Official 2010-11 College Basketball Thread

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Ping MU fans.....good article about Otto Porter......

Otto Porter is the best player no one knows about. - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6014589)

[MizzouRah]

Great article, great win tonight.

[cartman]

And then there were four. Duke falls from the ranks of the unbeaten, losing to Florida State 66-61.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Goodness, guess Colorado won't sneak up on anyone anymore. Beat Mizzou in the opener and just beat Kansas State in Manhattan. 2-0 in conference play.

[Izulde]

Fucking aggravating loss UNLV had to SDSU tonight. The cold streak at the start of the second half killed the Runnin' Rebels.

[Ksyrup]

Ain't that just like FSU...lose to Auburn, who at one point was on track to be the worst-rated Big 6 conference team in the history of rankings (and maybe still are?), drop another to VT, and then upset #1. They always do this. If they could pput together 1 consistent season where they win nearly every game they are supposed to and addin a couple of upsets like this, maybe they could make a run. Instead, they'll follow this up with a couple more stinkers, finish with 19-20 wins, and bitch about how they got left on the bubble but should have made it for beating baylor and Duke.

They are (and have been) one of the best defensive teams in college basketball. They just have absolutely no capacity to score at all. Last night they got lucky and actually scored more than 50-55 points for a change.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Very good article for those who haven't read it yet.

Billy Donovan's Secret Sorrow | ThePostGame (http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201101/billy-donovans-secret-sorrow)

[jbergey22]

Ain't that just like FSU...lose to Auburn, who at one point was on track to be the worst-rated Big 6 conference team in the history of rankings (and maybe still are?), drop another to VT, and then upset #1. They always do this. If they could pput together 1 consistent season where they win nearly every game they are supposed to and addin a couple of upsets like this, maybe they could make a run. Instead, they'll follow this up with a couple more stinkers, finish with 19-20 wins, and bitch about how they got left on the bubble but should have made it for beating baylor and Duke.

They are (and have been) one of the best defensive teams in college basketball. They just have absolutely no capacity to score at all. Last night they got lucky and actually scored more than 50-55 points for a change.

Yeah, that Auburn loss makes no sense. Florida State is much too good to be losing them games. If Kitchen is hitting his shots Florida State is a top 20 team. Too often is seems Singleton has to do too much.

[Ksyrup]

Solomon Alabi had no reason to go to the NBA last year. Add him to this team and they would be scary. They still need a Toney Douglas/Al Thornton type scorer. And they still throw too many possessions away with stupid turnovers. I would be beyond pissed to work that hard on the defensive end and then 10 seconds later throw the ball out of bounds. They are just flat-out inept on offense. If this was football, I'd suggest Hamilton fire his OC and bring in someone else!

[MJ4H]

The loss to LSU last night was a complete facepalm.jpg for a team that just beat Tennessee. This will cause some unrest for the Pelphrey haters.

[wade moore]

The loss to LSU last night was a complete facepalm.jpg for a team that just beat Tennessee. This will cause some unrest for the Pelphrey haters.

I'm not sure beating Tennessee is that big of a deal at this point, unfortunately.

[MJ4H]

I'm not sure beating Tennessee is that big of a deal at this point, unfortunately.

Well, it was clearly over Arkansas's head.
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[Radii]

UNC with another super ugly conference win(64-61). Malcolm Delany goes 7-11 from 3, seems like he always lights it up against Carolina, but after starting 5-5 from 3 and 10-18 from the field Va Tech was ice cold for the last 6 minutes of the first half and the entire second half.

Harrison Barnes scored 8 key points in the final few minutes to redeem himself from an otherwise awful game. 6 turnovers, most of them very poor giveaways leading to easy baskets. UNC 7-17 from the line, Va Tech 8-15. Great stuff!

John Henson was great for UNC tonight but he's a ~30% free throw shooter and they have to pull him off the court at the end. Larry Drew was on the bench at the end too with Kendall Marshall running the show, I'm thrilled to see that.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Good lord. Tried to watch the Oregon game last night, but started feeling ill. That court is disorienting. It's like looking at a fun house mirror for a couple hours.

[tyketime]

UNC with another super ugly conference win(64-61).

I don't get how Roy puts up with this crap. Poor free throw shooting is inexcusable. Period! Keep their asses after practice if you have to and make them shoot again and again and again. I know damn well Dean would have straightened this FT shooting mess out.

[spleen1015]

All is right in the college basketball universe when UNC sucks. :D

Go Duke.

[Butter]

Great finishes already today between Louisville-Marquette and Tennessee-Vandy. Nice start to the day.

[jbergey22]

Duke is struggling without Irving.

It would be hard to bet against them come tourny time however teams that depend as heavily on the outside shot as much as they do could disappoint down the road.

I really like that Ohio State team. They are long, athletic, can shoot and have one of the best post players in college hoops.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Vols come from 17 down to beat Vandy in Tony Jones first game as (temporary) head coach. I think Pat Summitt may have been coaching as hard as Jones for a good bit of the game & definitely got the crowd into what had been a rout.

[Butter]

Mizzou with a bad last minute of OT to lose at A&M.

[panerd]

Mizzou with a bad last minute of OT to lose at A&M.

+ new travelling rules in college basketball

[Butter]

Has Mizzou ever lost a game that their fans don't believe the refs stole from them?

[MrBug708]

Ya..the one where Tyus Edney stole the game from them. :)

[panerd]

Ya..the one where Tyus Edney stole the game from them. :)

Hey I thought the refs stole the KU game from UCLA also but I realize your hatred of MBBF has to make you latch onto any Mizzou post. Watch the end of OT in todays game on the fast break where the A&M player takes 1 or 2 steps, ducks under a defender, stops, and then takes 1 or 2 more steps. I thought I was watching Michael Jordan (and the 4 step rule) out there.

It definitely would have helped if we could actually make our free throws. (Or shoot 19 more in a 2 point OT game) But yeah the officiating was pretty even there.

[Chief Rum]

Hey I thought the refs stole the KU game from UCLA also but I realize your hatred of MBBF has to make you latch onto any Mizzou post.

Rather unfair, considering Bug responding to Butter about games involving Mizzou. Unless I missed something, you're talking about KU-UCLA and I don't believe Mizzou was involved.

[cartman]

Texas holds OU to a season-low point total in a 66-46 win. As I mentioned a couple of days ago, now comes a rough 5 game conference stretch.

[RedKingGold]

Villanova comes back from a double digit defecit with less than ten minutes to go in he second half to beat Maryland.

The Big East is stacked this by year. Ive been following the conference more and more over the past five years, but this is the best top to bottom its been in awhile.

[MrBug708]

Hey I thought the refs stole the KU game from UCLA also but I realize your hatred of MBBF has to make you latch onto any Mizzou post. Watch the end of OT in todays game on the fast break where the A&M player takes 1 or 2 steps, ducks under a defender, stops, and then takes 1 or 2 more steps. I thought I was watching Michael Jordan (and the 4 step rule) out there.

It definitely would have helped if we could actually make our free throws. (Or shoot 19 more in a 2 point OT game) But yeah the officiating was pretty even there.

I just wanted to insert an Edney post. Don't believe the conspiracy theories :)

[jbergey22]

Villanova comes back from a double digit defecit with less than ten minutes to go in he second half to beat Maryland.

The Big East is stacked this by year. Ive been following the conference more and more over the past five years, but this is the best top to bottom its been in awhile.

Really? Other than Pitt are there really any championship contenders?

I remember 2-3 years ago it seem half the conference was in the top 25. I think it was 2009 and the Big East had Louisville, UConn, Pitt, and West Virginia as all great teams.

[terpkristin]

Villanova comes back from a double digit defecit with less than ten minutes to go in he second half to beat Maryland.

I think that's going to be a common theme for Maryland this year. We're a fairly young team, and I think we have a bit to learn about staying in the game when we get a lead. This is similar to how we played against Duke. We are now like 0-4 (0-3?) against ranked teams, but I will say we looked good for the most part against Duke and Nova. I'm optimistic for the future of this squad, we just need to grow up a bit.

/tk

[molson]

Really? Other than Pitt are there really any championship contenders?

I remember 2-3 years ago it seem half the conference was in the top 25. I think it was 2009 and the Big East had Louisville, UConn, Pitt, and West Virginia as all great teams.

Half the AP top 10 is Big East teams. I don't know how many teams people would consider "championship contenders" at this point but that's a lot of top 10 teams from one conference. (and currently, half the conference - 8 teams - are in the top 25)

[Matthean]

Second straight OT win for MSU. Both were at home so now comes the fun part of @Ill and @Purdue. Of MSU's last 13 games, 5 of them are on the road against ranked teams and a double bill with Michigan who can be frisky enough at times to be an issue. If they want to win the conference, now would be a good time to start putting it together.

[RedKingGold]

Really? Other than Pitt are there really any championship contenders?

I remember 2-3 years ago it seem half the conference was in the top 25. I think it was 2009 and the Big East had Louisville, UConn, Pitt, and West Virginia as all great teams.

Best "top to bottom" it's been in awhile. The dirty secret of the Big East is that it's been pretty top heavy the past few years, with the top eight having the talent to make a final four run when the bottom eight would struggle to go .500 in a mid major conference.

With UConns sudden reemergence, St. Johns solid incoming class, and Cincinnati and Seton Hall playing relatively well of late, 12 of the 16 Big East teams could be legitimate at large tournament invites

[panerd]

Rather unfair, considering Bug responding to Butter about games involving Mizzou. Unless I missed something, you're talking about KU-UCLA and I don't believe Mizzou was involved.

I knew that Bug was a UCLA fan and I think UCLA got jobbed by terrible officating against KU. Just like I felt Mizzou got jobbed today. Just showing that I call them like I see them. :)

[Swaggs]

Best "top to bottom" it's been in awhile. The dirty secret of the Big East is that it's been pretty top heavy the past few years, with the top eight having the talent to make a final four run when the bottom eight would struggle to go .500 in a mid major conference.

With UConns sudden reemergence, St. Johns solid incoming class, and Cincinnati and Seton Hall playing relatively well of late, 12 of the 16 Big East teams could be legitimate at large tournament invites

Agreed.

I have been looking at WVU's schedule for the past week or ten days, trying to figure out how we get to 20-22 wins (and presumably off the bubble) and it is hard to find many near-automatic wins on it, other than the handful of home games left against the bottom 4 or 5 in the conference. In past years you could pretty much mark down wins against 6-8 teams period and then another 2-4 if you had them at home, but this season is pretty strong, top to bottom.

We have Purdue at home tomorrow and I am hoping and wishing that we can win that one and then get to double digit wins in the Big East (I think it will be tough for us this season, unless the team really improves quickly).

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

+ new travelling rules in college basketball

It was a brutal miss on that travel in OT, but Mizzou has no one to blame but themselves for the loss. Denmon's poor decision in regulation and brutal FT shooting by MU were the reason we lost. Not too worried about it. Mizzou's playing very well right now despite the 1-2 start with two road losses. They'll be just fine.

[jbergey22]

It was a brutal miss on that travel in OT, but Mizzou has no one to blame but themselves for the loss. Denmon's poor decision in regulation and brutal FT shooting by MU were the reason we lost. Not too worried about it. Mizzou's playing very well right now despite the 1-2 start with two road losses. They'll be just fine.

I was much more impressed with them playing a very good team tough on the road today than I was letting a Nebraska team that hadnt played a true road game come back on them a few times before they pulled it out. Mizzou usually crushes teams like that at home.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I was much more impressed with them playing a very good team tough on the road today than I was letting a Nebraska team that hadnt played a true road game come back on them a few times before they pulled it out. Mizzou usually crushes teams like that at home.

Nebraska nearly beat Kansas in Allen Fieldhouse today. I'm starting to wonder if there's a gimmie in this league after the early play of Colorado and Nebraska thus far. OU and TT are probably the weakest teams from what we've seen thus far. CU and NU have made big steps.

[MizzouRah]

It was a brutal miss on that travel in OT, but Mizzou has no one to blame but themselves for the loss. Denmon's poor decision in regulation and brutal FT shooting by MU were the reason we lost. Not too worried about it. Mizzou's playing very well right now despite the 1-2 start with two road losses. They'll be just fine.

Yeah, FT's killed this team today, but it was a good game to watch.

[Chubby]

Really? Other than Pitt are there really any championship contenders?

I remember 2-3 years ago it seem half the conference was in the top 25. I think it was 2009 and the Big East had Louisville, UConn, Pitt, and West Virginia as all great teams.

Yeah, that Big East team ranked above Pitt that is still undefeated

[jbergey22]

Yeah, that Big East team ranked above Pitt that is still undefeated

Ahhh yes! I keep forgetting they are undefeated.

I am probably just underestimating the Big East this year since it seemed so many teams lost some great players from last year and really only Pitt was considered a National Contender in most previews I read.

[Atocep]

WVU with a huge win over Purdue.

This isn't close to Huggins' best team at WVU and going into the season I would have been happy with just making the tourney, but this team has proven they can play with anyone with wins over Vandy, Georgetown, and now Purdue.

Next year will be just as interesting as it's basically be a bunch of freshman + Kevin Jones with Truck and Kilicli helping as well. After that things should get really interesting in Morgantown. Hugg's just missed on several recruits last year (Tobias Harris is the one that hurts) and right now there isn't a scholarship freshman in uniform, but recruiting has picked up considerably since.

[Swaggs]

Huggs is earning his money this season. Purdue clearly had the two most talented guys on the floor today, but WVU defended and rebounded really well all game, hung around, and pulled ahead at the end. I am pretty glad the game ended when it did, as another few minutes and it would have been tough to win, IMO.

Glad to get that one under our belt, as it will look good on selection Sunday.

[Radii]

Embarrassing performance by UNC tonight. Shumpert and Rice were on fire even when defended well for Ga Tech, but UNC was completely inept with the ball. Credit Tech with 13 "steals" but I would estimate as many as 8 of those were UNC bigs unable to catch the ball and UNC guards unable to pass the ball. Throw in 5 or 6 missed layups and the fact that Larry Drew continues to start over Kendall Marshall and you have a complete and utter disaster.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Surprised there's no chatter in this thread about the great slate of games on ESPN today. Nova-UConn is going down to the wire. Mizzou-KSU next with Syr-Pitt and KU-Baylor later tonight.

I'm very happy to be home taking care of the kids tonight. :)

[terpkristin]

Surprised there's no chatter in this thread about the great slate of games on ESPN today. Nova-UConn is going down to the wire. Mizzou-KSU next with Syr-Pitt and KU-Baylor later tonight.

I'm very happy to be home taking care of the kids tonight. :)

And I'm sad that I'm still more or less stuck at my parents' place, since they watch a TON of really bad TV but no sports. :(

/tk

[sterlingice]

How sad is it that I have Comcast's cheapest tier and it doesn't get ESPN. Seriously.

But I do get ESPN3 so it's all good :)

SI

[yacovfb]

This game is taking way too long. Can they please stop fouling every 15 seconds so I can catch the start of the Pitt game?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

cuse off to a good start... fart noise

i have yet to watch a game this year where fab melo doesn't get subbed in the first 3 minutes. freshman of the year indeed.

[MizzouRah]

Good game for Mizzou.. Pitt off to a huge lead...

[miami_fan]

Surprised there's no chatter in this thread about the great slate of games on ESPN today. Nova-UConn is going down to the wire. Mizzou-KSU next with Syr-Pitt and KU-Baylor later tonight.

I'm very happy to be home taking care of the kids tonight. :)

This is outstanding prep for tourney time!

[sterlingice]

I'm a bit worried about this game- seems like we might go light against a dangerous, long team on the road

SI

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Good game for Mizzou.

I'll tell you what. Phil Pressey is quickly emerging as a superstar on this team. This kid may be the best PG we've had since Melvin Booker. He's unbelievable and is only going to get better.

Amazing that we only have one senior on the entire team.

[MizzouRah]

I'll tell you what. Phil Pressey is quickly emerging as a superstar on this team. This kid may be the best PG we've had since Melvin Booker. He's unbelievable and is only going to get better.

Amazing that we only have one senior on the entire team.

Yes sir, this kid is improving at a rapid pace!

[sterlingice]

Wow. It's so fun to watch a game where you just can't miss. I mean, geez- 74% shooting in the first half!

SI

[sterlingice]

I'm a bit worried about this game- seems like we might go light against a dangerous, long team on the road

SI

Guess I was wrong. Glad to be wrong

SI

[DataKing]

Glad to see KU play at least close to their potential last night. Yes, they had to weather a little bit of a storm early in the second half from a talented Baylor team, but they appeared to do so with relative ease.

[MizzouRah]

Kansas is scary... very good...

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Kansas is scary... very good...

The interesting part is that the B12 South appears to be the division with the 'gimmie' wins this year. In the past, it's always been Colorado and Nebraska. MU and KU could always count on winning at least three games each year against those two opponents. It appears that Texas Tech and OU are those two teams this year. The North teams are going to have to earn a title this year. No gimmies in the North this year.

[sterlingice]

Kansas is scary... very good...

To be fair, that was the best half of basketball you will see us play all year. I mean, again, we hit 74% in the first half and everyone, especially the Morris twins, were just feeling it. That's not to say KU isn't good. It's just that last night's first half is the absolute ceiling.

Baylor is a good team but no one stops KU when they're that accurate. But that's true of most of the teams in the top 10. If Ohio State or Duke or Syracuse or Pitt or whoever is making shots like that, no one can beat them.

SI

[DataKing]

In all honesty, part of the blame for the first half needs to fall on Baylor's; defense. That zone was extremely passive to start the game...and you saw how disruptive it could be early in the second half when the Baylor players actually started moving their feet. With their length and athleticism, that zone should be able to give a lot of teams fits, a-la the Boeheim zone.

[molson]

i have yet to watch a game this year where fab melo doesn't get subbed in the first 3 minutes. freshman of the year indeed.

He lasted less than 2 minutes in this one, and then never got back in. Baye Moussa Keita replaced him, but Boheim got sick of him after 5 minutes and pulled him too, never to return. He just went with a small lineup the rest of the way. Boehim's testing these kids' characters.

On the upside as far as freshman though, C.J. Fair came in about 4 minutes into the game, and then never left, and was the leading scorer. (and 'Cuse actually outscored Pitt in those last 36 minutes, when Fair was in there).

Haven't heard anything about Kris Joseph's head injury. If this was football I'd assume he'd be done for the year, but I don't know if the modern concussion precautions have emerged in basketball.

I don't see 'Cuse as an elite team at all, but the surprising streak to start the season should propel them to at least a decent tournament seed.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Ping Mizzou fans. Nice article on Marcus Denmon and family......

Putting others first is second nature for Missouri Tigers junior Marcus Denmon and his family - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=oneil_dana&id=6034166)

[cartman]

I have a feeling that tonight's Texas-Texas A&M match up is going to be a low scoring, defensive battle. Should be a great game.

[cartman]

Awesome win for the 'Horns. They looked very impressive in an 81-60 win over Texas A&M, which came in to the game on a 13 game win streak. Next up, a trip on Saturday to Phog Allen to play Kansas.

[digamma]

It's sort of weird. I'm a little scared that this GT team is going to improve a decent amount over the season just from playing together more. There are some good pieces--Rice and Oliver in particular. I had written off this season as the one that had to happen to get someone to pony up the money to buy out Hewitt. But, in a weak ACC, they may be too good by the end of the season. Maybe CPH can mess it up.

Granted Wake is really bad, but a 74-39 win to follow a 20 point victory over UNC makes me re-wonder.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Awesome win for the 'Horns. They looked very impressive in an 81-60 win over Texas A&M, which came in to the game on a 13 game win streak. Next up, a trip on Saturday to Phog Allen to play Kansas.

Texas is a head-scratcher of a team. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they lose their next four. Three road games (KU, A&M, OSU) and a home game against Mizzou who they haven't beaten in over four years.

[Ksyrup]

Man, FSU set a new low of ugly basketball last night, and somehow came out of it with a win over Miami and a 4-1 ACC record. They are probably the most impressive defensive team I've seen. But man...they are just ugly as hell. They didn't score a basketball for the first 10 minutes of the game, shot 19% in the first half, missed 10 of 12 free throws in the second half, and yet the D kept them in the game, they went on a 12-0 run with about 5-6 minutes left to take the lead, and hung on 55-53. I almost put a bag over the TV it was so ugly.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Saw that Iowa State never made it back to Ames last night after their game in Stillwater. They were rerouted to Columbia, MO and will just stay there until after their game against MU on Saturday.

[panerd]

Saw that Iowa State never made it back to Ames last night after their game in Stillwater. They were rerouted to Columbia, MO and will just stay there until after their game against MU on Saturday.

My sister-in-law is a hotel manager in Columbia and knows a lot of the people in the "business". Let me see if I can get her to make some late night wake up calls the next two nights. :)

It looks like basically everyone except for TTech and OU (and maybe K-State?) are going to be halfway decent this season. Iowa State should have won last night in Stillwater. Don't know what to expect from the Tigers in conference play anymore I could reasonaly see anywhere from 8-8 to 12-4.

PS: What game were you sporting me tickets for? :) (Luckily for you we never made that bet!)

[cartman]

Nebraska nearly beat Kansas in Allen Fieldhouse today. I'm starting to wonder if there's a gimmie in this league after the early play of Colorado and Nebraska thus far. OU and TT are probably the weakest teams from what we've seen thus far. CU and NU have made big steps.

Yes, this sounds about right. The conference does seem stronger top to bottom than in years past. Yes, OU and TT have suffered bad conference losses to a certain team at this point, but strange the poster doesn't mention that team.

The interesting part is that the B12 South appears to be the division with the 'gimmie' wins this year. In the past, it's always been Colorado and Nebraska. MU and KU could always count on winning at least three games each year against those two opponents. It appears that Texas Tech and OU are those two teams this year. The North teams are going to have to earn a title this year. No gimmies in the North this year.

Yes, Kansas has been the 2 ton gorilla of the conference during this time, winning at least a share of 6 straight conference regular season Big 12 championships, a share of at least 10 overall since the conference founding. However, the other team mentioned, Mizzou, has never won even a share of the regular season title. There is however another team that is 2nd to Kansas in this category that is glossed over.

Texas is a head-scratcher of a team. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they lose their next four. Three road games (KU, A&M, OSU) and a home game against Mizzou who they haven't beaten in over four years.

Ah, there you have it. Any Texas success is a 'head scratcher'. I'll concede that the loss to USC was definitely a head scratcher, compared to the overall body of work displayed so far this season.

[dawgfan]

Good win for Washington tonight beating Arizona 85-68 at home to solidify their hold on first place in the Pac-10. Losing Gaddy for the year was a bummer, but it may turn out to be a blessing in disguise given the way Isaiah Thomas has embraced the PG role. IT is starting to gain some believers among NBA scouts...

[sterlingice]

Yes, this sounds about right. The conference does seem stronger top to bottom than in years past. Yes, OU and TT have suffered bad conference losses to a certain team at this point, but strange the poster doesn't mention that team.



Yes, Kansas has been the 2 ton gorilla of the conference during this time, winning at least a share of 6 straight conference regular season Big 12 championships, a share of at least 10 overall since the conference founding. However, the other team mentioned, Mizzou, has never won even a share of the regular season title. There is however another team that is 2nd to Kansas in this category that is glossed over.



Ah, there you have it. Any Texas success is a 'head scratcher'. I'll concede that the loss to USC was definitely a head scratcher, compared to the overall body of work displayed so far this season.

Is it Kansas State? It's Kansas State, right? ;)

SI

[jbergey22]

Texas is a head-scratcher of a team. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they lose their next four. Three road games (KU, A&M, OSU) and a home game against Mizzou who they haven't beaten in over four years.

Nothing head scratching about Texas. They are one of the top teams in the nation right now.

They should handle Okie St on the road and Mizzou at home relatively easy. I really doubt they will lose 4 in a row(3 of the teams ranked below them in the latest KenPom ratings)

Your Mizzou team, which has been historically a much worse road team than home team has all of one true road win this year which was a 3 point victory at lowly Oregon. I have a hard time believing they will go into Texas and win.

I am thinking you are either over excited about Missouri or underrating a very difficult team.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Nothing head scratching about Texas. They are one of the top teams in the nation right now.

They should handle Okie St on the road and Mizzou at home relatively easy. I really doubt they will lose 4 in a row(3 of the teams ranked below them in the latest KenPom ratings)

Your Mizzou team, which has been historically a much worse road team than home team has all of one true road win this year which was a 3 point victory at lowly Oregon. I have a hard time believing they will go into Texas and win.

I am thinking you are either over excited about Missouri or underrating a very difficult team.

I think you are underestimating the home court advantage in the Big 12 conference. Road wins are scarce in this conference and this year is no different.

MU won the last time they went into Texas. I agree it's a tall task either way. But the other three games are definitely in question.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Thought I'd toss this video up since Mizzou is playing ISU this weekend. Great video for those who aren't a Vitale fan.......

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[MJ4H]

Rumor is that BJ Young made the required test score on his ACT and is now "good to go." Obviously he will need to finish well in his classes, but pretty good for someone with almost zero chance to qualify.

Hopefully this is true.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Rumor is that BJ Young made the required test score on his ACT and is now "good to go." Obviously he will need to finish well in his classes, but pretty good for someone with almost zero chance to qualify.

Hopefully this is true.

Pretty sure the grades/core classes were the reason most schools backed off. Problem as of last year was that he had to do VERY well in his remaining few core classes to make up for his grades on already completed core classes.

[MJ4H]

Yep, and he is on track in those as well. Thus the "good to go." His problem was a late start, not a lack of ability. He didn't take it seriously until he realized he needed to to get into college.

[jbergey22]

I think you are underestimating the home court advantage in the Big 12 conference. Road wins are scarce in this conference and this year is no different.

MU won the last time they went into Texas. I agree it's a tall task either way. But the other three games are definitely in question.

Its tough to win on the road in most conferences. I wouldnt just single out the Big 12 on that one. My point was Texas is playing like one of the top 10 teams in the nation right now so seeing them drop 4 in a row is very unlikely IMO.

No disrespect indended here but that Mizzou team 2 years ago with Carroll and Lyons that won in Texas was a great team while this years team is a step back IMO.

[Karlifornia]

Am I the only one sick of Syracuse going undefeated in non-conference play simply because they play every single game at home every single year?

[jbergey22]

Am I the only one sick of Syracuse going undefeated in non-conference play simply because they play every single game at home every single year?

Nope. Its hard to get a read on that program until about mid February every single year.

[Butter]

Ohio State with a nice road win at Illinois today, fighting back from 50-42 down midway through the 2nd half to hand the Illini their first home loss of the season.

The talking heads keep talking up Demetri McCamey, but I rarely see the brilliance when I tune in to the Illini games. Maybe he eats up the weak competition and just doesn't have what it takes against the top tier teams, but I didn't see much from him today.

[Logan]

I know it isn't important in the national scene, but a really nice road win for Rutgers over Seton Hall. We were horrible from the FT line, it could have been a blowout. Mike Rice has these guys playing great defense.

[cartman]

Geez, Texas can't hit the broad side of the barn right now. They are lucky to only be down 12 at the half. This is by far their worst half of shooting this season. And credit Kansas for forcing Texas into a flurry of turnovers at the end of the half when the Longhorns looked like they might cut the lead to single digits.

[jbergey22]

Bad T call in the Texas/KU game. Texas had gotten a little mo and quick whistled refs changed in back in favor of KU in a big hurry.

I guess it didnt really matter. Texas took complete control in the 2nd half.

[cartman]

Texas snaps KU's 69 game home win streak with an incredibly impressive 2nd half, coming from 12 down at the half to win by 11, 74-63. Not many teams have ever done that on KU's home court.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Pretty impressive stuff from Texas. I was waiting for the young players on Texas to fold. Instead, the young players on KU were the ones making the crucial mistakes.

I didn't think UT would win that one, but it certainly was enjoyable to see the long faces in the KU student section. Looked like they all just had their puppy taken away.

[sterlingice]

Didn't get to see the game today but we needed that. It's a loss at home and the fun streak is gone. But it's to a darn good team and this should help Self get the attention of the guys again. We weren't going to go undefeated and this is one of those games where he can point to a lot of things they were able to get away with and win in the last couple of weeks but not against a good team like Texas.

SI

[cartman]

I wouldn't want to trade places with Kansas' Thomas Robinson. He found out last night that his mother died suddenly of a heart attack. He decided to fight through that and be with his teammates on the court today. This comes on the heels of losing both a grandmother and grandfather in the past couple of months. I lost both of my paternal grandparents in the span of a couple of weeks, and I can't imagine how I would have reacted if I'd lost my mom as well. Condolences to him and his family.

[MacroGuru]

Jimmer scores 42 as BYU wins at CSU tonight..Sold out place and hostile towards Jimmer.

Jimmer is the only DIV I player with 2 40 point games this season..

I'm telling you, BYU is a solid team this year and no one is able to watch them because of the bullshit MWC TV Deal..

[cartman]

Jimmer scores 42 as BYU wins at CSU tonight..Sold out place and hostile towards Jimmer.

Jimmer is the only DIV I player with 2 40 point games this season..

I'm telling you, BYU is a solid team this year and no one is able to watch them because of the bullshit MWC TV Deal..

That BYU-SDSU game on Wednesday is gonna be must see TV.

[Matthean]

MSU continues their pattern of underperforming. They have yet to beat a ranked team on the road, and IIRC they have one win against a ranked team. If this continues, it will be one of the bigger head scratchers how this team underperformed to this level. Even with Izzo's tournament record, there's going to be some serious changing of gears for this team to do something as a dark horse #5-6 in the tourney.

[MizzouRah]

Texas snaps KU's 69 game home win streak with an incredibly impressive 2nd half, coming from 12 down at the half to win by 11, 74-63. Not many teams have ever done that on KU's home court.

Congrats Cartman, great game by Texas!

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

Am I the only one sick of Syracuse going undefeated in non-conference play simply because they play every single game at home every single year?
despite popular belief new jersey and rhode island aren't in syracuse. neither is msg although pundits seem to think a ten hour round trip is just outside city limits.

[MacroGuru]

That BYU-SDSU game on Wednesday is gonna be must see TV.

Yeah and it will either be on VS or CBSC...

[Karlifornia]

despite popular belief new jersey and rhode island aren't in syracuse. neither is msg although pundits seem to think a ten hour round trip is just outside city limits.

LOL..Oh, I'm sorry...I guess Syracuse is just racking up the frequent bus rider miles.

[Izulde]

UNLV had a shit loss against Colorado State earlier this week and barely nipped New Mexico by a point yesterday.

The lack of a truly legitimate post presence really hurts.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

LOL..Oh, I'm sorry...I guess Syracuse is just racking up the frequent bus rider miles.
pitt's sched is worse. they've had a couple games at msg(which is the same 5 hour drive as syr) but otherwise haven't left penn. i'm sure there are other teams but that's off the top of my head.

if sdsu plays in san fran is that a home game? cause somehow that logic applies in ny.

cuse has a top 5 rpi with 2 acc games and 2 big ten games 3 of which were played on neutral courts.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Ruling from the NCAA concerning Tony Mitchell's academic eligibility is supposed to come today or tomorrow. Possible results are that:

-enrolls and joins Mizzou roster immediately
-eligible in fall 2011
-permanently ineligible

We'll see what happens.

[mauchow]

The Badgers true freshman, Josh Gasser picks up the 1st ever Triple Double in Wisconsin Badger History. Kenpom had the Badgers winning by 1, instead they win by 30+. Big win for the Badgers on the road. The Badgers were a 9 point lead, 2 minute meltdown at E. Lansing from just having 1 loss in conference play. Ah, well, it doesn't look like it's going to matter anyway as Ohio St looks like they'll run away with the conference. Purdue and Wisconsin will be fighting for second at this rate.

[molson]

LOL..Oh, I'm sorry...I guess Syracuse is just racking up the frequent bus rider miles.

Boeheim knows how to schedule. The best way to manipulate the RPI is get off to a good start W/L wise, get a couple of wins against decent major conference teams (at home or neutral sites is fine), and a couple of wins against some decent mid-majors that should finish in the top 100 or so (at home or neutral sites is fine), but nothing too taxing before Big East play starts. Then when you're in conference, you have a decent margin for error (and PLENTY of opportunities to pick up quality road wins).

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Boy, this BJ Young saga just continues to get crazier and crazier. Over the weekend, he was ejected for the third time this season. It's the second time he's punched another player during a game.

This kid needs more than a college scholarship. He needs some serious counseling or he's going to be in a jail cell facing assault charges rather than a college dorm room next year.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Hard to believe it's been 23 years!



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And the obligatory link, because embedding never, ever, ever, ever works for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i0FdOAg9eg

[Butter]

That was pretty awesome. I remember watching that game, because there was only one ESPN back then, and only like 30 channels.

[whomario]

i´ve actually never seen that before, that was a true "wtf" moment :popcorn: Has anyone ever determined why it happened ? That glass seemed to break awfully easy and instantly :confused:

speaking of Pittsburgh, they just lost to Notre Dame who finally win a tough game on the road this year.
That game was sloooooow ... (combined only 84 FGs and 29 FTs)
The smaller Hansbrough was impressive, tough competitive kid.

[Suburban Rhythm]

That was pretty awesome. I remember watching that game, because there was only one ESPN back then, and only like 30 channels.

Yep...I was 11, nearly 12. I had an old 13" TV in my room, and thought that was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen.

[Suburban Rhythm]

i´ve actually never seen that before, that was a true "wtf" moment :popcorn: Has anyone ever determined why it happened ? That glass seemed to break awfully easy and instantly :confused:

speaking of Pittsburgh, they just lost to Notre Dame who finally win a tough game on the road this year.
That game was sloooooow ... (combined only 84 FGs and 29 FTs)
The smaller Hansbrough was impressive, tough competitive kid.

Jerome Lane is freakishly strong!

And yes, that game was hard to watch last night.

[henry296]

My dad was at the Jerome Lane game at the old Fitzgerald Field House with seats near the court at the end of the court.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

As a Big 12 fan, I'd like to apologize to the rest of the nation that the KSU-Baylor game was shown nationally last night. Having to watch a coach who doesn't know how to coach (Drew) and a coach who has totally lost his players (Martin) was brutal and that's being kind. Bob Knight acted like he was ready to leave five minutes into the game and rightfully so.

[cartman]

This should be pretty cool. Michigan State and North Carolina are tentatively scheduled to play each other next season in San Diego... on an aircraft carrier! On Veteran's Day as well.

Roy Williams confirms UNC-Mich. State game on aircraft carrier - Campus Rivalry: College Football & Basketball News, Recruiting, Game Picks, and More - USATODAY.com (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/01/aircraft-carrier-north-carolina-michigan-state-roy-williams/1)

[dawgfan]

This should be pretty cool. Michigan State and North Carolina are tentatively scheduled to play each other next season in San Diego... on an aircraft carrier! On Veteran's Day as well.

Roy Williams confirms UNC-Mich. State game on aircraft carrier - Campus Rivalry: College Football & Basketball News, Recruiting, Game Picks, and More - USATODAY.com (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/01/aircraft-carrier-north-carolina-michigan-state-roy-williams/1)
Very cool! Kudos to both schools for doing this...

[Logan]

Syracuse is completely shitting the bed against Seton Hall, down 17 in the Carrier Dome with about 7 minutes left.

[Scoobz0202]

How would I find out who is calling the Ohio State - Purdue game for ESPN. Trying to pass the time.

Hope it's not Dicky V.

[sterlingice]

This should be pretty cool. Michigan State and North Carolina are tentatively scheduled to play each other next season in San Diego... on an aircraft carrier! On Veteran's Day as well.

Roy Williams confirms UNC-Mich. State game on aircraft carrier - Campus Rivalry: College Football & Basketball News, Recruiting, Game Picks, and More - USATODAY.com (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/01/aircraft-carrier-north-carolina-michigan-state-roy-williams/1)

Ok- wacky idea but kindof cool

SI

[Swaggs]

This should be pretty cool. Michigan State and North Carolina are tentatively scheduled to play each other next season in San Diego... on an aircraft carrier! On Veteran's Day as well.

Roy Williams confirms UNC-Mich. State game on aircraft carrier - Campus Rivalry: College Football & Basketball News, Recruiting, Game Picks, and More - USATODAY.com (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/01/aircraft-carrier-north-carolina-michigan-state-roy-williams/1)

That sounds awesome.

[Wolfpack]

If the Sidney Lowe job watch wasn't in full swing before, it's definitely on now. State threatened to run Clemson out of Littlejohn early, getting up 31-12 at one point, but totally and utterly fell apart after that. Clemson cut the lead to 34-29 by halftime (that's a 17-3 run if you're counting) and then dominated the second half (such as it was, both teams looked hideous on offense) and actually won fairly comfortably, 60-50.

What was expected to be a potential corner-turning season especially in a pillow-soft ACC has instead turned into yet another slog toward a below-.500 ACC record and maybe an NIT berth for the fun of it. The fan base is getting very restless at this point (and no, this should not be taken in any way, shape, or form that there's any remorse about Sendek and what happened with him -- quite the contrary, the overwhelming majority are still glad he's not here and there are still threads and flame wars over his current job success or lack thereof at Arizona State as people seem hellbent on justifying their positions on his job performance when he was here five years ago).

[Matthean]

Korie Lucious dismissed from Michigan State Spartans for conduct detrimental to team - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6059518)

Spartans' season of woe continues.

[Logan]

Can't believe I'm excited to stay up to watch a game on CBS College Sports tonight. Haven't seen a lick of SDSU so should be interesting.

[jbergey22]

As a Big 12 fan, I'd like to apologize to the rest of the nation that the KSU-Baylor game was shown nationally last night. Having to watch a coach who doesn't know how to coach (Drew) and a coach who has totally lost his players (Martin) was brutal and that's being kind. Bob Knight acted like he was ready to leave five minutes into the game and rightfully so.

Hasnt Drew turned a program that had been in the shitter for a lot of years into a great eight program just last year?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Hasnt Drew turned a program that had been in the shitter for a lot of years into a great eight program just last year?

He's one of the best recruiters in the nation. He's also proven that he can regularly fail to coach a team well in crucial situations. Put the current team and talent in the hands of Self, Anderson, Barnes, even Doc Sadler and you have a top 10 team rather than an unranked mess.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Local reports that Tony Mitchell will enroll at North Texas. B12 doesn't allow partial qualifiers. He should have done that at the start of the year. Will be interesting to see if he transfers to Mizzou at the end of the year once his transcript is in order.

[panerd]

Local reports that Tony Mitchell will enroll at North Texas. B12 doesn't allow partial qualifiers. He should have done that at the start of the year. Will be interesting to see if he transfers to Mizzou at the end of the year once his transcript is in order.

Is he going to play this year for them?

[Butter]

Ohio State is starting to remind me of the Mike Conley/Greg Oden team of just a few years ago. No depth, but the players they do have are all among the tops in the nation at their positions. I don't think they'll go undefeated, but they should make a heck of a run in the NCAA's.

[MizzouRah]

It's going to be a tough bracket to fill out this year. :)

[Logan]

Thought I'd share this story.

Coach K, Duke Help ‘Little Guy’ at Rutgers | ZagsBlog.com (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/01/26/coach-k-duke-help-little-guy-at-rutgers/)

[cartman]

Is he going to play this year for them?

Supposedly he isn't going to be eligible to play for the Mean Green until the Spring semester of 2012.

[cartman]

Another very impressive road win for Texas, beating Okie State in Stillwater 61-46. I was worried a bit about some complacency coming off of the big win against Kansas, but there was none.

[sterlingice]

UT is looking really dangerous this year. I mean, typically, they're talented but they're playing like one hell of a team right now

SI

[MrBug708]

Local reports that Tony Mitchell will enroll at North Texas. B12 doesn't allow partial qualifiers. He should have done that at the start of the year. Will be interesting to see if he transfers to Mizzou at the end of the year once his transcript is in order.

If he enrolls at North Texas, why would he transfer to Missouri at the end of the year?

[cartman]

BYU - SDSU about to tip off on CBS College Sports!

[Swaggs]

WVU went more than 13 minutes in the 2nd half without a field goal @ Louisville tonight and watched an 11-point half time lead evaporate. Then they got a few free throws and a timely three to go up by one. Missed two free throws and then Louisville's guard made a ridiculous scoop shot with 4.5 seconds to win it by 1. :(

WVU is down to only 8 scholarship players able to dress.

We banked one scholarship when Devin Ebanks left early for the NBA, but Coach Huggins convinced a senior that had graduated but still working towards a masters at WVU to come back (he had redshirted his first year, so graduated in 4 but still had a year of eligibility after last season)

Of our freshmen class, one was academically inelgible, one was medically disqualified for a previously undiscovered heart problem, one enrolled but was reportedly addicted to prescription meds and left after one semester without playing, and one played well in limited duty but is now out for the season with a knee injury. Not a good way to follow up a Final Four season.

Another player left the bench in the second quarter on Sunday and quit the team. And our leading scorer has been suspended indefinitely (reportedly two weeks for failing a drug test).

If Coach Huggins can get this team into the NCAA tourney, he will have earned his money this season.

[Atocep]

WVU went more than 13 minutes in the 2nd half without a field goal @ Louisville tonight and watched an 11-point half time lead evaporate. Then they got a few free throws and a timely three to go up by one. Missed two free throws and then Louisville's guard made a ridiculous scoop shot with 4.5 seconds to win it by 1. :(

WVU is down to only 8 scholarship players able to dress.

We banked one scholarship when Devin Ebanks left early for the NBA, but Coach Huggins convinced a senior that had graduated but still working towards a masters at WVU to come back (he had redshirted his first year, so graduated in 4 but still had a year of eligibility after last season)

Of our freshmen class, one was academically inelgible, one was medically disqualified for a previously undiscovered heart problem, one enrolled but was reportedly addicted to prescription meds and left after one semester without playing, and one played well in limited duty but is now out for the season with a knee injury. Not a good way to follow up a Final Four season.

Another player left the bench in the second quarter on Sunday and quit the team. And our leading scorer has been suspended indefinitely (reportedly two weeks for failing a drug test).

If Coach Huggins can get this team into the NCAA tourney, he will have earned his money this season.


This season had promise for awhile and still does to an extent, but it could get really ugly down the stretch.

Never seen Huggins have so many guys that argue with him and just don't listen.

5 guys signed and I've been told 3 scholarships open now with Jennings getting dismissed. Another could open if Pepper decides to transfer (I've heard it's pretty much a guarantee but they were saying the same last year and he was talked out of it).

[Swaggs]

This season had promise for awhile and still does to an extent, but it could get really ugly down the stretch.

Never seen Huggins have so many guys that argue with him and just don't listen.

5 guys signed and I've been told 3 scholarships open now with Jennings getting dismissed. Another could open if Pepper decides to transfer (I've heard it's pretty much a guarantee but they were saying the same last year and he was talked out of it).

The odd thing is that four of the guys still playing were Beilein recruits (Thoroughman, Mazzulla, and West were all with the team already but have had to RS for one reason or another and Flowers was committed while Beilein was coach and stayed through the transition), so there are really only four active players that were signed by Huggins and he has had four recruiting classes come in.

In other news, John Beilein had his contract extended by Michigan through 2015-16. He is roughly .500 overall and 22-35 in the Big Ten since taking over ~3.5 years ago. Not much of an improvement over the Amaker years (Amaker finished 108-84/43-53).

[Comey]

I remember when Pepper was in high school...quite the polarizing figure.

[MizzouRah]

Another very impressive road win for Texas, beating Okie State in Stillwater 61-46. I was worried a bit about some complacency coming off of the big win against Kansas, but there was none.

We are coming for you!

[Logan]

It's the Jimmer show. 41 points as BYU pulls away in the final minutes.

[whomario]

Have only seen highlights of the game, but 43 points (on great percentages) in the biggest game of the year and one that wasn´t particularly high scoring, that´s just huge.

Interesting stat i saw online : That was just his 2nd 30+ game at home while he has 13 of those on the road.

[jbergey22]

Have only seen highlights of the game, but 43 points (on great percentages) in the biggest game of the year and one that wasn´t particularly high scoring, that´s just huge.

Interesting stat i saw online : That was just his 2nd 30+ game at home while he has 13 of those on the road.

That is a telling sign of what kind of player he is. When they need him to step up on the road he often times does. BYU usually just crushes teams at home as well so Im sure the scoring is more spread out.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Supposedly he isn't going to be eligible to play for the Mean Green until the Spring semester of 2012.

Link?

He's paying his own way at NT. My understanding is that he's eligible immediately under that scenario.

[cartman]

Link?

He's paying his own way at NT. My understanding is that he's eligible immediately under that scenario.

Missouri Tigers recruit Tony Mitchell ruled academically ineligible by NCAA - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6062048)

FTA: A source confirmed to ESPNDallas.com that Mitchell is in the process of enrolling at North Texas as an academic non-qualifier and would not be eligible to play until at least the second semester of the 2011-12 school year.

[Matthean]

In other news, John Beilein had his contract extended by Michigan through 2015-16. He is roughly .500 overall and 22-35 in the Big Ten since taking over ~3.5 years ago. Not much of an improvement over the Amaker years (Amaker finished 108-84/43-53).

Amaker is doing well at his new job as well. Izzo still rules the state and Michigan still has the problem of not being able to beat MSU. Michigan needs players to run his system and even though they had a couple talented players there last year, one of them was a little too lone wolf for it to work. Michigan is frisky enough to give teams issues, but not solid enough to be deemed good. I think MSU@Michigan this year will be interesting. With MSU losing key players and Michigan being so young, I think Michigan gives them a run next year.

[Matthean]

33-27 Michigan over MSU at the half. Michigan is shooting 50% from 3.

[Matthean]

61-57 Michigan over MSU. So freaking glad the State fans get to shut up now.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Missouri Tigers recruit Tony Mitchell ruled academically ineligible by NCAA - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6062048)

FTA: A source confirmed to ESPNDallas.com that Mitchell is in the process of enrolling at North Texas as an academic non-qualifier and would not be eligible to play until at least the second semester of the 2011-12 school year.

What a disaster for that kid. Obviously should have paid more attention to his grades.

[whomario]

In a battle of 2 of my favourite teams Saint Mary´s beats Gonzaga on the road, 73-71. Gonzaga now 13-8 with 3 straight conference losses (started the season bad, then had a very good stretch, now this).
Awesome game winning shot by senior guard Mickey McConnell (who is averaging 15 points, 6.5 assists and is shooting 52/47/89) who also had 10 of their last 11 and 27 points on 10-17 for the game.

The game winner : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei-brKKBmVg

[sterlingice]

Zags in danger of missing the tourney this year. It looks like they won't win the conference and they won't get an at-large so it'll be conference tourney or bust.

SI

[cartman]

Pretty cool story from the Div. III ranks.

Big Coach In The Little Gym | ThePostGame (http://www.thepostgame.com/homepage/201101/big-coach-little-gym)

[MizzouRah]

Big game tomorrow.. can't wait!!! MIZ!

[Kodos]

Indiana beating Illinois the other night was pretty sweet. The Illini fans on Scout are pretty much unbearable.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Big game tomorrow.. can't wait!!! MIZ!

ZOU! Excited as well. Good measuring stick for both teams.

[MizzouRah]

ZOU! Excited as well. Good measuring stick for both teams.

Going to be tough.. that place will be rocking tonight.

[jbergey22]

If it makes Mizzou fans feel any better about their chances tonight this is a premium letdown spot for Texas. Coming off a huge win at Kansas and showing great effort at Oklahoma State you might think this is the game their egos are a little bloated coming home against a dangerous Mizzou team. If Mizzou can get the lead early this could get interesting otherwise Texas probably wins this easily.

Texas has a smothering defense so Mizzou will need someone to come out hot.

[Radii]

Great win for UNC over NC State. Harrison Barnes had a breakout game with 25 points and 6 boards. He shot well, limited some of the dumb mistakes that have his turnover count way too high, and hustled as much as anyone on the floor. This was by far the best I've seen him play. John Henson was even better imo, 16 points, 16 boards, 7 blocked shots. Tyler Zeller has improved a ton this year but he is prone to getting pushed around down low, henson is really holding things down inside for this team.

UNC has won 8 out of 10 and may sneak back into the top 25 next week, but they have a huge stretch coming up, at BC, vs FSU, at Duke, at Clemson. They played the closest thing to a complete game today that I've seen, but still I think 2-2 over the next 4 would be great.


Sidney Lowe has to be done after the year, right? Is there any case to give him another year to try to develop the recruiting class he brought in last year, or is this just it?

Lastly, yeah that review/technical foul was bullshit. The game was over already imo, but that turned it into the 20+ point blowout.

[cartman]

Was watching the Villanova-G'Town game earlier. Why does it seem that Corey Fisher has been on Villanova for like 10 seasons?

[MJ4H]

A road win against a ranked team is not exactly what I expected tonight, but Arkansas beats Vanderbilt for only the 4th time ever in their gym, 89-78 tonight.

Pelphrey's teams have been so inconsistent. Sure wish they could play like that more often.

[sterlingice]

Kansas is dismantling K-State on the sesquicentennial of Kansas's statehood. K-State is just ice cold and they're missing everything from threes to dunks.

SI

[MizzouRah]

Portland dominating St. Mary's.

[MizzouRah]

Texas dominating Mizzou so far... ugh...

[Swaggs]

WVU picks up a nice road win over Cincy. For the second straight game, we only played 7 guys (and one of them seemed to disappear in the second half, so hopefully he is not hurt).

[Logan]

Rutgers just had a terrible last possession in the effort to knock off #2 Pitt. 65-62 final.

[cartman]

Superb defensive effort from Texas tonight, holding Mizzou to 27 points below their season average, in a 71-58 win. Could have been a lot worse, but they were horrid from the free throw line.

Not feeling too confident in the next game. Have a quick turnaround to play an angry A&M team in College Station on Monday night.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Superb defensive effort from Texas tonight, holding Mizzou to 27 points below their season average, in a 71-58 win. Could have been a lot worse, but they were horrid from the free throw line.

Not feeling too confident in the next game. Have a quick turnaround to play an angry A&M team in College Station on Monday night.

We obviously were watching a different game. Mizzou had wide open looks for most of the second half and missed one after the other. It was a pretty embarrassing effort by Texas, yet Mizzou somehow managed to be more embarrassing in the process. Didn't help that our best interior player got KO'd in the first half. Neither of those teams played like a top 10-15 team tonight. The only redeeming difference for Texas is that they got a W out of that debacle.

[cartman]

We obviously were watching a different game. Mizzou had wide open looks for most of the second half and missed one after the other. It was a pretty embarrassing effort by Texas, yet Mizzou somehow managed to be more embarrassing in the process. Didn't help that our best interior player got KO'd in the first half. Neither of those teams played like a top 10-15 team tonight. The only redeeming difference for Texas is that they got a W out of that debacle.

Of course this would be your reply.

ROFL

[jbergey22]

Lets not give Texas any credit for leading from start to finish:lol: For someone that predicted that they may go 0-4 during this current stretch that they are currently 3-0 you might think you would eventually give the team a little credit.

[Lathum]

Of course this would be your reply.

ROFL

I knew you would take special joy in this win. I almost texted you at the half but didn't want to jinx anything.

[Swaggs]

:popcorn:

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Of course this would be your reply.

ROFL

Texas was playing with fire that second half by leaving Denmon wide open and got away with it. Good for them. It was pretty obvious from watching Barnes in the second half that he had an evaluation of that half that matched what I saw.

Regardless, it's a good situation when you're team is 17-4. I'll take it.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I knew you would take special joy in this win. I almost texted you at the half but didn't want to jinx anything.

They hadn't beat Mizzou in over four years. It's a major step for their program, no matter how ugly it was.

[jbergey22]

They hadn't beat Mizzou in over four years. It's a major step for their program, no matter how ugly it was.

I dont know if its that major considering KenPom has had Texas as a better final team 3 out of the 4 years than Mizzou. So Mizzou stole one at Texas 2 years ago. Lets not make a mountain out of a molehill.

This was the highly likely outcome of todays game so we really learned nothing new about either team.

[cartman]

They hadn't beat Mizzou in over four years. It's a major step for their program, no matter how ugly it was.

You are a piece of work.

Never mind they snapped a 69 game home win streak for Kansas.

Never mind that they've been to the Sweet 16 five out of the past nine seasons, with 3 trips to the Elite 8 and one Final Four appearance in that span. No, what was holding the program back was three straight losses to Mizzou, by a total number of points that was less than what Texas won by tonight.

[Lathum]

Mizzou, looking like the solid Sweet 16 team they are!!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Mizzou, looking like the solid Sweet 16 team they are!!

Probably a fair assessment at this point.

[cartman]

I really feel sorry for MizzouRah, panerd, SackAttack, and the other sane Mizzou fans that are on the board. They know how to keep things in perspective.

[Logan]

You are a piece of work.

Never mind they snapped a 69 game home win streak for Kansas.

Never mind that they've been to the Sweet 16 five out of the past nine seasons, with 3 trips to the Elite 8 and one Final Four appearance in that span. No, what was holding the program back was three straight losses to Mizzou, by a total number of points that was less than what Texas won by tonight.

Finally you admit it.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

You are a piece of work.

Never mind they snapped a 69 game home win streak for Kansas.

Never mind that they've been to the Sweet 16 five out of the past nine seasons, with 3 trips to the Elite 8 and one Final Four appearance in that span. No, what was holding the program back was three straight losses to Mizzou, by a total number of points that was less than what Texas won by tonight.

No question that they're having a program-defining season thus far. They've beat two teams in the first six games this year that have been a monkey on their back over the last few seasons. Couldn't have come at a better time for the UT athletic program after the football season they had.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I really feel sorry for MizzouRah, panerd, SackAttack, and the other sane Mizzou fans that are on the board. They know how to keep things in perspective.

The rest of the world thanks UT fans for their pity. You can now go and watch a high school football game on your network.

[cartman]

No question that they're having a program-defining season thus far. They've beat two teams in the first six games this year that have been a monkey on their back over the last few seasons. Couldn't have come at a better time for the UT athletic program after the football season they had.

Well, at least that was a good sendoff for Mizzou as they head to the Big 10.

Oh, wait...

[jbergey22]

No question that they're having a program-defining season thus far. They've beat two teams in the first six games this year that have been a monkey on their back over the last few seasons. Couldn't have come at a better time for the UT athletic program after the football season they had.

A win at Kansas or ESPECIALLY a home win against Missouri does not define the Texas program. Seriously, are you just trying to be annoying. Texas has been rock solid pretty much since the time I was born.

Unless I am in a time warp Missoui is not a Duke, North Carolina, or Kansas programs that you are trying to make them into.

Comparisons to Missouri would be programs like West Virginia, California, and Oklahoma State.

[Lathum]

No question that they're having a program-defining season thus far. .

What exactly are they being defined as?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

What exactly are they being defined as?

A B12 title leader and a final four contender? I'm not sure I buy that second definition just yet, but they've certainly got the wins where and when they needed them thus far. Given that KU has controlled that role in the B12 for several years now, that's without question a program-defining situation for Texas.

[Lathum]

A B12 title leader and a final four contender? I'm not sure I buy that second definition just yet, but they've certainly got the wins where and when they needed them thus far. Given that KU has controlled that role in the B12 for several years now, that's without question a program-defining situation for Texas.

This is just a silly statement. So a conference can only have one leader, one contender?

You act like UT has taken some monumental step forward or something this year.

[sterlingice]

And here I would have thought a Final Four appearance in 2003 or E8 appearances and co-Big XII titles in 2006 and 2008 would have defined the program but I guess it's a home win against the #4 team in the conference.

SI

[cartman]

A B12 title leader and a final four contender? I'm not sure I buy that second definition just yet, but they've certainly got the wins where and when they needed them thus far. Given that KU has controlled that role in the B12 for several years now, that's without question a program-defining situation for Texas.

That definitely would be program defining for Mizzou, as they have never earned even a share of a regular season title in the Big 12, nor reached a Final Four appearance.

Texas has shared two of the past five regular season titles with Kansas, and won another outright under Rick Barnes, as well as appearing in the 2003 Final Four.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

This is just a silly statement. So a conference can only have one leader, one contender?

You act like UT has taken some monumental step forward or something this year.

This just in......this conference has had only one leader and one contender for over half a decade. I'm a MU fan that lacks 'perspective', but even I'm not that dumb to say otherwise.

You obviously didn't watch UT last year. The change from last year to this year is nothing short of monumental. UT fans have to be thrilled.

[Lathum]

Texas has shared two of the past five regular season titles with Kansas, and won another outright under Rick Barnes, as well as appearing in the 2003 Final Four.

This just in......this conference has had only one leader and one contender for over half a decade. I'm a MU fan that lacks 'perspective', but even I'm not that dumb to say otherwise.


So the above statement isn't true?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

So the above statement isn't true?

KU has been the program in this conference for some time now. Anyone who argues otherwise hasn't been paying attention.

[jbergey22]

King of exaggeration. Texas was ranked #1 in the nation at one point last year if memory serves correct. It may have crumbled down on them but ending the season around the 15-25th best team in the nation isnt really as big of a drop as one might make it seem.

[jbergey22]

KU has been the program in this conference for some time now. Anyone who argues otherwise hasn't been paying attention.

Are you saying they no longer are?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

King of exaggeration. Texas was ranked #1 in the nation at one point last year if memory serves correct. It may have crumbled down on them but ending the season around the 15-25th best team in the nation isnt really as big of a drop as one might make it seem.

8 seed does not = "15-25th best team in the nation". It was brutal, but I'm sure that debacle makes UT's early run in conference all the more sweeter, especially when they're conquering one demon after another.

[Lathum]

KU has been the program in this conference for some time now. Anyone who argues otherwise hasn't been paying attention.

No argument there, but you act like Texas was light years behind them until this season, which isn't true.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Are you saying they no longer are?

KU has struggled this year (when comparing to what KU usually does). They also have to play in the tougher division this year while UT has the much easier schedule over the last ten games. UT really should win the conference this year.

[jbergey22]

8 seed does not = "15-25th best team in the nation". It was brutal, but I'm sure that debacle makes UT's early run in conference all the more sweeter, especially when they're conquering one demon after another.

Im sorry but I trust KenPom's rating over that of the NCAA tourny committee. KenPom had Texas 18th last year. Im not saying hes has everything down perfectly but his website is the best Ive found.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

No argument there, but you act like Texas was light years behind them until this season, which isn't true.

UT was WAY behind them last season. There's no question about that.

[MizzouRah]

Down what, 10-0 to start the game? Yikes.. enough with the horrible starts Mizzou!

Texas is a scary team, and for good reason.

I like them so much more than I like Kansas, so props for the W tonight. I do love watching Pressey play though. :)

I hope Bowers is ok.

[jbergey22]

KU has struggled this year (when comparing to what KU usually does). They also have to play in the tougher division this year while UT has the much easier schedule over the last ten games. UT really should win the conference this year.

Thats the thing. A lot of predictions (including LV odds) didnt think Kansas would win the Big 12 this year. Does it mean Kansas is suddenly a weaker program or having a year where they are reloading? I tend to think its the latter. I dont really think Texas has passed Kansas just like I dont think Mizzou passed Texas when they beat them in Texas a couple years back. Its still just one game or one season.

[Lathum]

UT was WAY behind them last season. There's no question about that.

Oh, OK, didn't realize a program was defined entirely by what they had done the season before.

Butler is really struggling as the second best team in the country this year.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Down what, 10-0 to start the game? Yikes.. enough with the horrible starts Mizzou!

Texas is a scary team, and for good reason.

I like them so much more than I like Kansas, so props for the W tonight. I do love watching Pressey play though. :)

I hope Bowers is ok.

Bowers will be fine. He just took a puncher's shot to the jaw. One of those 'on the button' shots that is usually reserved for boxing. Tristan comes down pretty wide with those elbows. He nailed Steve Moore later in the game too. Don't think either was intentional, but probably should have warned the kid to pull them in a bit.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Oh, OK, didn't realize a program was defined entirely by what they had done the season before.

Butler is really struggling as the second best team in the country this year.

Joke all you want, but I'll likely be right in the end. This team will accomplish more in B12 league play than any other team has before. The table is set now where they should win the B12 Championship.

[MizzouRah]

Yeah, reminded me of a boxing hit to the jaw for sure.

This team is exciting to watch MBBF.. don't fret, we will finish strong!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Yeah, reminded me of a boxing hit to the jaw for sure.

This team is exciting to watch MBBF.. don't fret, we will finish strong!

Not worried at all. As I said, I'd like to be disappointed with 17-4 every year. :)

[MizzouRah]

Me too.. I hate thest peiple on the raido who talk about the footaball team.. what, you want to go back to 7-5 seasons?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Me too.. I hate thest peiple on the raido who talk about the footaball team.. what, you want to go back to 7-5 seasons?

I'm not worried because our 'murderer's row' in our schedule is pretty much over. Take a look at the rest of the schedule.

at Oklahoma State
Colorado
at Kansas
Oklahoma
Tech
at Iowa State
Baylor
at Kansas State
at Nebraska
Kansas

Outside of the Kansas games, we have a great shot at winning all of those games. 11-5 is a good probability. That likely will get you a bye in the tournament with an overall record of 25-6. Even a 10-6 record gives you a record of 24-7. I'll begrudgingly take that. :)

[Logan]

St. John's beat the hell out of Duke.

[MizzouRah]

I'm not worried because our 'murderer's row' in our schedule is pretty much over. Take a look at the rest of the schedule.

at Oklahoma State
Colorado
at Kansas
Oklahoma
Tech
at Iowa State
Baylor
at Kansas State
at Nebraska
Kansas

Outside of the Kansas games, we have a great shot at winning all of those games. 11-5 is a good probability. That likely will get you a bye in the tournament with an overall record of 25-6. Even a 10-6 record gives you a record of 24-7. I'll begrudgingly take that. :)

11-5 seems like a good shot

[Swaggs]

I feel a little better about WVU losing to St. John's now. :)

[MrBug708]

Lavin being Lavin.

[Swaggs]

Lavin being Lavin.

I think Lavin is going to be very successful as long as he is CEOing and recruiting and he has Gene Keady on the bench managing things during actual games. If Keady sticks around for another two seasons, St. John's could be really good.

They have a ton of seniors this season and their freshmen will take some lumps next year, but I'd look for them to be in he top 4-5 in the BE after that.

[Scarecrow]

K-State's season summed up in one video:

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[sterlingice]

Yeah- that was just horrible luck. I mean, really. It went all the way down and came back out.

SI

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Looks like some of the mid-week games in the Big 12 may be postponed due to the winter storm.

[MJ4H]

Yeah- that was just horrible luck. I mean, really. It went all the way down and came back out.

SI


Wait a minute, what's the rule here? Did that not count?

[cartman]

Wait a minute, what's the rule here? Did that not count?

A quick reading of the NCAA rules states at the ball must travel through the basket, and in their definition of the basket, the net is part of it. So technically the ball must pass through the net. If someone knocks it back through, that is goaltending, but from the video is seems the net itself slings the ball back out.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Wait a minute, what's the rule here? Did that not count?

Nope. Has to go completely through the net to count.

[MJ4H]

A quick reading of the NCAA rules states at the ball must travel through the basket, and in their definition of the basket, the net is part of it. So technically the ball must pass through the net. If someone knocks it back through, that is goaltending, but from the video is seems the net itself slings the ball back out.

harsh

[cartman]

There is also another phrase for the definition of "goal" in the rule book that says "remains in" the basket. So apparently if the net traps the ball after it enters from above, that counts. But not sure if I've ever seen that happen in a game before.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Wally Judge has quit at KSU. What a mess. Martin's time at KSU is starting to look eerily similar to the Quin Snyder years at Mizzou. A surprising Elite Eight experience followed by a high ranking that turned into a season-long failure. Martin will get a shot next year, but the talent is bare at this point and I'm not sure he can turn it around.

[cartman]

Texas with another stellar defense effort, getting their first win at College Station in 7 years, 69-49. I guess they just got lucky and A&M missed a bunch of open shots in holding the Aggies to 17 of 55 shooting for the game.

[duckman]

That has to be a program defining win for your team too! ;)

[jbergey22]

So much for that 0-4 stretch for Texas.

[Lathum]

Texas is a head-scratcher of a team. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they lose their next four. Three road games (KU, A&M, OSU) and a home game against Mizzou who they haven't beaten in over four years.

QFT

[MizzouRah]

Yeah.. Texas is for real.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

QFT

Without question, it's been an amazing stretch for Texas. 2-2 would have been very good for that stretch. 3-0 thus far is incredible.

[jbergey22]

Without question, it's been an amazing stretch for Texas. 2-2 would have been very good for that stretch. 3-0 thus far is incredible.

4-0

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

4-0

You're right. Forgot about OSU. Definitely incredible.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

OSU is opening the doors for the OSU/Mizzou game. No admission charge for anyone brave enough to make it to the game. Mizzou still here in KC. Going to try to make it to Stillwater tomorrow.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/article.aspx?subjectid=2&articleid=20110201_93_0_STILLW22616

[panerd]

OSU is opening the doors for the OSU/Mizzou game. No admission charge for anyone brave enough to make it to the game. Mizzou still here in KC. Going to try to make it to Stillwater tomorrow.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/article.aspx?subjectid=2&articleid=20110201_93_0_STILLW22616

Seems like a really bad idea. Didn't OSU really have to make it back from that game in Colorado a few years ago? Just reschedule the damn thing! It's not 1940, a trip to Stillwater is an hour from Columbia regional.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Seems like a really bad idea. Didn't OSU really have to make it back from that game in Colorado a few years ago? Just reschedule the damn thing! It's not 1940, a trip to Stillwater is an hour from Columbia regional.

Yeah, I'm hoping if they do go that they go via bus. Flying in 50 MPH winds seems like a really bad idea. KCI is closed and not expected to open until tomorrow. Not sure if any flights will go out of the downtown airport either. I'm sure the OSU staff is also thinking about that tragedy and wondering if they should risk it.

[Logan]

Wally Judge has quit at KSU. What a mess. Martin's time at KSU is starting to look eerily similar to the Quin Snyder years at Mizzou. A surprising Elite Eight experience followed by a high ranking that turned into a season-long failure. Martin will get a shot next year, but the talent is bare at this point and I'm not sure he can turn it around.

Interesting that I just heard Judge could end up at Rutgers based on his connection with assistant coach David Cox from their DC Assault days.

[rjolley]

Yeah, I'm hoping if they do go that they go via bus. Flying in 50 MPH winds seems like a really bad idea. KCI is closed and not expected to open until tomorrow. Not sure if any flights will go out of the downtown airport either. I'm sure the OSU staff is also thinking about that tragedy and wondering if they should risk it.
KC has a downtown airport? I don't remember that and I worked in downtown KC.

[cartman]

Texas gets their conference play off to a great start with a 83-52 dismantling of Texas Tech in Lubbock.

We'll find out pretty soon if the Horns have a shot at winning the Big 12. They host OU, then run the Big 12 gauntlet in the five games after that:

vs. A&M
at Kansas
at Oklahoma State
vs. Mizzou
at A&M

4-1 would be excellent for that stretch, but 3-2 is more likely.

I never would have pegged them to go 5-0, especially winning each of the games in dominating fashion.

[panerd]

KC has a downtown airport? I don't remember that and I worked in downtown KC.

Yeah, its right by downtown across the Missouri River. How did you miss an airport?

[sterlingice]

Yeah, but it's a little dinky executive airport. It's not exactly a popular taking off point. Can't say I've ever flown out of there.

SI

[rjolley]

Yeah, its right by downtown across the Missouri River. How did you miss an airport?
LOL That's exactly what I was thinking.

I worked at Birch Telecom not too far from Crown Plaza. Still don't remember seeing planes down there. :)

[mauchow]

Whew! Wisconsin comes around to beat Purdue. Kind of a strange game. Purdue had 19 points in the first half and then had 19 points in the first five minutes of the second half. The Badgers were able to overcome a 12/13 field goal run for the Boilermakers and a 7 pt deficit in the second half to win at home. Some definite help on occasion from the referees but then some mind-boggling missed calls. JaJuan Johnson is over-rated in my opinion. He travels a lot (not called) and makes poor decisions. I admit he's a good baller but not a top-notch player that is always said about him. I would take Jon Leuer over him every day of the week (but that may be my rose colored glasses talking though).

And I HATE analysts who talk about the Badgers. I just heard the guy say "If you like watching paint dry you might like watching the Badgers...." Really? Really.. Really? Excuse the Badgers for being one of the most efficient offenses in all of college basketball. And then add the fact that they have two players that are quite possibly top five in the country at their positions in Jordan Taylor and Leuer.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

LOL That's exactly what I was thinking.

I worked at Birch Telecom not too far from Crown Plaza. Still don't remember seeing planes down there. :)

It's actually a pretty busy airport, but it's all private executive jets and charter flights. I've flown in a private jet a couple times out of there. Pretty nice to not have to go through security to fly somewhere.

[Radii]

UNC: they have a huge stretch coming up, at BC, vs FSU, at Duke, at Clemson. They played the closest thing to a complete game today that I've seen, but still I think 2-2 over the next 4 would be great.

Holy shit what a start to this 4 game stretch I mentioned over the weekend... UNC absolutely decimates Boston College in their house, 106-74. This is the best I've seen UNC play since the 2009 national title game. Against NC State they had some poor stretches but State was just not up to taking advantage of it. Here there was just no weakness, no poor stretch at all.

Harrison Barnes sets another career high with 26 points. He took maybe one bad shot, added 6 boards and only turned it over once. The turnovers are as important imo as the scoring, he's really played in control the past couple games and has hopefully turned a corner.


HUGE game against FSU at home coming up this weekend, FSU is only 1/2 game behind Duke and UNC at the top of the league.

I'd like to point out again that things *really* seemed to come together imo the second Larry Drew was benched for Kendall Marshall.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Mizzou plane got out of KC. Will arrive in Stillwater around 3:00 PM. Going to be a tough game with such a short turnaround.

[duckman]

Oklahoma beat Baylor 73-66 for their 4th straight win. They are currently 4th in the conference. Now, I know they will probably maintain this, but it still feels good knowing they are not as bad as predicted. Of course, the entire Big XII is pretty weak this season.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Oklahoma beat Baylor 73-66 for their 4th straight win. They are currently 4th in the conference. Now, I know they will probably maintain this, but it still feels good knowing they are not as bad as predicted. Of course, the entire Big XII is pretty weak this season.

Drew continues to demonstrate what can happen when you are a good recruiter with no coaching skills. Unbelievable.

[panerd]

Oklahoma beat Baylor 73-66 for their 4th straight win. They are currently 4th in the conference. Now, I know they will probably maintain this, but it still feels good knowing they are not as bad as predicted. Of course, the entire Big XII is pretty weak this season.

:confused:

#2, #3, #14, & #16. It's no Big East but not that weak. I think the bottom 6 teams (not sure what to make of Baylor and K-State) ae justr very close to each other and thus there are a lot of 3 and 4 win teams.

[jbergey22]

According to Ken Pom its

1. Big Ten .8999
2. Big East .8824
3. Big 12 .8591
4. ACC .8274
5. Pac-10 .8064

Big 12 is the only conference with 2 teams in his top 5. Big 10 has 3 in the top 10. Big East has 10 in the top 30 but only 1 in his top 10.

[Matthean]

MSU is basically done. They are currently getting beat by 20+ to Iowa and 5 of their next 6 are against ranked teams and they finish @Michigan. Izzo's tourney magic will have to work it's magic in the NIT because I'm clueless how a team this lifeless flips the switch at this point.

[jbergey22]

Syracuse with a much needed win and a big one at that.

Oklahoma State appears to be having a program defining win tonight.

[Poli]

It's really quiet here at the Poli house. The Mizzou game is on. Odd, my roommate isn't talking smack about the greatness of Mizzou. I wonder what the matter is.

[jbergey22]

MSU is basically done. They are currently getting beat by 20+ to Iowa and 5 of their next 6 are against ranked teams and they finish @Michigan. Izzo's tourney magic will have to work it's magic in the NIT because I'm clueless how a team this lifeless flips the switch at this point.

I was very surprised they were able to make the run they did last year with a lack of scoring options. Seems to be a bigger problem this year. Izzo's coaching can only take them so far he just needs a get a couple scorers to go with a his great rebounders and defenders.

[MizzouRah]

It's really quiet here at the Poli house. The Mizzou game is on. Odd, my roommate isn't talking smack about the greatness of Mizzou. I wonder what the matter is.

What about the greatness of Tennessee? :p

[panerd]

It's really quiet here at the Poli house. The Mizzou game is on. Odd, my roommate isn't talking smack about the greatness of Mizzou. I wonder what the matter is.

It's always the officials from Mizzou fans right? Nah a 43-16 free throw discrepancy is pretty normal for most games.

[Swaggs]

It's always the officials from Mizzou fans right? Nah a 43-16 free throw discrepancy is pretty normal for most games.

Could be the physical, full-court defense that Missouri plays?

[jbergey22]

Could be the physical, full-court defense that Missouri plays?

No way! Refs single out Mizzou every single year. Its a conspiracy.