WW CXXXIX - The Red Death II - GAME OVER, SERVANTS WIN

[Abe Sargent]

Masque of the Red Death

Long ago in an unknown age, an evil, arcane and powerful entity was banished to our realm from places much higher and grander. When the Red Death entered our existence is not recorded, but all of human history has been affected by it. It’s unknown, malevolent presence taints the world and all in it. It is the truth behind tales of butchery and malevolence, behind fables of demons and devils.

The Red Death manipulates the world to its own end. It has servants and monsters, science and magic, all within its clutches. It animates corpses, drives good people mad, possesses minds, causes one’s blood to boil, taints nature, and despises righteousness.

In the shadowy recesses of our world lurk dark and disturbing creatures of nightmare and worse. These wickedly evil monstrosities are still yet nothing compared to the Red Death itself, which permeates our world.

During the ages of man, various people have tried to fight against it, from Imhotep to Merlin to Francis Bacon, various secret societies have sprung up to fight against the agents of the Red Death.

Magic is, of course, quite real, but it is tainted by the Red Death. Those who choose to practice it risk corruption by the Red Death. Governments are either ignorant of it, or secretly in line with it, but none fight against it. The Red Death controls all, dominates all, and taints all.

It has many pawns, agents, servants, worshippers and lackeys. Its power is immense, it has no physical form, and cannot be fought through strength of arms or steel of heart.

And yet, there are a cadre of Lightbringers who choose to fight against it and its agents. Perhaps they will not win today or tomorrow or even in a century, but by keeping up the fight, they set back plans and may enable humanity enough time to figure out a way to defeat the Red Death.

It is March 3, 1893, and a group of Lightbringers have assembled in Cape Girardeau, Missouri to discuss a plan for the Red Death to create some major mystical corruption at the World’s Fair being held in Chicago in May. Unfortunately, evidence appears to suggest that the Red Death has discovered and infiltrated your group somehow.

There are many ways this may have happened. Corruption. Possession. Shapeshifters. Vampirism. Lycanthropy. Bribery. Sympathetic Magic. These are just the ones you think of immediately, there are surely more.

However, as members of the Lightbringers, you are not without your own set of powers and abilities.

[Abe Sargent]

In this game there are two factions, the Servants of the Red Death, and the Lightbringers. Each day, the group will vote, and the voted member will be the subject of a Cleansing Flame spell. If the person is a Servant of the Red Death they will die spectacularly. If they are a Lightbringer or anyone else, they will usually die. However, there is a chance that they will survive. Based on statistical evidence, about 1 in 5 subjects of the Cleansing Flame who are good will not die the first time they are exposed to it. No one knows why this is so.

You can be sure that the Red Death and its Servants seek to continue to corrupt your holy order. Therefore, you are convinced that the numbers of the Servants will grow during the course of the game, unless you find and kill them with the Cleansing Flame.


The Red Death is so powerful, that when someone is corrupted, they will gain a new role and powers and lose their old ones.


Days will end at 10 PM EST. Nights end at 2 AM EST
Roles will be sent out on Sunday, Oct 2, and the first deadline will be Monday Night

[Abe Sargent]

None of the Red Death roles are known. However, you are aware of these Lightbringer roles:

Keeper of the Cleansing Flame – Once, as a night action, the Keeper can turn the Cleansing Flame against any player of their choice, with the normal results for the Flame. You can only do this once during the game.

Adept – You are able to, once per night, cast an Auramancy spell that will tell you if someone is a Servant of the Red Death. However, it has been shown in the past that many Servants do not show up as evil, so this is not a guaranteed way. Each time you choose to cast the Auramancy spell, there is a small but very real chance that the magic will corrupt you, since all magic comes from the Red Death.

Detective – Once per night, you can Observe Someone. This will tell you what that person has done for the evening. For example, you would learn that an Adept cast a spell, but not what the results were. If you observe another spellcaster, you would not be able to tell the difference between an Adept and them. Observing can be dangerous.

The Minister – You are an ordained minister and your faith in God, despite the presence of the Red Death, is enough to keep you from succumbing to the Red Death. You cannot be corrupted. Additionally, if you are night attacked by a vampire, you will kill the vampire.

The Sheriff – With a horse and a two handed-rifle you keep the peace in Arkansas, and now you will do the same here. Each night, submit an order for who to protect, and that person will be immune to any attack, but not immune to corruption. You may guard yourself, and you may guard the same person any number of times. Due to some cleverly concealed silver bullets, you will kill any lycanthrope that tries to kill you at night, or the person you guard. You cannot use certain items.

Abjurer – Like the adept, you are able to cast a spell at night. Each night, you may cast a Ward of Protection spell on any person you like. That person will be immune to corruption but not an attack for the night. Also, if you happen to Ward a Servant of the Red Death, and that person was going to take a corruption action on another, it will be stopped. However, like the Adept, whenever you cast a spell, there is a small chance you will be corrupted yourself.

The Exorcist – Like the Minister, you are also immune to corruption. Once per night, you can Exorcize a person. If they are possessed, they will stop being possessed, and will re-convert to the Lightbringers. This is dangerous to you. That person will be Exorcized in the thread, and it will be known they were once possessed. New rules for that player will be given to that player, in this event. They will gain a new, hidden role, The Exorcized, with its own powers and restrictions. You are immune to attack from minor undead, and will automatically defeat any minor undead attack (vampires are not minor undead, but zombies, skeletons, etc. are)

The Scientist – You are a clever scientist on the edge of technology and always inventing and tinkering. Each night, you may Make a Gadget.

Martyr – Once in the game, you can place yourself in the Cleansing Flame instead of someone else. Just pm me your desire to do so prior to the Cleansing Fire deadline.

Lifegiver – through a combination of alchemical ingredients, prayers and science, you can restore life to one Lightbringer who has died as a night action. Simply PM me which dead Lightbringer you would like to bring me during the night actions.

The Tinkerer – You will instantly know the Lightbringer powers of any object in your hand. You will not know how they can be used by Servants of the Red Death, just how your side can use them.


Please note the difference between a night “attack” and a night “corruption.” Both are forms of “actions.” They are two different types of actions, and these roles refer to one or the other frequently as appropriate.

Not all of these roles will be in the game. It's possible there could be Lightbringer roles not listed above as well.

That the Servants will have many different ways of attacking you, corrupting you, and so forth. They are quite powerful. However, as the game goes on, they will lose many of their abilities to corrupt.

[Abe Sargent]

In order to win, the Lightbringers must kill every Servant of the Red Death. The Servants must have more than the # of Lightbringers (instead of the usual 1:1 ratio), and they must kill or convert every Exorcist and Minister as well. If, at the end of the game, there is one Servant and one Lightbringer left, a special rule will occur to see who wins based on roles. Lightbringers are no chumps.

There are many items in this game, and every player will begin with a random item, even Servants. The only person who brings items into the game, however, is the Scientist. Each night, once per item, you may pass an item to a person of your choice, just pm me and let me know. This is processed when Night Actions are processed, but it does not count as a Night Action. Items are passed as the last thing during the evening. Items on a dead person are collected by the Servants.

Some items are obvious – Charms of Protection Against Shapeshifters or Colt Peacemaker. Other items have unknown or more nefarious uses, and you may not immediately know what they all do. There might even be red herrings

Not all Servants may be able to pm each other. There are no hidden Lightbringer roles beyond the Exorcized. There may be more than one of each role. When they are killed, Servants of the Red Death will have both their title and their role and abilities posted in the thread. You are experienced enough that you know what a creature is and all about it.

[Abe Sargent]

Dramatis Personae:


1. CrimsonFox - Lightbringer - Killed Night Four - Actually a Servant, the Shapeshifter
2. The Jackal - Lightbringer - Killed Night Nine
3. Danny - Lightbriner - Abjurer - Killed Night Three
4. Autumn - Servant - WON
5. saldana - Lightbringer - Lynched Day Two.
6. Lathum - Lightbringer - Minister - Killed Night Two
7. Zinto - Order of Vladd, Second Rank - Servant of the Red Death - Lynched Day Three
8. MrBug708 - Lightbringer - Adept - Lynched Day Five
9. J23
10. Narcizo - Succubus - Servant of the Red Death - Lynched day Six
11. Thomkal - Lightbringer - Killed Night Seven
12. ntndeacon - The Unhallowed - Servant of the Red Death - Lynched Day One
13. bhlloy - - Lightbringer - Keeper of the Cleansing Flame - Killed Night One
14. dzilla77 - Lightbringer, Exorcist - Killed Night Four
15. Raiders Army - Lightbringer - Lynched Day Four
16. Chief Rum - Lightbringer - Scientist - Killed by Werecrocodile, Day Seven Lynch
17. mckerney - Lightbringer - Martyr - Lynched Day Ten
18. EagleFan - Werecrocodile - Servant of the Red Death - Lynched Day Seven
19. Commo Soldier
20. mauboy1 - Lighgtbringer - Sheriff - Lynched Day Nine
21, SnDvls - Lightbringer - Detective - Killed Night Five
22. dubb93 - Lightbringer - Killed Night Ten
23. hoopsguy - Lightbringer - Killed Night Eight
24. Grammaticus - Lightbringer - Killed Night Six

[CrimsonFox]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here's hoping I don't get lynched as the sheriff again :P

IN!

[The Jackal]

Oh hell yes, in.

[Danny]

I am in.

[Autumn]

In.

[CrimsonFox]

Oh yeah....gonna Start things off right...You're all douchebags! (and SO AM I :D! )

[Abe Sargent]

Should we send out roles on Wed night and start on Thursday or sen them out Sunday and begin next Monday?

[CrimsonFox]

Depends on the signups. Lately it seems that it takes a week to get enough signups for a game, including hearing back from people you PM to recruit as not everyone logs in every day.

[saldana]

welcome back abe.

im in

[Autumn]

I'm for the earlier start. I think you'll get the people, and if it's clear things are starting sooner I think people pay more attention and sign up. We need to cultivate a sense of urgency!

Sign up now!

[Autumn]

welcome back abe.

im in

Welcome back, Saldana!

[Lathum]

in

[CrimsonFox]

Okay I massmailed everyone from the Evil Dead game that new signups were up for a quickstart. That might help.

[The Jackal]

Okay I massmailed everyone from the Evil Dead game that new signups were up for a quickstart. That might help.

I already signed up, pay attention!

[CrimsonFox]

*whimpers* Sorry Jackal please forgive me. I did see the "Hell yes" and enjoyed it very much.

[Zinto]

Since Crimson PMed me I will not drag my feet. I am in.

[Autumn]

Since CF did not massmail me, I guess I'm out.

[The Jackal]

Sorry CF I'm pretty upset with the redskins losing so I took it out and you and your shotgun to MY FACE.

[Abe Sargent]

Okay I massmailed everyone from the Evil Dead game that new signups were up for a quickstart. That might help.

Cool cool, I'ma wait until tomorrow morning when I can get a feel for the game. Expect a final decision at noon-sh. I'm currently leaning Sunday roles and start, Monday first deadline. I'm abotu 60/40 in that direction right now.

[J23]

I'm in, though participation may be limited due to being busy at work lately.

[Autumn]

I'm in, though participation may be limited due to being busy at work lately.

Also due to us lynching you D1.

[CrimsonFox]

missed Zinto

[MrBug708]

Ok

[Narcizo]

I'm in, though participation may be limited due to being busy at work lately.

What he said. In, particularly if we start this week.

[CrimsonFox]

But Narcizo, you made it to the bigtime last game when you were the first one nightkilled!

[J23]

Also due to us lynching you D1.

That might make it slightly more limited than I'm planning on.

[Thomkal]

Glad you are bringing this back Abe given with what happened in version one. I promise this time to not post when told not to, and not to provoke the person who will go on to destroy the game. ;)

Are there any rule changes from the first version?

[Danny]

Glad you are bringing this back Abe given with what happened in version one. I promise this time to not post when told not to, and not to provoke the person who will go on to destroy the game. ;)

Are there any rule changes from the first version?

I think we'll be ok. I don't think there is anyone playing WW currently who would do what was done in game 1. Well, if somehow I was a wolf and my follow wolves killed me night 1, then maybe :D

[Abe Sargent]

Glad you are bringing this back Abe given with what happened in version one. I promise this time to not post when told not to, and not to provoke the person who will go on to destroy the game. ;)

Are there any rule changes from the first version?

Yes, i made various tweaks and updates. I anted to make sure that anyone who remembered the rules posts from a certain someone wouldn't have info. I added somne things, and i took away some things.

[Abe Sargent]

It's official, I will send out your roles on Sunday Night, and Day One will end Monday night at 10 pm EST

[ntndeacon]

in Like Flint

[bhlloy]

i can't resist

[dzilla77]

In.

[Raiders Army]

Been a while and CF PM'ed me. I'll go. The night cycle is awfully short. 4 hours? Who's awake during the week from 10 PM to 2 AM?

[Chief Rum]

In!

[The Jackal]

Been a while and CF PM'ed me. I'll go. The night cycle is awfully short. 4 hours? Who's awake during the week from 10 PM to 2 AM?

West Coasters, I guess.

[Abe Sargent]

Been a while and CF PM'ed me. I'll go. The night cycle is awfully short. 4 hours? Who's awake during the week from 10 PM to 2 AM?

If you end up with a role that requires a night action, I always accommodate conditional pms. If you are the sheriff, and you tell me you want to guard Blade, unless he's lynched and then you want to guard Bek, then that's okay by me. I can figure that out for you.

[Abe Sargent]

I don't remember if anybody remembers, but this game is based on:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masque_of_the_Red_Death_%28Ravenloft%29

[CrimsonFox]

If you end up with a role that requires a night action, I always accommodate conditional pms. If you are the sheriff, and you tell me you want to guard Blade, unless he's lynched and then you want to guard Bek, then that's okay by me. I can figure that out for you.


LOL isn't that the same thing? :) (I've only recently become aware of THAT particular drama )

[mckerney]

In.

[MrBug708]

Didnt know it was a D&D game....I only knew of the poem

[EagleFan]

In

[Commo_Soldier]

In

[Abe Sargent]

LOL isn't that the same thing? :) (I've only recently become aware of THAT particular drama )

1). That's why I used those names and:
2). Don't edit your posts!

[CrimsonFox]

I never edit my posts.

[Narcizo]

Woohoo! Big turn-out so far.

[CrimsonFox]

I haven't actually STARTED in a game for awhile. I've forgot what it's like.
Probably get vanilla.

[mauchow]

i'll play

[Abe Sargent]

This game will be capped at 25 if we get a bigger response.

[Autumn]

I was going to ask you the source material, Abe. I know Ravenloft of course but had never heard of this Gothic Earth. That's really interesting.

[Autumn]

Told you we'd get the numbers for a Wednesday start ;-) People demand more Abe!

[CrimsonFox]

I've got like 3 copies of the box set. want one? :)

[Lathum]

This game will be capped at 25 if we get a bigger response.

If we get to 25 and someone wants to play they can have my spot. I have very little time to follow along these days.

[ntndeacon]

I haven't actually STARTED in a game for awhile. I've forgot what it's like.
Probably get vanilla.

Vote CF

Does that help CrimsonFox?

[Danny]

If we get over 25, you guys can have my spot... over my cold dead body

[CrimsonFox]

no ntn....it really doesn't :)

[SnDvls]

I'll play

[dubb93]

Sign me up.

Barkeep and I were turning in an extremely strong wolf performance the last time this was ran. Regardless of side this time around I have unfinished business with this rule set.

[Danny]

We didn't reach the max, but I think 22 is a great size for a WW game.

[Autumn]

Should be epic.

[Danny]

Yeah, until I get whacked night 1...

[hoopsguy]

Make it 23 - I think I've made enough progress with work this week that I can try to sneak in this game next week.

[CrimsonFox]

And there was much rejoicing.

[EagleFan]

vote CF

[Abe Sargent]

Sign ups until 5 pm Sunday EST. Roles will go out in the evening sometime - my guess is 8-9ish ET< with the first deadline Monday night.

[Grammaticus]

Looks like you still have a little room left. I'd like to jump in and play.

[saldana]

wow...this is gonna be a monster of a game

[Abe Sargent]

Sign ups are closed, I am working on selecting people now. I also have some rules to spring in if we had over 20 signups, so I need to do some cutting and pasting to bring those into play

[Abe Sargent]

Before we begin, I just want to take a moment and thank all of you for jumping in and playing this with me. I've wanted to finish this game for so long! I made some fun changes, tweaked some rules and roles and items, and I hope that you have as much fun playing this as I had making it. Enjoy!

[Abe Sargent]

Okay, I will be sending out roles and items shortly. Please do not post until I give the start post here in the thread

[Abe Sargent]

This is what every vanilla Lightbringer pm will say:



You are a vanilla Lightbringer. You begin the game with a XXXXXX. Go kick the ass of the unrighteous!

[Abe Sargent]

The role post for Lightbrgners reads almost identically, except I say you are a Lightbringer and a XXX, You begin....

[Abe Sargent]

All pms have been sent. if you did not get one, please let me know ASAP. Thanks!

[hoopsguy]

This is what every vanilla Lightbringer pm will say:

I can confirm this.

[Abe Sargent]

Your meeting has become fraught with the cloud of suspicion that hangs over each of you. You've had to be loners to survive the Red Death, and you do not know each other that well. It is very possible that one or more of you are bribed, enspelled, charmed, impostered, or many things worse. Far worse.

However, the message you received from your elder was clear when you got it this morning. There were not supposed to be twenty-four of you here. How many there were the message did not state, but fewer than that number were invited here to Cape Girardeau to plot against the Red Death's planned actions in the World Fair in Chicago later this summer.

With unknown enemies and unknown numbers, and a certainly that the Red Death will continue to subvert your allies, you need to root out and find the servants now, before it is nigh too late. You have your powers. You have your items. Do you have the wits it will take to survive?


Day One has begun. It ends Monday at 10:00 pm EST

[Commo_Soldier]

Checking in.

[Grammaticus]

Checking in too, just a vanilla lightbringer here.

[dzilla77]

Vanilla lightbringer here.

[Thomkal]

Well disappointed that I'm just a vanilla Lightbringer this time around. :( But very happy that Abe is running this game again-its really a fun ruleset.

And since had the game continued, he likely would have fooled many of us, I think its only appropriate that I:

vote dubb

[dzilla77]

You know its never too early to get a second candidate out - for no particular reason

vote ntn

[EagleFan]

checking in.

[Thomkal]

So for those who played in the first game, check the rules out-there are more roles and in this version we CANNOT pass to a role only to a person. So be careful who you send your items to.

[ntndeacon]

No ryhme or reason yet. perhaps our "randomness" will lead one of the Red into self preservation mode quickly and we can get them quickly.

[ntndeacon]

Vote mauboy

[MrBug708]

Hi

[Autumn]

Big, big game. And since the number of bad guys grows in this game, I assume there's a smaller than normal amount of them right now, and some may not be able to converse. Which means we're in it for the long haul probably before info gets useful.

I'm heading to bed but should be on regularly tomorrow.

[CrimsonFox]

vanilla soda flavored lightbringer here. I will not be kicking anyone's ass hoever because it against my religion.

[CrimsonFox]

Big, big game.


I shall be eating honeycombs whilst I play this game. Because honeycomb's big, yeahyeahyeah. It's not small nonono. HIt has a big big taste in a bigbig bite.

And I will pray to a big god while I kneel in a big church. BIG time!

[The Jackal]

I'm going to re-read the rules when I'm more awake but my first takeaway is:

Roles revealed on death, conversion will happen.

Looks like we have a lot of vanillas so far, you can throw my hat in that ring as well. I bet we do have a fair amount of vanillas in the game but hopefully we can get lucky and hit some bad guys early on.

[CrimsonFox]

Rule or no rules, I'm still remembering how I got ganked last time. WHen the big bad deathmonsters ended the day early. Be wary of such evil tricks my lightbrothers.

[hoopsguy]

I didn't play this one last time around, so I'm a Red Death rookie. Be gentle.

[CrimsonFox]

So you are admitting you are a LOW LEVEL RED DEATH player? HMMMMMM??????

[hoopsguy]

I guess so ... and you are making me feel like I need to re-read the rules again because I don't recall seeing high/low level stuff.

Sigh ... as if I needed another reason to stay up for another 10-15 minutes.

[CrimsonFox]

Hmmmm evil creatures stay up late. Good people go to bed.

[mckerney]

Good evening.

[hoopsguy]

Ah, I see what you did :)

I've already copped to having the vanilla Lightbringer PM. But a re-read of the rules reminded me that everyone has an item. Probably not all as hardcore as the one I got (right, like I would be talking about it if it was something that sounded particularly cool) but everyone should be bringing some kind of lumber to the plate, so to speak, on Day 1.

[Zinto]

Every Monday is terrible for me so once again I will have an hour at about 2:30 to make a decision ect. ect.

[SnDvls]

Lightbringer checking in

[Narcizo]

OK so looks like we potentially have vampires and lycanthropes in the game. Looks like the Goodies have a lot of powers and items and stuff along with the chance that a lynch won't kill them while the baddies have the ability to corrupt people and unknown other powers. So we probably are never going to know how many bad guys there are left at any stage. And it's going to be allround difficult to track.

[Narcizo]

Woh! That looks like a really short message on my mega-wide screen. Looked much meatier when I had it in the quick post window.

[Narcizo]

Vote MrBug

Two letters? Is that all you could spare us? You could at least have made it five with a "Hello". We'll be having none of your two-letters here thankyouverymuch.

[saldana]

chekcing in

[CrimsonFox]

The biggest future plan of action I can think of is: On Day three, we should lynch one of a group of people who people are always saying are "good wolves".

[CrimsonFox]

and really...if you find out what your item does and it's a good thing and it will help the village....use it if it will help the village please. Otherwise it may be wasted, dropped or fall into wolves hands when you die.

[Narcizo]

Oh I shan't be around much at all for most of this game by the way. New open-plan office ftl. And evenings are pretty hectic already, as well.

[CrimsonFox]

blech open office bites. hatehatehate

[CrimsonFox]

Your meeting has become fraught with the cloud of suspicion that hangs over each of you. You've had to be loners to survive the Red Death, and you do not know each other that well. It is very possible that one or more of you are bribed, enspelled, charmed, impostered, or many things worse. Far worse.

However, the message you received from your elder was clear when you got it this morning. There were not supposed to be twenty-four of you here. How many there were the message did not state, but fewer than that number were invited here to Cape Girardeau to plot against the Red Death's planned actions in the World Fair in Chicago later this summer.

With unknown enemies and unknown numbers, and a certainly that the Red Death will continue to subvert your allies, you need to root out and find the servants now, before it is nigh too late. You have your powers. You have your items. Do you have the wits it will take to survive?


Day One has begun. It ends Monday at 10:00 pm EST


"Well?" I say to the elder, "Why don't you tell us how many were supposed to be here and who you DID invite and everyone not on that list is a badguy. Am I right people? And if you won't tell us, elder, then you, yes you Rabbi Schlagel, are a wolf!"

[Thomkal]

OOC: Not sure how much I will be around today-sprinkler system broke last week and that company is supposed to be showing up some time today to fix it, and then Friday we heard a loud bang somewhere near/in the house and could not figure out what it was...until we went in the garage and tried to open the garage door...and nothing happened. Seems the noise we heard was the big ass spring that makes the door open and close blow up big time. :( And the door would not open manually, so we were stuck here all weekend. So I will be either dealing with them today as well, going to the grocery store to do what we tried to do Friday...or sitting here crying over my emptier wallet after having to pay for two repairs.

[CrimsonFox]

So um...does that mean you're a wolf or what?

[hoopsguy]

LOL, I just had to call for garage door repairs as well. Small world.

[Autumn]

"Well?" I say to the elder, "Why don't you tell us how many were supposed to be here and who you DID invite and everyone not on that list is a badguy. Am I right people? And if you won't tell us, elder, then you, yes you Rabbi Schlagel, are a wolf!"

Nice. This could be the shortest game of Werewolf ever.

"Oh sorry, here's the invite list, my mistake."

[Autumn]

Vote early, vote often. I said that a few times and so now if i don't vote early and vote often people think I'm a wolf.

So, for no particular reason,

<b>vote J23</b>

[EagleFan]

vote Danny

Yeah, I know he's a Raiders fan but that's close enough to San Francisco.

[EagleFan]

Now I will return the ledge that I need to be talked off of after yesterday.... :(

[MrBug708]

I think my item is fairly worthless :(

[MrBug708]

Well, re-reading the directions, maybe it's not so bad

[J23]

Checking in. Vanilla Villager and all that. Having a re-read of the rules now for good measure.

[Abe Sargent]

Morning all!

[The Jackal]

VOTE DANNY

[The Jackal]

I tend to think my item is a red herring but you never know!

[bhlloy]

"Well?" I say to the elder, "Why don't you tell us how many were supposed to be here and who you DID invite and everyone not on that list is a badguy. Am I right people? And if you won't tell us, elder, then you, yes you Rabbi Schlagel, are a wolf!"

CF wins

I guess seeing as we are putting on second votes now, for no particular reason other than I'd like to see him vocal early so we can get a better read than we usually do (the strong wolf argument)

vote dubb

[dzilla77]

Not much new to see since I was here last night. Since I didn't play in the first one, I am not sure what it all means. Still sticking with my original vote, but may move it depending on how the race shapes up.

[Commo_Soldier]

Vote Bhlloy

Only because of how close you placed the second second vote on someone. Open to changing it later.

[Commo_Soldier]

Votes thus far from my tally.

Dubb - Thomkal(83), Bhlloy (125)
Ntndeacon - Dzilla77 (84)
Mauboy - Ntndeacon (88)
MrBug - Narcizo (105)
J23 - Autumn (116)
Danny - EagleFan (117), The Jackal (123)
Bhlloy - Commo Soldier (127)

[hoopsguy]

Sure, I'll go ahead and jump into the voting fray. Not with any in-game logic, but going with a "he survived and won last game, so may as well get him as random to start this ame" vote.

VOTE MAUBOY

[Thomkal]

As in the first version of this game, I think odds are stacked against my fellow villagers due to corruption-both from the Servants and the chance that a couple of the roles can be corrupted by the use of their power. But we do get a couple of new roles (Tinkerer and Lifegiver) to help the village so probably better balanced than the first version.

So I think its important that if you get information that can be of use to the village, you reveal it sooner rather than later just in case you get corrupted before you reveal it. There are roles (and likely items) that can protect you if you do reveal so give them time to give you that protection.

People on the block should be ready to reveal if a roled Lightbringer (give us time to react to a reveal please) and should be ready to reveal item they started with/received/passed as the game goes on so we can try to track them and catch people in lies. We've lost the ability to pass items to a role this time around, so you should either know for sure the role of the person you send an item to, and/or feel pretty confident they are not a Servant.

[dubb93]

CF wins

I guess seeing as we are putting on second votes now, for no particular reason other than I'd like to see him vocal early so we can get a better read than we usually do (the strong wolf argument)

vote dubb

So let me get this straight, you are worried that I of all people could slip UTR? Have you ever played with me? We both know the answer to that as well as we both know the odds of me slipping through this UTR are the same as Saldana's first game post admitting he is really a she.

[Chief Rum]

Ah, I see what you did :)

I've already copped to having the vanilla Lightbringer PM. But a re-read of the rules reminded me that everyone has an item. Probably not all as hardcore as the one I got (right, like I would be talking about it if it was something that sounded particularly cool) but everyone should be bringing some kind of lumber to the plate, so to speak, on Day 1.

Unless I miss my guess, we have received similar items.

[dubb93]

I would loom strongly at those who put 2nd votes on Danny and I early.

[dubb93]

I would loom strongly at those who put 2nd votes on Danny and I early.

Loom=look

[Chief Rum]

I am a vanilla Lightbringer. Of course, who's gonna say otherwise. But for me, it's true.

[Chief Rum]

I would loom strongly at those who put 2nd votes on Danny and I early.

Hmm, too early. I tend to agree historically. That was once a trend. Now, though, it has been so over-mentioned in games that villagers have become desensitized to throwing out second votes. And wolves have been skittish about attracting the attention it brings.

I am not saying these second voters are good. But taking that bit of info alone and extrapolating it out to them being wolves will take a good bit of work.

Of course, it's Day One, so who knows a damn thing? You can get lynched on Day One for posting two letters in your initial post.

[ntndeacon]

I tend to think my item is a red herring but you never know!

So it is like Communism.

[dubb93]

CR jumping in here and deflecting attention from Jackal and Bholly is interesting.

[ntndeacon]

Hmm, too early. I tend to agree historically. That was once a trend. Now, though, it has been so over-mentioned in games that villagers have become desensitized to throwing out second votes. And wolves have been skittish about attracting the attention it brings.

I am not saying these second voters are good. But taking that bit of info alone and extrapolating it out to them being wolves will take a good bit of work.

Of course, it's Day One, so who knows a damn thing? You can get lynched on Day One for posting two letters in your initial post.

we all know that a wolf never posts 4 letters in their initial post.

[ntndeacon]

CR jumping in here and deflecting attention from Jackal and Bholly is interesting.

eh. not yet. I assumed it was just being funny.

[SnDvls]

vote TheJackal

no reason other than a quick 2nd vote on Danny...subject to change

[Lathum]

checking in

Vote Danny

[Chief Rum]

CR jumping in here and deflecting attention from Jackal and Bholly is interesting.

Heh... now we have circles within circles. Ah, but if I am a wolf with my fellow wolf buddies The Jackal and bhlloy, you then presume I as a third (and presumeably unlikely to be more at the start of this ruleset) would willingly link myself with them right at the start.

That strike as something I would do, dubb? ;)

Seriously, though, I would say my earlier observation was in the form of asking that we be cautious and not start to run away on anything on the basis of slim reason. Your suggestion is as good as any and as likely as producing a wolf, and we're not going to see anything but slim reasoning for any votes today. But I wanted to deflect so that we don't get caught running this down and don't have a proper discussion of other candidates as a result.

[hoopsguy]

CR jumping in here and deflecting attention from Jackal and Bholly is interesting.

Actually, Chief Rum is the one person that I've started to put a smidge of trust upon at this stage in the game. I had put something out earlier in a post that he seems to have caught, and with him being the first to comment on it in-thread makes me give him some early marginal trust.

That said, I wouldn't want to see you or Danny end up as the Day 1 lynch options. I think my vote today, at least where it stands right now, supports that position.

[dubb93]

checking in

Vote Danny

Care to elaborate?

[Chief Rum]

That said, I wouldn't want to see you or Danny end up as the Day 1 lynch options. I think my vote today, at least where it stands right now, supports that position.

Yeah, I agree here, too, I don't like seeing dubb on the block already. I'm not interested in putting out one of our best players early, even if he's a dangerous wolf.

[dubb93]

Actually, Chief Rum is the one person that I've started to put a smidge of trust upon at this stage in the game. I had put something out earlier in a post that he seems to have caught, and with him being the first to comment on it in-thread makes me give him some early marginal trust.

That said, I wouldn't want to see you or Danny end up as the Day 1 lynch options. I think my vote today, at least where it stands right now, supports that position.

I'm going to assume you hinted about your object. My only problem with that is the rules say the wolves have objects too.

[Chief Rum]

(when he's a wolf...not suggesting anything there about dubb's allegiance, of which I am not (yet) privy)

[Chief Rum]

Come to think of it, I'm not too fond of Danny being voted out early either. Come on folks let's not put the All Star team out to pasture early now, right? I mean, there are 24 of us. I would think we could avouid lynching our best players on Day One. :p

[hoopsguy]

I'm going to assume you hinted about your object. My only problem with that is the rules say the wolves have objects too.

Went to double-check that, as I didn't recall that being the case. But you are correct.

There are many items in this game, and every player will begin with a random item, even Servants.

So pull back that smidge of trust for Chief, and I'm back to a net zero on everyone in the game.

[Commo_Soldier]

Actually, Chief Rum is the one person that I've started to put a smidge of trust upon at this stage in the game. I had put something out earlier in a post that he seems to have caught, and with him being the first to comment on it in-thread makes me give him some early marginal trust.

That said, I wouldn't want to see you or Danny end up as the Day 1 lynch options. I think my vote today, at least where it stands right now, supports that position.

Not sure I would give that any trust as you have stated every one must have an item and it is entirely possible a wolf could have the same item as you. As for everyone bringing lumber from looking at abe's posts some would probably have charms. What are our thoughts on these? I would guess they protect us from conversion, or at least give us a better chance to resist. Maybe we should get it to the people that gave spell abilities and can convert because of using it.

[Narcizo]

I would loom strongly at those who put 2nd votes on Danny and I early.

I actually quite like the idea of looming strongly on someone.

Check out Mr Big Head saying he's a leet villager though.

[Chief Rum]

Went to double-check that, as I didn't recall that being the case. But you are correct.



So pull back that smidge of trust for Chief, and I'm back to a net zero on everyone in the game.

Bummer. Out from under hoops' security blanket, I feel a little bit more alone and vulnerable. :D

[Narcizo]

On the other hand, I do find the continued trend of day one voting of Danny to be noteworthy and not a bit suspicious. The only guy with a vote there is

Unvote MrBug
Vote The Jackal

[Narcizo]

Not adverse to looming strongly (sic) at Lathum at the moment either. He says he won't be around which could mean he could sail through the game.

[Commo_Soldier]

Looks like the first part of my comment was kind of addressed in the time it took me to post, hate having to use phone during day. But you did say earlier hoops you looked at the rules and saw everyone gets an item, so not sure how you missed on you a second recheck of the rules to see wolves get items to. Not saying you are a wolf because of it, just making an observation.

[hoopsguy]

Commo, I did re-read the rules last night. And I'll likely reference the rules another 10-20 times before the game is out, assuming I'm fortunate enough to stick around for a few days.

Maybe it is a reading comprehension issue, but I normally have to hit that page a ton of times to make sure I'm properly processing everything and that my assumptions are good. When I read it last night I had thought it said something to the extent of all Lightbringers start with an item. The point Dubb raised made me double-check this and sure enough it is all players.

[Autumn]

Do we know what happens to items on lynch or night kill? I'll look into that in the rules, it would be good to know. CF said we did poorly last game utilizing our items and I'd like to see us make good use of them here. Particularly if certain items will be better used in certain people's hands.

[Commo_Soldier]

I'm sure we all will, just was curious because you said everyone received an item earlier. As I stated, don't think you're a wolf at this point just for that, your explanation seems you just misspoke.

[dubb93]

Check out Mr Big Head saying he's a leet villager though.

You are either trying to make a joke or trying to troll me.

Please direct quote where I said this.

[Commo_Soldier]

Do we know what happens to items on lynch or night kill? I'll look into that in the rules, it would be good to know. CF said we did poorly last game utilizing our items and I'd like to see us make good use of them here. Particularly if certain items will be better used in certain people's hands.

If I read rules correctly, wolves take all items off of night kill victim. since item passing is last we will have to be careful on starting where items are going before deadline.

[Lathum]

Care to elaborate?

nothing to elaborate on. Got a 23/1 shot to get a wolf.

[Chief Rum]

You are either trying to make a joke or trying to troll me.

Please direct quote where I said this.

Narc's joking.

[mauchow]

Vote lathum

Villager checking in

[Narcizo]

I would loom strongly at those who put 2nd votes on Danny and I early.

Suggests you consider yourself too good a village to be getting an early day one 2nd vote (I thought). Maybe you just meant that anyone putting a second vote on someone at this stage was suspect, which I disagree with strongly.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. And yeah, it's what passes for a joke around my way.

[Chief Rum]

lol...mauboy1 floats into the game on the traditional Vote Lathum parachute.

[Narcizo]

I'm happier voting Lathum than teh Jackal.

Unvote Jackal
Vote Lathum

I'm not around round deadline so I have to get my wild unvote/vote sequences in early.

[Chief Rum]

FTR, I do consider dubb to be in the small group of players I don't want to vote for early because of his value to the village if he's on our side. It would have to be a compelling case, which is rare on Day One, for me to want to do that vote.

He, Danny, hoops and you, Narc, are good examples of players I have in that grouping in my mind. There are others, but just grabbing names off the top of my head.

[dubb93]

Suggests you consider yourself too good a village to be getting an early day one 2nd vote (I thought). Maybe you just meant that anyone putting a second vote on someone at this stage was suspect, which I disagree with strongly.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. And yeah, it's what passes for a joke around my way.

No I consider Danny too good for a D1 vote. I thought I was pretty clear why the guy who voted me was sketchy. He seemed to be afraid I would slip UTR which IMO is laughable. Neither of them IMO were/are good votes.

Granted it is D1, but that would be like me stepping in and voting Hoops b/c he is illogical. It just doesn't make any sense as a voting basis.

[dubb93]

Vote Lathum

Too early to claim self preservation?

[saldana]

ok, so a couple things here...first, just to make dubb happy, i'm a she...that said, there is absolutely no way Dubb makes it through any game UTR

second, EF...yeah...I'm a niners fan...I wont vote for you cuz i figure you are already close to ending it all anyway, so i wont push you any further than that craptastic team of yours did yesterday

last, just to preserve my standard operating procedure (and consequently make him unhappy)

vote dubb93

[Autumn]

Okay yes, the bad guys get items off anyone they kill. But I wonder what happens to people we lynch. They can't pass the item until night, so they're out of luck there. Hopefully those go in some random method and not to bad guys as well.

[saldana]

and now that i have maintained the status quo
unvote dubb

for those of you that dont know...i always vote for dubb on the first day in every game we play together, but i agree with the idea that he is too valuable to take out so early, i just like to mess with him...there is nothing else to see here other than a long standing WW rivalry, so before anyone decides to read into it, don't.

[Danny]

I wake up and we're on page four already

[Autumn]

I wake up and we're on page four already

Don't worry, we lynched you already.

[Danny]

The biggest future plan of action I can think of is: On Day three, we should lynch one of a group of people who people are always saying are "good wolves".

Good thing I am a crappy wolf

[Danny]

vote Danny

Yeah, I know he's a Raiders fan but that's close enough to San Francisco.

Are you still mad I beat you in fantasy football?

[Zinto]

I hate Mondays! I am going to throw a second vote on J23 because I want to and he made me beat myself up, for the majority of last game.

Vote J23

[Danny]

So let me get this straight, you are worried that I of all people could slip UTR? Have you ever played with me? We both know the answer to that as well as we both know the odds of me slipping through this UTR are the same as Saldana's first game post admitting he is really a she.

Damn Dubb, you are in this game? You were so under the rader, I did not notice.

[Danny]

I would loom strongly at those who put 2nd votes on Danny and I early.

I agree with this, as I am reading through, I was surprised about your votes (except the first one).

[Grammaticus]

nothing to elaborate on. Got a 23/1 shot to get a wolf.

So,you know there is only one wolf? Or am I misreading your ratio 23/1?

[Narcizo]

Good thing I am a crappy wolf

Ahh. The old "I'm a crap wolf" defence. Tish and Pish I say.

Although, true for me as well. Except when I'm getting a lot of coaching from a level-headed experienced wolfie. If I ever get in a team with hoops or Chief then the WW world had better watch out. Oh yes. Or not.

[Danny]

Don't worry, we lynched you already.

Damn! Oh well, good luck village!

[Danny]

Ahh. The old "I'm a crap wolf" defence. Tish and Pish I say.

Although, true for me as well. Except when I'm getting a lot of coaching from a level-headed experienced wolfie. If I ever get in a team with hoops or Chief then the WW world had better watch out. Oh yes. Or not.

I actually don't think I am crappy wolf, but I do think I am a better villager than wolf. And you're not a crappy wolf either.

[Narcizo]

Are you still mad I beat you in fantasy football?

I bet your team had a great centaur forward.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! HA! I literally just thought of that now. I was toying with throwing a ghoul keeper in there as well, but common-sense saved the day.

Except you all call it soccer. :(

[Autumn]

I actually don't think I am crappy wolf, but I do think I am a better villager than wolf. And you're not a crappy wolf either.

Get a room.

[Autumn]

So,you know there is only one wolf? Or am I misreading your ratio 23/1?

I don't remember the last game very clearly. Did it start with one wolf?

[Autumn]

I bet your team had a great centaur forward.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! HA! I literally just thought of that now. I was toying with throwing a ghoul keeper in there as well, but common-sense saved the day.

Except you all call it soccer. :(

*slow clap*

[Danny]

I caught up and re read the rules. I don't have too much more to add. We have quite a few roles, but due to the large number of players, most are still vanilla villagers. In general I would lean toward 1 or at the most 2 starting Red Death members. If there is one, the leader almost certainly has some sort of anti lynching power and the ability to quickly convert night 1.

[Danny]

Get a room.

I don't know what Narcizo looks like, I would need to see pics first.

[Narcizo]

So,you know there is only one wolf? Or am I misreading your ratio 23/1?

Or you're trying to make too much out of an electronic slip of the toungue.

[Lathum]

So,you know there is only one wolf? Or am I misreading your ratio 23/1?

yeah, one wolf ,me.

Lynch me and it is game over!

[Lathum]

dola- what I meant by 23/1 was D1 there is no one that is cleared and we have almost no information, so there are 23 players whi could be wolves, I'm the one who I know for a fact is not a wolf.

[Narcizo]

If there is one, the leader almost certainly has some sort of anti lynching power and the ability to quickly convert night 1.

Pretty radical having just the one starting baddy. Particularly if you think there is a vampire and a were-something role in there to match the villager roles. The rules/flavour seemed to suggest that conversions would happen early in the game. I think bad guy counting isn't going to be a very productive avenue this game (did I say that already)?

[Autumn]

Pretty radical having just the one starting baddy. Particularly if you think there is a vampire and a were-something role in there to match the villager roles. The rules/flavour seemed to suggest that conversions would happen early in the game. I think bad guy counting isn't going to be a very productive avenue this game (did I say that already)?

Yeah, well, this is an Abe game, so radical is the new normal.

I agree though there's probably at least a couple bad guys, maybe who can't communicate. Vampire, werewolf, insurance agent.

[Narcizo]

yeah, one wolf ,me.

Lynch me and it is game over!

Meh. I'm getting "don't want to lynch Lathum" feelings now.

Ne'er mind. I shall manfully resist them.

[SnDvls]

Is Raiders Army the only person not to check in?

[Lathum]

Meh. I'm getting "don't want to lynch Lathum" feelings now.

Ne'er mind. I shall manfully resist them.

amen, brother, amen

[The Jackal]

Well enough time has passed that I can talk about my vote, it was on purpose and I didn't post reasoning intentionally. So often recently I've just been doing random D1 votes but I wanted to see what would happen in the immediate aftermath of me putting a good player up at 2 votes. I never wanted Danny to be a real candidate, just wanted to gauge reactions.

UNVOTE DANNY
VOTE BHLLOY

[SnDvls]

here's what I have for vote count

dubb - Thomkal (83),Bholly (125)
ntn - dzilla77 (84)
mauboy - ntn (88), hoops (129)
J23 - Autumn (116), Zinto (178)
Danny - EagleFan (117), Lathum (142)
Bhlloy - Commo Soldier (127), The Jackal (199)
The Jackal - SnDvls (141)
Lathum - mauboy1 (164), Narcizo (167), dubb93 (170)

Yet to vote: CrimsonFox, Danny, MrBug, J23, Raiders Army, Chief Rum, mckerney, Grammaticus


Voted then unvoted

MrBug - Narcizo (101)
The Jackal - Narcizo (154)
Dubb - saldana (171)
Danny - The Jackal (199)

[The Jackal]

That vote would probably logically lead me to thinking Danny was bad if bhlloy is, not set in stone at all.

[Chief Rum]

here's what I have for vote count

dubb - Thomkal (83),Bholly (125)
ntn - dzilla77 (84)
mauboy - ntn (88), hoops (129)
J23 - Autumn (116), Zinto (178)
Danny - EagleFan (117), Lathum (142)
Bhlloy - Commo Soldier (127), The Jackal (199)
The Jackal - SnDvls (141)
Lathum - mauboy1 (164), Narcizo (167), dubb93 (170)

Yet to vote: CrimsonFox, Danny, MrBug, J23, Raiders Army, Chief Rum, mckerney, Grammaticus


Voted then unvoted

MrBug - Narcizo (101)
The Jackal - Narcizo (154)
Dubb - saldana (171)
Danny - The Jackal (199)

FYI...only 23 players shown here, but we have 24 players. I got lazy and didn't try to confirm who.

[Narcizo]

That vote would probably logically lead me to thinking Danny was bad if bhlloy is, not set in stone at all.

Ummm.. Sorry. I'm not following, well, any of this. How has your Danny-voting antics lead to voting Bhlloy?

[Narcizo]

Leaning to voting Gramm really but Lathum looks like a more viable candidate for now so I'll stick with that. See you all.

[mauchow]

Leaning to voting Gramm really but Lathum looks like a more viable candidate for now so I'll stick with that. See you all.

You always found a way to mention my name on day one.. but not this time, unless I missed it.. it feels strange.

[J23]

I don't remember the last game very clearly. Did it start with one wolf?

It started with 2 wolves (mau and I) and I was able to corrupt Zinto to use his hand as a psuedo-wolf and convert Chief as a 3rd (4th if you count the hand) wolf.

[Autumn]

It started with 2 wolves (mau and I) and I was able to corrupt Zinto to use his hand as a psuedo-wolf and convert Chief as a 3rd (4th if you count the hand) wolf.

I'm sorry, I meant the last Red Death game. Funny that the last game had so much conversion also.

[dubb93]

Quite frankly I voted Lathum soley to see his reaction. His general apathy towards the run on him could be telling. The Lathum I'm used to would have voted for each of us in sessession and labeled the run a grand wolf conspiracy.

I'm unsure of what to make of this.

[dubb93]

Thinking back the last game was much like Evil Dead. It started with two wolves. There were two early conversions. I also had a dark charm which made me survive an excorsim. I also had an object that allowed me to night fall.

And most importantly a tie means everyone is lynched. Never forget this.

[J23]

I'm guessing it's just Lathum being busy more than anything else. I fully expect him to pop in and pick a fight with someone voting for him and swap his vote a few times before deadline still.

[SnDvls]

FYI...only 23 players shown here, but we have 24 players. I got lazy and didn't try to confirm who.

thanks it's Saldana who voted and unvoted so he should be under the "yet to vote"

[J23]

Vote bhlloy

[SnDvls]

unvote Jackal

[Autumn]

Quite frankly I voted Lathum soley to see his reaction. His general apathy towards the run on him could be telling. The Lathum I'm used to would have voted for each of us in sessession and labeled the run a grand wolf conspiracy.

I'm unsure of what to make of this.

I think this is just New Lathum. He's much more mellow now that he's got a kid ;-) Kind of the opposite of me.

[The Jackal]

Ummm.. Sorry. I'm not following, well, any of this. How has your Danny-voting antics lead to voting Bhlloy?

Because he voted right after me to give dubb his second vote.

[SnDvls]

I think this is just New Lathum. He's much more mellow now that he's got a kid ;-) Kind of the opposite of me.

funny this was my first thought too. Kids do that to ya.....at least it did to me

[SnDvls]

for those who haven't notices the Sheriff has no jurisdiction here as he's from Arkansas and we're in Missouri (Yes, I'm sure it's just a typo, but thought it was funny :shrugs: as I was rereading the rules/roles)

[mckerney]

I think this is just New Lathum. He's much more mellow now that he's got a kid ;-) Kind of the opposite of me.

New New Lathum?

[ntndeacon]

Lathum Classic is right around the bend.

[Grammaticus]

I don't remember the last game very clearly. Did it start with one wolf?

I did not know either, I didn't play in it or read the posts. From other posts it sounds like 2 wolves. If that game had less players, then maybe this one has an extra wolf. It just seems unlikely there would be just one. If the day one lynch was a lucky hit, it would be game over and most GMs would not want that to happen.

[Autumn]

It would be kind of hilarious if a 25 person game ended in one day actually.

Yeah I would guess maybe 3 bad guys.

[mckerney]

Vote bhlloy

[Lathum]

please, don't kill me, you'll regret it.

( insert cryptic message about important role)

[The Jackal]

Interesting run on bhlloy

[SnDvls]

vote J23

trying to keep this from turning into a landslide on Bhlloy and I'm not fond of voting for Lathum either.

[CrimsonFox]

So it is like Communism.


I have flames ....flames....flaiming....on the side of my face...

[SnDvls]

dola - will be interesting if it stays status quo who Bholloy puts his vote on too and why that person

[The Jackal]

There's so many people in this game it seems likely this is mostly villager motivated, especially if the number of wolves is small to start, but you never know.

[CrimsonFox]

for those who haven't notices the Sheriff has no jurisdiction here as he's from Arkansas and we're in Missouri (Yes, I'm sure it's just a typo, but thought it was funny :shrugs: as I was rereading the rules/roles)


That makes him more dangerous not less dangerous as he's being played by Samuel L Jackson. :D

[SnDvls]

vote update

dubb - Thomkal (83),Bholly (125)
ntn - dzilla77 (84)
mauboy - ntn (88), hoops (129)
J23 - Autumn (116), Zinto (178) SnDvls (225)
Danny - EagleFan (117), Lathum (142)
Bhlloy - Commo Soldier (127), The Jackal (199), J23 (212), mckerney (222)
Lathum - mauboy1 (164), Narcizo (167), dubb93 (170)

Yet to vote: CrimsonFox, Danny, saldana, MrBug, Raiders Army, Chief Rum, Grammaticus


Voted then unvoted

MrBug - Narcizo (101)
The Jackal - Narcizo (154)
Dubb - saldana (171)
Danny - The Jackal (199)
The Jackal - SnDvls (213)

[CrimsonFox]

I think my item is fairly worthless :(

I have no idea what my item does as well. Hoping it gives me superduper bonus but there is no description of it.

Hmmmm...

It might just be something shiny to have so that I look cool

[CrimsonFox]

People on the block should be ready to reveal if a roled Lightbringer (give us time to react to a reveal please) and should be ready to reveal item they started with/received/passed as the game goes on so we can try to track them and catch people in lies. We've lost the ability to pass items to a role this time around, so you should either know for sure the role of the person you send an item to, and/or feel pretty confident they are not a Servant.


Wowsers I don't remember that but yes that sure sounds mondopowerful info for the village. NOt surprised it was taken out.

[CrimsonFox]

eenie...meenie...miney...

vote mauboy :D

[The Jackal]

eenie...meenie...miney...

vote mauboy :D

Interesting vote, putting the third person at 3 behind bhlloy

[Grammaticus]

I'm going to put a placeholder vote out.

ntn

Nothing really to go on at this point, so I will keep it with one of the current 7 options out there.

[Grammaticus]

That is:

Vote ntn

[CrimsonFox]

CR jumping in here and deflecting attention from Jackal and Bholly is interesting.


This sounds like "dubb being dubb as a villager" talk

[Abe Sargent]

for those who haven't notices the Sheriff has no jurisdiction here as he's from Arkansas and we're in Missouri (Yes, I'm sure it's just a typo, but thought it was funny :shrugs: as I was rereading the rules/roles)

It's not a typo.

[Chief Rum]

We have a serious spread of votes here. I will be curious to see if we see some consolidation or not. I would think if we do, maybe we'll have a hint of a wolf being involved. If we don't, chances are the village is blowing smoke up its own ass, and looking to lynch any of a number of villagers (no wolves in the mix).

Of course, if the theory of just two wolves is true, it may just be the wolves have no real ability to affect the outcome or direction of voting, with how many players we have in the game.

[ntndeacon]

It's not a typo.

ok that is interesting then.

[CrimsonFox]

Do we know what happens to items on lynch or night kill? I'll look into that in the rules, it would be good to know. CF said we did poorly last game utilizing our items and I'd like to see us make good use of them here. Particularly if certain items will be better used in certain people's hands.

I believe I red items go to bad guys upon death. Maybe that's just night kill. Don't know. But it IS an evil world so it might be on lynch too.

[saldana]

i dont think it does us any good to have a runaway vote on day one.

also, not only does lathum have a kid now, but he also has a job, so his ranting and raving time has been reduced to a minimum

vote j23

[saldana]

for those who haven't notices the Sheriff has no jurisdiction here as he's from Arkansas and we're in Missouri (Yes, I'm sure it's just a typo, but thought it was funny :shrugs: as I was rereading the rules/roles)

"what in the world is a texas county mountie doing in arkansas?"

[MrBug708]

Just got back from subbing

Vote Crimson Fox

[MrBug708]

Dola

That's for converting me in Chubby's game

[Chief Rum]

ok that is interesting then.

Perhaps. I would think he's just normally a Sheriff in Arkansas, and he's only in Missouri now because he's at this Lightbringer conference. That doesn't mean he doesn't have the powers or abilities he would normally have. What he is in Arkansas or here doesn't matter anyway--we know what abilities he has in the here and the now.

[CrimsonFox]

Thinking back the last game was much like Evil Dead. It started with two wolves. There were two early conversions. I also had a dark charm which made me survive an excorsim. I also had an object that allowed me to night fall.

And most importantly a tie means everyone is lynched. Never forget this.


I KNEW IT! It was YOU that killed me. GRRRRR :redface: :)

[ntndeacon]

Unvote mau
Vote bhlloy

Since I need to go for the evening, I am changing to one of the now 3 leaders. (I am including Lathum as he isn't too far behind the leaders.) I assume there will be a bit more moving around before the end but that is it for me. Talk to y'all this evening!

[dubb93]

Considering I wasn't too fond of my Lathum vote to begin with and he is claiming roled it would be stupid of me to leave it.

Unvote Lathum

I would love to play this out some more an see how things shake but I am likely to be busy the rest of the way at work so I need to vote.

Vote Bholly

I was the first to cast stones at him for being worried I would slip UTR which is just odd to me. I think it was inevitable that my vote was going to end up here anyway.

[mauchow]

unvote lathum
vote dubb