Official 2010-11 College Basketball Thread

[sovereignstar v2]

Have they said where this ref crew is from? God damn do they call a lot of fouls.

[Radii]

I thought UNC was supposed to be a title contender this year?

They'll hopefully be better than this shit by the end of the year but you can find many posts by me last year writing off UNC until Larry Drew is no longer the starting PG. I expect better than last year and say a 2nd round or sweet 16 NCAA caliber team. Hopefully I'll enjoy watching Barnes, but I'm still not excited about a clear one and done guy.

[Swaggs]

Have they said where this ref crew is from? God damn do they call a lot of fouls.

I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't be much of a college basketball fan if all games were called like the ones in this tournament.

[Atocep]

I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't be much of a college basketball fan if all games were called like the ones in this tournament.

170 fouls called in the 3 games WVU played in this tourney. Atrocious officiating.

[sovereignstar v2]

Yeah, I did a little research and came to the conclusion that there are about 38 personal fouls called per college bball game. So there were 50% more fouls called in the games WVA played in.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Syracuse by 3 :( (nothing against Syracuse- wade just seemed to be the only one who cared in this thread)

SI
boeheim almost murdered one of the beats during the presser. he's been saying this is the most overrated team he's ever had and that cuse stinks.

that's not motivational shit either. he usually calls it as he sees it. this doesn't bode well.

[molson]

boeheim almost murdered one of the beats during the presser. he's been saying this is the most overrated team he's ever had and that cuse stinks.

that's not motivational shit either. he usually calls it as he sees it. this doesn't bode well.

This is definitely the time to catch them for an upset, but nobody's been able to do it yet. I think they have a chance to improve as the year goes on. A lot of interesting/talented freshman that have a lot of holes. But no real go-to guys, or leadership. Kris Joseph was supposed to be "the man" this year, I guess, but he hasn't shown up yet.

[Lathum]

Man did we look good against virginia but I think we can stop jacking up threes with a 40 point lead.

[dawgfan]

Fantastic performance by Washington tonight in all phases, and they were properly lauded by the ESPN crew. Great night for Washington basketball, and hopefully they can play with that same kind of focus and intensity tomorrow vs. Kentucky.

Just sick really to think how good the Huskies would be if Jones had stuck with his commitment to Washington...

[spleen1015]

Good to see Duke fight through a little adversity last night. The game again KSU tonight should be a good one.

[cartman]

Hopefully I'll enjoy watching Barnes, but I'm still not excited about a clear one and done guy.

The way things are going in the NBA CBA discussions, there might not be any one and dones this year.

[whomario]

The way things are going in the NBA CBA discussions, there might not be any one and dones this year.

would be interesting what happens in that case. Normally i´d say that Europe would hold a lot of apeal then, but then again there might be a sizeable number of NBA players going that route (especially guys originally from Europe) so that money wouldn´t be that easy to get for players coming from the college game.
No idea if this is even legally possible, but at least for all free agents or guys normally owed qualifying offers etc this would be an option.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Looking forward to the Mizzou games tonight and tomorrow in Mexico. Winning this tourney would likely mean a top ten ranking.

[Groundhog]

Any top-flight one and done would easily find themselves a very nice one-year deal in Russia/Turkey/Anywhere.

[Izulde]

I'm really looking forward to watching the 76 Classic on TV this weekend. I think UNLV can win it, but Murray State and Virginia Tech will be tough opponents if advancements work out as I think they will.

[RainMaker]

Murray State is real good. Did well in the tournament last year and have every starter back.

[Lathum]

This UW-KY game has a big game feel to it and great pace. Anyone who says the Jones story is a non story is just plain wrong, there is a definite angst between these two teams.

[cartman]

Texas beats Sam Houston State 84-50, giving Rick Barnes career win #500.

[Lathum]

pst, Lorenzo, how about a timeout?

[Scarecrow]

Glad to see coach K has taught this new class how to flop so well.

[Matthean]

No. 2 falls as Kemba Walker shines again - College Basketball Nation Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/CollegeBasketballNation/post/_/id/18654/no-2-falls-as-kemba-walker-shines-again)

State goes down after a lackluster start to the season and a growing trend of missing free throws. It's going to be interesting to see how well this team handles being anointed #2 in the country. They probably under perform a bit only to crank it up during March Madness.

[Lathum]

Amazing we are up one at the break the way we played.

[Groundhog]

Michigan State's guards are streaky as hell. Whenever I watch them play it seems they can't get anything to drop.

[dawgfan]

Washington needs to solve the rebounding problem they have. Too bad the best solution to the problem backed out of his live TV commit to them this summer and decided to cast his lot with Calipari...

[EagleFan]

Can Dicky V possibly blow Duke any harder?

[RomaGoth]

No. 2 falls as Kemba Walker shines again - College Basketball Nation Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/CollegeBasketballNation/post/_/id/18654/no-2-falls-as-kemba-walker-shines-again)

State goes down after a lackluster start to the season and a growing trend of missing free throws. It's going to be interesting to see how well this team handles being anointed #2 in the country. They probably under perform a bit only to crank it up during March Madness.

I enjoy seeing MSU lose at anything. :D

[Scarecrow]

I gotta say congratulations to Duke tonight; they played a very solid game, and I don't think any college team (and maybe a couple pro teams) could have beaten them.

[spleen1015]

Can Dicky V possibly blow Duke any harder?

This even got on my nerves. He was smoking it hard for Kyrie Irving.

[Balldog]

No. 2 falls as Kemba Walker shines again - College Basketball Nation Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/CollegeBasketballNation/post/_/id/18654/no-2-falls-as-kemba-walker-shines-again)

State goes down after a lackluster start to the season and a growing trend of missing free throws. It's going to be interesting to see how well this team handles being anointed #2 in the country. They probably under perform a bit only to crank it up during March Madness.

They shot 75% from the line while UConn shot 58%. Yea Green missed a couple at the end of the game (career right around 60%) but these things usually average out.

They seem to be missing Raymar Morgan more than anyone expected. I think they lose today against Washington too.

[JonInMiddleGA]

UConn is doing nasty shit to Kentucky, 50-29 at the half.

[Groundhog]

Is Kemba Walker this year's Evan Turner?

[BishopMVP]

UConn is doing nasty shit to Kentucky, 50-29 at the half.The scary thing is UConn's backup PG might be better than Kemba. In an admittedly small sample (4 years playing and 2.5+ of coaching) I have never seen a player up close who is as quick as Shabazz Napier. I've seen a few very good college players in that league who I felt were decent enough (Michael Beasley comes to mind), but Napier seemed like a Mass. version of Iverson - without knowledge of his grades I don't know why he reclassified and committed mid-year but it seemed absurd he wasn't BCS+ level already. (He also has a badass name fwtw ;) )

On our end, I wouldn't say UMass has played particularly well, but we are 5-0, which counts for something (an NIT berth?) This is kind of is one of those "we know our coach can recruit, but can he win close games or you know, um, coach?" seasons, and so far the defense is light years better than the past two. Hopefully it continues.

[Johnny93g]

2012 5 star point guard Kevin "Yogi" Ferrell commits to Indiana today!!
Just amazing the run Coach Crean is on right now. He's closed the border of Indiana.

This was expected, what wasn't was two 2013 prospects, Colin Hartman and Devin Davis pledged themselves to IU last weekend.

There isn't alot of info on Hartman or Davis, anyone here in the know care to share?

[RedKingGold]

Villanova let UCLA hang around, but got the double digit win, 82-70 in the NIT semis.

I'm really excited about 'Nova as I think it's the best "team" since the 2005-2006 Lowry-Foye-Ray year. However, UConn just looks downright scary so far and will be no afterthought in the Big East.

[MrBug708]

UCLA was a few mental errors for making that a better game, this year isn't the team, next year they'll be better

[Izulde]

80-71 win for UNLV in the first round of the 76 Classic. Tulsa played the Runnin' Rebels close for most of the first half and were got as close as 5 in the second half, but 20 turnovers killed the Golden Hurricane. Then again, UNLV had 16 as well.

Derrick Jasper found his earlier rebounding form back and netted his first collegiate double-double with 13 points and 10 rebounds, along with 2 steals. Chace Stanback again came up with clutch shots and finished with a team-high 15 points on 6/7 shooting. Four Runnin' Rebels with 12+ points - Stanback, Jasper, Oscar Bellfield (13 points - once again hot early before cooling off. Also had 7 assists, 2 steals and a block to 3 TOs), and Tre'Von Willis (12 points as 6th man).

We shot 52.7% as a team, once again accurate from 3 point range at 8/14 (57.1%). A very balanced, solid win over a decent Tulsa team.

I'm nervous about the game against Murray State tomorrow night. Racers have a really good squad and I had them, Virginia Tech, and UNLV as the three favorites to win the 76 Classic.

[Kodos]

2012 5 star point guard Kevin "Yogi" Ferrell commits to Indiana today!!
Just amazing the run Coach Crean is on right now. He's closed the border of Indiana.

This was expected, what wasn't was two 2013 prospects, Colin Hartman and Devin Davis pledged themselves to IU last weekend.

There isn't alot of info on Hartman or Davis, anyone here in the know care to share?

Just saw that Yogi had committed today! The pieces are all in place now for an IU resurgence in basketball. Lots of talent coming in. Just need to ride out one more season where we'll be fairly mediocre, and then the climb back to the top of the Big Ten will begin in earnest.

Man I wish I felt this good about the future of our football team. Hopefully Bill Lynch is fired by this time tomorrow.

[DeToxRox]

lol Cal scored 5 points in the 1st half vs Notre Dame. 1 shy of the record.

[JeeberDMack]

UTEP's up 37-31 on Georgia Tech at the half in the first semifinal of the Legends Classic in Atlantic City. The winner of this game will play the winner of tonight's Michigan/Syracuse game tomorrow evening.

[Izulde]

Arguably the best first half I've seen out of UNLV this season. 34-22 halftime lead over Murray State, due largely to forcing 13 Racers turnovers.

We ended up 69-55 winners and advance to the 76 Classic championship, as Murray State got no closer than 7 in the second half. UNLV statistical stars: Chace Stanback with 19 points on 7/8 shooting, 3/4 from 3 point range, Quintrell Thomas with perhaps his best game as a Rebel - 5/5 for 12 points, 6 rebounds, 2 blocks and just 1 turnover, Derrick Jasper having a solid all-around game of 10 points and 4 rebounds on 5/10 shooting and playing really quality defense that didn't show up on the box score. Oscar Bellfield finished with 10 points and 6 assists, but also had 6 turnovers and was just 3 for 9. He didn't have his usual fast start and in fact, he was 1 for 5 before going 2 for his last 4, including a couple 3 pointers.

Runnin' Rebs shot beautifully as a team, 58.7% from the floor, 47.6% from 3 point range. However, we got beaten on the glass, 27 to 23. On the other hand, we held the Racers to 34.8% shooting, so it's all good.

I predicted before the tournament started that UNLV, Murray State, and Virginia Tech looked like the strongest teams. Runnin' Rebels ran off the Racers and now it's on to the 76 Classic final against the Hokies.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

cuse mich. game was a clunker. looked like a rec game at the y. fab melo played all of 5 min. ugly ugly cuse win.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

A reminder if you're looking for some basketball to watch. Arizona/Kansas is on at 10:00 PM EST on ESPN2.

[Izulde]

Went to what is quickly becoming my favorite local bar to watch the 76 Classic championship: UNLV/Virginia Tech.

We started off cold and the Hokies were hot, a 13-4 deficit and I got a bad feeling in my stomach. By halftime, though, we'd not only come back, but after going on a run after the score was tied 20-20, were up, 37-30. Credit 10 turnovers and Virginia Tech's horrific 4 of 13 from the charity stripe for that lead.

They got close multiple times in the second half, and it wasn't until the later stages of the game that we finally went up by 10, then got our lead cut yet some more, than expanded it out to a final 71-59 score.

Heroes of the Game
Chace Stanback
17 points (8/15), 8 rebounds (4 ORB). Talentwise, a certain Mr. Willis is our best player, but Chace has been the team's leader and hero for the early season. Took a few ill-advised shots in my opinion, but you can't ignore another great outing from him.

Quintrell Thomas
14 points (6/7), 3 rebounds, in just 17 minutes. Q has really, really improved from how he looked earlier in the season and is quietly starting to impress me on the offensive end. Defensively I'm still not entirely sold on him, but he's proving an effective post scorer.

Anthony Marshall
10 points (5/9), 4 rebounds, 4 assists, a steal, a block. Fantastic first half from him, as he made a lot of heads up plays. Was quieter in the second half, but nonetheless a valuable cog in the guard rotation.

Tre'Von Willis
14 points (5/11, 3/7 from downtown), 3 assists, 3 steals. Had his best game of the season by far. Still not in the starting lineup, but like I told somebody else, he's finally starting to look like he's getting back to All-Conference form. The only one of our players who could hit from long range all night long.

Other Notes
First time this season our 3 point shot failed us. 4 for 17 (23.5%), and although we were 53.8% from the field, it didn't feel like we were shooting that well. On the other hand, we hustled on the offensive glass far better this game than we have at any point in the season, which was great to see.

Both teams shot in the 40s from the free throw line. I suspect coach is going to have them practicing that this week. Good ball security by the Rebs. Just 9 turnovers to the Hokies' 18, a big difference in the game.

Lastly, let me give a shout to Virginia Tech's Malcom Delaney. I heard this kid was scary good coming into this game and he put on a hell of a show. 28 points on 9/14, 7/9 from behind the arc, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, and 2 steals. Sure he had 4 turnovers, but this guy is for real based on what I saw of him tonight. He singlehandedly kept his team in the game.

But in the end, it's the UNLV Runnin' Rebels - 2010 76 Classic Champions! :)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I'm going to the Mizzou-Georgetown game tonight at the Sprint Center. Pretty excited to attend a game. Those opportunities don't come along quite as often when you have kids. Will be interesting to see which team can control the tempo in their favor.

Game is on ESPNU at 9:00 PM EST.

[panerd]

I'm going to the Mizzou-Georgetown game tonight at the Sprint Center. Pretty excited to attend a game. Those opportunities don't come along quite as often when you have kids. Will be interesting to see which team can control the tempo in their favor.

Game is on ESPNU at 9:00 PM EST.

I can't wait, that should be a blast. I don't know how I feel about the Tigers so far. I think they are probably overrated by about 10-15 spots and have not looked great in their warm-up games but on the other hand kids seem to play up or down to the level of their competition. So Arkansas-Pine Bluff and a half empty crowd will not get the same effort as an electric Sprint Center against one of the Big East's signature teams. I wish it weren't the case and Mike Anderson could motivate them every trip out but I think we will find out tonight what this team is really made of.

[DataKing]

This game should be an interesting contrast in styles. I'll be checking it out tonight if I can.

[Izulde]

I'll just toss in that UNLV is now finally ranked in the Top 25 at #24. :)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Hoo boy. If you missed the Mizzou-Georgetown game, you missed a dandy. That game had everything you want in a big time matchup between two very good teams. Georgetown had the best shooting game they'll have all year long. They didn't miss in 18 FT attempts. They were burying one key three pointer after another. Yet Mizzou came roaring from an 18 point deficit to take a five point lead late in the game. Georgetown then managed to come back when Mizzou missed a couple late FT's and hit a three to tie at the end of the second half. Turned out to be a demoralizing basket that threw MU into a funk in OT.

Yes, there was a blown call at the end of the first and second half that cost MU the win (how Higgins still has a job as a referee I'll never understand), but it's extremely hard to worry about it too much when you have that great of a game. Georgetown hit shot after shot with a hand in their face and Mizzou battled back. It was a wonderful tourney-like atmosphere. Definitely got my money's worth tonight.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I can't wait, that should be a blast. I don't know how I feel about the Tigers so far. I think they are probably overrated by about 10-15 spots and have not looked great in their warm-up games but on the other hand kids seem to play up or down to the level of their competition. So Arkansas-Pine Bluff and a half empty crowd will not get the same effort as an electric Sprint Center against one of the Big East's signature teams. I wish it weren't the case and Mike Anderson could motivate them every trip out but I think we will find out tonight what this team is really made of.

I don't think there's any question that both Georgetown and Mizzou are very good teams after watching that game tonight. They're both going to be teams that you don't want to face in the NCAA tournament.

[Radii]

UNC loses again, expected here for sure after struggling seriously to beat UNC Asheville and College of Charleston.

superstar and #1 pick next year if there isn't a lockout Harrison Barnes started out with two good games against Lipscomb and Hofstra. Since then he's shot 0-12(Minnesota), 4-12(Vandy), 5-12(UNC-Asheville), 3-12(College of Charleston), and 2-9(Illinois) from the field. That's 24.5% over his last 5 games.

[Balldog]

When FSU plays VA Tech, will either team score 30?

[mauchow]

Big 10 might lock it up here in the PU/VT game. Wisconsin put away NC St easily. Iowa had an 18 point lead against Wake yesterday and got beaten, and then Minnesota missing key players and they lost their game which they PROBABLY would not have normally.. at home no less. This could have been a pretty dominated challenge for the Big 10 but the ACC has made something of it instead.

[cartman]

Rick Barnes, after notching overall career win #500 last week, gets career win #300 at Texas in a 76-55 win over Lamar.

[Butter]

Dayton has their 40 game non-conference home winning streak snapped against E. Tennessee State. They're not a BAD team by any stretch, but after starting 5-0, Dayton has gone in the tank with a 34 point road loss at Cincinnati and a 7 point loss to the Bucs last night.

Team is still looking for a leader to LEAD them in key situations. Was widely considered that it would be Senior All-American candidate Chris Wright, but he has been frankly awful this year. UD fell down 13-2 early, came back to lead by 7 in the first half, but gave up another big run to open the 2nd half and never recovered.

Time for the Flyer Faithful to ratchet down those expectations. Never a fun time at the ol' UD message boards, that's for sure.

[MJ4H]

Thankfully, Arkansas beat Oklahoma last night. Showed some flashes of looking pretty decent. The chemistry on this team is much better than the past few seasons have been, but the team is still pretty rough around the edges. Hopefully they can continue improving and we can build on the #2 ranked recruiting class coming in next season. Not expecting to be world-beaters this year, but just hoping for more progress. Last night was a good sign.

[Logan]

Watched a good amount of the Indiana-BC game last night. Indiana made a nice run at the end there but fell short. BC's Reggie Jackson really impressed me, hadn't seen him before this game.

[Kodos]

Yep. Was happy to see that IU was in it for most of the game. Things got away from them a bit at the end.

[Izulde]

82-51 win for UNLV in their first road game of the season @Illinois State. Nice balanced effort all around from the box score. Most interesting stat for me was Karam Mashour playing 10 minutes and getting 5 points. Still not ready to contribute in a regular rotation, but at least he's getting some garbage time.

Reno up next on Saturday and if we don't kill the Wolfpack, I will be very angry.

Edit: Oh and we broke out the black unis for the first time since '99. They looked pretty damn cool IMO.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Going to have to stay up late tonight. Tigers are playing the Ducks out in Oregon at 11:00 EST. Hopefully they can rebound from their first loss with a strong showing on the road.

[MizzouRah]

Going to have to stay up late tonight. Tigers are playing the Ducks out in Oregon at 11:00 EST. Hopefully they can rebound from their first loss with a strong showing on the road.

I'm not in basketball mode yet, but I might have to stay up as well.

[Logan]

After a tying 3 by UCLA with about 7 seconds left, Kansas gets bailed out after gathering a loose ball off a strip and gets a foul call with tenths of a second left on the clock. Heading to the line...

[MrBug708]

ahaha

[Logan]

Kansas hits the 1st, misses the 2nd on purpose...game over.

[MrBug708]

I didnt actually think they would call the travel, but I can't imagine a world where they would have called that a foul, with no time left when two guys dived for a loose ball

[Logan]

Probably when one guy actually gathered the ball and another ran into him as he made an effort to get a shot off.

[panerd]

I didnt actually think they would call the travel, but I can't imagine a world where they would have called that a foul, with no time left when two guys dived for a loose ball

Welcome to the world Mizzou fans have to endure year after year where KU can do no wrong. Total screwjob on UCLA.

[MrBug708]

I've watched that play run over a dozen times and I'm still not sure what the foul was on. The only contact made by the UCLA player was the ball at the same time it was in the lap of the Kansas player and the momentum taken by the Kansas player allowed him to keep going with the ball. He is trying to put up the shot and you can see the UCLA player with his hands already in the air...

*shakes head*

[MrBug708]

And a baaaad Oregon team took Mizzou to the wire

[panerd]

And a baaaad Oregon team took Mizzou to the wire

Yep we were up 22 at the half and I went to bed. (i wake up at 5 so those 8 PM West Coast games are not fun) Looks like Mizzou almost pissed this one away. Seems to be this team's m.o., they are young and go in spurts. Definitely going to make this season interesting and hopefully they pull it all together for conference play.

[Butter]

Probably when one guy actually gathered the ball and another ran into him as he made an effort to get a shot off.

Yeah. Looked like a foul to me. But what else do I expect out of this thread. :rolleyes:

[MrBug708]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEh8f45FJI8

The only time they bumped into each other was before any sort of shot and the ball was loose

[wade moore]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEh8f45FJI8

The only time they bumped into each other was before any sort of shot and the ball was loose
Is the debate about whether it was a foul, or whether it was a shooting foul?

Because there was clearly a foul there, but I'd say it wasn't a shooting foul.

[MrBug708]

UCLA's player got to the ball first, no way can that be a foul, especially with less than a second left in the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEh8f45FJI8#t=10s

Freeze it at the 11 second frame

[Logan]

UCLA's player got to the ball first, no way can that be a foul, especially with less than a second left in the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEh8f45FJI8#t=10s

Freeze it at the 11 second frame

Uhhhhh okay...

http://i53.tinypic.com/x1zr0x.jpg

Kansas player with hands on the ball, UCLA player reaching with one hand. How exactly did UCLA player get to the ball first?

[Logan]

For further effect, here's more of the 11 second mark:

http://i56.tinypic.com/23j4u4h.jpg

Which team's player has the ball in his stomach and which team's player has an arm in there with his other one hanging out there?

[MrBug708]

Looks like two players hustling for a loose ball. How you can call that on any player, much less the UCLA player, is still a travesty. I also said UCLA's player was first to the ball, not that he ended up with the ball

[MJ4H]

Looks like two players hustling for a loose ball. How you can call that on any player, much less the UCLA player, is still a travesty. I also said UCLA's player was first to the ball, not that he ended up with the ball

And one of them winning.

[wade moore]

Bug, you're just wrong on this one. From the footage I'm seeing, it's a clear foul on UCLA. Two players hustle for the ball, no foul is called. The Kansas player gets the ball, then the UCLA player bumps/grabs him, THEN the foul is called.

[Logan]

And one of them winning.

And his direction changing subsequently.

Bottom line, the first UCLA defender made a great (clean) play swatting that ball out of Kansas' hands and it ended up costing them unfortunately.

[MrBug708]

And his direction changing subsequently.

Bottom line, the first UCLA defender made a great (clean) play swatting that ball out of Kansas' hands and it ended up costing them unfortunately.

Because he was trying to draw the foul on a shot on a play where there wasn't a foul. Smart play by the Kansas player.

It really shouldn't have been that much time left because after the made three pointer, the Kansas player never was totally out of bounds when he in-bounded the ball.

Either way, UCLA took Kansas to the wire and while it should have been an OT game, I can live with the progress the team has made with their performance in the game. Taking the nation's 4th ranked team to the wire and almost ending their home winning streak was pretty good from my POV

[Logan]

Dude, you're out of your mind. Let it go.

[wade moore]

Because he was trying to draw the foul on a shot on a play where there wasn't a foul. Smart play by the Kansas player.

It really shouldn't have been that much time left because after the made three pointer, the Kansas player never was totally out of bounds when he in-bounded the ball.

Sounds like someone knows when they've lost and decided to shift the argument.

[MrBug708]

Sounds like someone knows when they've lost and decided to shift the argument.

Nope. There is some talk of Ben Howland filing a formal protest. Not that it will change much, but at least it will be on record.

[wade moore]

Nope. There is some talk of Ben Howland filing a formal protest. Not that it will change much, but at least it will be on record.

So an unbiased source agrees with you, got it.

[Logan]

Nope. There is some talk of Ben Howland filing a formal protest. Not that it will change much, but at least it will be on record.

The body shot he gave his assistant when he exploded with rage had slightly less impact than the foul call.

[panerd]

So an unbiased source agrees with you, got it.

I agree with him also but I do think my hatred of KU makes me somewhat biased. :)

[MrBug708]

The body shot he gave his assistant when he exploded with rage had slightly less impact than the foul call.

I think the water bottle suffered a bit more

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

And a baaaad Oregon team took Mizzou to the wire

But there's little question that Mizzou is a top 15 team and Oregon is still a very bad team.

[sterlingice]

I think I'm just going to stay out of the KU-UCLA one

SI

[Radii]

Every time Harrison Barnes has touched the ball since the 8 minute mark something bad has happened immediately. I am not at all impressed.

Still though, UNC-Kentucky has been fun to watch and I'm happy with the fight UNC is putting up. Zeller and Henson have both improved a lot since last season.

[MizzouRah]

Looked to me like that call could have went either way.. and well.. they are in Kansas :)

[JonInMiddleGA]

So UNC beats #11 Kentucky 75-73 in what reads like a darned good game.

That said, if the ESPN pbp is correct, the Heels last made FG was at 6:46 and Kentucky hit only 2 shots from the floor in the final 9:59, both of those coming in the final :51 secs. Carolina scored 16 of their last 20 from the line, which weren't all have-to's by UK, the Cats led until the final minute.

It just looks, I dunno, a little strange when you see it on paper.

[molson]

Probably when one guy actually gathered the ball and another ran into him as he made an effort to get a shot off.

The way you write that makes it sound like the exchange took 10 seconds. It's a bit of a stretch to say he "ran into him as he made an effort to get a shot off". It was a loose-ball grazing.

And that "foul" is called all the time in basketball, so I don't think it was a bad call (probably shouldn't have been a shooting foul though), but that kind of "foul" is one of the things that makes basketball occasionally so irritating to watch.

[Radii]

Big win for North Carolina. After poor FT shooting all day they hit what they needed to in the final minute. Tyler Zeller with 27 points/11 boards/5 blocks and huge from the free throw line in the last 5 minutes, he has gotten SO much better down low. I'm happy enough that I won't even point out all the things I hate about Larry Drew today ;)

[Radii]

That said, if the ESPN pbp is correct, the Heels last made FG was at 6:46 and Kentucky hit only 2 shots from the floor in the final 9:59, both of those coming in the final :51 secs. Carolina scored 16 of their last 20 from the line, which weren't all have-to's by UK, the Cats led until the final minute.

The last 7 or 8 minutes of the first half and first 15 minutes of the second half were a lot of fun to watch. Things slowed down a LOT in the final five minutes.

[TargetPractice6]

I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Wish the Cats could have held on, but I liked the effort from both teams. Congrats, Heels.

[rjolley]

Thought the Butler-Duke game would be a no contest for Duke, but Butler is playing very well, even with 3 starters out of the game for various reasons. 60-54 Duke with about 8 to go.

[the_meanstrosity]

The way you write that makes it sound like the exchange took 10 seconds. It's a bit of a stretch to say he "ran into him as he made an effort to get a shot off". It was a loose-ball grazing.

And that "foul" is called all the time in basketball, so I don't think it was a bad call (probably shouldn't have been a shooting foul though), but that kind of "foul" is one of the things that makes basketball occasionally so irritating to watch.

I don't know that the officials called it a shooting foul. Kansas was in the double bonus so it would have been two shots no matter what kind of foul. My thoughts on the game were that it was just a poorly officiated game on both ends of the floor. Honeycutt was the best player on the floor by far and Smith was a load down low. If they can get Smith's endurance up he could be a very good player for Howland. Though looking at Smith's previous numbers it seems he has a penchant for fouling. It will be interesting to see how UCLA fares in the Pac 10 this year. They should be one of the better teams, but I would have thought that the last couple of years as well with Howland's recruiting.

[spleen1015]

Thought the Butler-Duke game would be a no contest for Duke, but Butler is playing very well, even with 3 starters out of the game for various reasons. 60-54 Duke with about 8 to go.

Bulter played really well. They left me wondering how they lost to Louisville and Evansville. I think Mack is going to make a decent pro.

I feel for Matt Howard. He plays the same way I always have. Play hard and give it everything and foul out in the process.

[Chief Rum]

I have had a crazy past few days in real life, so I was unfortunately unable to watch the UCLA-KU game. I would tend to agree with the view that it was a tight play, and that the call made, if it had to be made, was probably the right one.

That said, I think it was an awful decision by the ref to call such a tight and relatively ticky-tacky foul so close to the end of the game. He essentially decided the game with that call. Not saying he's wrong to call it, but in a sport where a foul can probably be called on every play and it's up to the refs to call which ones, I would like to think they would let the players on the floor decide the game at that point, rather than calling a foul on a move which could not possibly have ended up as a basket unobstructed.

In any case, it was a terrific game by both teams and certainly UCLA can take some pride from taking KU down to the wire at Allen Fieldhouse. It's certainly something to build on for a UCLA program in need of some positive growth after last season's debacle.

[MrBug708]

So much for building on it eh?

[the_meanstrosity]

So much for building on it eh?

Sorry to jinx your Bruins Bug. I didn't see the game, but judging from the stats it sounds like either Montana played stifling defense or UCLA was just off tonight.

[Chief Rum]

Sorry to jinx your Bruins Bug. I didn't see the game, but judging from the stats it sounds like either Montana played stifling defense or UCLA was just off tonight.

Little abit of both. Montana was an NCAA team last year and they have held their opponents to 39% shooting from the field prior to tonight. And UCLA just completely shot like shit.

Of course, it's never just about luck. UCLA flat never even tried, IMO. They weren't into this game at all. So they deserved to lose.

[the_meanstrosity]

Little abit of both. Montana was an NCAA team last year and they have held their opponents to 39% shooting from the field prior to tonight. And UCLA just completely shot like shit.

Of course, it's never just about luck. UCLA flat never even tried, IMO. They weren't into this game at all. So they deserved to lose.

It can happen. I imagine it's a tough job for coaches to get players up for each and every game especially when they are lesser known teams that can actually play sound defense. Young players just expect to turn it on whenever they want, but that is not always the case.

[cartman]

Texas had a horrible game last night against USC, losing 73-56. The Horns just seemed really flat while USC came out guns blazing and never let up.

[jbergey22]

But there's little question that Mizzou is a top 15 team and Oregon is still a very bad team.

Lets see here. Lost to Georgetown, almost lost to the lowly Ducks, struggled on neutral courts to Wyoming and LaSalle. I think there are plenty of questions if Mizzou is a top 15 team. I believe they played another tight one against a pretty poor team as well.

On paper is sure doesnt look like a top 15 team.


You'd expect a high pressure team like Mizzou to be crushing teams at this point in the season and not sqeaking them out.

[mauchow]

Lets see here. Lost to Georgetown, almost lost to the lowly Ducks, struggled on neutral courts to Wyoming and LaSalle. I think there are plenty of questions if Mizzou is a top 15 team. I believe they played another tight one against a pretty poor team as well.

On paper is sure doesnt look like a top 15 team.


You'd expect a high pressure team like Mizzou to be crushing teams at this point in the season and not sqeaking them out.

Kenpom has 'em at 36... so on paper they aren't a top 15 team... right now.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Kenpom has 'em at 36... so on paper they aren't a top 15 team... right now.

Right now being the key words there. There's a lot of people finding roles on the team with our top scorer from last year (English) currently struggling with injuries, but with Marcus Denmon and Ricardo Ratliffe emerging as a great inside-outside threat, MU should be just fine. Anderson teams are known for starting slowly and this team is no different.

With that said, MU's only loss is to the #1 RPI team in the nation and it's a game that MU should have won as was noted previously. In addition, all of Mizzou's tough games have been on the road or on neutral courts thus far. They've still got home games against Vandy and Old Dominion (MU has never lost a non-conference game at home under Mike Anderson) and the Illinois game to shore up their resume. I'd expect a 12-2 record heading into conference play.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

It can happen. I imagine it's a tough job for coaches to get players up for each and every game especially when they are lesser known teams that can actually play sound defense. Young players just expect to turn it on whenever they want, but that is not always the case.

More importantly, it's best just to find a way to win in these early games. People get caught up way too much in scoring margins when coaches are often experimenting with some players and lineups that they won't use when conference play starts. These games are important to find out which players can be useful when the big games start coming later in the year.

[Logan]

Couple nice matchups tonight at the Jimmy V Classic. Memphis-Kansas is on now followed up by MSU-Cuse.

[JonInMiddleGA]

GT basketball makes the football program look like Super Bowl contenders.

There isn't an emptier suit on a bench in American than Paul Useless.

[digamma]

It's sort of weird. I'm a little scared that this GT team is going to improve a decent amount over the season just from playing together more. There are some good pieces--Rice and Oliver in particular. I had written off this season as the one that had to happen to get someone to pony up the money to buy out Hewitt. But, in a weak ACC, they may be too good by the end of the season. Maybe CPH can mess it up.

[JonInMiddleGA]

It's sort of weird. I'm a little scared that this GT team is going to improve a decent amount over the season just from playing together more. There are some good pieces--Rice and Oliver in particular. I had written off this season as the one that had to happen to get someone to pony up the money to buy out Hewitt. But, in a weak ACC, they may be too good by the end of the season. Maybe CPH can mess it up.

Oh didn't you hear, DRad says we're "headed in the right direction".

Apparently we've hired another misbegotten idiot to run the show. Either Radakovich is a damned liar or a damned fool, but either way, after that remark tonight fuck his sorry ass too.

Dwayne Morrison could outcoach the current dimwit & I'm strongly starting to believe that Isiah Thomas might be a better manager of a program.

[Izulde]

Right now being the key words there. There's a lot of people finding roles on the team with our top scorer from last year (English) currently struggling with injuries, but with Marcus Denmon and Ricardo Ratliffe emerging as a great inside-outside threat, MU should be just fine. Anderson teams are known for starting slowly and this team is no different.

With that said, MU's only loss is to the #1 RPI team in the nation and it's a game that MU should have won as was noted previously. In addition, all of Mizzou's tough games have been on the road or on neutral courts thus far. They've still got home games against Vandy and Old Dominion (MU has never lost a non-conference game at home under Mike Anderson) and the Illinois game to shore up their resume. I'd expect a 12-2 record heading into conference play.

You realize RPI is pretty useless as a ranking, right? I mean shit, UNLV had the #1 RPI before they played Reno Saturday night (and won).

[dawgfan]

You realize RPI is pretty useless as a ranking, right? I mean shit, UNLV had the #1 RPI before they played Reno Saturday night (and won).
He's trying to avoid better measures like their kenpom rating...

[MJ4H]

Everyone knows the best rating to use is the one that rates your team the highest.

[digamma]

Oh didn't you hear, DRad says we're "headed in the right direction".

Apparently we've hired another misbegotten idiot to run the show. Either Radakovich is a damned liar or a damned fool, but either way, after that remark tonight fuck his sorry ass too.

Dwayne Morrison could outcoach the current dimwit & I'm strongly starting to believe that Isiah Thomas might be a better manager of a program.

Let me offer a third scenario...the program is headed in the right direction....[inner voice]because I've finally found someone who will pony up the 7 million to pay off Hewitt[/inner voice].

Oh if that were true.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

You realize RPI is pretty useless as a ranking, right? I mean shit, UNLV had the #1 RPI before they played Reno Saturday night (and won).

Agreed that it's questionable right now. Usually not real accurate until 10-12 games in, much like Kenpom. With that said, an overtime loss to Georgetown is not going to hurt Mizzou in any way and MU is still a very good team.

[Radii]

Ok I remember being annoyed all the discussions about early season ratings last year, as my favorite team was rated poorly and i was still under the delusion they would recover from an early season tough schedule... who was rolling those early rankings out??:

One year ago yesterday: Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Official 2009-10 College Basketball Thread (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=2180547&postcount=437)

mbbf brags about the kenpom rating as Mizzou is #10, and responds to a "its early this doesn't really mean much does it" post with:


There's definitely enough data there to draw meaningful conclusions. The ranking gives the nod to margin of victory and who you've played. Mizzou has already played three teams ranked in the Kenpom top 25, so they're going to get a high ranking despite losing two of those three games. I'm sure you understand that, but thought I'd mention just in case.


and:

1/4 of the season is complete, so there is plenty of good info available.


Seriously... really? Last year at this time Mizzou was 5-2 and rated #10 and these glorious ratings systems had plenty of good info available. This year Mizzou is 6-1 and the ratings in the mid-30s and we need a few more weeks for the ratings to have any sort of accuracy at all.


I know, I'm piling on, but when it comes to mbbf, I just can't help myself.

[dawgfan]

OI know, I'm piling on, but when it comes to mbbf, I just can't help myself.
Seriously, he just sets himself up so clearly that it's almost impossible to resist.

[Logan]

Oof.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Ok I remember being annoyed all the discussions about early season ratings last year, as my favorite team was rated poorly and i was still under the delusion they would recover from an early season tough schedule... who was rolling those early rankings out??:

One year ago yesterday: Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Official 2009-10 College Basketball Thread (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=2180547&postcount=437)

mbbf brags about the kenpom rating as Mizzou is #10, and responds to a "its early this doesn't really mean much does it" post with:




and:




Seriously... really? Last year at this time Mizzou was 5-2 and rated #10 and these glorious ratings systems had plenty of good info available. This year Mizzou is 6-1 and the ratings in the mid-30s and we need a few more weeks for the ratings to have any sort of accuracy at all.


I know, I'm piling on, but when it comes to mbbf, I just can't help myself.

Nothing there that differs from my opinion in this thread. There's information there, but I don't disagree with the poster that the rankings can jump around quite a bit this time of the year.

Obviously, Mizzou has a big game tonight against Vandy that will go a long way in showing what we have on our hands. Nice to finally have a home game.

[MJ4H]

Arkansas gets a nice 9 point win over Seton Hall in the SEC-Big East Challenge at a neutral court. Seton Hall looked pretty bad without their star scorer, though. Had as big as a 17 pt lead before letting Seton Hall back in and then pulling away near the end.

Some reason for both optimism and concern, but I don't think this team wins that game last season.

[Logan]

Nice to finally have a home game.

Am I missing a joke here?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Am I missing a joke here?

No. Mizzou has had three neutral court and one road game previous to this one. There were a couple of tune-up home games, but the games against the more quality teams had been away from home before now.

Another fantastic overtime game tonight. Thankfully this one went to the Tigers. Great to see Marcus Denmon play so well in the second half and win the game for the Tigers only a day after his 20 year old cousin died in a shooting here in KC. Amazing fortitude by the kid.

[Logan]

A game at the Sprint Center in Kansas City is a stretch to call a neutral court.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

[QUOTE=Logan;2391405]A game at the Sprint Center in Kansas Ci

I believe RPI considers it 'semi-home'.

Interesting article from Andy Katz about the Vandy-MU game. Sounds like the MU staff still thinks that there's a chance that Tony Mitchell will join MU by second semester.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/5902689/marcus-denmon-wills-tigers-ot-win

[JonInMiddleGA]

Big time win for Tennessee on the road against Pitt, led by as many as 21 and won by 7.

[Izulde]

UNLV's first loss of the season, 69-77, against Louisville after getting up to as much as a 9 point lead early in the second half. The game worried me, being an early morning road game and with us playing sloppy in the second half in our most recent wins.

Sure enough, we had far too many turnovers and didn't hit our shots very well, outside of a late run to give us a 38-33 halftime lead and then early in the second half.

Since the Cardinals were #24, I don't know if this loss will be enough to knock us out of the Top 25. We're definitely out of the Top 20, though, which is disappointing.

Still, I'd rather have a game like this early in the season as a wakeup call.

[MrBug708]

The PAC-10 is still bad

[mauchow]

Wisconsin goes to Marquette and takes care of business. 69-64 final at the Bradley Center. And the former Wisconsin verbal Vander Blue gets his first taste of never beating Wisconsin in his career (I hope).

[MacroGuru]

BYU destroyed Arizona tonight...

BYU is looking like a tough team... MWC right now is looking tough with SDSU (Ranked), UNLV (Ranked) and BYU (Ranked)...

It's going to be a brutal season in the MWC...

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Not surprised at all that LaSalle gave Villanova all they could handle today. They're a good squad and a young one at that. They were a handful for Mizzou as well.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Dola

Pretty cool tradition at a NAIA school.

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[Thomkal]

Coastal Carolina with a big win last night against LSU. Let the lead slip away in the last minute but then took control in overtime to win by 8. Only the second time they have beaten an SEC team and the first time was against South Carolina way back in 1993.

Interestingly enough its the two transfers from South Carolina who may be leading this team to another post-season bid after winning 28 games a year ago. Chad Gray has come on strong after an early season illness and Mike Holmes played his first game for the Chants last night after becoming eligible to play under transfer guidelines. Scored 14 points and 10 rebounds in 22 minutes coming off the bench.

Very curious to see how they will do with the addition of Holmes now for the rest of the season.

[MrBug708]

Dola

Pretty cool tradition at a NAIA school.

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Heh. Half my family went to Taylor University and this video was posted all over facebook this morning

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Good lord. Marcus Denmon and the Mizzou coaching staff attended today's funeral of his cousin who was shot. Gunfire actually broke out at the funeral. Thankfully no one was hurt. What the hell is wrong with people?

[Logan]

Tennessee up 3 on Oakland with 9 minutes left. ESPNU

[MrBug708]

Good lord. Marcus Denmon and the Mizzou coaching staff attended today's funeral of his cousin who was shot. Gunfire actually broke out at the funeral. Thankfully no one was hurt. What the hell is wrong with people?

You can take a kid out of the hood but cant take the hood out of the kid

[Balldog]

Good to see Oakland finally win one of these games. They've played tough with Illinois, Michigan State and now finally beat Tennessee.

[JonInMiddleGA]

From the penthouse of Saturday's demolition of Pitt on the road to the outhouse of losing at home to Oakland as the crowd booed the Vols lack of effort/interest in the game.

Oakland deserved the win, they wanted it more & were more prepared to play.

[Drake]

If I'm a Tennessee basketball fan, I'm really confused about the ceiling for my team right now.

[wade moore]

Ugh on Tennessee.

But Drexel up on Louisville at half, w00t!

[DeToxRox]

Finally my school does something that is worthy of posting about.

Golden Grizzlies, top of the Summit.

[wade moore]

Drexel beats Louisville and there are probably two CAA teams with a chance of at-large discussion if they take care of business in the conference - Drexel and ODU.

[Butter]

ODU is a very good team. Dayton played by far their best game of the season against them this past Saturday, and still went down by 3. The Monarchs impressed me quite a bit with their rebounding and toughness.

[RainMaker]

It's not that bad of a loss for Tennessee. Oakland isn't a bad team, they hung tight with Purdue earlier in the year.

Not saying they shouldn't have won and shouldn't be disappointed in it, but Oakland will likely win the Summit and end up as a 12-14 seed this year.

[RainMaker]

Drexel beats Louisville and there are probably two CAA teams with a chance of at-large discussion if they take care of business in the conference - Drexel and ODU.
The conference has really improved over the years and is the cream of the crop when it comes to mid-majors. I've seen some rating systems that have them ahead of the Pac-10 this year.

Crossing my fingers that Northwestern can keep rolling along and make their first NCAA Tournament ever.

[JonInMiddleGA]

It's not that bad of a loss for Tennessee. Oakland isn't a bad team, they hung tight with Purdue earlier in the year.

They lost to Michigan State by one point over the weekend, but the thought was that Tennessee might very well be better than the trio of ranked teams (Illinois being the other) that Oakland had hung in with.

Alas, they aren't.

And with the 8 game suspension of the head coach looming, they aren't likely to get any better, although Pearl hasn't been able to solve the issue of the Amazing Disappearing Hopson or The Unbelievably Difficult Free Throw so it may not matter all that much.

[RainMaker]

Were you a fan of CJ Watson? He's the Bulls backup PG. Sort of torn on him.

[wade moore]

The conference has really improved over the years and is the cream of the crop when it comes to mid-majors. I've seen some rating systems that have them ahead of the Pac-10 this year.

Crossing my fingers that Northwestern can keep rolling along and make their first NCAA Tournament ever.

Well, we haven't quite crawled up past the A-10 and the MVC in past years, but right now we're pwning the A-10, so we'll see.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Were you a fan of CJ Watson? He's the Bulls backup PG. Sort of torn on him.

He's probably overpaid (2 yrs/$6.5m is what I've seen) but he's fine if you're looking for a PG whose primary instinct is to shoot a mid/long jumper or a three.

I recall him as a non-traditional point who was made much more effective by being paired with a scorer like Chris Lofton. I haven't seen him play that many games as a pro so I'm not sure how much he developed beyond his college years

[Marmel]

This seems newsworthy:

Missouri point guard Michael Dixon has been suspended indefinitely for an unspecified violation of team rules.

Wednesday's action means the sophomore starter won't play Thursday night when the 13th-ranked Tigers host Oral Roberts.

Dixon is averaging 10.7 points and a team-leading 4.3 assists. He scored a season-high 17 points in Missouri's 111-102 loss to Georgetown on Nov. 30 and is one of two players to have started every game.

[BishopMVP]

Well, we haven't quite crawled up past the A-10 and the MVC in past years, but right now we're pwning the A-10, so we'll see.I thought so too based off H2H and perception, but Sagarin till likes us more than you (and C-USA) although not by very much this year.

Other interesting thing there - he has UConn #1 in the half heavily biased towards W/L results and #31 in the Predictor half that takes scores more heavily into account. Washington is nearly the opposite, with a 39/5 split.

[panerd]

This seems newsworthy:

Missouri point guard Michael Dixon has been suspended indefinitely for an unspecified violation of team rules.

Wednesday's action means the sophomore starter won't play Thursday night when the 13th-ranked Tigers host Oral Roberts.

Dixon is averaging 10.7 points and a team-leading 4.3 assists. He scored a season-high 17 points in Missouri's 111-102 loss to Georgetown on Nov. 30 and is one of two players to have started every game.

Traffic violation.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Traffic violation.

Never ceases to amaze why college-age kids think they can ignore traffic tickets. He'll be suspended a game or two and be back on the team.

[JonInMiddleGA]

You gotta be f'n shitting me.

UNC-Charlotte beats Tennessee 49-48 ... three days after the now 5-6 49ers kicked their leading scorer off the team.

[RainMaker]

He's probably overpaid (2 yrs/$6.5m is what I've seen) but he's fine if you're looking for a PG whose primary instinct is to shoot a mid/long jumper or a three.

I recall him as a non-traditional point who was made much more effective by being paired with a scorer like Chris Lofton. I haven't seen him play that many games as a pro so I'm not sure how much he developed beyond his college years
That's not a bad NBA contract. Pretty typical for a backup.

He's been basically what you described. Kind of a nice spark off the bench and gives the 2nd unit an option. He put up 31 points a month ago when Rose was injured so he has the ability to score. If he was a better ballhandler, I think he'd be more valuable. But for now, he can give a team a solid 10-15 minutes a night.

[TargetPractice6]

You gotta be f'n shitting me.

UNC-Charlotte beats Tennessee 49-48 ... three days after the now 5-6 49ers kicked their leading scorer off the team.
Fine work, UNC-Charlotte. Fine work indeed.

[Scarecrow]

Gentlemen, the 2010-2011 season officially ends today - polish the trophy and send it to Lawrence....

JOSH SELBY is ELIGIBLE!!!!!!

[/sarcasm]

I really hope Dick Vitale is doing this game today; I need another new TV, and listening him blow UK and Selby might short circuit any tv the game's on.

[sterlingice]

(We're KU. Kthxbye)

Sounds like a good game to watch with the volume turned off. *sigh* i hate Dickie V

SI

[Scarecrow]

(We're KU. Kthxbye)

Sounds like a good game to watch with the volume turned off. *sigh* i hate Dickie V

SI

You are the University of Kansas.

damn dyslexics.

[Logan]

Lost in the Josh Selby debut is that Jio Fontan is making his first appearance with USC today, and seems to be going pretty well with 14 points so far. Fontan was completely jerked around by his old Fordham coach who refused to allow him to transfer to Rutgers, so I'm glad he's finally free and back on the court.

[JPhillips]

Good lord the OSU pep band sounds terrible.

edit: Appears to be some sort of alumni band.

[Scoobz0202]

Jared Sullinger is a pretty good basketball player.

[Thomkal]

Thought Coastal Carolina might have a bit of a letdown after their big win against LSU. That appears to be true because they didn't score 60 points against a good East Carolina team. Fortunately for them, East Carolina didn't score 60 points either. In fact CCU won it with a basket with 3 seconds left to win 59-58. Thrilling win!

[MJ4H]

Arkansas just lost in overtime to Texas A&M after playing well enough to win and then going completely cold from all over the court for the last 6 minutes of regulation and all of overtime.

Very disappointing. That should've been a win.

[sterlingice]

You are the University of Kansas.

damn dyslexics.

I don't know why it is- that's always bothered me since I started going to school there, frankly, but it is what they go by so KU it is. UK is Kentucky.

SI

[cartman]

For some reason, one of the Chinese stations was showing the Texas-North Carolina game this morning. I caught most of the second half. What a game! Freshman Cory Joseph hit a turnaround J with less than two seconds left to win the game before basically a hometown crowd for the Tar Heels.

[Radii]

For some reason, one of the Chinese stations was showing the Texas-North Carolina game this morning. I caught most of the second half. What a game! Freshman Cory Joseph hit a turnaround J with less than two seconds left to win the game before basically a hometown crowd for the Tar Heels.

grats on the win. Other than watching Larry Drew turn the ball over in some really stupid spots, I was happy w/ the Heels effort. They are more aggressive and have less possessions where they throw the ball around the perimeter looking lost for 25 seconds than they did 10 games ago. Baby steps.

[Young Drachma]

You are the University of Kansas.

damn dyslexics.

For KU, it apparently to be the preferred shorthand reference of students attending the school in the late 19th century. No rhyme or reason for why they decided this -- it wasn't about eastern schools with the UK name -- it was just easier to say KU in the songs they'd made and it stuck. Seemed to be a familiar midwestern University thing, too.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Last tune up out of the way for Mizzou. Looking forward to the big game vs. Illinois next week. Would love to see the guys make it two in a row over the Illini.

Word came down after tonight's game that Michael Dixon will return to practice tomorrow.

[tyketime]

I'm not sure what has turned me off about the UConn women's amazing record (and I do have to admit it is amazing), but sheesh. Can it really be fun for a team when "UConn entered the game winning its previous 87 in a row by an average of 33.3 points"? Can the coach's ego grow any larger? How about if he quits, joins another college, and tries to build that program up? What happened to the "challenge"? Another day, another win, another paycheck...

[panerd]

Last tune up out of the way for Mizzou. Looking forward to the big game vs. Illinois next week. Would love to see the guys make it two in a row over the Illini.

Word came down after tonight's game that Michael Dixon will return to practice tomorrow.

Can't wait. Me and my friends have been going for years. This year it gives a 2-day break before Christmas so we can be all the more rowdier! :) It kind of sucks that the Illini dropped that game this weekend to Illinois-Chicago but I will still love beating them even if they were 0-12.

[LloydLungs]

I'm not sure what has turned me off about the UConn women's amazing record (and I do have to admit it is amazing), but sheesh. Can it really be fun for a team when "UConn entered the game winning its previous 87 in a row by an average of 33.3 points"? Can the coach's ego grow any larger? How about if he quits, joins another college, and tries to build that program up? What happened to the "challenge"? Another day, another win, another paycheck...

What's turned me off is the record intermingling. I'm sorry, but women's basketball is a different sport than men's basketball. To me, in order to be the same sport for records purposes, there has to at least be some theoretical possibility that the teams involved could actually play each other -- i.e. you have to at least exist in the same sporting universe. A women's team could never play a men's team -- therefore, the sports are different and should have their own separate record books. Auriemma going to the "If you don't accept this, it means you want all women in the kitchen!" card is embarrassingly stupid and obnoxious and makes me have animosity for the women's game that I didn't otherwise have (until UNO exploded their athletics department, I was a women's basketball season ticket holder).

Similarly, Pat Summitt and Bob Knight, Don Meyer, et al being on the same list... sorry, but no. Pat Summitt is great, but these people coach in entirely different worlds from each other.

[Chief Rum]

What's turned me off is the record intermingling. I'm sorry, but women's basketball is a different sport than men's basketball. To me, in order to be the same sport for records purposes, there has to at least be some theoretical possibility that the teams involved could actually play each other -- i.e. you have to at least exist in the same sporting universe. A women's team could never play a men's team -- therefore, the sports are different and should have their own separate record books. Auriemma going to the "If you don't accept this, it means you want all women in the kitchen!" card is embarrassingly stupid and obnoxious and makes me have animosity for the women's game that I didn't otherwise have (until UNO exploded their athletics department, I was a women's basketball season ticket holder).

Similarly, Pat Summitt and Bob Knight, Don Meyer, et al being on the same list... sorry, but no. Pat Summitt is great, but these people coach in entirely different worlds from each other.

I'm with you on the different sports things and that the streaks aren't as easy to compare as they have been made. I think it's clear that, either way (women's basketball or men's basketball), both records are amazing accomplishments. But I agree, too, that a record set in women's basketball should have no effect on the view of a similar type of rcord set in men's basketball. They're as different as comparing Joltin' Joe's hit streak and Ripken's consecutive game streak--completely different types of competitions.

Regardless, the UConn women's achievement should certainly be celebrated--but the point of celebration should have been whenever they passed the previous women's record for consecutive victories. And for all I know, maybe it was celebrated then, but I don't recall it much. I don't even know how many wins that was.

Now, as to your last, I disagree there. While the competition is different, the concept of being a leader and teacher of young people (men or women) and showing them how to win championships is pretty much the same, and Summit and Auriemma, IMO, are fitting to be included among college's great coaches, along with Knight or Wooden or Coach K. I have no doubt if they switched the genders of their sports, they would still find success (although Summitt would have to deal with the possible bias against her being a woman coaching a men's sport, an unknown factor).

[LloydLungs]

Now, as to your last, I disagree there. While the competition is different, the concept of being a leader and teacher of young people (men or women) and showing them how to win championships is pretty much the same, and Summit and Auriemma, IMO, are fitting to be included among college's great coaches, along with Knight or Wooden or Coach K. I have no doubt if they switched the genders of their sports, they would still find success (although Summitt would have to deal with the possible bias against her being a woman coaching a men's sport, an unknown factor).

Don't misunderstand -- I think Summitt and Auriemma are great coaches and, in ability, stack up just fine with Knight, K, etc. I just think they belong in different record books. Doesn't mean they are any less capable, just that they coach in a different sporting universe from each other.

[Chief Rum]

Don't misunderstand -- I think Summitt and Auriemma are great coaches and, in ability, stack up just fine with Knight, K, etc. I just think they belong in different record books. Doesn't mean they are any less capable, just that they coach in a different sporting universe from each other.

Yeah, sorry if I misunderstood you. I agree with your point as expressed here.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Jacob Pullen and Curtis Kelly both suspended for three games for receiving impermissible benefits.

[Izulde]

You see these, Kansas State?! *raises middle fingers* These are for you! God damn bullshit 3 point ridiculous making buzzer beater before halftime shot jagoffs.

[Logan]

Jacob Pullen and Curtis Kelly both suspended for three games for receiving impermissible benefits.

Minimum 3 games for Kelly...possibly longer.

[Izulde]

Pullen 3 games, Kelly TBD.

[miami_fan]

What's turned me off is the record intermingling. I'm sorry, but women's basketball is a different sport than men's basketball. To me, in order to be the same sport for records purposes, there has to at least be some theoretical possibility that the teams involved could actually play each other -- i.e. you have to at least exist in the same sporting universe. A women's team could never play a men's team -- therefore, the sports are different and should have their own separate record books. Auriemma going to the "If you don't accept this, it means you want all women in the kitchen!" card is embarrassingly stupid and obnoxious and makes me have animosity for the women's game that I didn't otherwise have (until UNO exploded their athletics department, I was a women's basketball season ticket holder).

Similarly, Pat Summitt and Bob Knight, Don Meyer, et al being on the same list... sorry, but no. Pat Summitt is great, but these people coach in entirely different worlds from each other.


The records are not intermingled. UConn has the NCAA Division I women's record and UCLA has the Division I men's record. Two separate records for two separate competitions. As in most cases, your animosity should be directed at the the sports media. They are the ones who have created the "combined" record. The Auriemma comments were idiotic, but I can't say I blame him too much. IMO the people who say "well it's just women's basketball" are trying to denigrate the accomplishment and are no better than those who making this out to be the the equivalent of the 72 Lakers.....wait they only won 33 straight. UConn's women are better than them:D

[Izulde]

UNLV grinds out the 63-59 road win over #11 Kansas State despite an awful 38.2% shooting night and 2 of 13 (15.4%) from 3 point range. Free throw shooting saved our bacon, both our making and K-State missing. Tre'Von Willis had a key game with 16 points, finally in the starting lineup. He and Oscar Bellfield were a combined 10/10 from the charity stripe and Bellfield came up with a critical late-game beautiful block on a Wildcat fast break and clutch three point shot shortly thereafter. Derrick Jasper did his usual great boarding with 8 rebounds.

An ugly win, yes, but a very important win nonetheless.

[RainMaker]

I feel like more people would be accepting of the UConn record if Geno wasn't such a raging douche.

[cartman]

GREAT win for the Horns, beating Michigan State in East Lansing, 67-55. They played a complete game in a hostile environment.

[sterlingice]

Time to see how Mizzou and Illinois look

SI

[Matthean]

GREAT win for the Horns, beating Michigan State in East Lansing, 67-55. They played a complete game in a hostile environment.

I know it's at State and this was a team deemed #2 in the country to start, but they are currently 0-4 against ranked teams and had a mere one point win against a frisky Oakland team. I'm not saying Oakland is bad, but it's a team that MSU should be able to handle and yet struggled to do so.

[sterlingice]

Mizzou-Illinois has been a really fun game so far

SI

[sterlingice]

Really lame intentional foul call there.

There are so many times late in a game where a foul is intentional. They need to change that rule to mean "intentional" as in with intent to harm. But not intentional as in "strategic foul".

SI

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Really lame intentional foul call there.

There are so many times late in a game where a foul is intentional. They need to change that rule to mean "intentional" as in with intent to harm. But not intentional as in "strategic foul".

SI

Pretty funny. Higgins, who blew two calls that cost Mizzou a win against Georgetown, makes an equally lousy call in the Illini game. Really don't think it would have changed the outcome in this game (Mizzou likely has a 5 point lead with less than a minute to go even without the intentional foul). It continues to amaze me how Higgins continues to be allowed to referee D-I games. It's a travesty.

Great win for Mizzou in the end and a very good night for the B12. With the exception of the Kansas State debacle, the Big 12 has had a very good non-conference run thus far.

[sterlingice]

5 point? There was a 3 at the other end to cut it to one. Then the layup gives Mizzou a 3 point lead with a foul for a possible 4 point lead on the FT. Don't get me wrong, Mizzou still likely wins. But that was a crappy call that pretty much ended the game.

Now, watching the Gonzaga-Xavier game: that's what an intentional foul call is supposed to be. They just had a guy pretty much hammer one across the neck- that's an intentional foul like we're talking about.

SI

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

5 point? There was a 3 at the other end to cut it to one. Then the layup gives Mizzou a 3 point lead with a foul for a possible 4 point lead. Don't get me wrong, Mizzou still likely wins. But that was crap.

SI

My bad. You're correct. 4 points, not 5. And yes, it was terrible.

Also, I almost forgot about the timeout that Higgins granted Weber while there was a loose ball (Denmon had knocked the ball away and Weber clearly hadn't called the TO during possession).

[Wolfpack]

NC State 72, Delaware State 70, and it took a late tip-in to get that margin. All the good feelings surrounding the program have pretty much evaporated since the Georgetown loss. No wins against quality opponents (including a total meltdown at Wisconsin) and two embarrassing "wins" against Youngstown State and Delaware State are translating into an extraordinarily hot seat for Sidney Lowe right now (some corners of the internet fanbase are ready for new AD Debbie Yow to put a pink slip in Sid's stocking and not let this go on any further).

[Matthean]

I know it's at State and this was a team deemed #2 in the country to start, but they are currently 0-4 against ranked teams and had a mere one point win against a frisky Oakland team. I'm not saying Oakland is bad, but it's a team that MSU should be able to handle and yet struggled to do so.

Although breaking a 52 home non-conference winning streak is rather impressive no matter how messed up State currently is. I believe Duke was the last team to do it.

[panerd]

Mizzou-Illinois has been a really fun game so far

SI

It was a blast. I have been going for years (with the exception of a few years in the middle where the ticket was impossible to get) I don't know how it showed through on tv last night but the atmposhere was electric. I haven't seen it like this in a while. (Two years ago may have been the low point of this game for both programs)

Great to get a win and have only Old Dominion really standing in our way of a 14-1 start heading into conference play. I am not sure we will be able to hang in Lawrence yet but I put every other game on our schedule as winnable. I think we drop at KU, at KSU, vs either KU/KSU/or Baylor, and then a letdown like CU or Nebraska to finish the big 12 season 26-5/12-4 heading into the big 12 tournament. The big 12 is going to be really fun this year!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

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[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Geez, did Indiana really lose to Colorado????? Ouch.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Heard from a good friend that Curtis Kelly's suspension will end his career.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Tennessee manages to hold off Belmont at home 66-65 after blowing a 13 point 1st half lead. Needed a Hopson layup with 7 seconds left + a missed 3p attempt by Belmont in order to break their three game losing streak.

[wade moore]

Tennessee manages to hold off Belmont at home 66-65 after blowing a 13 point 1st half lead. Needed a Hopson layup with 7 seconds left + a missed 3p attempt by Belmont in order to break their three game losing streak.

Jon - have you watched these awful games? Any idea what is going wrong?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Jon - have you watched these awful games? Any idea what is going wrong?

Parts of them (not tonight), that's about all my stomach can handle.

They're a team with only one player showing up consistently & that's the freshman Tobias Harris. Hopson showed up tonight for the first time since the Pitt game, and pretty much everyone else disappeared. Pearl can recruit but struggles with the game day coaching part, he still has no rotation to speak of, still has found no solution to motivating a team that seems simply show up far more often than they come to play. The 8 game suspension may not make much difference, he certainly hasn't done much with the games he's been on the bench for with the notable exception of Pitt.

As for the team itself, it seems to be a collection of undertalented overachievers (little Pearl & McBee), role players who shouldn't be playing so many minutes (fat ass Brian f'n Williams), and an occasional star who seems to not give a fuck considerably more often than not (Hopson). With the exception of Goins & Tatum who at least seem to try more often than not, the rest are almost generic bodies that fill out the roster & provide additional fouls (Hall, Fields, Maymon). Too early to tell on the two freshmen McRae & Golden I think, but it would bode better for their long term if the team had any leadership at all.

[MizzouRah]

The Mizzou - Illinois game was fun to watch.

I agree about the lame call at the end.

[MJ4H]

I guess Renardo Sideny is probably done for good now.

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[Lathum]

WTF is wrong with that kid?

[MrBug708]

Im surprised he even had any eligibility. Kid was living in a half million dollar home in LA as a senior in high school.

[RainMaker]

Im surprised he even had any eligibility. Kid was living in a half million dollar home in LA as a senior in high school.
You haven't heard? You're allowed to pay players now. Just say the parents did it and it's all OK.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Conference play is just around the corner now in the Big 12. Mike Anderson just notched his 100th win at Mizzou and are off to their best start since the late 1980s (12-1). He still has never lost a non-conference game at Mizzou Arena. Only a good test against Old Dominion will keep them from doing that for another year.

It's been a LONG time since Mizzou has had this many good inside players who can block shots and score. Toss in that three of them can run the break and it's a lot of fun to watch.

[MizzouRah]

Conference play is just around the corner now in the Big 12. Mike Anderson just notched his 100th win at Mizzou and are off to their best start since the late 1980s (12-1). He still has never lost a non-conference game at Mizzou Arena. Only a good test against Old Dominion will keep them from doing that for another year.

It's been a LONG time since Mizzou has had this many good inside players who can block shots and score. Toss in that three of them can run the break and it's a lot of fun to watch.

Yes it has.. and the only loss being an OT loss to GT.

[Butter]

Dayton with a nice home win over George Mason last night to get their RPI up to #70 or so. Dayton is 11-3 with one bad home loss to ETSU on the schedule already. Can't afford any road slip-ups in A10 play in order to be considered for an at-large.

And this is a Dayton team that traditionally goes 9-7/8-8 in A10... that won't get it done.

Anybody that is bored of football, Dayton hosts New Mexico on New Year's Day at 2 PM on CBS College Sports. Not as quite of a powerhouse game as it was last year, but still should be a hard fought game between two of the better teams in the 2 best non-BCS conferences (yes, I said it CAA, whatchu gonna do about it?).

Treat yourself to watching Dayton true freshman PG Juwan Staten... he is leading the nation among freshmen PG with over 6.5 assists per game. Had 16 points and 5 assists last night against the Patriots.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Really nice win for Mizzou over Old Dominion tonight. They're a very good team and Mizzou absolutely destroyed them by 20+. Should be 14-1 going into conference play.

[MizzouRah]

Really nice win for Mizzou over Old Dominion tonight. They're a very good team and Mizzou absolutely destroyed them by 20+. Should be 14-1 going into conference play.

+1 Time for me to focus on basketball

[mauchow]

UCONN girls down with just over 5 to go... could be the end here. Over/under on number of UConn girls crying if they lose? 6?

[mauchow]

DOwn 8 with 2:33.. this is it. UConn girls are taking some bad shots down the stretch.

[panerd]

If a female tree falls in the forest does it make a sound?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Since the women's game came up anyway, I'll mention that Georgia Tech today set new defensive marks for women's D1, holding Tenn State to 11 points total in an 82-11 win. They also have the record for fewest points allowed in a half, leading 49-3 after 20 minutes.

[JonInMiddleGA]

71-59, ding dong the bitch is dead.

[RedKingGold]

Condoleezza Rice sighting!

[JonInMiddleGA]

Condoleezza Rice sighting!

They showed her so frequently down the stretch that I was starting to think I was watching CNN.

[RedKingGold]

They showed her so frequently down the stretch that I was starting to think I was watching CNN.

I'm just relieved she got out of Iraq in one piece.

[dawgfan]

Nice job by Washington sweeping the L.A. schools on the road this week to start Pac-10 play 2-0. Even better seeing the Cougars go 0-2 on the same swing...

[jbergey22]

Nice job by Washington sweeping the L.A. schools on the road this week to start Pac-10 play 2-0. Even better seeing the Cougars go 0-2 on the same swing...


Is the Pac 10 Washington/Arizona and the rest this year? None of the other teams seem good at all.

[dawgfan]

Is the Pac 10 Washington/Arizona and the rest this year? None of the other teams seem good at all.
Pretty much. There was some hope that WSU might be for real after their non-conference schedule (and they still might end up so), but going 0-2 in L.A. was a disappointment for them.

UW is tops in the conference, and Arizona is probably #2. After that, it's a scramble between WSU, UCLA, USC, ASU and Cal.

[Chief Rum]

Pretty much. There was some hope that WSU might be for real after their non-conference schedule (and they still might end up so), but going 0-2 in L.A. was a disappointment for them.

UW is tops in the conference, and Arizona is probably #2. After that, it's a scramble between WSU, UCLA, USC, ASU and Cal.

I wouldn't hand the #2 spot to Arizona just yet. UCLA as a team is still improving all of the time. Washington did really well and showed its own quality in beating both LA schools. I think that says more about Washington than it does the LA schools.

I think USC is in the top four mix as well.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Saw that Ken Pomeroy mentioned that his ranking is now solely based on this year's data for all teams. He uses some of last year's data until the 10th game for a team.

[digamma]

Harvard beat Boston College for the third straight time last night. My other team, Ga Tech, travels to Boston College this Saturday. I do not think the result will be the same.

[Chief Rum]

I do not think the result will be the same.

Well, of course not. Harvard's not playing. :)

[dawgfan]

Tough break for UW PG Abdul Gaddy who tore his ACL in practice earlier this week and is out for about 6-9 months.

Huskies have enough depth that they should still be able to win the conference, but it's a blow as he was much improved this year.

[digamma]

Well, of course not. Harvard's not playing. :)

I almost put "a BC loss" in parentheses, expecting a comment like this. ;)

[Logan]

I'm trying to find a link to the video of a non-traveling call that benefited Marquette last night against Rutgers. The announcers counted out each of the FOUR steps the player took right before he ran into a defender for the bucket...and the foul.

[k0ruptr]

Did anyone really think that Sidney would be the one gone after that melee in the stands in Hawaii? Of course not, he has nba talent, The other kid however, is transferring lol.

[Chief Rum]

Tough break for UW PG Abdul Gaddy who tore his ACL in practice earlier this week and is out for about 6-9 months.

Huskies have enough depth that they should still be able to win the conference, but it's a blow as he was much improved this year.

Yeah, this is a hit to your depth, but guard depth isn't really an issue for UDub. Your second unit gets a little worse, but not enough to bridge the gap between the Huskies and the mishmash of decent teams that make up the next tier of the Pac 10.

Gaddy shoulda gone to UCLA. ;)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Is there a more schizophrenic team in college hoops than Tennessee?

Wins over (at the time) #7 Villanova by 10, #3 Pitt by 10, #22 Memphis by 20
Wins over Belmont by just 6 at home, UT-Martin (4-11) by 1
Losses to Oakland (9-8), UNCC (8-7), USC (9-6), Coll of Charleston (9-5, incl loss to Morehead St by 20)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

For the Mizzou fans, great article about Coach Anderson......

Mike and Marcheita Anderson make basketball a family environment - Columbia Missourian (http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2011/01/06/faith-family/)

[Radii]

UNC-Virginia started out really well, both teams shooting well and playing quickly... it was 26-21 at the 8 minute mark of the first half. With 4:30 to go in the game Virginia leads 50-48, UNC has made 6 field goals in the half, Virginia 4.

Harrison Barnes has looked a lot better than I've seen him play. He only has 8 but no one is putting up numbers today. He's playing within the offense, taking good shots and not giving the ball away. Nothing that screams best recruit in the nation, but its an improvement.

Larry Drew continues to be a worthless waste of space, no change there.

[terpkristin]

While sitting on the couch and being highly medicated, I caught most of the UNC-UVa game. I gotta give UNC credit, they came back strong to win, especially after not getting a bucket for like 8 minutes between the end of the first half and beginning of the second.

Maryland plays Duke tomorrow. It's probably a good thing I'm still at my parents' house, they won't want to watch it which might make my recovery go a little less stressful.

/tk

[whomario]

West Virginia with a nice win over Georgetown

[cartman]

Hell of a college basketball game in Austin today. UConn beat Texas 82-81 in OT. It was back and forth the whole game.

[MacroGuru]

BYU has to be the least talked about top 15 team in the nation because no one can watch them on that stupid television deal the MWC has....

They will shock teams in the tourney this year.

[Radii]

UGA beats #11 kentucky and Colorado over #8 Missouri in addition to WVU upsetting Georgetown.

[henry296]

You can add Penn State over Michigan State to the upset list todayl.

[MJ4H]

Arkansas beat Tennessee today (which doesn't seem to be that shocking based on the list of teams that has beaten Tennessee). Good to get off to a decent SEC start, though.

[Swaggs]

West Virginia with a nice win over Georgetown

West Virginia has had a Jekyll and Hyde type of season so far, but this was certainly an encouraging road win.

I'm not ready to declare WVU over the hump, since Georgetown has been up and down (mostly down, lately), but getting this win and being 2-2 after 3 Big East road games feels infinitely better than 1-3 would have.

[MrBug708]

TO be fair, Colorado is a good basketball school

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

TO be fair, Colorado is a good basketball school

They're a bottom four team in the Big 12. That may be 'good' in other conferences, but Mizzou had no business losing to them, even on the road. That's the kind of loss that can kill your shot at a title.

[Marmel]

Cuse beat Seton Hall this weekend.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/520731/9d6bd50f-4a26-42e8-bf7b-6ba3a363f689_medium.jpg

[molson]

Ha.

Another great coaching job by Boeheim this season. I don't quite understand how they're #4, 16-0, but they just keep winning. I keep expecting the correction, and I'm sure they'll drop a few soon, but once again, Syracuse seems to be vastly overachieving.

[cartman]

Texas gets their conference play off to a great start with a 83-52 dismantling of Texas Tech in Lubbock.

We'll find out pretty soon if the Horns have a shot at winning the Big 12. They host OU, then run the Big 12 gauntlet in the five games after that:

vs. A&M
at Kansas
at Oklahoma State
vs. Mizzou
at A&M

4-1 would be excellent for that stretch, but 3-2 is more likely.

[Matthean]

MSU beats Wisconsin in OT.

[panerd]

Texas gets their conference play off to a great start with a 83-52 dismantling of Texas Tech in Lubbock.

We'll find out pretty soon if the Horns have a shot at winning the Big 12. They host OU, then run the Big 12 gauntlet in the five games after that:

vs. A&M
at Kansas
at Oklahoma State
vs. Mizzou
at A&M

4-1 would be excellent for that stretch, but 3-2 is more likely.

So beating KU would be excellent eh? :)