Show em what you can do..

Karlifornia

12-02-2009, 04:06 AM

What does the trashpress have to say about these latest allegations?

spleen1015

12-02-2009, 07:48 AM

Heard the voicemail he left with one of these women this morning on Czaban's show. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that anyone would cheat on their wife these days, but I held Tiger in higher regards and I was wrong.

I guess I'm disappointed that my image of him was wrong.

Maple Leafs

12-02-2009, 07:54 AM

We need to just accept that there is a certain tipping point of fame where a guy can literally have any woman he wants, and that once a man reaches that point he will cheat on his wife.

gstelmack

12-02-2009, 07:56 AM

Got to here the "Wife of the Tiger" parody song this morning, 'twas pretty good...

Autumn

12-02-2009, 08:08 AM

We need to just accept that there is a certain tipping point of fame where a guy can literally have any woman he wants, and that once a man reaches that point he will cheat on his wife.

I wouldn't say it quite as absolutely as that, but I agree that the situation these guys find themselves in just exponentially increases the likelihood they're going to cheat. We can all say we'd continue to be as faithful as we are, and hopefully we would, but I think clearly some of us are wrong. (Though also it may be that the type of people who manage to be famous are also more disposed to having trouble being faithful). We all joke about our "freebies", or whatever, the celeb that supposedly if they showed up at the door you get a shot at -- well I suppose if you're Tiger Woods basically they do show up at your door. Ups the challenge, I suppose.

Subby

12-02-2009, 08:56 AM

Huge. Quickly. Bye.

Samdari

12-02-2009, 09:08 AM

Ronnie Dobbs2

12-02-2009, 09:10 AM

I heard it on the radio. If by smoking gun you mean pretty good proof that he's had an affair, then definitely. It's his voice, he identifies himself, and he asks the person he's called to remove her name from her voicemail message because his wife has been snooping in his phone and is getting suspicious.

Edit: Transcript

Hey, it's, uh, it's Tiger. I need you to do me a huge favour. Um, can you please, uh, take your name off your phone. My wife went through my phone. And, uh, may be calling you. If you can, please take your name off that and, um, and what do you call it just have it as a number on the voice mail, just have it as your telephone number. That's it, OK. You gotta do this for me. Huge. Quickly. All right. Bye.

Subby

12-02-2009, 09:27 AM

From IFuckedUpRealBadYo.TigerWoods.com (http://web.tigerwoods.com/news/article/200912027740572/news/):

I have let my family down and I regret those transgressions with all of my heart. I have not been true to my values and the behavior my family deserves. I am not without faults and I am far short of perfect. I am dealing with my behavior and personal failings behind closed doors with my family. Those feelings should be shared by us alone.

Although I am a well-known person and have made my career as a professional athlete, I have been dismayed to realize the full extent of what tabloid scrutiny really means. For the last week, my family and I have been hounded to expose intimate details of our personal lives. The stories in particular that physical violence played any role in the car accident were utterly false and malicious. Elin has always done more to support our family and shown more grace than anyone could possibly expect.

But no matter how intense curiosity about public figures can be, there is an important and deep principle at stake which is the right to some simple, human measure of privacy. I realize there are some who don't share my view on that. But for me, the virtue of privacy is one that must be protected in matters that are intimate and within one's own family. Personal sins should not require press releases and problems within a family shouldn't have to mean public confessions.

Whatever regrets I have about letting my family down have been shared with and felt by us alone. I have given this a lot of reflection and thought and I believe that there is a point at which I must stick to that principle even though it's difficult.

I will strive to be a better person and the husband and father that my family deserves. For all of those who have supported me over the years, I offer my profound apology.

DaddyTorgo

12-02-2009, 09:33 AM

hey...at least he manned up

Subby

12-02-2009, 09:34 AM

BFD. He only "manned up" because he got caught.

Honolulu_Blue

12-02-2009, 09:35 AM

BFD. He only "manned up" because he got caught.

Word up.

Kodos

12-02-2009, 09:38 AM

Leonard Little, already brought up.

And as I said above, I remember most of those incidents. You added Haynesworth to the list, and I don't like him, either, thanks to "the incident".

Of course I still cringe whenever I hear Christian Laettner's name, but everyone keeps trying to tell me Kentucky was wacking on him all game so he was okay with his chest stomp.

Wow. You hate everyone I hate. Nice work! :cool:

DaddyTorgo

12-02-2009, 09:39 AM

BFD. He only "manned up" because he got caught.

well that's true. but he could have done less i suppose.

don't get me wrong - i don't absolve him or anything.

DaddyTorgo

12-02-2009, 09:40 AM

oh - and none of the girls he seems to have cheated with are like even 1/100th as hot as his wife.

wtf tiger...if you're going to bang groupies at least pick the hot ones!

McSweeny

12-02-2009, 09:40 AM

good thing the trashpress didn't win!

Matthean

12-02-2009, 09:41 AM

BFD. He only "manned up" because he got caught.

This. When he previously talked about unfounded rumors it was in regards to physical violence. He only admitted to another issue after the press hounded him and got him to indirectly admit to his having an affair.

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Kodos

12-02-2009, 09:42 AM

Bill Romanowski in particular is one of my most hated players because of his general jerkiness. I openly rooted for career-ending injuries through most of his career.

JonInMiddleGA

12-02-2009, 09:42 AM

kingfc22

12-02-2009, 09:45 AM

Can we change the title of this thread to Tiger Woods Cheated on His Wife

Chubby

12-02-2009, 09:46 AM

good thing the trashpress didn't win!

Obviously the trashpress hacked his website and doctored that voicemail!

Matthean

12-02-2009, 09:50 AM

So, thee final score, Tiger 0, TMZ 1.

Fixed.

oh - and none of the girls he seems to have cheated with are like even 1/100th as hot as his wife.

+1,000. However, I know people who have cheated and the level of attraction isn't the only part of it. It's actually a rather low part of it. You are cheating because of far greater issues. The person you cheat with just happens to be there when you cave in.

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Passacaglia

12-02-2009, 09:55 AM

As I wrote my post, I thought, "DC he's probably just kidding."

I'm gonna go play NCAA 10 and take someone unrealistic to a bowl game. Tiger Woods 10 was too much of a wreck to keep bothering with.

You call yourself DC in your thoughts?

DaddyTorgo

12-02-2009, 09:56 AM

+1,000. However, I know people who have cheated and the level of attraction isn't the only part of it. It's actually a rather low part of it. You are cheating because of far greater issues. The person you cheat with just happens to be there when you cave in.



i'm sure that's the case - but you'd think he'd have far more attractive women around him all the time then these skankos

DaddyTorgo

12-02-2009, 09:57 AM

did we ever recognize DC for the double meaning of "Tiger Woods 10 was too much of a wreck to keep playing?"

That was a subtle and great piece of comedy

Passacaglia

12-02-2009, 10:06 AM

hey...at least he manned up

But even then, he spent most of his statement lecturing the media about privacy. He might as well have said, "I would have got away with it, too, if not for you meddlesome kids!"

Samdari

12-02-2009, 10:11 AM

oh - and none of the girls he seems to have cheated with are like even 1/100th as hot as his wife.

wtf tiger...if you're going to bang groupies at least pick the hot ones!

When you go to a restaurant, you have to order off the menu.

Maple Leafs

12-02-2009, 10:16 AM

I wouldn't say it quite as absolutely as that, but I agree that the situation these guys find themselves in just exponentially increases the likelihood they're going to cheat.
OK, maybe it's not absolute. But would you agree it increase the odds to the point where we really should act surprised when it happens? Like, even vaguely surprised?

Samdari

12-02-2009, 10:16 AM

I remember a few years ago, Michael Wilbon writing/saying that the NBA needed to stop looking for the next Michael Jordan, because he was already on the sports scene, he just happened to play golf.

I wonder if he had any idea how prophetic he truly was.

jbergey22

12-02-2009, 10:16 AM

But even then, he spent most of his statement lecturing the media about privacy. He might as well have said, "I would have got away with it, too, if not for you meddlesome kids!"

LOL. Very true!

molson

12-02-2009, 10:20 AM

But even then, he spent most of his statement lecturing the media about privacy. He might as well have said, "I would have got away with it, too, if not for you meddlesome kids!"

Maybe he got advice from Rick Pitino.

Matthean

12-02-2009, 10:29 AM

i'm sure that's the case - but you'd think he'd have far more attractive women around him all the time then these skankos

When your starting point is cheating, your judgment is obviously flawed from the start. Just because there might have been hotter when women doesn't mean they wanted to help him cheat on his wife. Skanky women are called that for a reason. They are the ones who are willing to help guys cheat on their wives.

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Honolulu_Blue

12-02-2009, 10:37 AM

oh - and none of the girls he seems to have cheated with are like even 1/100th as hot as his wife.

wtf tiger...if you're going to bang groupies at least pick the hot ones!

You get a +1

Wouldn't make it any more appropriate or whatever but at least we wouldn't have to see pix of his iffy choices.

I think we have to be careful here. Given the very low bar set by Steve Phillips' Tubby Temptress (and Letterman's girl), I think Tiger Woods did very, very well for himself on the "Official 2009 Women To Have An Affair With" rankings.

I think his choices are on par with, say, Elliot Spitzer's and he didn't even have to pay like $2,000 an hour or whatever.

Let's reel in a bit here and be a bit more realistic in all of this. Everyone's getting caught up in the hype.

boberot

12-02-2009, 10:46 AM

Methinks we need a thread dedicated to highly successful athletes who aren't lecherous assholes. It's disturbing that so many of the great ones are either dicks or apparently morally bankrupt.

Ronnie Dobbs2

12-02-2009, 10:48 AM

Who would you feel totally secure putting in that thread?

Kodos

12-02-2009, 10:52 AM

Peyton Manning.

SirFozzie

12-02-2009, 10:59 AM

Heh. I was wrong, geez. I have to admit I was thinking that if it was yellow journalism, that voice mail never would air, but yeah, that was bad.

boberot

12-02-2009, 11:00 AM

Who would you feel totally secure putting in that thread?

John Stockton

Hmmmm . . . .

Let's see . . . .

Ronnie Dobbs2

12-02-2009, 11:02 AM

All I could come up with were Tebow and Polamalu, but I'm not sure I would be shocked to find out that they can be assholes.

jbergey22

12-02-2009, 11:02 AM

Roger Federer

Flasch186

12-02-2009, 11:04 AM

so next time he tees off at a tourney does he get resoundingly booed?

Danny

12-02-2009, 11:04 AM

Peyton Manning.

first name that came to mind for me

Danny

12-02-2009, 11:05 AM

so next time he tees off at a tourney does he get resoundingly booed?

I guarantee he gets resoundingly cheered

jbergey22

12-02-2009, 11:05 AM

so next time he tees off at a tourney does he get resoundingly booed?

I wouldnt think so. He is much too popular for that and its not as if he killed someone. Im guessing a small minority only consider this a big deal in todays world.

DaddyTorgo

12-02-2009, 11:06 AM

i wouldn't feel comfortable putting Peyton in there. Who knows what dirty laundry he has?

maybe he likes to do football-groupies doggystyle on the bed in front of a mirror and stand behind them and practice all his line-of-scrimmage handsignals and adjustments as he's cornholing them?

Honolulu_Blue

12-02-2009, 11:08 AM

so next time he tees off at a tourney does he get resoundingly booed?

I guarantee he gets resoundingly cheered

This. The golf world will rally around him and cheer him on for the "strength" and "courage" he has shown through this difficult times.

Honolulu_Blue

12-02-2009, 11:08 AM

DaddyTorgo

12-02-2009, 11:12 AM

It sounds like you've put a little too much thought into this whole scenario.

not really all that much...and admit it...you laughed. shit...he might even wear his helmet!

Logan

12-02-2009, 11:42 AM

Heh. I was wrong, geez. I have to admit I was thinking that if it was yellow journalism, that voice mail never would air, but yeah, that was bad.

This is really all the explanation we get? Come on, you have to have some deep-seeded issue as to why the evil trashpress is so evil...or a freakishly obsessive love for Tiger.

SirFozzie

12-02-2009, 11:48 AM

This is really all the explanation we get? Come on, you have to have some deep-seeded issue as to why the evil trashpress is so evil...or a freakishly obsessive love for Tiger.

Nope. Just a deep-seated disdain for the celebrity-driven press. Tearing someone down (fairly, or unfairly) sells. The politics of destruction. And they hate someone who won't play their game. It makes celebrity a game where you feed others to the ravenous maw of the trashpress, so they don't turn their eyes on YOU instead.

Ronnie Dobbs2

12-02-2009, 11:51 AM

Meh, being famous comes with positives and negatives.

Honolulu_Blue

12-02-2009, 11:58 AM

Nope. Just a deep-seated disdain for the celebrity-driven press. Tearing someone down (fairly, or unfairly) sells. The politics of destruction. And they hate someone who won't play their game. It makes celebrity a game where you feed others to the ravenous maw of the trashpress, so they don't turn their eyes on YOU instead.

I agree. I find the whole thing distasteful. I don't feel particularly sorry for Tiger Woods. He made his bed here and, as a public figure, this kind of scrutiny goes with the territory. Always has, always will.

That said, it's not like the trashpress won anything or uncovered some great mystery or evil that those impacted didn't already know. It's pretty clear that, based on Tiger's Nov. 24th voicemail message to this woman, his wife already knew that he'd been cheating on her. All the hounding by the tabloids did is make it so everyone else now knows.

Maple Leafs

12-02-2009, 12:16 PM

Doug Christie, because he knows his wife would cut his balls off.

Chubby

12-02-2009, 12:17 PM

Nope. Just a deep-seated disdain for the celebrity-driven press. Tearing someone down (fairly, or unfairly) sells. The politics of destruction. And they hate someone who won't play their game. It makes celebrity a game where you feed others to the ravenous maw of the trashpress, so they don't turn their eyes on YOU instead.

You're a dope. Building someone up sells too, in this case however, Tiger brought himself down yet you want to try and make the reporters the bad guys for ya know, actually uncovering the truth.

Tiger uses the media to earn millions and millions of dollars in endorsements but doesn't want the other side of the coin, doesn't work that way.

If he were so virtuous then he should make sure all ads with his ads in it are pulled out of your favorite "trashpress".

gstelmack

12-02-2009, 12:24 PM

i wouldn't feel comfortable putting Peyton in there. Who knows what dirty laundry he has?

Given what his Dad and brother pulled at the draft, it wouldn't surprise me. He also used to blame his receivers and teammates all the time when a play went bad. He's EVIL!

:devil:

Galaxy

12-02-2009, 12:26 PM

You're a dope. Building someone up sells too, in this case however, Tiger brought himself down yet you want to try and make the reporters the bad guys for ya know, actually uncovering the truth.

Tiger uses the media to earn millions and millions of dollars in endorsements but doesn't want the other side of the coin, doesn't work that way.

If he were so virtuous then he should make sure all ads with his ads in it are pulled out of your favorite "trashpress".

Not to mention the shareholders in the companies he represents, the jobs that make his products, the fans that support the PGA with money, ect.

gstelmack

12-02-2009, 12:27 PM

Tiger uses the media to earn millions and millions of dollars in endorsements but doesn't want the other side of the coin, doesn't work that way.

I'm not big on the whole papparazzi / let's go hunt down women who had affairs with him just so they could get their face in front of the media and get on reality TV scene. However, when you wreck your car, including damage to a neighbor's property, and this requires the police to come out, and you refuse to talk to them about what happened, and you present explanations for all of this that make no sense, well, you're kind of digging your own grave.

So I'm with Chubby.

Galaxy

12-02-2009, 12:30 PM

I'm not big on the whole papparazzi / let's go hunt down women who had affairs with him just so they could get their face in front of the media and get on reality TV scene. However, when you wreck your car, including damage to a neighbor's property, and this requires the police to come out, and you refuse to talk to them about what happened, and you present explanations for all of this that make no sense, well, you're kind of digging your own grave.

So I'm with Chubby.

His most recent statement was still half-assed.

Autumn

12-02-2009, 12:31 PM

OK, maybe it's not absolute. But would you agree it increase the odds to the point where we really should act surprised when it happens? Like, even vaguely surprised?

No, exactly, I agree with that. Not surprised at all, but we should leave room for the few that still keep their integrity.

Subby

12-02-2009, 12:40 PM

BEHIND THE SCENES

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Subby

12-02-2009, 12:47 PM

(re: The allegations of Tiger's "mistress")

Not when you have trashpress creating the smoke out of nothing at all.
Somebdy needs an ice cream sundae and a hug!

Dr. Sak

12-02-2009, 12:50 PM

I don't think any of us should be really surprised...SirFozzie can be a bit of an exaggerator with his emotions and allegations.

Atocep

12-02-2009, 12:51 PM

I'm amazed this has hit 7 pages. Am I the only one that really doesn't care what Tiger does and realizes that Tiger's fans probably don't either?

Tiger woods is still the best golfer in the world. Tiger woods will still be cheered like no one else at events. Tiger woods will still make outrageous amounts of money from endorsements.

Honolulu_Blue

12-02-2009, 12:57 PM

I'm amazed this has hit 7 pages.

Hi! Welcome to the Internet! You must be new around here...

Atocep

12-02-2009, 12:58 PM

Hi! Welcome to the Internet! You must be new around here...

I like to pretend FOFC is Target and the rest of the internet is Walmart.

Fidatelo

12-02-2009, 01:09 PM

I'm amazed this has hit 7 pages. Am I the only one that really doesn't care what Tiger does and realizes that Tiger's fans probably don't either?

Dude, you have 7 posts in this thread yourself.

Atocep

12-02-2009, 01:11 PM

Dude, you have 7 posts in this thread yourself.

Yep, and none of them are really about the incident.

Fidatelo

12-02-2009, 01:13 PM

Yep, and none of them are really about the incident.

But you're still
a) obviously in here reading and interested in the various discussions; and
b) contributing to the number of posts that have pushed this to 7 pages.

Atocep

12-02-2009, 01:16 PM

But you're still
a) obviously in here reading and interested in the various discussions; and
b) contributing to the number of posts that have pushed this to 7 pages.

I'm busted now. Time to move on.

Young Drachma

12-02-2009, 01:51 PM

Heh. I was wrong, geez. I have to admit I was thinking that if it was yellow journalism, that voice mail never would air, but yeah, that was bad.

+1

Young Drachma

12-02-2009, 01:55 PM

Methinks we need a thread dedicated to highly successful athletes who aren't lecherous assholes. It's disturbing that so many of the great ones are either dicks or apparently morally bankrupt.

Meh. People in every industry do things that are unsavory. We just hear about the ones in sports more than others. Doesn't make it right. Just saying, it's not endemic to some gene that's only embedded in athletes to be jerks. I mean, Wall Street dudes are probably thinking "what? Only one girl? That's it?" Where are the others who he's banged?

His fan base is largely men who play a sport that has a minimum buy-in. Me thinks they're going to understand more than the average fan in any other sport.

Young Drachma

12-02-2009, 01:59 PM

BFD. He only "manned up" because he got caught.

Not really. He had to have known it was coming out last week. That Rachel girl was the smokescreen to buy them time for this bombshell.

DanGarion

12-02-2009, 02:00 PM

All I could come up with were Tebow and Polamalu, but I'm not sure I would be shocked to find out that they can be assholes.

Breaking news, people can sometimes be assholes. News at 11.

Young Drachma

12-02-2009, 02:01 PM

You call yourself DC in your thoughts?

No. But it was funny to type it.

did we ever recognize DC for the double meaning of "Tiger Woods 10 was too much of a wreck to keep playing?"

That was a subtle and great piece of comedy

Heh.

DanGarion

12-02-2009, 02:04 PM

Doug Christie, because he knows his wife would cut his balls off.

highly successful athletes

I don't think that means what you think it means...

Maple Leafs

12-02-2009, 02:05 PM

I don't think that means what you think it means...
Point conceded.

DanGarion

12-02-2009, 02:06 PM

Glengoyne

12-02-2009, 02:07 PM

Peyton Manning.

first name that came to mind for me

Tom Brady has WAY more fidelity.

DanGarion

12-02-2009, 02:08 PM

I like to pretend FOFC is Target and the rest of the internet is Walmart.

Sportsdigs had 20 pages 2 weeks ago.

Young Drachma

12-02-2009, 02:09 PM

Sportsdigs had 20 pages 2 weeks ago.

Sam's Club?

DanGarion

12-02-2009, 02:11 PM

I'd put Orel Hershiser on that list.

Ronnie Dobbs2

12-02-2009, 02:20 PM

Breaking news, people can sometimes be assholes. News at 11.

Welcome to the point.

DanGarion

12-02-2009, 02:22 PM

Welcome to the point.

Sorry I wasn't picking on you, I just wanted to make the point from your comment.

Young Drachma

12-02-2009, 02:25 PM

I wonder if Tiger would've paid her more than 25k to keep her mouth shut? I'm guessing she wanted the notoriety given her "reality tv fame." This will clearly make him tighten up the ranks if he's smart, though, because he's never had to face adversity like this and has skated for pretty much his whole career in the media.

He'll either have a crazy season next year or people will bring up the affair every time he has a bad week or month. In that way, he probably wishes he was Ray Lewis.

boberot

12-02-2009, 02:40 PM

Meh. People in every industry do things that are unsavory. We just hear about the ones in sports more than others. Doesn't make it right. Just saying, it's not endemic to some gene that's only embedded in athletes to be jerks. I mean, Wall Street dudes are probably thinking "what? Only one girl? That's it?" Where are the others who he's banged?

His fan base is largely men who play a sport that has a minimum buy-in. Me thinks they're going to understand more than the average fan in any other sport.

I would never suggest that athletes have any sort of exclusivity in the lechery / douchebaggery department. I just found myself reflecting on all the highly successful athletes whose legend seems to be tarnished by something illegal or reprehensible.

Then I tried to think of how many top-flight athletes I [or FOFC] could name who were seemingly slam-dunk really good guys. I immediately arrived at John Stockton and then didn't have anybody else immediately jump to mind.

I wasn't trying to make any other generalizations.

molson

12-02-2009, 02:42 PM

He'll either have a crazy season next year or people will bring up the affair every time he has a bad week or month.

Hell, even before this, people brought up his marriage every time he had a bad week or month. His career slipped a little and the talk was that married life took away his drive to compete or something.

I'm sure at least 90% of married professional athletes have cheated. It's kind of interesting seeing him all rattled, but I'm not going to think any differently about him.

Danny

12-02-2009, 02:47 PM

I'm sure at least 90% of married professional athletes have cheated. It's kind of interesting seeing him all rattled, but I'm not going to think any differently about him.

Wow, you can probably make some money off of all those secret cams you have that are monitoring all those married athletes sexual encounters.

molson

12-02-2009, 02:49 PM

Wow, you can probably make some money off of all those secret cams you have that are monitoring all those married athletes sexual encounters.

I love this schtick on message boards. It seems to be on an upswing here.

I'll expect you to fully document and prove, beyond any possible doubts, all of your thoughts and ideas here in the future.

As for me, I disagree that that burden is required on jerkoff message boards that have so meaning to anything, so I'll keep stating opinions.

Galaxy

12-02-2009, 03:03 PM

Spirit Airlines is cashing in already. :)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/02/spirit-airlines-tiger-woo_n_377222.html

DaddyTorgo

12-02-2009, 03:06 PM

Spirit Airlines is cashing in already. :)

Spirit Airlines' Tiger Woods Ad (PHOTOS) (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/02/spirit-airlines-tiger-woo_n_377222.html)

awesome

RainMaker

12-02-2009, 03:14 PM

I think we have to be careful here. Given the very low bar set by Steve Phillips' Tubby Temptress (and Letterman's girl), I think Tiger Woods did very, very well for himself on the "Official 2009 Women To Have An Affair With" rankings.

Phillips isn't in the same league as Tiger. You need to rate Tiger on the same scale as Derek Jeter. Jeter's picks are much more impressive.

RedKingGold

12-02-2009, 03:15 PM

BFD. He only "manned up" because he got caught.

Does we really expect people to "man-up" or "own-up" if they don't get caught first?

Unless your name is Aristotle or one of those other greek-bread guys, I'm willing to cut the guy some slack.

Alright, I'm out. Back to the presstrash.

Ronnie Dobbs2

12-02-2009, 03:16 PM

Yeah, but Jeter isn't married. It probably takes a different kind of girl to be willing to be road beef.

Galaxy

12-02-2009, 03:35 PM

awesome

What makes it great that it's an airline using it.

TMZ posted these pics of him in Vegas club. Tiger Woods Cozies Up in Vegas | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/02/tiger-woods-cozies-up-in-vegas-chat/)

I love the Nike gear in the Vegas nightclub.

Honolulu_Blue

12-02-2009, 03:37 PM

Phillips isn't in the same league as Tiger. You need to rate Tiger on the same scale as Derek Jeter. Jeter's picks are much more impressive.

Yeah, but Jeter isn't married. It probably takes a different kind of girl to be willing to be road beef.

What he said. This isn't the "Women Who Date Athletes" rankings, but "Women To Have An Affair With" rankings. That's two totally different class of women.

Though, for the record, hockey players, on average, by FAR, date hotter women than any other type of athlete, especially when you add the fact that they are hockey players and, therefore, a lot less famous than NFL, NBA, or MLB stars.

Galaxy

12-02-2009, 03:39 PM

Though, for the record, hockey players, on average, by FAR, date hotter women than any other type of athlete, especially when you add the fact that they are hockey players and, therefore, a lot less famous than NFL, NBA, or MLB stars.

They even date sloppy seconds.

RomaGoth

12-02-2009, 03:43 PM

They even date sloppy seconds.

All of them except Sean Avery.

Honolulu_Blue

12-02-2009, 03:44 PM

They even date sloppy seconds.

And even their sloppy seconds are far better than most athlete's uh... tidy firsts?

Izulde

12-02-2009, 04:20 PM

You get a +1

+2 or 3 or whatever.

I mean, if you're Tiger and you're gonna sleep around, don't go slumming around the Ugly Tree or the Meh Bush. You got to go straight to Hot Chick Island or you're an epic fail as a player.

Young Drachma

12-02-2009, 05:02 PM

Cheating has nothing to do with pretty. In fact, if she's ugly all the better. That way, no one actually thinks you'd waste your time with that person.

Cheating isn't about anything other than sex for a guy like this, perhaps the thrill of knowing he had someone reliable on the side that would do his bidding in such a manner. It's not an accident that both Kobe and Tiger caught redhanded in almost stupid ways. Where the average person looks and goes "weren't you smarter? We thought you were one of the 'good ones?"

But that's where people get confused. What separates those guys from the pros (the Jordan, Shaq, etc.) is the Tigers and Kobes were 1) stars relatively young. Tiger obviously went to college, but...who knows how much he dallied around on campus, just given his notoriety, the fact his dad was still alive and so forth.

I think calling this an 'affair' is probably a gross overstatement. He was sleeping with this chick. Plain, simple and end of sentence. Some may say "well, that's just semantics" but it's not. Affair implies, "there is a woman on the side someone is having a relationship with." That's clearly not what this was. Dude was fly to Vegas, bang her and go about his business. He probably thought he was doing himself a favor by having one reliable chick who understood "the arrangement" and kept it quiet. And clearly she did, until the ho realized the party was over and someone else dangled money in her face. More money, obviously, than Tiger had ever forked over given he didn't want to feel like he was prostituting.

Dudes who've never cheated and who haven't slept with pretty girls might not understand why pretty has nothing to do with it. Or how someone with the ability to get "anyone" they want, could just settle for whoever is available. But like someone said earlier in this thread, it's all about whoever is there at the time he decides to get it on. It's about timing, really. The last thing a dude like that wants is a chick that wants to fall in love with him. He wants the chick who has just a bit more integrity not to get paid to screw, but not enough that she'll expect to be an honest woman at some point. He wants an understanding. And Tiger thought he had one, but...he clearly picked the wrong chick.

When you've gone through life bending situations and circumstances to your will, something like this could throw you off your rocker because you've always come to expect that the rancor will dissipate and you can go back to doing things your way. But he's clearly going to have to learn that, stuff will never be the same and he'll have to turn this around into something that'll allow him to fix some of the dings on the once shiny apple.

I guess we'll see what happens. Everyone is sitting around waiting for a divorce, but so far, it seems to me that everything that's happened to this point seems pedestrian for a matter of this kind. Guy cheats, wife found out and they're still dealing with the blowback from it. He gets tipped off the media is going to find out, she flips, knowing that's going to really impact the brand -- not to mention, embarrass the shit out of them -- and they have their spat.

What people have been saying about the airtight nature of the Tiger brand seems accurate, but it's not really a creation, as much as it's just the way he operates. I think if he decided to flip this -- become a person with a soul and not so much of an automaton -- then I think he'll be able to turn the tide.

The way to keep the media on your side is to stay likable. I mean, look at the last two Presidents. Their adoring fan bases were in love with them for their ability to make them laugh, swoon or relate to them. It had nothing to do with substance.

On the other hand, Tiger is in the top of his class. So if he keeps wowing us on the golf course (And my inclination is that, if there was ever a time to win a Grand Slam, it would be this coming year...) and people won't just forget about it, they'll use it as part of the "Tiger Story" and we'll see columns about how he "could've wilted under the pressure of a potentially collapsing marriage, etc., but used it as fuel to slay every beast. Turning his fellow golfers into the personification of those hordes who chased after him."

I think just like Kobe looked up to and followed behind what he watched Shaq do, Tiger probably took some notes from hanging out with MJ in those early years. And clearly, it served neither of them very well because they were doing something out of character for both and got caught redhanded.

I don't think, in retrospect, the 24-hour news cycle or the crazy tabloids are really to blame. It's how these scandals emerged.

I don't think the wife will leave unless he keeps the cheating up. Not only because I suspect his prenup is a lot better than his handling of this story (Two kids notwithstanding..) but also, you don't marry Tiger Woods if you want to be some sort of starlet, because you're going to be hidden behind view by and large.

But I guess we'll see how it plays out.

Glengoyne

12-02-2009, 05:05 PM

Still no pics?

I got impatient after three media links, and figured the 'temptress' would be getting traffic here.

Young Drachma

12-02-2009, 05:07 PM

Speak of the devil:

Woods, wife in intense marriage counseling :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Bill Zwecker (http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/zwecker/1916410,zwecker-tiger-woods-marriage-elin-prenup-120209.article)

The continuing revelations of alleged Tiger Woods infidelities has placed the golfing megastar's management team in what one insider called "panic mode" early Wednesday morning.

Despite the release of photographs of Woods looking a bit too friendly with a woman in a Las Vegas nightclub, and a recording — allegedly of a phone call Woods made to former "Tool Academy" reality show alum Jaimee Grubbs — the Woods source insists "Tiger still believes stonewalling the press on this is the best approach."
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Woods did, however, issue a statement Wednesday morning on his Web site, saying “I haven't been true to my values” and “I have let my family down and I regret those transgressions with all of my heart," he said.

• Also, don't look for Woods' wife, Elin, to be moving out of the couple's Windermere, FL., mansion anytime soon. The links legend's spouse is reportedly being paid a hefty seven-figure amount — immediately transfered into an account she alone controls — to stick with her husband.

On top of that, my source indicated Elin Nordegren Woods, the mother of Tiger's two children, has demanded — and is getting — a total rewrite on the couple's prenuptial agreement making the incentives for her to remain Mrs. Tiger Woods even more enticing.

At this point, the couple needed to remain married for 10 years in order for Woods' wife to collect a splitsville settlement of $20 million. I'm being told that time frame has been shortened — and the dollar amount increased "substantially."

• Perhaps most important of all, the Woodses have already begun intense marriage counseling — at their home — with a counselor who has been conducting sessions several times daily.

SackAttack

12-02-2009, 05:28 PM

I don't get why Tiger would agree to rewrite the prenup.

If it was heavily in his favor in the first place as a disincentive to divorce, why would he loosen the terms as a disincentive to divorce?

Honolulu_Blue

12-02-2009, 05:34 PM

I think calling this an 'affair' is probably a gross overstatement. He was sleeping with this chick. Plain, simple and end of sentence. Some may say "well, that's just semantics" but it's not. Affair implies, "there is a woman on the side someone is having a relationship with." That's clearly not what this was. Dude was fly to Vegas, bang her and go about his business. He probably thought he was doing himself a favor by having one reliable chick who understood "the arrangement" and kept it quiet. And clearly she did, until the ho realized the party was over and someone else dangled money in her face. More money, obviously, than Tiger had ever forked over given he didn't want to feel like he was prostituting.

Are you kidding me with this? There's evidence out there that he slept with at least three other women. The one, Jamie whatever, had THREE HUNDRED text messages from the guy. THREE HUNDRED.

It totally is semantics. He was cheating on his wife and having an affair with this woman, among others. Just because they lived in different states and that she kept things quiet until the shit hit the fan, doesn't make it any less of an affair.

I think you could make an argument that a random, one night, heat of the moment type hook-up is not an affair. It's cheating on your wife, but no affair. But once you cross the threshold from heat of the moment/drunken hook-up, to hundreds of text messages, multiple hook-ups, flying across the country for said hook-ups, etc. you've firmly crossed into Affair Country. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Dude had an affair. Multiple affairs. He was supposed to travel with that first chick to Dubai or Australia or someting for crissakes!

I know you like the guy, but come on.

Honolulu_Blue

12-02-2009, 05:35 PM

I don't get why Tiger would agree to rewrite the prenup.

If it was heavily in his favor in the first place as a disincentive to divorce, why would he loosen the terms as a disincentive to divorce?

If he does, it's because he's scrambling and trying to do whatever he can to save his marriage.

sovereignstar

12-02-2009, 05:36 PM

I just want to say it once. Just once.

trashpress

Rizon

12-02-2009, 05:36 PM

I guess he's lucky he didn't get McNaired.

Groundhog

12-02-2009, 05:37 PM

Honolulu_Blue

12-02-2009, 05:38 PM

I just want to say it once. Just once.

trashpress

What did you say?

I can't heeeeeear yooooouuuu.....

Matthean

12-02-2009, 05:38 PM

If he does, it's because he's scrambling and trying to do whatever he can to save his marriage.

and save his image.

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Dr. Sak

12-02-2009, 05:39 PM

I guess he's lucky he didn't get McNaired.

or John Bobbitt'ed

sooner333

12-02-2009, 05:40 PM

To keep his wife?

But if he loosens the conditions, then she is getting more if she does, in fact, divorce him. Maybe he's hoping that it will blow over by the new deadline and by offering more, he can save his marriage now (where she might say fuck it and decide the money's not worth it as it stands now). But it doesn't make sense to me on the surface either.

SackAttack

12-02-2009, 05:44 PM

If he does, it's because he's scrambling and trying to do whatever he can to save his marriage.

And if she's asking for more money and less time required to stay in the marriage to achieve that money, what does that signal about his chances of preserving the marriage in the first place? If that's a focus to her...it doesn't bode well.

Now, if she wanted it rewritten to say that future episodes of infidelity rend the entire document null and void, that's another matter, IMO.

But as it stands, it almost feels as though she's bargaining with the warden for time off the "sentence" under the circumstances.

To keep his wife?

See above.

But if he loosens the conditions, then she is getting more if she does, in fact, divorce him. Maybe he's hoping that it will blow over by the new deadline and by offering more, he can save his marriage now (where she might say fuck it and decide the money's not worth it as it stands now). But it doesn't make sense to me on the surface either.

That could be. Maybe by offering concessions now, he thinks he can pacify her somewhat and by the time the new deadline rolls around, divorce isn't in her thought process any longer.

But I just look at it as caving on that front reinforces divorce as a viable option for her.

Maybe I'm just a cynical bastard that way, I dunno.

Logan

12-02-2009, 05:45 PM

Anyone hear Jesper Parnevik's comments? Ouch.

"I would be especially sad about it since I'm kind of -- I really feel sorry for Elin -- since me and my wife were at fault for hooking her up with him," Parnevik said. "We probably thought he was a better guy than he is. I would probably need to apologize to her and hope she uses a driver next time instead of the 3-iron."

"It's a private thing of course," he said. "But when you are the guy he is, the world's best athlete, you should think more before you do stuff. . . And maybe not just do it, like Nike says."

SackAttack

12-02-2009, 05:48 PM

Dolathought -

Maybe he accepts divorce as a foregone conclusion, and it isn't so much a matter of trying to save his marriage as of trying to keep her from bolting right *now* so that he can do some image repair, etc.

By the time she does eventually divorce him, in three years or whatever, it's an unfortunate thing, but the events leading up to it are mostly old news and don't compound his problems quite so severely.

It's a bribe to stick it out "just a little while longer," not a bribe to save the marriage.

Dr. Sak

12-02-2009, 05:51 PM

.Jesper Parnevik, the Swedish golfer who along with his wife, Mia, introduced Elin Nordegren to Tiger Woods, is none too pleased with the world's No. 1 golfer.

Parnevik, 44, who is playing at the PGA Tour's Qualifying Tournament in West Palm Beach, Fla., told the Golf Channel on Wednesday that "I really feel sorry for Elin," in light of reports that Woods has been unfaithful.

Woods issued an apology on his website Wednesday for "transgressions," in the wake of a report that he had a 31-month affair with a Los Angeles woman.

Nordegren, 29, began working for the Parneviks as a nanny in 2000. She was first introduced to Woods at the 2001 British Open and they were married in 2004.

"I would be especially sad about it since I'm kind of -- I really feel sorry for Elin -- since me and my wife were at fault for hooking her up with him," Parnevik said. "We probably thought he was a better guy than he is. I would probably need to apologize to her and hope she uses a driver next time instead of the 3-iron."

Rizon

12-02-2009, 05:55 PM

3rd degree burn right there, wow!

Young Drachma

12-02-2009, 06:12 PM

Are you kidding me with this? There's evidence out there that he slept with at least three other women. The one, Jamie whatever, had THREE HUNDRED text messages from the guy. THREE HUNDRED.

It totally is semantics. He was cheating on his wife and having an affair with this woman, among others. Just because they lived in different states and that she kept things quiet until the shit hit the fan, doesn't make it any less of an affair.

I think you could make an argument that a random, one night, heat of the moment type hook-up is not an affair. It's cheating on your wife, but no affair. But once you cross the threshold from heat of the moment/drunken hook-up, to hundreds of text messages, multiple hook-ups, flying across the country for said hook-ups, etc. you've firmly crossed into Affair Country. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Dude had an affair. Multiple affairs. He was supposed to travel with that first chick to Dubai or Australia or someting for crissakes!

I know you like the guy, but come on.

I could less who he screws as long as he still plays golf well. It's extremely disappointing and there's no two ways about that, as a fan, so it's not trying to defend him, because I don't know what happened. I was just musing.

I didn't read the texts or about taking women on trips to places...I guess there's no two ways about it, then. Pretty stupid on all counts, but then, we sorta knew that.

Young Drachma

12-02-2009, 06:15 PM

Ouch on Parnevik's comments, though. Damn. Clearly they weren't homeboys, heh.

Karlifornia

12-02-2009, 06:29 PM

It's crazy how much of a firestorm this has created. It's everywhere right now.

Logan

12-02-2009, 06:41 PM

.

I win for the inclusion of the "maybe not just do it, like Nike says" piece.

rowech

12-02-2009, 06:44 PM

Has anyone's "perfect" life (at least as presented) come crashing down this fast?

Chubby

12-02-2009, 06:47 PM

Suburban Rhythm

12-02-2009, 07:03 PM

Methinks we need a thread dedicated to highly successful athletes who aren't lecherous assholes. It's disturbing that so many of the great ones are either dicks or apparently morally bankrupt.

Who would you feel totally secure putting in that thread?

Only time Crosby has had someone else in his bed...

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/sidney-crosby-sleeps-with-the-stanley-cup.jpg

M GO BLUE!!!

12-02-2009, 07:36 PM

The OFFICIAL number of women that say Woods is a "Tiger":

http://www.gifandgif.eu/animated_gif/Numbers_and_Letters/Animated%20Gif%20Numbers_letters.gifhttp://www.gifandgif.eu/animated_gif/Numbers_and_Letters/Animated%20Gif%20Numbers_letters%20%281%29.gif

Wilt Chamberlain would be proud.

Dr. Sak

12-02-2009, 08:12 PM

Only time Crosby has had someone else in his bed...

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/sidney-crosby-sleeps-with-the-stanley-cup.jpg

Stop lying...living in Mario' house we know that Mario's wife's been in Crosby's bed....reading him bedtime stories.

Galaxy

12-02-2009, 08:31 PM

$20 million to be married for 10 years in the old pre-nup (not counting any child support)?

Another interesting article:
http://wcbstv.com/sports/tiger.woods.affair.2.1346199.html

stevew

12-02-2009, 09:34 PM

What kind of dumb ass does buisiness on his personal cell. TrackPhone in the golf bag for fuck's sake

JonInMiddleGA

12-02-2009, 11:25 PM

What's the difference between a car & a golf ball?
Tiger Woods can drive a golf ball 400 yards.

Why were the Woods' up at 230 am?
They'd just gone clubbing.

Tiger hit a fire hydrant and a tree.
Apparently he couldn't decide between an iron & a wood.

Karlifornia

12-03-2009, 01:49 AM

Glengoyne

12-03-2009, 02:04 AM

Damnit Karl!

I watched almost that whole video before I got it!!

Rizon

12-03-2009, 08:24 AM

lighthousekeeper

12-03-2009, 08:40 AM

lmfao

Logan

12-03-2009, 10:14 AM

What do Tiger Woods and baby seals have in common?
They're both clubbed by Norwegians.

Wow, this and the original "I guess this proves he really is part Asian" are standouts in my book.

path12

12-03-2009, 10:42 AM

I passed that joke to the Norweigian Ms.path and her response: "She's Swedish".

Those Norwegians can't take a friggin' joke.

Dr. Sak

12-03-2009, 10:45 AM

Change it to Scandinavian

DaddyTorgo

12-03-2009, 11:29 AM

I passed that joke to the Norweigian Ms.path and her response: "She's Swedish".

Those Norwegians can't take a friggin' joke.

hahahah

Mrs. Path is norwegian? doe she do a nice herring?

path12

12-03-2009, 12:01 PM

hahahah

Mrs. Path is norwegian? doe she do a nice herring?

Hates it, her dad was a fisherman in Alaska and she had to help cut the herring for bait in the summers. No lutefisk either, thank God.

DaddyTorgo

12-03-2009, 12:06 PM

Hates it, her dad was a fisherman in Alaska and she had to help cut the herring for bait in the summers. No lutefisk either, thank God.

haha. yeah seriously. that shit is nasty. don't they like prepare lutefisk with lye?

Maple Leafs

12-03-2009, 02:25 PM

Galaxy

12-03-2009, 02:36 PM

http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Tiger+Woods+Elin+Nordegren+Buckets+bucks+keep+unhappy+couple+together+while/2299125/story.html

Tiger Woods BRIBE? $1 Million Rachel Uchitel Payoff Offer Reported (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/03/tiger-woods-bribe-1-milli_n_378683.html)

jeff061

12-03-2009, 05:14 PM

A Shattered Nation Longs To Care About Stupid Bullshit Again | The Onion - America's Finest News Source (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/a_shattered_nation_longs_to_care)

Never forget!

sabotai

12-03-2009, 06:01 PM

Tiger Woods BRIBE? $1 Million Rachel Uchitel Payoff Offer Reported (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/03/tiger-woods-bribe-1-milli_n_378683.html)

I'll wait for a media source that is far more reputable than The Huffington Post before I believe that story. Like TMZ or The National Enquirer.

jbergey22

12-03-2009, 06:09 PM

I wonder how many millions Tiger will have to throw away to try and save a marriage that is very doubtful to last more than another year?

Logan

12-03-2009, 06:49 PM

I wonder how many millions Tiger will have to throw away to try and save a marriage that is very doubtful to last more than another year?

About the equivalent of when I tell my corner coffee guy to keep the 75 cents.

Galaxy

12-03-2009, 06:50 PM

I'll wait for a media source that is far more reputable than The Huffington Post before I believe that story. Like TMZ or The National Enquirer.

Trashpress? :eek:

Rizon

12-03-2009, 06:58 PM

Trashpress? :eek:

TRASHPRESS!!!! :funkychickendance:

RainMaker

12-03-2009, 07:11 PM

Logan

12-03-2009, 07:18 PM

That is the funniest video I've seen in almost 6 hours.

Galaxy

12-06-2009, 12:34 AM

Tiger Woods, the $8-an-hour diner waitress and the deal that kept their affair out of the news | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1233559/Tiger-Woods-8-hour-diner-waitress-deal-kept-affair-news.html)

sterlingice

12-06-2009, 12:51 AM

A Shattered Nation Longs To Care About Stupid Bullshit Again | The Onion - America's Finest News Source (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/a_shattered_nation_longs_to_care)

Never forget!

Aw. I hadn't read that before. It just helps put people caring about stupid crap and ones who reference terrorism and 9/11 in the same breath in perfect relief.

(And then I cry a little on the inside about how spot-on the story is)

SI

bulletsponge

12-06-2009, 10:30 AM

path12

12-06-2009, 10:59 AM

Tiger eats at Perkins?

Galaxy

12-06-2009, 11:18 AM

Tiger eats at Perkins?

Perkins should offer Tiger an endorsement deal. :D

JPhillips

12-06-2009, 11:19 AM

Perkins only pays their managers 8$ an hour?

Eaglesfan27

12-06-2009, 12:08 PM

Perkins only pays their managers 8$ an hour?

Have you ever been to a Perkins? They are pretty crappy. I'm more surprised that Tiger eats there.

Tekneek

12-06-2009, 01:29 PM

Have you ever been to a Perkins? They are pretty crappy. I'm more surprised that Tiger eats there.

Apparently it is a good place to pick up ladies.

Young Drachma

12-06-2009, 01:33 PM

Tekneek

12-06-2009, 03:17 PM

That dude clearly has really bad taste in...well...I was going to say picking friends, but that's just the tip of the iceberg as it turns out with all of the average looking chicks they're dredging out of his bog.

Looks were probably not the primary factor. It is beginning to sound like he wanted to hook up with ladies that would put out and not make any demands. The kind he could call and hook up with anytime he wanted, but weren't going to beg him for a marriage or blackmail him (at least until the shit the fan over the past 10 days or so).

Galaxy

12-06-2009, 03:27 PM

Galaxy

12-06-2009, 03:28 PM

Perkins only pays their managers 8$ an hour?

And she is all of the above: waitress, manager, and Tiger's tail.

Young Drachma

12-06-2009, 03:29 PM

Looks were probably not the primary factor. It is beginning to sound like he wanted to hook up with ladies that would put out and not make any demands. The kind he could call and hook up with anytime he wanted, but weren't going to beg him for a marriage or blackmail him (at least until the shit the fan over the past 10 days or so).

No, I wasn't making a comment on the hoes. I understood his logic on picking dowdy chicks who thought wouldn't be golddiggers and that he's a naive buffoon.

I really was commenting on the dereliction by his friends. I mean, he didn't have one dude in his inner circle who was like "Tiger, bro...seriously man?" Not at the looks, just at his various rookie mistakes.

I mean, he's no rocket scientist and is clearly proven to be just a dumb jock, but...I'm just more aghast at how badly whipped his entire inner circle is.

bulletsponge

12-06-2009, 04:02 PM

i cant believe he was dumb enough to invite that Perkins chick into his house for a roll in the hay, thats rule #1 on the cheaters guide. i think its a womans legal right to shoot her husband if she finds another woman in her bed, or it should be

Tekneek

12-06-2009, 07:42 PM

I mean, he's no rocket scientist and is clearly proven to be just a dumb jock, but...I'm just more aghast at how badly whipped his entire inner circle is.

This seems to happen whenever somebody is vastly more wealthy than the others and gives them access to a lavish lifestyle they might not otherwise get to be part of. Few want to rock that boat and screw it up for everyone else.

I suspect Tiger's problem has less to do with being a dumb jock and more about some other psychological issue. Given his status, and the fact that he makes a whole lot of his money by maintaining his reputation, this kind of behavior is self destructive.

SunDevil

12-06-2009, 07:45 PM

We seriously need to change the title of this thread...

stevew

12-06-2009, 07:46 PM

Have you ever been to a Perkins? They are pretty crappy. I'm more surprised that Tiger eats there.

I liked Perkins a lot. But that's probably more due to the fact that I used to live at one quite a bit during college.

Granted, I haven't been in one in 10 years now.

mauchow

12-06-2009, 07:54 PM

Galaxy

12-06-2009, 07:58 PM

Galaxy

12-06-2009, 08:00 PM

No, I wasn't making a comment on the hoes. I understood his logic on picking dowdy chicks who thought wouldn't be golddiggers and that he's a naive buffoon.

I really was commenting on the dereliction by his friends. I mean, he didn't have one dude in his inner circle who was like "Tiger, bro...seriously man?" Not at the looks, just at his various rookie mistakes.

I mean, he's no rocket scientist and is clearly proven to be just a dumb jock, but...I'm just more aghast at how badly whipped his entire inner circle is.

You would think that Tiger has a Hooters in the area.

digamma

12-07-2009, 04:16 PM

From What would Tyler Durden do?:

"Tigers sex list now includes Cori, this new Jamie, the other Jamie, Rachel Uchitel, the white girl who sounds black, me, you, you again (fag), some kid who came by the house selling candles, the LA Sparks, a stuffed Garfield, and his wife (not confirmed)."

Maple Leafs

12-07-2009, 04:28 PM

http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/files/2009/12/03/flowchart-to-determine-if-your-pro-athlete-husband-is-cheating/CHEAT2.jpg
A Flowchart to Determine if Your Pro-Athlete Husband is Cheating On You | Maxim.com (http://www.maxim.com/sports/sports-blog/85394/flowchart-to-determine-if-your-pro-athlete-husband-is-cheating.html)

TLK

12-07-2009, 04:35 PM

You would think that Tiger has a Hooters in the area.

Been there. Done that.

Galaxy

12-07-2009, 07:16 PM

Been there. Done that.

This another girl?

Where the hell does Tiger find all the time for these women? Has he been hanging out with JimmyWint?

Young Drachma

12-07-2009, 07:55 PM

I don't think this is surprising. I mean, what athletes aren't boning lots of chicks? I think it's their willingness to declare their skanyness in the hopes of 15 seconds of fame, that's the astounding part.

Some media outlets are saying the wife has moved out of the house and is living somewhere down the street.

But man, talk about a fall from 0 to 60 in a second, geez. Should be interesting to see how he rebounds from this from an image setting.

Toddzilla

12-07-2009, 09:48 PM

Pimpin' ain't easy...

Sweed

12-07-2009, 09:51 PM

Wilt Chamberlin claimed he slept with 10,000 women.

IIRC he was never married, so bone appétit!

Neuqua

12-07-2009, 10:20 PM

I think Chamberlain's number was closer to 20,000.

Galaxy

12-07-2009, 11:02 PM

I think Chamberlain's number was closer to 20,000.

Personal life of Wilt Chamberlain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_life_of_Wilt_Chamberlain)

Matthean

12-07-2009, 11:08 PM

Been there. Done that.

Clearly above average, or at least in my area. I never went to it, but I worked at an office supply shop and the Hooters girls came in to get signs and such made up. Desperation radiated from them and out of the whole time I was there only one I would have claimed as worthy of working there.

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RainMaker

12-08-2009, 02:48 AM

I cannot stand Perkins. Every time my family recommends it I will immediately say no and make sure they choose something else. I used to LOOOVE going there for the breakfast but something about it changed and I haven't been back more than once or twice in the last few years.
Chicken Tender Melt man. Best sandwich out there. Had one in college that turned into the late night place to eat after a night out. I love that place and wish we had one in the area.

RainMaker

12-08-2009, 03:01 AM

TMZ is reporting that Tiger was admitted to the hospital as an overdose patient. The drugs listed are Vicodin and Ambien. Guess that makes a bit more sense for the reason for the crash as well as his neighbor saying he was snoring afterwards.

I was on Ambien years ago and was given Hydrocodone for a knee issue I had. Mixing that stuff may not be dangerous physically, but it made the Ambien go into hyperdrive. The first night I slept twelve hours. Received a call in the morning from a co-worker that I had no recollection of later on. Apparently went back to sleep after that. It felt more like a blackout than sleeping. I was on a rather mild dose I imagine so if he's on heavier versions of the two, there is no way he could handle a car.

Makes me wonder if the window breaking was less about attacking him and more about scaring him into stopping the car before he left the house. She had to know that it was really dangerous for him and maybe was doing all she could to stop him.

I didn't touch the Ambien again until the Hydrocodone was no longer needed. Then gave up the Ambien a couple months later as I didn't like the side effects.

Neon_Chaos

12-08-2009, 03:26 AM

But man, talk about a fall from 0 to 60 in a second, geez. Should be interesting to see how he rebounds from this from an image setting.

Easy. By winning.

Everyone loves winners.

cougarfreak

12-08-2009, 05:15 AM

Breaking news says a woman was taken from Tiger Woods home this morning about 2:30 AM on advanced life support........Not sure how many "women" live in his home???

panerd

12-08-2009, 06:26 AM

Breaking news says a woman was taken from Tiger Woods home this morning about 2:30 AM on advanced life support........Not sure how many "women" live in his home???

Saw that also. Remember Tiger was in serious condition after his wreck so I don't know how much stock to put into this report but we may be witness to what happens in a lot of non-millionaires houses across the country every day. On one hand it's non of my business but I admit I click on the stories and read them.

JonInMiddleGA

12-08-2009, 06:51 AM

Local news reports that the patient appeared to be a middle-aged woman when she was removed from the ambulance at the hospital. An SUV with a license plate one digit different than the one involved in Tiger's accident was seen leaving the hospital a short time later, driven by a blonde woman. Woods vehicles are actually loaners from GM so the consecutive license plates make sense.

RedKingGold

12-08-2009, 07:01 AM

Easy. By winning.

Everyone loves winners.

I want winners.

--Mike Singletary

Mizzou B-ball fan

12-08-2009, 07:11 AM

jbergey22

12-08-2009, 07:15 AM

Speculation from the on site reporter was it could have been Tigers wifes mother.

Flasch186

12-08-2009, 08:02 AM

Whomever it is supposedly is on advanced life support.

boberot

12-08-2009, 08:06 AM

Mrs. boberot this morning:

"Wow . . . . He's turning into O.J."

Kodos

12-08-2009, 08:22 AM

Can't wait for the slow-speed golf cart chase.

Mizzou B-ball fan

12-08-2009, 08:28 AM

It's absolutely incredible how stories like this seem to explode into a mushroom cloud when it appears at first that there's little more than a firecracker. The only blessing here for the wife is that she will have $300M to live her life and raise the kids. The bad side is that we have yet another father in our society who will not be a good role model and influence for his kids. What a waste.

I have a greater respect for Phil Mickelson after this whole mess. Hard to believe that people consider him to be a bad guy. Seems like a good guy who loves his family and took the selfless road of leaving the tour for a time to help his wife through cancer treatments. He has his priorities in order.

Rizon

12-08-2009, 08:35 AM

"Leave no witnesses"
- some rapper

molson

12-08-2009, 09:02 AM

Whomever it is supposedly is on advanced life support.

I heard one doctor say she looked at the log where that came from, and to her it looked like 3 seperate calls (one said "refused treatment", one said "life support", and one said something else). None of them were tied to any specific location, it was just a reporter's guess based on the times.

Autumn

12-08-2009, 09:03 AM

This story gets weirder and weirder. Now he'll say it was all one of those Ambien dazes. Didn't we have a thread on that already? We should just move this one there.

CraigSca

12-08-2009, 09:36 AM

No doctor here, but "advanced life support" sounds worse than it is. My wife had a fainting episode this past summer and we took her to the emergency room because of it. "Life support" was the regular paramedics crew. On the way to the hospital they picked up another paramedic who could perform basic IVs - this was "advanced life support".

Logan

12-08-2009, 10:02 AM

Yeah there was clarification in the ESPN article as to what that meant: "Advanced life support is a term typically used by paramedics or EMTs for resuscitation efforts that extend beyond basic CPR. Typically, it includes things such as IV therapy, intubation, and/or drug administration."

Samdari

12-08-2009, 10:25 AM

Tiger Woods' mother-in-law was admitted to a hospital early Tuesday with a stomach ailment, a hospital spokesman said.

I think this torpedoes the idea that Elin had moved to a house down the street.

Maple Leafs

12-08-2009, 10:30 AM

Was the stomach ailment caused by getting a good look at that Perkins waitress? Because if so, join the club.

RomaGoth

12-08-2009, 10:36 AM

Can't wait for the slow-speed golf cart chase.

This got no love and that is a travesty. :lol:

Dr. Sak

12-08-2009, 10:36 AM

Was the stomach ailment caused by getting a good look at that Perkins waitress? Because if so, join the club.

Just mean Maple Leafs

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Entertainment/spl_Mindy_Lawton_091204_main.jpg

RomaGoth

12-08-2009, 10:39 AM

Just mean Maple Leafs

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Entertainment/spl_Mindy_Lawton_091204_main.jpg

I will never eat at Perkins again.

Maple Leafs

12-08-2009, 10:40 AM

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Entertainment/spl_Mindy_Lawton_091204_main.jpg
Steve Phillips wouldn't hit that.

Ronnie Dobbs2

12-08-2009, 10:44 AM

I thought it was his mother-in-law that was named Barbaro.

Kodos

12-08-2009, 10:44 AM

She looks like a female version of Carrot Top.

RomaGoth

12-08-2009, 10:46 AM

She looks like a female version of Carrot Top.

Wait, Carrot Top is a male?

Dr. Sak

12-08-2009, 10:46 AM

Steve Phillips wouldn't hit that.

"Sometimes I looked like a rag doll after we'd made love," she told the paper. "He really did like it quite rough. He wanted to spank me and loved pulling my hair as we had sex. He also liked me to talk dirty to him, but hair-pulling was what really turned him on.

Young Drachma

12-08-2009, 10:59 AM

Tiger Woods' mother-in-law released from hospital - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=4724190)

M GO BLUE!!!

12-08-2009, 11:07 AM

Note to self: Stay away from anything in the Woods' refrigerator marked "Tiger."

Young Drachma

12-08-2009, 11:07 AM

Mind - Postpartum Depression Strikes Fathers, Too - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/health/08mind.html?8dpc)

Logan

12-08-2009, 11:44 AM

I'm only about halfway through, but I believe everything in this article.

Chaos In Tigerland: A Deadspin Investigation Into The Expensive Sexual Habits Of Pro Athletes - Tiger Woods Poon Parade - Deadspin (http://deadspin.com/5416948/chaos-in-tigerland-a-deadspin-investigation-into-the-expensive-sexual-habits-of-pro-athletes)

DanGarion

12-08-2009, 12:16 PM

Maybe Tiger's mother in law is pregnant with Tiger's love child! That's why she had stomach pains.

Subby

12-08-2009, 12:20 PM

Steve Phillips wouldn't hit that.
That's a pretty solid idea for a web site.

Noop

12-08-2009, 12:26 PM

I will never understand why famous people get married... George Clooney has the right idea.

Subby

12-08-2009, 12:32 PM

I will never understand why famous people get married... George Clooney has the right idea.
Because there is more to life than having sex with random hot women?

Subby

12-08-2009, 12:33 PM

j/k

Autumn

12-08-2009, 12:38 PM

j/k

lol

Mizzou B-ball fan

12-08-2009, 02:03 PM

Good lord.....NSFW.......

hxxp://thesuperficial.com/2009/12/tiger_woods_didnt_use_a_condom.php

Dr. Sak

12-08-2009, 02:20 PM

Dude a little warning please

Samdari

12-08-2009, 02:22 PM

j/k

I was gonna ask, "What?"

Rizon

12-08-2009, 02:27 PM

Tiga Tiga woods ya'll

Flasch186

12-08-2009, 02:29 PM

so I wonder if Tiger gets resoundingly booed when he enters the tee box next time.

:)

albionmoonlight

12-08-2009, 02:32 PM

I'm still suprised by this. Not because I had any sense that Tiger was too moral to chase tail. But because, if asked, I would have figured that he would not do anything that would jeopardize his golf game. Why bag some skank when you could be getting in 9 holes of practice?

I guess he had time to be the best golfer in the world and bang skanks. He should do an ad for whatever electronic organizer he uses.

Rizon

12-08-2009, 02:36 PM

I'm still suprised by this. Not because I had any sense that Tiger was too moral to chase tail. But because, if asked, I would have figured that he would not do anything that would jeopardize his golf game. Why bag some skank when you could be getting in 9 holes of practice?

.

I think he was getting those 9 holes of practice ....

RomaGoth

12-08-2009, 02:44 PM

Why bag some skank when you could be getting in 9 holes of practice?

Some would say he was doing both at the same time....

Edit: Rizon beat me to it, guess I need to refresh the page more often.

Young Drachma

12-08-2009, 02:45 PM

so I wonder if Tiger gets resoundingly booed when he enters the tee box next time.

:)

Only if an LPGA gallery shows up. You know, if they had fans over there.

RainMaker

12-08-2009, 02:57 PM

I didn't think it was a huge deal when the first girl came forward, but the guy is really coming across as a huge piece of shit now that it appears he was fucking anyone with a vagina. Who the fuck does that to the Mother of their children? I know cheating happens but Tiger seems to have no fucking conscience at all to be so blatant and aggressive in it.

Might be the greatest golfer ever but is a horrible human being.

Rizon

12-08-2009, 02:58 PM

Some would say he was doing both at the same time....

Edit: Rizon beat me to it, guess I need to refresh the page more often.

I refresh every 30 seconds.

RainMaker

12-08-2009, 03:01 PM

Easy. By winning.

Everyone loves winners.
His image is tarnished. If this was one affair, it's different, but it is looking more and more like he was fucking girls all over the place while his wife was at home raising their children. Not to mention the fact he commited a DUI and looks to be a drug abuser. That is just not the image a lot of companies are going to want backing their products.

Tiger wasn't paying these women off because he felt that winning a few tournaments would fix it. He was doing it because he knows this is a huge strike against him.

sabotai

12-08-2009, 03:02 PM

Might be the greatest golfer ever but is a horrible human being.

+1

DanGarion

12-08-2009, 03:02 PM

HEY GUYS TIGER WOODS WAS IN A SERIOUS ACCIDENT!

Flasch186

12-08-2009, 03:07 PM

O NOEZ

Dr. Sak

12-08-2009, 03:08 PM

Maybe HBO should hire Tiger Woods to promote the new season of Big Love

endemicFOF

12-08-2009, 03:13 PM

Hopefully Tiger gets help for his heroin/opium/narcotic/vicodin/etc problem, certainly not a joke.

Maple Leafs

12-08-2009, 03:16 PM

so I wonder if Tiger gets resoundingly booed when he enters the tee box next time.
I've never heard it called that before.

Honolulu_Blue

12-08-2009, 03:16 PM

JPhillips

12-08-2009, 03:42 PM

Good lord.....NSFW.......

The Superficial - Tiger Woods didn't use a condom with this (http://thesuperficial.com/2009/12/tiger_woods_didnt_use_a_condom.php)

If I were you I'd pull that before the HNIC gives you a boxing for posting a NSFW link.

Kodos

12-08-2009, 03:51 PM

Can't wait until news of his underground cockfighting ring breaks.

DaddyTorgo

12-08-2009, 03:53 PM

His image is tarnished. If this was one affair, it's different, but it is looking more and more like he was fucking girls all over the place while his wife was at home raising their children. Not to mention the fact he commited a DUI and looks to be a drug abuser. That is just not the image a lot of companies are going to want backing their products.

Tiger wasn't paying these women off because he felt that winning a few tournaments would fix it. He was doing it because he knows this is a huge strike against him.

I agree. He's now moved up to "Douchebag #1 status" in my book

Young Drachma

12-08-2009, 03:53 PM

At the end of the day, I think Tiger will come out of this fine. He may lose some sponsors, but he wont lose Nike. He is Nike golf. I don't think Nike had a golfing line - at least not one of note - before Tiger Woods. He also IS golf. He's much larger than his sport. So, he'll continue to be a draw, probably now more than ever, in fact.

Other than his fellow golfers, who don't seem to like him all that much and are probably reveling in this whole mess, the "golf world" - fans, announcers, etc. - will embrace him when he returns. They will cheer him and shower him with praise for overcoming this very difficult time (even though it's one entirely of his own making). They will rally around "their" Tiger and in a few months this whole thing will blow over.

He may lose some of his non-golf sponsors, since he's become a total joke at the moment, but I don't think they will all totally abandon him and, after a year or so, some others will pop back up. This whole thing will definitely cost him more many than most of us will likely make in our lifetimes combined.

Indeed. Nike Golf didn't exist pre-Tiger. They created it a few years after he went pro and he eventually switched to their equipment once his earlier deals expired.

And yeah, people forget that the overwhelming majority of golf fans are rich dudes. Emphasis on rich. Emphasis on dudes. Couple that with the fact that no one in his sport has the drawing power he does, his earning power shouldn't be hurt by this much, especially overseas where he still commands seven-figure appearance fees.

His behavior is despicable, but I don't think it's endemic to only him...I just think he was massively sloppy (pun intended) and now his hubris is coming back to bite him.

DaddyTorgo

12-08-2009, 03:53 PM

If I were you I'd pull that before the HNIC gives you a boxing for posting a NSFW link.

sssh - that'd give us some peace in the obama thread for a few days :lol:

RomaGoth

12-08-2009, 03:54 PM

Might be the greatest golfer ever but is a horrible human being.

+2

Kodos

12-08-2009, 03:55 PM

This whole thing is going to revolutionize the way that I don't watch golf.

lerriuqs

12-08-2009, 03:55 PM

At the end of the day, I think Tiger will come out of this fine. He may lose some sponsors, but he wont lose Nike. He is Nike golf. I don't think Nike had a golfing line - at least not one of note - before Tiger Woods. He also IS golf. He's much larger than his sport. So, he'll continue to be a draw, probably now more than ever, in fact.

Other than his fellow golfers, who don't seem to like him all that much and are probably reveling in this whole mess, the "golf world" - fans, announcers, etc. - will embrace him when he returns. They will cheer him and shower him with praise for overcoming this very difficult time (even though it's one entirely of his own making). They will rally around "their" Tiger and in a few months this whole thing will blow over.

He may lose some of his non-golf sponsors, since he's become a total joke at the moment, but I don't think they will all totally abandon him and, after a year or so, some others will pop back up. This whole thing will definitely cost him more many than most of us will likely make in our lifetimes combined.

Other golfers may not like him, but they also know he's their meal-ticket. Purses have gone up a lot since Tiger joined the tour and there's no other golfer that would have caused the same change to happen. The change in the level of buzz about the game when he had the knee injury showed that to be the case.

My prediction is that he will have one of his best years ever - he's about 18 months after knee surgery now and has a few more months to go before the new season really starts. And the 2nd year timeframe is when athletes with knee injuries really seem to fully recover. So we'll have a fully healthy Tiger who's pissed off at the world. Not a good combination for the opposition when you combine it with the internal drive he's shown that he has already.