The Trump Presidency 2.0

[RainMaker]

I don't think Hegseth's "pastor" understands that Christ was crucified for challenging clergy on their false teachings. I honestly think many American Conservative "Christians" don't actually like Jesus.
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I feel like American Evangelicals are sort of their own sect of Christianity like Mormons. Totally divorced from Christianity you see around the world.

[Young Drachma]

I feel like American Evangelicals are sort of their own sect of Christianity like Mormons. Totally divorced from Christianity you see around the world.

I mean, Anglicans in the Global South and/or Evangelical movements in those parts of the world too. The main difference is the money the two you mentioned have combined to implment their lens.

[miami_fan]

Haven't head much from or about DeSantis. Is he purposely laying low and letting everyone around Trump shoot themselves in the foot or is he a non factor in the GOP at this point?

Well...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/donald-trump-says-hed-consider-210322410.html

Ronnie just signed a law overturning city bans on gas powered lawn equipment so that would be something to look for out on the campaign trail.

Anyways, my guess is he is waiting to see what happens in the GOP gubernatorial primary. Byron Donalds is the frontrunner for the GOP nomination and has the Trump endorsement whatever that is still worth. DeSantis is not one of Donalds' biggest fans and would only back him if forced to. Ron's wife Casey still has not ruled out running for the office but she has had some issues with a certain $10 million donation that just so happened to be given to the nonprofit wing of an agency she was leading. At this point, those are really the only two options and both would have to make catastrophic errors for the nominee to go to anyone else. The primary is not until August 18th so there is plenty of time for things to change. After that I could see him positioning himself as the America First flag bearer but his pro Israel stances may come back to bite him in the ass. I feel pretty confident that he will take another shot at becoming President. He is not any more likeable but he will have an actual record to run on unlike some others like Vance, Cotton, Cruz , Rubio or Don Jr.

[RainMaker]

A lot can change but I feel like Rubio has lined himself up as the successor. DeSantis maybe has a shot if the stink of Trump is too much. But he ran such a dud of a campaign last time that I just don't see how he gets that juice back.

Cruz and Vance just seem so unlikeable that I don't know how they win a primary, let alone a general. Especially in what will likely be an incredibly tough cycle for Republicans in 2028 (I'm thinking similar to 2008).

I think their best bet is weirdly Tucker. He runs as the anti-war American first candidate which will be a popular position in 2028 as this Iran stuff continues to go South. Gets matched up against Newsome who runs as the pro-Israel pro-war candidate when those stances become as toxic as they come.

[JPhillips]

DeSantis has negative charisma outside of FL.

[JPhillips]

Luckily, Trump has gotten rid of the DEIs on the federal bench.

Sen. SCHIFF: Have you tried a case to verdict?

Trump nominee: I worked on a bench trial and handled seven as a clerk.

Schiff: The judge handles trials. Were you lead counsel?

Nom: No.

Schiff: Your trial experience is as second or third lawyer on one bench trial?

Nom: Yes.

[miami_fan]

The GOP made up an America First award to give to Trump. He must really be crashing out behind the scenes.

It's supposedly an annual award. Will they be presenting him with the same trophy next year or will someone else be as deserving or more of the honor?

Also on behalf of everyone... let's be honest on behalf of every guy who fixed his mouth to bitch about the six year olds getting trophies even though they did not win their rec soccer leagues, I would like to apologize to those kiddos. This administration has proven that random trophies to stroke someone's ego is super important whether you are six or eighty six.

[flere-imsaho]

Well, as long as they're white or, in a pinch, MAGA.

[RainMaker]

This is a weird story.


archive.is (https://archive.is/fEZMj)

[flere-imsaho]

I'm sure we can count on our government to get to the bottom of such a potentially dangerous situation... uh, oh, fuck.

[Atocep]

So Trump ends up taking the same DHS deal that was on the table on day 1, and I'm sure to get that, Thune had to promise to put the SAVE act into a reconciliation bill knowing that the parliamentarian will remove it.

[JPhillips]

The House GOP killed the DHS funding bill passed by the Senate.

But... they are encouraging the President to unilaterally fund TSA. Because the Constitution doesn't matter anymore and the President is allowed to tax and spend however he sees fit.

[JPhillips]

dola

I do love when Trump humiliates the sycophants.

Trump: I hang out with losers because it makes be feel better. I hate guys that are very, very successful and you have to listen to their success stories. I like people that like to listen to my success.

[miami_fan]

dola

I do love when Trump humiliates the sycophants.

You seeing this as humiliation shows me that you are not willing to do what it takes to move up in a highly competitive environment the way these true alphas are.

[Atocep]

The woman that claims Trump, Epstein, and a 3rd man abused her when she was 13 had a lot of her story verified. Nothing directly linking her to Trump, but nearly every other part of her story so far has turned out to be accurate.

With any other President this would be a massive story and likely lead to impeachment with conviction. Instead, Trump gets to continue fucking up the world economy and dropping bombs out of anger.

[Lathum]

Didn't have this on my bingo card but I love seeing them all turn on each other

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kristi Noem said her family is blindsided by revelations her husband is a cross dresser and gay. <br><br>That isn’t true. She knew all about her husband which is why she lives with Corey Lewandowski in the DC area.<br><br>That’s why her husband never divorced her. It was their arrangement.… <a href="https://t.co/nTYSLZiA4Z">https://t.co/nTYSLZiA4Z</a></p>&mdash; Laura Loomer (@LauraLoomer) <a href="https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/2039015391272276114?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2026</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Ksyrup]

I can't possibly understand the interest (not to mention detriment to my mental well-being) of willingly going down all of these rabbit holes and following - let alone getting invested in - these people's personal lives and MAGA-on-MAGA fights. Just knowing it exists exhausts me.

[NobodyHere]

Didn't have this on my bingo card but I love seeing them all turn on each other

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kristi Noem said her family is blindsided by revelations her husband is a cross dresser and gay. <br><br>That isn’t true. She knew all about her husband which is why she lives with Corey Lewandowski in the DC area.<br><br>That’s why her husband never divorced her. It was their arrangement.… <a href="https://t.co/nTYSLZiA4Z">https://t.co/nTYSLZiA4Z</a></p>&mdash; Laura Loomer (@LauraLoomer) <a href="https://twitter.com/LauraLoomer/status/2039015391272276114?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2026</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:popcorn:

[cuervo72]

I mean, people also watch Kardashians and housewives and hip hop lovers and Mormons and all that shit, so...not surprising.

[Ghost Econ]

There is a lot to dissect. So 2 affairs, one on a former 9/11 widow, one on a "gay" (possibly bisexual) man who enjoys exploitation online.

For me the gay/crossdressing/online is whatever, he can do him as long as he's honest with his spouse. The affairs are shitty regardless of the circumstances.

For some reason the problem for conservatives is the gay part, not the cheating part.

That's why we say they have no morals.

[Atocep]

There is a lot to dissect. So 2 affairs, one on a former 9/11 widow, one on a "gay" (possibly bisexual) man who enjoys exploitation online.

For me the gay/crossdressing/online is whatever, he can do him as long as he's honest with his spouse. The affairs are shitty regardless of the circumstances.

For some reason the problem for conservatives is the gay part, not the cheating part.

That's why we say they have no morals.

The problem with the gay part or this is these are the same people trying to take the rights away from other gay people. They believe they have the money, power, and influence to keep their lifestyle hidden but those that don't or choose to live their life openly should be punished.

The GOP likes to point out their perceived hypocrisy when libs make a big deal out of this, but they're missing the entire point of why they make it a big deal. No one outside of their own party cares about them being gay or living a non traditional lifestyle. You just can't actively work to oppress others while quietly living the same or similar life.

[NobodyHere]

Lawyers for man accused of killing Charlie Kirk ask to delay hearing | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/charlie-kirk-tyler-robinson-bullet-analysis-76ccb25a0e71f9436334c2029dceb20c)

So ATF can not conclusively link the bullet found in Charlie Kirk to the murder suspect's rifle.

Interesting.

[GrantDawg]

Lawyers for man accused of killing Charlie Kirk ask to delay hearing | AP News (https://apnews.com/article/charlie-kirk-tyler-robinson-bullet-analysis-76ccb25a0e71f9436334c2029dceb20c)

So ATF can not conclusively link the bullet found in Charlie Kirk to the murder suspect's rifle.

Interesting.


That sounds much bigger than it possibly is. It will be something the defense can try and use for some doubt, but it is far from concrete. The size and type of the fragment makes a big difference, and "inconclusive" does not mean "completely excludes."

[RainMaker]

Are you telling me that killers weren't engraving their bullets with political positions that the FBI could immediately tweet out for their benefit? I for one am shocked.

[Thomkal]

Wow so this stuff with Kristi Noem is real? I just thought this was made up in Laura Loomer's consipiracy fogged mind? I guess I'm glad she got that alone time with Corey on that jet now...man just kinda stunning that we are talking about our govt officials like this.

[RainMaker]

The most shocking part is it didn't involve a child.

[Thomkal]

Or a dog

[Thomkal]

Judge says Trump has to stop construction of the ballroom said he's not the owner of the White House and Congress must approve it.


Edit: another judge blocked him from defunding NPR and PBS

[miami_fan]

That sounds much bigger than it possibly is. It will be something the defense can try and use for some doubt, but it is far from concrete. The size and type of the fragment makes a big difference, and "inconclusive" does not mean "completely excludes."

Is it "reasonable doubt" though?

Defense attorneys are also saying that forensic reports indicate multiple people’s DNA was found on some items. I'm not saying that this suspect is guilty or not. Not being able to be sure you have the actual gun is a problem though.

[miami_fan]

Wow so this stuff with Kristi Noem is real? I just thought this was made up in Laura Loomer's consipiracy fogged mind? I guess I'm glad she got that alone time with Corey on that jet now...man just kinda stunning that we are talking about our govt officials like this.

This debunks the suggestion that her husband's behavior or her alleged relationship with Corey Lewandowski are things that a foreign entity could hold over her head and put her and the country in compromising positions.

Right? Right?

[Lathum]

That sounds much bigger than it possibly is. It will be something the defense can try and use for some doubt, but it is far from concrete. The size and type of the fragment makes a big difference, and "inconclusive" does not mean "completely excludes."

All things considered if I am on a jury and the bullet that killed the person doesn't match the alleged weapon that would be enough reasonable doubt to me.

[Lathum]

Judge says Trump has to stop construction of the ballroom said he's not the owner of the White House and Congress must approve it.


Edit: another judge blocked him from defunding NPR and PBS

damn liberal activist judges....

[RainMaker]

This debunks the suggestion that her husband's behavior or her alleged relationship with Corey Lewandowski are things that a foreign entity could hold over her head and put her and the country in compromising positions.

Right? Right?

Almost all of them were chosen specifically because they could be controlled. Gaetz had the child sex trafficking. Patel was living with his boyfriend in Vegas for years. Lutnick is running a ponzi scheme. McMahon has a husband who would likely be in prison for sex crimes. Hegseth is an alcoholic accused of sexual assault multiple times. Bondi was the one who covered up the child sex trafficking ring of Epstein in Florida. And the Rubio stuff has been around since the 90's.

Bringing in people with skeletons in their closet is a feature, not a bug.

[Thomkal]

So Trump issued an executive order tonight banning voting by mail even though he just did it last week for the Florida special election. He also says he's going to appear tomorrow when the Supreme Court has oral arguments on birthright citiizienry. which would be a first for a sitting President.

[Mota]

Trump is a complete joke. As someone who works in a global industry, I talk to people in many countries, and it is a shared feeling across continents. Everybody was kissing his ass to try and appeal to his narcissism, but this has proven to be a losing strategy, because he both needs this and despises it at the same time. So now they are beginning to push him and the USA away.

The only true winner of this is Putin.

[GrantDawg]

All things considered if I am on a jury and the bullet that killed the person doesn't match the alleged weapon that would be enough reasonable doubt to me.

But that is not what it says. The bullet fragment can't be ruled in or out of being used by the gun. If it were ruled out, sure. It is not ruled out, there just isn't enough to have a definite marking.

[GrantDawg]

Are you telling me that killers weren't engraving their bullets with political positions that the FBI could immediately tweet out for their benefit? I for one am shocked.

You do know there is a difference between shell casing and the bullets fragments, right? They have the bullet casings with the engravings on them.
So far, they have him on the scene, with a gun his family owned, that had been fired, and him admitting to killing Kirk to several people. The inconclusive fragment is not likely going to get him off.

[Atocep]

Hegseth stepped in and forced the unit that suspended the pilots that flew over Kid Rock's house for a photo op to lift the suspension, then went on twitter to praise kid rock and called the pilots patriots.

But they really care about fraud, waste, and abuse.

[NobodyHere]

So how is a person supposed to distinguish an actual headline from the Trump presidency from an April Fools joke in this day and age?

[Thomkal]

So how is a person supposed to distinguish an actual headline from the Trump presidency from an April Fools joke in this day and age?


A normal political message like every other President is obviously a April Fools joke :)

[flere-imsaho]

I'm taking the day off from media to smoke some brisket for our Passover Seder tonight, that's how I'm dealing with April Fools.

[NobodyHere]

A normal political message like every other President is obviously a April Fools joke :)

Is this real?

JD Vance Unveils Incel Statue at the White House (https://hyperallergic.com/jd-vance-unveils-incel-statue-at-the-white-house/)

[Thomkal]

Is this real?

JD Vance Unveils Incel Statue at the White House (https://hyperallergic.com/jd-vance-unveils-incel-statue-at-the-white-house/)


Sadly many MAGA wish it was.

[Thomkal]

Sounds like Trump's presence didn't convince the Supreme Court to change or take away birthright citizenship...

[Atocep]

Sounds like Trump's presence didn't convince the Supreme Court to change or take away birthright citizenship...

Massive miscalculation on his part. There's no way they could rule in his favor after showing up to try to intimidate them. I can't believe his people allowed him to do that.

[Lathum]

I for one am shocked Trump couldn't manage to sit through even half the oral arguments.

[Lathum]

Massive miscalculation on his part. There's no way they could rule in his favor after showing up to try to intimidate them. I can't believe his people allowed him to do that.

You act like he listens to his people and they weren't ruling in his favor anyway, other than Thomas and Alito who are rubber stamps.

He likely knows that and him showing up was a hail mary.

[RainMaker]

I don't really get what the argument they are trying to make is. I know there is always ambiguity in the Constitution, but this one is about as plainly written as you can expect.

[Lathum]

ehhh......

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">GORSUCH: Do you think Native Americans are birthright citizens under your test?<br><br>SAUER: Ah, I think ... so. I have to think that through. <a href="https://t.co/9OxV0ZBlRi">pic.twitter.com/9OxV0ZBlRi</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) <a href="https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/2039360113350189428?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 1, 2026</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Ghost Econ]

Marco Rubio thinks that your parents should have to be US citizens for birthright citizenship to apply.

Marco Rubio's parents were not US citizens when he was born.

[GrantDawg]

ehhh......

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The interesting thing on that is that the understanding of the 14th amendment when written didn't give Native Americans citizenship. They only received citizenship in 1924. It was because they were considered citizens of their tribal nations.
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[RainMaker]

The funniest thing about Gorsuch is he's a staunch conservative judge who turns into the farthest left judge on any issue regarding Native Americans.

[GrantDawg]

Trump: “We can't take care of daycare. We're a big country. We're fighting wars. It's not possible for us to take care of daycare, Medicaid, Medicare, all these things.”

The ads write themselves.

[Mota]

Trump: “We can't take care of daycare. We're a big country. We're fighting wars. It's not possible for us to take care of daycare, Medicaid, Medicare, all these things.”

The ads write themselves.

Other countries have these things. It would probably be best if they didn't waste billions constantly overthrowing and destabilizing countries around the world, and then having to spend more billions in defense to protect against these same countries.

[JPhillips]

Never thought it would happen, but with Trump only getting 31% in the latest CNN poll it's near certain that he's going to be in the 20s before long.

[Danny]

Never thought it would happen, but with Trump only getting 31% in the latest CNN poll it's near certain that he's going to be in the 20s before long.

He has a decent percentage of those who truly do love him (maybe 20%?) I feel like the rest who support him know in their heart of hearts he is terrible but can't come to admitting it, I do think we all need to continue to give an off ramp to those people and not hold our noses because they had supported trump.

[miami_fan]

Other countries have these things. It would probably be best if they didn't waste billions constantly overthrowing and destabilizing countries around the world, and then having to spend more billions in defense to protect against these same countries.

That would mean convincing the vast majority of this country on both sides of the aisle that using "their" money on those things is a benefit to the country and not some handout or forced charity for people who are underserving and/or unworthy of such benefit. We are not lacking these things because of a lack of resources. We are lacking these things because we don't believe "those other people" who live here are worthy of getting those things.

[GrantDawg]

That would mean convincing the vast majority of this country on both sides of the aisle that using "their" money on those things is a benefit to the country and not some handout or forced charity for people who are underserving and/or unworthy of such benefit. We are not lacking these things because of a lack of resources. We are lacking these things because we don't believe "those other people" who live here are worthy of getting those things.


"If everybody gets free healthcare, then child rapist would get free healthcare. So, Democrats want child rapist to get free healthcare."

[dubb93]

"If everybody gets free healthcare, then child rapist would get free healthcare. So, Democrats want child rapist to get free healthcare."

Ironically, prisoners get basically free healthcare. They may pay a very small fee for visits they initiate themselves, but the bulk of their medical needs are provided free of charge.

[Mota]

"If everybody gets free healthcare, then child rapist would get free healthcare. So, Democrats want child rapist to get free healthcare."

During my little experiment listening to FOX News on my drive home about a week ago, this is exactly the strategy they were using with immigration. Democrats are protesting ICE, therefore they want open borders and want criminals to come across and rape your kids. I was trying to understand how the other side sees things. I couldn't believe it. I made it about 20 minutes before needing to change the channel.

[NobodyHere]

Looks like we might have our next fall girl

Report: Pam Bondi to be fired 'imminently,' and Trump already has a replacement in mind (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/report-pam-bondi-to-be-fired-imminently-and-trump-already-has-a-replacement-in-mind/ar-AA200qlc?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=69ce76cbf5dd4865807c080d74c69037&ei=15)

[Ksyrup]

You hate to see it.

Good Friday tomorrow, leading into Easter weekend? News Dump Friday checks out.

[Lathum]

I can't imagine having that job. Knowing you have to file all of these frivolous lawsuits that you know are doomed, then getting smacked down immediately, thus pissing off Trump.

Compound that with anyone competent leaving the DOJ and having to criticize all the activist judges I can't even imagine.

[NobodyHere]

I wonder if Hegseth will be in hot water if the Straight of Hormuz isn't open by Monday.

[Lathum]

Apparently Gabbard may be out also.


When will these people ever learn hitching your wagon to him always ends badly.

[Lathum]

I wonder if Hegseth will be in hot water if the Straight of Hormuz isn't open by Monday.

I doubt it.

I think he is going to continue to blame out allies while claiming energy independence. I honestly don't think he gets that oil is a global market.

What will be more interesting is if gas prices are still over $4 come memorial day.

[Mota]

Same thing in Canada. We get our own oil in Alberta, but good luck getting the private oil companies to sell for anything less than the global price.

[RainMaker]

It likely ends up with all these countries individually negotiating with Iran for access. Iran asks either for a toll or for it to eschew the petrodollar. Just an insane way to destroy your own economy.

[Thomkal]

Good riddance to the worst Attorney General we've ever had-you had better hope Trump pardons you for what you did with the Epstein files and just about everything you tried to do.

[Ksyrup]

I doubt it.

I think he is going to continue to blame out allies while claiming energy independence. I honestly don't think he gets that oil is a global market.

What will be more interesting is if gas prices are still over $4 come memorial day.

This is one of those situations where he would rather twist himself into a pretzel than admit he is wrong. Like the tariffs' impact on farmers. His solution is to subsidize the farmers. I could see the same here - pay off the oil companies to make our gas prices cheaper.

[RainMaker]

This is one of those situations where he would rather twist himself into a pretzel than admit he is wrong. Like the tariffs' impact on farmers. His solution is to subsidize the farmers. I could see the same here - pay off the oil companies to make our gas prices cheaper.

They're already doing that by buying oil futures.

[Danny]

Hes going to keep Hegseth in his pocket and throw him under the bus closer to the mid terms. Its also not coincidence he throws the incompetent women under the bus first. Womwn and children first after all, hes a gentlemen

[johnnyshaka]

Same thing in Canada. We get our own oil in Alberta, but good luck getting the private oil companies to sell for anything less than the global price.

And deprive shareholders of record profits?? :popcorn:

[GrantDawg]

Apparently Gabbard may be out also.


When will these people ever learn hitching your wagon to him always ends badly.


Bondi, Gabbard, Noem.....noticing a pattern.

[Lathum]

Looks like Tina Peters is being released.

[JPhillips]

I think Bondi was fired as a way to justify her not being deposed over Epstein. House GOPers are saying there's no need for her to testify now that she isn't AG.

[Lathum]

What’s amazing is he justified her and she will still show unyielding fealty to him and lie under oath.

[Thomkal]

So the Pentagon had a Good Friday Service today in its chapel-but it was for Protestants not Catholics, and they are not having a separate one for Cathoilics. So now apparently only Protestants can fight for us.

[JPhillips]

Trump is going to issue an EO today about college sports. Glad he's really focused on the things that matter.

[GrantDawg]

Trump is going to issue an EO today about college sports. Glad he's really focused on the things that matter.


He obviously doing multiple things. Iran has declined a cease fire offer, and he has been holed up in Oval Office all day, and he has just called in the full national security team. I have a feeling something big is about to go down.

[NobodyHere]

Next on the chopping block?

Trump weighs firing FBI director Patel amid cabinet shake-up (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/insight/trump-weighs-firing-fbi-director-patel-amid-cabinet-shake-up/gm-GM051D637D?gemSnapshotKey=GM051D637D-snapshot-89)

[Lathum]

Only the best people.

[JPhillips]

If Obama had posted a message that included "Hell will reign," MAGA media would spend the next twenty years talking about it.

[miami_fan]

Next on the chopping block?

Trump weighs firing FBI director Patel amid cabinet shake-up (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/insight/trump-weighs-firing-fbi-director-patel-amid-cabinet-shake-up/gm-GM051D637D?gemSnapshotKey=GM051D637D-snapshot-89)

If I really thought he was playing 8D chess, I would suggest that he had planned put the initial cabinet together just to own the libs and do his bidding and now that he actually needs smart people who know what they are doing, he is switching things up.

But then he replaced Kristi Noem with Markwayne Mullins so not so much.

[Thomkal]

A look at the opening of the Trump Presidential Library in 2030, Brilliant short.


https://bsky.app/profile/gtconway.bsky.social/post/3miowirom2k2r

[JPhillips]

Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one. Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell. JUST WATCH. Praise be to Allah.

Our President is a mad man.

[Thomkal]

I'm so glad we have a President who posts appropriate religious holiday messages now

[Atocep]

Our President is a mad man.

Republicans, when they feel they're in a safe place online to discuss Trump, seem to mostly be over him. They'll still defend him in public and other circles because he's their guy, but I think even the high 30s to low 40s approval ratings may be somewhat inflated right now.

[Ghost Econ]

MAGA Jesus is a thirst trap.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Luke 24:6<br><br>He is Risen. <br><br>Happy Easter, America. <a href="https://t.co/8ryOXGM7ao">pic.twitter.com/8ryOXGM7ao</a></p>&mdash; Homeland Security (@DHSgov) <a href="https://twitter.com/DHSgov/status/2040797639508189190?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2026</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Atocep]

Rezmaxxing

[Mota]

I think Iran may be the good guys now.

[Atocep]

I think Iran may be the good guys now.

I wouldn't go that far. They're still executing people for speaking out against their government, executing people for being gay, and are generally shitty. We're just bad guys too.

On a related note, China now has a higher global approval rating than us. Are we great yet?

[Mota]

Yeah, in no way are Iran actual good guys, but these over the top performances by Trump on social media are also giving off the "Emperor Palpatine" vibes.

[Danny]

Trump 2.0 has definitely accomplished one thing. Wishing for and appreciating Trump 1.0 in comparison.

[RainMaker]

I wouldn't go that far. They're still executing people for speaking out against their government, executing people for being gay, and are generally shitty. We're just bad guys too.

On a related note, China now has a higher global approval rating than us. Are we great yet?

We literally do all this too and far worse. We are also directly responsible for the current Iranian regime being in power.

[Ksyrup]

Trump 2.0 has definitely accomplished one thing. Wishing for and appreciating Trump 1.0 in comparison.

The Trump march to the church and Bible photo op seems quaint in retrospect. Six years later, he's swearing and praising Allah on Easter.

[Ksyrup]

Saw a funny comment this morning - there's a crook in the WH, we're losing a war, and we're sending people to the moon. Is it 1969 or 2026?

[dubb93]

Some very bizarre choice of words. Ending a civilization? That’s beyond narcissistic talk that’s believing you are a deity.

[Ksyrup]

I don't think he understands a lot of the words he says.

[Atocep]

Did we seriously send our Vice President to Hungary, while we're at war, to campaign for their current authoritarian President at a rally ahead of of elections?

[JPhillips]

And Vance claimed that Ukrainian intelligence interfered with both Hungary and the US elections.

[kingfc22]

Some very bizarre choice of words. Ending a civilization? That’s beyond narcissistic talk that’s believing you are a deity.

Don’t worry. When he says ending a civilization he’s really talking about the regime. He loves the Iranian people. He’s just a tough negotiator who likes to throw elbows.

Yes, this was an actual description I heard on a “conservative” radio station today during the five minutes I listened just to see how they would fall over themselves to excuse the latest from the orange clown.

[Lathum]

Nothing says love like bombing away their ability for energy and clean water

[Ghost Econ]

For a straight shooter who isn't afraid to say it like it is, Conservatives have to really bend over backwards to tell us what he really meant.

[Atocep]

And Vance claimed that Ukrainian intelligence interfered with both Hungary and the US elections.

After reading the times article, I'm pretty sure this was Trump's way of benching Vance for the decision on what to do at tonight's deadline. Vance appears to be the only one in the administration willing to tell the President something he doesn't want to hear, and even then he does it without any conviction. Trump knows where he stands now, though, and probably doesn't want to hear it.

[JPhillips]

The obsession with Hungary is bizarre. They are the least prosperous country in the EU.

[RainMaker]

The obsession with Hungary is bizarre. They are the least prosperous country in the EU.

They are far right and very close with Israel. That's really all it is.

[Ksyrup]

My daughter is visiting my parents right now. She just reported that my mom said, "We'll see what happens at 8. I hope he blows them up." How very Christian of her!

[GrantDawg]

"Armageddon is terrible but our only other option was pronouns."

[miami_fan]

So the Pentagon had a Good Friday Service today in its chapel-but it was for Protestants not Catholics, and they are not having a separate one for Cathoilics. So now apparently only Protestants can fight for us.

Or...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/pentagon-threatened-pope-criticized-trump-212552754.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABCU3T4NR3IteIkP1G5MTrgOusAGtmSS7h0UrmUCcUvNbBCySPe_dYYM4qZ5W-Khijgmo_BD8CtbOsERhQAE3iN212_FD27qkAAolMRzye6m5L6nqTF7FxzTCZR-ETR2UdOpAdSaNz10I8ptrxsYuCM8sjyzHt1j2hg8MC9kGPJc


I can't pick my favorite detail in the story.

- The visual of a U.S. official in the meeting picking up a 14th century weapon while at the same time invoking the Avignon Papacy. That would be corny for a movie much less something that actually happening.

- Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby telling Cardinal Christophe Pierre who is the Vatican’s U.S. representative that the U.S, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.” Hmm.... is that more Mafioso or Nazi regime?

- JD Vance who converted to Catholicism in 2019, was asked about this story and whether the comments by Colby to Pierre could be seen as a threat. The vice president was obviously preparing to "with all due respect" disrespect the cardinal before he found out the cardinal was the Vatican's representative to the U.S. before pivoting to saying that he had not seen the reporting and how it is a bad idea to offer an opinion on "stories that are unconfirmed and uncorroborated, so I’m not going to do that.” Once again, HE said that the story that he had not see, then said it is unconfirmed and uncorroborated.

[Thomkal]

Yeah the whole I've not seen the reporting as a defense for not commenting just has to stop. Vance may be more dangerous than Trump if he should ever make it to the Presidency.


My brother, a conservative Christian recently commented on Facebook about the new Pope's calls for the peaceful and humane treatment of immigrants that the Pope was woke like the last one and therefore shouldn't be listened to when it comes to Christian leaders. I Tried to suggest that the Pope is one of the closest people to God and should be listened to but was having none of it. Kinda makes me wonder if another Crusade is going to break out over which sect of Christianity is the Real one and all others must be cast down.

[Ghost Econ]

My inlaws are the most Catholic practicing people you could know. My father-in-law goes to church multiple times a week and during COVID when masses were streamed, he would drive to the church parking lot 25 minutes away and stream it on his phone.

I have no doubt that if it came between the Pope and Trump that he would choose Trump.

[Fidatelo]

My father-in-law had a saying:

"Going to church doesn't make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car."

[Thomkal]

Well this could be interesting...


Melania Trump issued a public statement today denying she had anything to do with Epstein, and called on Congress to let the survivors testify...

[Ghost Econ]

Melania is like, I know he started a was so you wouldn't talk about it anymore, but please talk about the files again.

[Lathum]

Well this could be interesting...


Melania Trump issued a public statement today denying she had anything to do with Epstein, and called on Congress to let the survivors testify...

Very strange. You have to wonder if she is trying to get out ahead of some reporting.

[Thomkal]

Very strange. You have to wonder if she is trying to get out ahead of some reporting.


Yeah sounds like someone asked her for a comment on a story they were going to bring out, and she was getting out ahead of it.

[RainMaker]

Very strange. You have to wonder if she is trying to get out ahead of some reporting.

Right after Trump pissed off Israel by taking the ceasefire. They have something on her.

[Lathum]

According to a CNN report odds on prediction markets dropped for Orban to win following Vances visit.

Everything trump touches dies.

[flere-imsaho]

There are multiple literal pictures of Melania with Epstein & Maxwell, and they are not hard to find.

[NobodyHere]

Everything trump touches dies.

Everything?

Drug Dealers Are Using Trump’s Face to Package Their Cocaine (https://www.thedailybeast.com/drug-dealers-are-using-president-donald-trumps-face-to-package-their-cocaine/)

Would be nice if the Cocaine industry died.

[miami_fan]

Yeah the whole I've not seen the reporting as a defense for not commenting just has to stop. Vance may be more dangerous than Trump if he should ever make it to the Presidency.


There have only been two Catholic presidents in our history, JFK and JRB. Rumor has it that back in the good ol' days, the American voters were concerned that a Catholic president would be beholden to the Pope. Similarly, some voters seem to think currently that Jewish voters are beholden to Israel.

I am curious how the "religious right" moves in the future if the voters within the movement are no longer willing to coexist with one another and are more focused on the specifics of their individual faiths.

[RainMaker]

I know there is a lot going on but I can't believe how little attention the crypto scams are getting. They did the equivalent of printing millions of shares for themselves without telling anyone, selling them for cash immediately, then pocketing the money. Way worse than anything FTX did.

[Ksyrup]

I am curious how the "religious right" moves in the future if the voters within the movement are no longer willing to coexist with one another and are more focused on the specifics of their individual faiths.

Reminds me of the old Emo Philips joke:

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[NobodyHere]

We really need more cage matches in Washington

Ready to rumble? Hunter Biden challenges Trump's sons to cage match (https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/ready-rumble-hunter-biden-challenges-trumps-sons-cage-match-2026-04-09/)

I support any constitutional amendment that would replace the filibuster with a cage match.

[Mota]

We really need more cage matches in Washington

Ready to rumble? Hunter Biden challenges Trump's sons to cage match (https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/ready-rumble-hunter-biden-challenges-trumps-sons-cage-match-2026-04-09/)

I support any constitutional amendment that would replace the filibuster with a cage match.

Might pay off to keep your candidates younger as well. No more 75 year olds running for congress if they might be needed for a quick cage match.

[Kodos]

Reminds me of the old Emo Philips joke:

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Whoa. I could not take much of that guy's delivery.

[JPhillips]

There have only been two Catholic presidents in our history, JFK and JRB. Rumor has it that back in the good ol' days, the American voters were concerned that a Catholic president would be beholden to the Pope. Similarly, some voters seem to think currently that Jewish voters are beholden to Israel.

I am curious how the "religious right" moves in the future if the voters within the movement are no longer willing to coexist with one another and are more focused on the specifics of their individual faiths.

Pro-life bonded the evangelicals and the right-wing Catholics, but now that they have largely won that fight, the old animosities are coming back to the top. When I was a kid in rural Ohio there was a clear split between the Protestants and the few Catholics in the area. When I was in college an evangelical church in Morehead, KY had a sign up for a while saying that Catholics were going to Hell.

[Ksyrup]

Whoa. I could not take much of that guy's delivery.

You've never heard of Emo? He's been around for decades. In fact, this clip is about 40 years old. That was his shtick.

[Kodos]

I probably saw him once and was like “nope!”

[NobodyHere]

I probably saw him once and was like “nope!”

https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-15-2022/6msOcb.gif

[JPhillips]

Nice knowing you Eric Swalwell.

[GrantDawg]

Nice knowing you Eric Swalwell.

That's a blow. If he had became governor, he would have likely been a strong presidential candidate eventually. Now, he is probably a couple of years from becoming an anti-woke Republican.

[RainMaker]

Decent chance the next Governor of California is a Republican.

[Thomkal]

That's a blow. If he had became governor, he would have likely been a strong presidential candidate eventually. Now, he is probably a couple of years from becoming an anti-woke Republican.


He was my choice when he ran in 2020. Kinda sad he was leaving Congress to run for Governor because you could always count on him to attack Republicans in committees and such.


Seeing that Roger Stone was behind this, I thought there was a chance he made it up, but with now four women that doesn't seem likely. Very sad and angry. Apparantly no politician can keep it in their pants.

[Danny]

Decent chance the next Governor of California is a Republican.

If this helps clear the field it will help that from happening. I dont see a repub beating any of the democrat nominees in a head 2 head with ca being fairly anti trump. But theres been the risk the two repubs get the highest two primary totals which means they just run against each other with no d candidate.

[Lathum]

He is probably guilty and probably a scumbag but the hypocrisy from the GOP is staggering.

[RainMaker]

If this helps clear the field it will help that from happening. I dont see a repub beating any of the democrat nominees in a head 2 head with ca being fairly anti trump. But theres been the risk the two repubs get the highest two primary totals which means they just run against each other with no d candidate.

Yeah they don't stand a chance head to head but the jungle primary makes it interesting. Seems like a dumb system.

[GrantDawg]

Orban looks to be going down hard. 30% of the vote counted and the opposition party is only one seat from a super majority. The turnout was well beyond projections.

[Atocep]

Orban looks to be going down hard. 30% of the vote counted and the opposition party is only one seat from a super majority. The turnout was well beyond projections.

Trump will claim election fraud instead of realizing he's possibly the most hated man on the planet right now.

[GrantDawg]

With 45% in, they now have the super majority and Orban has concede. I'm shocked he conceded this early.

[Thomkal]

With 45% in, they now have the super majority and Orban has concede. I'm shocked he conceded this early.


I'm shocked he conceded at all. Yay for Hungary! Hope we follow your example in Nov.

[kingfc22]

Hopefully he’s the first of many far right asshats to fall out of power.

[Ghost Econ]

Everything Vance touches, dies.

[NobodyHere]

Everything Vance touches, dies.

You think he was over there for peace?

We all know he was over at the peace talks to get his hands (and other appendages) in some damn fine Pakastani couches.

[Lathum]

Everything Vance touches, dies.

You think he was over there for peace?

We all know he was over at the peace talks to get his hands (and other appendages) in some damn fine Pakastani couches.

He's talking about how Vance went to Hungary earlier this week to shill for Orban. You know, totally normal stuff.

[NobodyHere]

He's talking about how Vance went to Hungary earlier this week to shill for Orban. You know, totally normal stuff.

Oh,

How are Hungarian couches?

[Atocep]

Swalwell officially out of the CA governor race. That probably means dems will get someone in the top 2 now.

[JPhillips]

Trump always escalates and now he's going after the Pope and the Catholic Church. The Far-right Catholics will love it, but this doesn't attract a single persuadable voter.

[GrantDawg]

Swalwell officially out of the CA governor race. That probably means dems will get someone in the top 2 now.

Looks like the billionaire. It is weird how in a state like California, they can't find a decent option for Govenor. No better hear. Keisha Lance Bottoms has no chance of winning the state but will probably win the nomination. No real fire power challengers. Geoff Duncan, the former Republican Lt. Governor is the closest, but he is never going to be trusted in the more deep Blue areas. People talk up Jason Esteves, but he is too unknown. Dems have a real shot here, but are putting up clunkers. Only thing that might save thrm is if creepy ass Rick Jackson wins on the Republican side. Charisma of child molester.

[Danny]

Do any of those catholics supporting him condemn this?

[Fidatelo]

Keisha Lance Bottoms sounds like one of the Baby of the Year candidates from I Think You Should Leave. Do you think she beat Michael Patrick Porkins?

[GrantDawg]

The legal battle on how they will even run elections in Georgia is going to be interesting. The state passed a law requiring paper ballots that goes into effect in July, but they didn't pick new machines or provide any funding to replace the current machines. They don't seem to want to do either.

[Ghost Econ]

We don't have a legal way to hold elections just seems like normal Republican strategy

[Atocep]

Trump's picture depicting himself as Jesus is probably the most pushback I've seen online from conservatives for something he's done. I've seen several say he's just as gone as Biden was. Different types of senility, but senility all the same.

[Lathum]

Trump's picture depicting himself as Jesus is probably the most pushback I've seen online from conservatives for something he's done. I've seen several say he's just as gone as Biden was. Different types of senility, but senility all the same.

Biden ate ice cream and fell off a bike and they were screaming for the 25th. Trump compares himself to Jesus, trashes the pope, and starts an unwinnable war and they will do nothing.

[RainMaker]

Everything Vance touches, dies.

It is incredibly funny how they keep giving him the worst jobs that make him look like shit. Trump and Rubio yucking it up at UFC while he's being embarrassed halfway across the globe. They hate him so much.

[Danny]

Biden ate ice cream and fell off a bike and they were screaming for the 25th. Trump compares himself to Jesus, trashes the pope, and starts an unwinnable war and they will do nothing.

Senility affects people differently. I'd like to get away from electing 80 year old from both parties

[NobodyHere]

Senility affects people differently. I'd like to get away from electing 80 year old from both parties

:+1:

[Kodos]

I’d support an age limit. 80 is too old.

[JPhillips]

It's so humiliating watching all of the GOPers run to the mic to claim they believe whatever Trump's latest lie is. We're really all supposed to believe that Trump posted a Red Cross meme?

[Lathum]

Senility affects people differently. I'd like to get away from electing 80 year old from both parties

I agree but the point of my comment is the raging hypocrisy from the GOP.

[GrantDawg]

Swalwell and Tony Gonzales both resigned. I am guessing that being expelled means losing the Congressional pension? Retreat is the better part of keeping the gravy train going.

[miami_fan]

Do any of those catholics supporting him condemn this?

Condemn who?

Trump or Jesus?

[dubb93]

Would anyone be surprised to see a schism and Trump be elected Pope of the American Catholic Church?

[JPhillips]

Even a number of more conservative bishops have criticized Trump. His biggest supporters in this are Protestant evangelicals.

[Danny]

I agree but the point of my comment is the raging hypocrisy from the GOP.

Hundreds of democratic congress men and women had to know and still kept his decline hush and supported him running for reelection at 80+ years old. They're hypocritical and weak too. Biden just isnt as awful and dangerous as Trump.

[RainMaker]

They rigged a primary, lied about their candidate, overthrew a democratically elected government and funded a genocidal fascist regime while complaining that Trump is a fascist and would end democracy. Yeah they aren't as bad but Democrats are genuinely awful hypocrites too.

[JPhillips]

The Trumpers don't seem to understand that with all of the power and might of the US government, there's very little they can do to hurt the Vatican.

[RainMaker]

Insanely underreported story is how the Treasury is printing paper oil any tine the price jumps over $100. The financial losses for taxpayers are going to be staggering on this. It is like $500 million a day to keep the price down.

[Lathum]

JD Vance is going to be a case study for years to come about shamelessly abandoning any values you may have had for power.

[Ksyrup]

I think this goes here about as well as anywhere else.

I hope someone considered calling this OnlyFanatics...

Artificial intelligence Jesus chatbot sparks debate over future of faith (https://www.indy100.com/science-tech/ai-jesus-chatbot-faith-religion?ref=cupofcoffeenews.com)

For some evangelical Christians, a personal relationship with Jesus is central to their faith. Now, a tech company called Just Like Me is offering to take that concept to an unprecedented level, allowing users to engage in video calls with an artificial intelligence-generated avatar of Jesus for $1.99 per minute.

[Atocep]

So Orban had been making payments for years to CPAC using Hungarian taxpayer dollars.

[cuervo72]

I think this goes here about as well as anywhere else.

I hope someone considered calling this OnlyFanatics...

Artificial intelligence Jesus chatbot sparks debate over future of faith (https://www.indy100.com/science-tech/ai-jesus-chatbot-faith-religion?ref=cupofcoffeenews.com)

Your own personal Jesus, if you will.

[Lathum]

I think this goes here about as well as anywhere else.

I hope someone considered calling this OnlyFanatics...

Artificial intelligence Jesus chatbot sparks debate over future of faith (https://www.indy100.com/science-tech/ai-jesus-chatbot-faith-religion?ref=cupofcoffeenews.com)

This is brilliant. Trump showed us religious fanatics are the easiest people to grift off of.

[Ghost Econ]

I really hope they make a Mohammed chatbot.

[Atocep]

Dr. Oz went on Don Jr's podcast and told him that his dad believes diet coke kills cancer because it kills grass when poured on it.

[RainMaker]

It is still pretty funny that the head of HHS doesn't believe in germ theory in 2026.

[NobodyHere]

I think this goes here about as well as anywhere else.

I hope someone considered calling this OnlyFanatics...

Artificial intelligence Jesus chatbot sparks debate over future of faith (https://www.indy100.com/science-tech/ai-jesus-chatbot-faith-religion?ref=cupofcoffeenews.com)

George Lucas predicted this!

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[Atocep]

Rasmussen has Trump's approval down to 43%. That has to equate to something in the low 30s in terms of real numbers.

[JPhillips]

Karoline Leavitt: “President Trump’s Truth Social post depicting him as Jesus was a doctored image.”

oh my god. was trump told to tell the press that the image was "doctored," but misunderstood and told everyone that he was depicted as a "doctor"?

This has to be what happened.

[RainMaker]

He still thinks asylum is for people from mental asylums.

[Passacaglia]

But why say it was a doctored image? Isn't that already obvious? And how does that explain anything?

[Ksyrup]

I think it's more likely Leavitt misunderstood what she was told to say.

[Passacaglia]

But why say it was a doctored image? Isn't that already obvious? And how does that explain anything?

Ugh I hate this timeline. While trying to investigate why she would say it's a doctored image, I found one tweet saying she never said that, and a bunch of tweets or threads or whatever that all seem to be based on one original tweet, from Captain obvious, that's not sourced at all, and seems designed to set up this joke for everyone else to make.

If she really did say it, Leavitt seems dumber than Trump here. At least he offers an excuse that means he wasn't trying to depict himself as Jesus. Saying "it's a doctored picture" doesn't do that at all.

[GrantDawg]

At least one reporter I trust says she never said it. I think it was a joke that left containment.

[Lathum]

Dude is so far gone. I actually think he believes this because his handlers and FOX News are the only place he gets his information from. No concept of reality.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump: &quot;I had the greatest year, the greatest opening year. I ended 8 wars. The greatest economy ever. But even when you have a great president, they tend to lose the midterms. It doesn't make sense to me. We've had the greatest year in the history of the presidency, first year.… <a href="https://t.co/e4wmbiqKdB">pic.twitter.com/e4wmbiqKdB</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) <a href="https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/2044388824873095360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2026</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Ksyrup]

Eh, I think liars lie and when things are going badly, they just lie some more because so often lying has worked out for him. The boasts just get bigger and more audacious.

It's like lying about being 6'2" 215 lbs. If it was you and me trying to make ourselves look good, we might add an inch and shave 10 pounds off. But with Trump, it's the ridiculousness of the lie that he gets away with that is the point of it all.

[Ghost Econ]

Eh, I think liars lie and when things are going badly, they just lie some more because so often lying has worked out for him. The boasts just get bigger and more audacious.

It's like lying about being 6'2" 215 lbs. If it was you and me trying to make ourselves look good, we might add an inch and shave 10 pounds off. But with Trump, it's the ridiculousness of the lie that he gets away with that is the point of it all.

I think that's is HIMS's whole business plan.

[dubb93]

Dude needs to just lay off AI images for a while.

[Atocep]

There's a pressure campaign to get Alito to retire so that he can be replaced before the midterms. It's acknowledgement that they're going to lose at least the house and that even 2028 isn't looking great for them right now.

[Ksyrup]

Yeah, with Ted Cruz the #1 pick. Imagine being so insufferable that you fail upwards so the current people around you don't have to deal with you anymore.

[Ksyrup]

Hegseth quoted Jules Winnfield's fake Bible verse at a Pentagon prayer service? Perfect, just perfect.

I wonder how far they could have taken this bit. Like, if someone slipped in the dialogue about giving a foot massage to another man's woman, would he have realized something was off?

[NobodyHere]

Do any of those catholics supporting him condemn this?

Yes, but if they're like my mother then they will still vote for whoever is pro-life and against anyone that supports abortion.

[Ksyrup]

My mom became a hardcore Catholic after 9/11. She grew up Catholic but because my dad was Greek Orthodox (resulting in his parents refusing to come to their wedding), they compromised and raised us as United Methodist. Once we were on our own, she went back and my dad converted. Neither my brother nor I are very religious which has been a sore subject.

Anyway, on this particular issue, I have no idea what my mom thinks, but she did not support the previous woke Pope so I'm guessing one who has directly taken on Trump is even further down her favorites list.

[Ksyrup]

Speaking of Trump and Catholics, The Bulwark will be dropping an edition of their Focus Group show at some point soon and sent out a preview today. Some of the quotes from Catholics in the Focus Group about Trump and the Pope are cazy. But, they sound a lot like my mom.

[RainMaker]

American Christians are just weird to me. What is the point if you don't actually believe in any of the teachings?

[Mota]

I think what happened is that many Christians have been co-opted by politics. The two should be completely separate. That is no longer the case in the USA.

[cuervo72]

American Christians are just weird to me. What is the point if you don't actually believe in any of the teachings?

What the point has always been - to enforce and adjudicate behavior.

[Atocep]

American Christians are just weird to me. What is the point if you don't actually believe in any of the teachings?

Punishment of people they don't agree with and the high they get from feeling that they're oppressed.

[Ghost Econ]

Oh, ok

“I was standing in front of my parked car on I-684 cutting the penis out of a road killed raccoon, thinking about how weird some of my family members have turned out to be,” he wrote, reportedly reflecting on strained relationships with his brother Douglas Kennedy and cousin Bobby Shriver. “My kids waited patiently in the car.”

[RainMaker]

Punishment of people they don't agree with and the high they get from feeling that they're oppressed.

Pedophilia and harassing waitresses after church seem pretty important to them too. I remember working retail in high school and college and the Sunday lunch crowd was the absolute worst.

[JPhillips]

There's quite a lot of diversity among Christian believers. There isn't a singular American Christianity.

[Sweed]

Punishment of people they don't agree with and the high they get from feeling that they're oppressed.

I hope you don't think this only applies to Christians?

[Atocep]

I hope you don't think this only applies to Christians?

They're traits that tend to come with religion in general.

[miami_fan]

There's quite a lot of diversity among Christian believers. There isn't a singular American Christianity.

There is quite a lot of diversity among believers of all religions. I'm not sure that the is a singular American of any religion. However, the standard we have set in this country is we paint the entire religion with the brush of the most extreme believers and demand the rest of the believers of said religion answer for the views and actions of the most extreme.

[Danny]

There is quite a lot of diversity among believers of all religions. I'm not sure that the is a singular American of any religion. However, the standard we have set in this country is we paint the entire religion with the brush of the most extreme believers and demand the rest of the believers of said religion answer for the views and actions of the most extreme.

The is partially true but we can't pretend there isnt a HUGE rise of christian nationalism and intertwining of politics and religion in this country

[Atocep]

There is quite a lot of diversity among believers of all religions. I'm not sure that the is a singular American of any religion. However, the standard we have set in this country is we paint the entire religion with the brush of the most extreme believers and demand the rest of the believers of said religion answer for the views and actions of the most extreme.

It's not special treatment for Christianity or any religion. The same standard is applied to conservatives when it comes to Trump. When the crazies are largely running the asylum and driving culture change the rest have to answer for it or become attached to it by default.

Whether believers think it's fair or not, until people start to see more pushback from the non-crazy parts of the Christian faith, they're going to be lumped together by a significant portion of non-believers. It's easy to find countless examples online and in the media of church leaders and followers treating people shitty and completely ignoring the teachings that their book is based on. It's incredibly rare to see any pushback from the non-extreme believers that are always brought up in defense to create distance from the extreme.

[JPhillips]

There's a ton of pushback, it just doesn't have the media apparatus that the Christian nationalists have. Look at any number of Catholic nuns. Look at PCUSA, the Disciples of Christ, or the Episcopalians. Look at any number of Black churches.

The No Kings rallies have had a large component of Catholics and Protestants.

The ICE opposition has been full of Christians.

Most communities have a food pantry or clothes closet or AA meeting space or baby care closet, etc. coming from local churches that are largely in opposition to Christian Nationalism.

[RainMaker]

They love their alcoholics.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE <a href="https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheAtlantic</a> On multiple occasions Patel’s security detail had difficulty waking him because he was seemingly intoxicated, according to info supplied to DOJ and White House officials. A request for “breaching equipment”was made because Patel had been unreachable behind…</p>&mdash; Sarah Fitzpatrick (@S_Fitzpatrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/S_Fitzpatrick/status/2045272330415321198?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 17, 2026</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[JPhillips]

Trump is working with Roger Goodell to get Teddy Roosevelt inducted into the Pro Football HoF.

Yeah, I don't know either.

[CrimsonFox]

They love their alcoholics.



If you worked for trump. Youd drink too

[miami_fan]

The is partially true but we can't pretend there isnt a HUGE rise of christian nationalism and intertwining of politics and religion in this country

That is my point. I am not pretending there hasn't been a huge rise in Christian Nationalism. I am not pretending that the is not an intertwining of politics and religion in this country. I also refuse to sanitize what is happening either. I just refuse to engage in any sort of sugarcoating of what is actually occurring.

[GrantDawg]

Just saw someone say Trump is playing "5 dementia chess". The world may be crumbling around us, but at least we can still find ways to be funny.

[JPhillips]

Fascinating how the Tucker/MTG wing of MAGA has gone all in on the Trump shooting being fake.

[Fidatelo]

Trump and his cronies will lie about anything but didn't someone in the crowd die? I feel like that really complicates the "it was staged" theories unless these clowns are even more evil than I give them credit for.

[RainMaker]

It seems like one of the dumber conspiracy theories. It is odd they have essentially hidden all evidence but I just assumed it's because the shooter turned out not to be the antifa trans supersoldier they wanted to portray him as. Just a boring guy from a conservative family like the Kirk shooter.

[JPhillips]

To be clear, I think the idea that it was faked is totally crazy. I'm just really intrigued by how the most nutty faction of MAGA has turned their Pizzagate tendencies onto Trump.

[Swaggs]

One of the parts that makes it hard to believe it was not staged is that there are so, so many things that he never shuts up about, but he somehow never talks about this?

If you are a guy and you ever have a harrowing event happen, where you just barely escaped having something life threatening or otherwise really bad thing happen, you don't just not talk about it!

[Danny]

Given how narcissistic he is, something which causes him to actually think about his own mortality could very well be something he doesnt want to talk or think about.

[NobodyHere]

Chavez-DeRemer stepping down as labor secretary (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/chavez-deremer-stepping-down-as-labor-secretary/ar-AA21lrqR?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=69e6a1d569fa473baeaf3cdfb2caf64c&ei=15)

A cabinet member with a drinking problem and who has affairs?

Trump only picks the best people!

[NobodyHere]

This one had better be just fake news

Donald Trump reportedly faced unprecedented resistance over nuclear codes amid Iran war (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/donald-trump-reportedly-faced-unprecedented-resistance-over-nuclear-codes-amid-iran-war/ar-AA21nmcQ?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=69e78e37f0e8453daee47f610adc3ecc&cvpid=69e78f09b853402490df4879c62997b8&ei=32)

[JPhillips]

Our Defense Secretary, who once said he hadn't washed his hands in ten years, is doing away with the mandatory flu vaccination for service members.

[Lathum]

I mean, what could possibly go wrong with an influenza outbreak on a nuclear sub.

[Lathum]

This one had better be just fake news

Donald Trump reportedly faced unprecedented resistance over nuclear codes amid Iran war (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/donald-trump-reportedly-faced-unprecedented-resistance-over-nuclear-codes-amid-iran-war/ar-AA21nmcQ?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=69e78e37f0e8453daee47f610adc3ecc&cvpid=69e78f09b853402490df4879c62997b8&ei=32)

MSM is reporting it so I suspect it is true. The most shocking part of that reporting is that there are still people in the Trump orbit who will act as guardrails.

[RainMaker]

So let me get this straight. We are going to bail out the UAE. They are going to use that money to invest in the purchase of Warner Bros for Paramount so that they can own most of the media in the country.

[RainMaker]

This one had better be just fake news

Donald Trump reportedly faced unprecedented resistance over nuclear codes amid Iran war (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/donald-trump-reportedly-faced-unprecedented-resistance-over-nuclear-codes-amid-iran-war/ar-AA21nmcQ?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=69e78e37f0e8453daee47f610adc3ecc&cvpid=69e78f09b853402490df4879c62997b8&ei=32)

Isn't that what people took from "destroying their civilization"? I thought it was a pretty clear threat for nuclear bombs.

[NobodyHere]

Looks like another TACO Tuesday

MSN (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-extends-ceasefire-in-iran-indefinitely/ar-AA21q3Sb?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=69e7e60027174f16b2e7e9022665e1bc&ei=11)

I am glad for this one. Hopefully we can get out of this mess sooner rather than later.

[GrantDawg]

Isn't that what people took from "destroying their civilization"? I thought it was a pretty clear threat for nuclear bombs.

Possible. I still think ot might have been an EMP attack, and we have some non-nuclear options for that, though a nuclear EMP would be less targeted and more devastating.

[Passacaglia]

Isn't that what people took from "destroying their civilization"? I thought it was a pretty clear threat for nuclear bombs.

I think it doesn't count as that unless he says "our words are backed by NUCLEAR WEAPONS"

[RainMaker]

<code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Did Kash Patel read his own lawsuit? <br><br>When asked why he was locked out of his computer — as The Atlantic reported and Patel *admitted* in his lawsuit — Patel denied it happened: &quot;I was never locked out of my systems,&quot; he just claimed. <br><br>What his lawsuit says:… <a href="https://t.co/uS1sM1pxwF">pic.twitter.com/uS1sM1pxwF</a></p>&mdash; Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) <a href="https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/2046713425720377564?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2026</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code>

[Lathum]

Looks like the redistricting in Virginia is going to pass.

I am not a fan of this but they started it in Texas and it is nice to see the dems actually fight back

[Lathum]

It is funny seeing the outrage from the GOP this morning about the VA referendum. Shamelessness is their superpower.

[Atocep]

I'm not optimistic that this gets past the VA Supreme Court. If it does hold then the bullshit redistricting likely comes out as draw even if Florida tries to maximize its gerrymandering.

Conservatives claim Texas was just fixing their maps, which ignores the fact that Trump asked them to go find him 5 seats, that kicked of their redistricting plan, and they happened to find 5 seats.

[JPhillips]

I thought Trump saying we might bail out Spirit was just talk, but apparently we're looking at basically buyng Spirit. A few hundred million for 90% of the company.

[Lathum]

I'm not optimistic that this gets past the VA Supreme Court. If it does hold then the bullshit redistricting likely comes out as draw even if Florida tries to maximize its gerrymandering.

Conservatives claim Texas was just fixing their maps, which ignores the fact that Trump asked them to go find him 5 seats, that kicked of their redistricting plan, and they happened to find 5 seats.

Just heard a VA state rep say they don't expect the Supreme Court to overturn the will of the voters.

[RainMaker]

There is a bill that Republicans can pass that would make gerrymandering illegal nationwide but they don't want to do that. This is on them.

[Atocep]

We have a new variation of alternative facts. RFK Jr. told congress today that Trump has a different way of calculating percentages, which is why he keeps saying 500% or 600% reduction in drug prices.

[Ghost Econ]

We have a new variation of alternative facts. RFK Jr. told congress today that Trump has a different way of calculating percentages, which is why he keeps saying 500% or 600% reduction in drug prices.

Homer: There's three ways to do things. The right way, the wrong way, and the Donald Trump way!

Bart: Isn't that the wrong way?

Homer: Yeah, but faster.

[JPhillips]

He said going from 600 to 10 is a 600% reduction and even with stupid math I can't figure that out.

If it's just times 600, well that would get 6000.

If it's times six that gets to 60.

If it's plus 600 that gets to 610.

[Lathum]

Trump claiming the Virginia referendum was rigged because of course.

[JPhillips]

Secretary of the Navy out.

[GrantDawg]

I thought Trump saying we might bail out Spirit was just talk, but apparently we're looking at basically buyng Spirit. A few hundred million for 90% of the company.

Good thing we are being "saved" from socialism.

[Atocep]

Secretary of the Navy out.

He was horribly unqualified for the job and apparently failing horribly. He effectively bought the job by donating to Trump's campaign. At least his replacement served in the Navy.

[JPhillips]

He also thinks Monterey is overrun by literal witches, so...

Regardless, firing the heads of the Army and Navy after a few weeks of war doesn't instill confidence in the team.

[RainMaker]

Who is the guy that claims he teleported to a Waffle House?

[Atocep]

Who is the guy that claims he teleported to a Waffle House?

Head of FEMA, Greg Phillips. He's claimed to have done it more than 50 times.

[Kodos]

At least he has an unusual talent.

[Lathum]

He was horribly unqualified for the job and apparently failing horribly. He effectively bought the job by donating to Trump's campaign. At least his replacement served in the Navy.

Being reported Hegseth was mad because the secretary was so close with Trump that he would go directly to him over Hegseths head. So the genius fired one of Trumps closest buddies. I am sure this will end well for him.

[cuervo72]

Head of FEMA, Greg Phillips. He's claimed to have done it more than 50 times.

The whole setup for this sounds like something out of an old ZZ Top song.