Obama versus McCain (versus the rest) - Page 178

SirFozzie · 10-29-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I'll admit I am a troll when you admit you are so blinded by your views that you couldn't see you feet if they were right in front of your face. This doesn't just apply to politics, it applies to everything about your views...from sports on. You only see one side Foz. If you can't see that, there are probably 100 threads (I am underestimating) that any one of us could point to as proof.

I am not upset that "my side is taking a shellacking". I want what is best for the country. I don't think Obama is it, but if he wins he can prove me wrong. I'm not going to throw a fit like a lot of democrats did when Bush won in 04. I am not going to threaten to move to Canada. I'm hear for the long haul and will make the best of my life no matter who is President.

There are issues I side with Obama but for the majority I side with McCain. You see I can admit things like this...you can't. I bet you are one of those people that walks up to the voting booth and pulls the lever next to Democrats, and walks away.

Actually, let's see.

Last election I voted for Duval Patrick, true. Before that, I voted for the following people (all of whom were elected as Governor)

94: Weld
98: Cellucci
02: Romney (although I much regretted it later, when Romney went hard right to get ready for his Presidential run).

Scott Brown is my State Senator, and I've voted for him ever since he did an interview for the radio station I worked at the time

Want to know something interesting, Sak? All of them have big ol fashioned R's next to their name on the ballot.

So your insinuation that I am some kind of Democrat sheep is ridiculous. As I have stated before. I'm a registered indepedent. I may lean Democrat in general, but I'm no sheep.

As I said, and you've completely ignored.. I'll mock stupidity on all sides. Is it really my fault that most of the stupidity, the hypocricy, and the idiocy has been coming from the right hand side of the political ledger the last few years?

If I was truly the democrat-sheep you try to paint me at, I would have pointed out that Mahoney was a Republican, and turned Democrat to run for Foley's seat, and said something pithy like "Guess you can't reform a Republican".

I hate the Kos Kiddies as much as I hate the Freepers.

Kodos · 10-29-2008, 04:07 PM

You voted for Scott Baio?

SirFozzie · 10-29-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

You voted for Scott Baio?

*hits you with a nine iron*

Kodos · 10-29-2008, 04:10 PM

So you support Bush's policy of torture?

Galaxy · 10-29-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

You voted for Scott Baio?

"Scott Baio is 48, Married, a Dad, and Running for Office"

SirFozzie · 10-29-2008, 04:16 PM

No, if I supported Bush's policies on torture, I wouldn't hit you with the nine iron, I'd just stick it in an uncomfortable place before having you waterboarded.

lordscarlet · 10-29-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

You aren't the one I am talking about.

Hm, I wonder who it was...

Galaxy · 10-29-2008, 04:28 PM

Interesting article:

Social conservatives fight for control of Republican Party - Los Angeles Times

Arles · 10-29-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I don't think it's the political affiliaton as much as the manner in which he posts his opinions. He can be very condescending. I dunno. If I were a game designer posting on a forum with prospective customers, I would make sure not to get involved in threads where stating my opinions might offend customers.

I try not to be condescending, but there's always that risk in a political thread. I think your point is correct and there is also a risk of losing customers the more people find out about you politically (as Jon said as well). I would also state that I think there is some advantage to being active in a community like FOFC outside of just comments on your game. In the end, I think it's a net gain to be involved, but there is a chance for some people to not want to support you.

After the election, I will probably dial back the political thread involvement as I just won't be as interested. So, that's probably a good thing in some respects. Still, I was a poster on FOFC before I started making games and enjoy the discussions here.

SirFozzie · 10-29-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

Interesting article:

Social conservatives fight for control of Republican Party - Los Angeles Times

I saw somewhere, a speculation that there's likely going to be a fight between the Social Conservatives who will flock to Palin, and the financial conservatives who want Romney to be the 2012 candidate. Not to mention the neo-cons..

I see they have a big conference/post-mortem scheduled for 2 days after the election. Hopefully for the Republican Party, they get all their horses pulling in the same direction

Galaxy · 10-29-2008, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

I saw somewhere, a speculation that there's likely going to be a fight between the Social Conservatives who will flock to Palin, and the financial conservatives who want Romney to be the 2012 candidate. Not to mention the neo-cons..

I see they have a big conference/post-mortem scheduled for 2 days after the election. Hopefully for the Republican Party, they get all their horses pulling in the same direction

I just don't see social conservatism winning elections and congressional seats outside the bible belt.

Dr. Sak · 10-29-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lordscarlet

Hm, I wonder who it was...

Batman

JonInMiddleGA · 10-29-2008, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

I saw somewhere, a speculation that there's likely going to be a fight between the Social Conservatives who will flock to Palin,

Make a note: Any flocking in her direction will be temporary. More effective candidates will emerge (and/or reappear) to take the bulk of that wing.

SirFozzie · 10-29-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Make a note: Any flocking in her direction will be temporary. More effective candidates will emerge (and/or reappear) to take the bulk of that wing.

I certainly hope so, Jon.. buit where you have people declaring the litmus test of "Who's really a republican?" coming out of the 08 election is how you reacted to Palin throughout the election, it makes me worried, that they're going to spend the next four years, making Palin out to be Reagan reborn.. put the cult of personality around Obama to shame.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-29-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

I certainly hope so, Jon.. buit where you have people declaring the litmus test of "Who's really a republican?" coming out of the 08 election is how you reacted to Palin throughout the election, it makes me worried, that they're going to spend the next four years, making Palin out to be Reagan reborn.. put the cult of personality around Obama to shame.

Pish tosh. She was the only available port in a very bad storm. She'd have to be lucky to finish third in a three horse race with Huck & Mitt. After next week, with the exception of the occasional scandal notable only because was briefly relevant, she'll be less notable than the remainder of Ferraro's career. Basically she'll be to politics what Danny Bonaduce is to celebrity.

JPhillips · 10-29-2008, 05:13 PM

I still fear Huckabee more than anyone else on the Republican side. From what I've seen he's far and away the best politician. A McCain/Huckabee ticket would have been a much tougher match IMO.

flere-imsaho · 10-29-2008, 05:15 PM

Huckabee, Romney, Leiberman, Giuliani, Pawlenty and Jindal would all likely have been better, electorally, for McCain. Perhaps the only major name who would have been worse is Fred Thompson.

larrymcg421 · 10-29-2008, 05:20 PM

I think it depends on what the landscape is when election season starts. If Obama has turned things around and has high approval ratings, Mitt, Jindal, and co. will be sitting it out. In that scenario, I could see Palin getting in as a sacrifice candidate.

If Obama is tanking, then it will be a free for all and Palin won't stand a chance.

albionmoonlight · 10-29-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

I think it depends on what the landscape is when election season starts. If Obama has turned things around and has high approval ratings, Mitt, Jindal, and co. will be sitting it out. In that scenario, I could see Palin getting in as a sacrifice candidate.

If Obama is tanking, then it will be a free for all and Palin won't stand a chance.

Yup.

(Although we see how well waiting an election did for Hillary. Letting Kerry be the sacrificial lamb in 2004 worked out fine. The second part of the plan, however. . . .)

Arles · 10-29-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

A McCain/Huckabee ticket would have been a much tougher match IMO.

Agree completely. As much as I like Palin, I think she's a better fit for RNC chair than Pres/VP. She motivates the base and can raise money, but I'm not sure I want her running the country. I would be very interested in Romney, Jindal, maybe Huckabee and maybe even Rudy. Outside of Romney (who's Mormon faith will always hurt him in elections), I could see any of the rest beating Obama in 2012 if there's an opening.

cartman · 10-29-2008, 05:59 PM

I'm gonna laugh my ass off if this is how the 30 minute Obama ad starts:

HI AMERICA, BILLY MAYS HERE WITH A MESSAGE ABOUT BARACK OBAMA!

Crapshoot · 10-29-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Pish tosh. She was the only available port in a very bad storm. She'd have to be lucky to finish third in a three horse race with Huck & Mitt. After next week, with the exception of the occasional scandal notable only because was briefly relevant, she'll be less notable than the remainder of Ferraro's career. Basically she'll be to politics what Danny Bonaduce is to celebrity.

This is really interesting to me - because I'm looking at Red State and Free Republic (two of which I consider the bigger hard-core "conservative" sites, the latter more nut jobby than the former), and I seem to see a lot of Palin is great, Palin in 2012 bit - and a fair amounts of attacks on Romney. I'm happy to be proven wrong, but I'd be curious for your thoughts on this phenomenon - is it just because she's the only "red meat" for them in this race (as expected, McCain has liimted support there - solid support at RedState, "Not Obama" support at best at Free Republic).

Schmidty · 10-29-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

You ain't Manfred Mann and I'm not "Blinded by the Light". I think the problem is you're speaking the Trollish language here.

So, apparently it's a circle jerk when people make fun of a Democrat having multiple mistresses and basically pimping her out at political gatherings?

We're not Anti-Republican. We're anti STUPID. Is it our fault that most of the stupid things this election have had a big R next to them? If the D's stand for Dumb instead of Democrat, then we make fun of them too,.

Admit it, you're just upset that your "side" is about to take its second straight shellacking at the polls and lashing out.

Did you just call Sak a troll???

Did you just quote the word "side" as if it were beneath you???

Bwahahahahahaha!!!!

DaddyTorgo · 10-29-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

I would avoid Goebbels BBQ.

prolly smart. you wouldn't exactly know what they were BBQ-ing!

*rimshot*

SirFozzie · 10-29-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Schmidty

ADid you just call Sak a troll???

BDid you just quote the word "side" as if it were beneath you???

CBwahahahahahaha!!!!

Well.. let's take them in order.

A) Well, what would you call someone who interrupts a discussion by popping in and says "you guys enjoying your little Demmy Circle Jerk?" Sounds pretty Trollish to me!

B ) Well, more like I was looking for a word to assign there, and side was the best one I came up with on short notice. Realized it didn't totally fit, so put quotes around it.

C)(Retracted with huge apologies to Schmidty. It seems like I am an inadvertent asshole. No Personal Attack was meant)

Big Fo · 10-29-2008, 07:10 PM

$600m in campaign funds and Obama doesn't have his special on in HD? Fuck this guy, I'm voting for Nader.

Buccaneer · 10-29-2008, 07:15 PM

Fozz, you have to admit that most of the Dems here are just closing their ears and saying la-la-la-la hoping that their candidate makes it through to Tuesday without having anything sticking. It really doesn't matter if the associations, hypotheticals, what-ifs, one-partyness cause some discomfort or questions, it is about a change in political culture and getting the opposition party out. We saw the exact same thing in 1980 and in 1992.

SirFozzie · 10-29-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Fozz, you have to admit that most of the Dems here are just closing their ears and saying la-la-la-la hoping that their candidate makes it through to Tuesday without having anything sticking. It really doesn't matter if the associations, hypotheticals, what-ifs, one-partyness cause some discomfort or questions, it is about a change in political culture and getting the opposition party out. We saw the exact same thing in 1980 and in 1992.

I agree. He's been remarkably adept at avoiding anything sticking against him, almost a rubber/glue... and yes, 1980/1992 sounds about right, a political realignment.

SirFozzie · 10-29-2008, 07:39 PM

Further thoughts: (don't mind thedola).. It seems to me that the Right got "Fat, Dumb and Happy", figuring that they had changed where the center rested. Starting with Dean, and now with Obama, the Democrats have played to the theoretical center (50 state strategy, for example).. and are reaping the rewards. That's what worries me about the upcoming circular firing squad that will happen if McCain loses big.. the Democrats came out of their funk and made the right call by moving to the center (Blue Dog Democrats, etcetera), the vibe I'm getting out of reading all these stories is that the Republican party is thinking they're losing because they haven't gone HARD AND FAST ENOUGH to the right. And if that happens. I see things getting worse for them in the short and long term.

That's not good for the nation politically. We need the two parties to act as checks on each other. You take some red, you take some blue, and the scales are balanced. Tip it too hard to one side, and the whole thing falls down like a Jenga puzzle hit with a sldgehamemr.

Tigercat · 10-29-2008, 07:50 PM

So I was out and missed the Barack Halloween special, anyone watch it and can give any kind of synopsis?

Flasch186 · 10-29-2008, 07:50 PM

I think I saw the commercial of the pol season:

You'll recall I think the worst commercial was the doctors picking on McCain over his skin cancer. It was absolute drivel and an awful commercial.

Obama ran a commercial with McCain and some of his quotes about not knowing enough about the economy and that 'he'll need to rely on his VP on issues regarding that.'

The commercial syntax: "Who was his choice?"

And it cuts to Palin's debate where she winked at the camera and then it ends with the syntax:

"Now it's time to make your choice."

A very effective commercial.

sterlingice · 10-29-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by larrymcg421

My favorite BBQ place is Williamson Brothers. They are big time Republican supporters, but as long as they keep cooking some good pig, I don't care. I would avoid Goebbels BBQ.

This post deserves more love

SI

DaddyTorgo · 10-29-2008, 08:04 PM

mccain on larry king live now - whining about how obama didn't take public financing - sounds like a whiny bitch

oh nice - and now larry is hitting him "why hasn't this been a clean campaign like you said you wanted?"

mccain: "well obama didn't respond to my requests for town hall meetings"

sabotai · 10-29-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

oh nice - and now larry is hitting him "why hasn't this been a clean campaign like you said you wanted?"

mccain: "well obama didn't respond to my requests for town hall meetings"

Sounds like the kind of response from someone who watches The Hills.

Big Fo · 10-29-2008, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flasch186

I think I saw the commercial of the pol season:

You'll recall I think the worst commercial was the doctors picking on McCain over his skin cancer. It was absolute drivel and an awful commercial.

Obama ran a commercial with McCain and some of his quotes about not knowing enough about the economy and that 'he'll need to rely on his VP on issues regarding that.'

The commercial syntax: "Who was his choice?"

And it cuts to Palin's debate where she winked at the camera and then it ends with the syntax:

"Now it's time to make your choice."

A very effective commercial.

Here's the video

Quote:

oh nice - and now larry is hitting him "why hasn't this been a clean campaign like you said you wanted?"

mccain: "well obama didn't respond to my requests for town hall meetings"

haha, he never gets tired of trotting that excuse out there.

DaddyTorgo · 10-29-2008, 08:14 PM

lol - we have a "maverick" sighting from McCain.

"sarah's a maverick. i'm a maverick."

DaddyTorgo · 10-29-2008, 08:15 PM

Larry: "You're flying over the Pacific - between nowhere and nowhere. There's an attack on the U.S. How much confidence do you have in your V.P.?"

McCain: "Total."

yikes

SirFozzie · 10-29-2008, 08:17 PM

100,000 Views. Grats all.

DaddyTorgo · 10-29-2008, 08:25 PM

McCain: "...Joe the Plumber"

LOL

"...Joe the Plumber" (again)

DaddyTorgo · 10-29-2008, 08:27 PM

McCain: "40% of Americans pay no taxes...so he's just going to take money from other people and give it to them!"

1) that can't be an accurate #
2) If they're not paying taxes they're not getting a tax cut you doddering old fool

SirFozzie · 10-29-2008, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

McCain: "40% of Americans pay no taxes...so he's just going to take money from other people and give it to them!"

1) that can't be an accurate #
2) If they're not paying taxes they're not getting a tax cut you doddering old fool

DT: on #2 I think he's referring to post loopholes, post exemptions, etcetera

Big Fo · 10-29-2008, 08:30 PM

I thought that 40% was the amount of people that didn't pay federal income tax but there were still payroll taxes, state taxes, etc.

DaddyTorgo · 10-29-2008, 08:30 PM

hmm? what do you mean?

DaddyTorgo · 10-29-2008, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fo

I thought that 40% was the amount of people that didn't pay federal income tax but there were still payroll taxes, state taxes, etc.

that may be closer to accurate - but i still think that seems like an awfully high %.

Galaxy · 10-29-2008, 08:35 PM

I don't this inexperienced thing with Sarah and if McCain happens to unable to lead. How is Obama better when it comes to experience? Is it because Obama is "well-known"? How does that make him better to lead? I'm not taking sides, just asking a general question.

st.cronin · 10-29-2008, 08:41 PM

I have read that there are more registered voters than people who pay income tax in the US, so that sounds about right to me.

Big Fo · 10-29-2008, 08:48 PM

Man, what is it with Florida and elections?

Quote:

L.A. Times poll of early voters

Already Voted:

Florida: McCain 49%, Obama 45%, Don't Know 6%

Ohio: Obama 57%, McCain 35%, Don't Know 3%

LA Times poll

How do you not know who you voted for? Hopefully that was just those people's way of saying "mind your own business."

Galaxy · 10-29-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

McCain: "40% of Americans pay no taxes...so he's just going to take money from other people and give it to them!"

1) that can't be an accurate #
2) If they're not paying taxes they're not getting a tax cut you doddering old fool

The Tax Foundation - Number of Americans Paying Zero Federal Income Tax Grows to 43.4 Million

If your cutting tax rates for those who get it all back and more, they could get even more back (depending on the credits/deductions).

sterlingice · 10-29-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

Man, what is it with Florida and elections?

How do you not know who you voted for? Hopefully that was just those people's way of saying "mind your own business."

I believe the correct answer is "Pat Buchanan"

SI

DaddyTorgo · 10-29-2008, 08:54 PM

that's absurd. there shouldn't be anyone not paying federal income tax (who makes above minimum wage)

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10-29-2008, 04:07 PM	#8852
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10-29-2008, 04:10 PM	#8854
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10-29-2008, 04:16 PM	#8856
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10-29-2008, 05:13 PM	#8866
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I still fear Huckabee more than anyone else on the Republican side. From what I've seen he's far and away the best politician. A McCain/Huckabee ticket would have been a much tougher match IMO. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

10-29-2008, 04:28 PM	#8858
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Interesting article: Social conservatives fight for control of Republican Party - Los Angeles Times

10-29-2008, 05:15 PM	#8867
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Huckabee, Romney, Leiberman, Giuliani, Pawlenty and Jindal would all likely have been better, electorally, for McCain. Perhaps the only major name who would have been worse is Fred Thompson.

10-29-2008, 05:20 PM	#8868
larrymcg421 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Georgia	I think it depends on what the landscape is when election season starts. If Obama has turned things around and has high approval ratings, Mitt, Jindal, and co. will be sitting it out. In that scenario, I could see Palin getting in as a sacrifice candidate. If Obama is tanking, then it will be a free for all and Palin won't stand a chance. __________________ Top 10 Songs of the Year 1955-Present (1976 Added) Franchise Portfolio Draft Winner Fictional Character Draft Winner Television Family Draft Winner Build Your Own Hollywood Studio Draft Winner Last edited by larrymcg421 : 10-29-2008 at 05:25 PM.

10-29-2008, 05:59 PM	#8871
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I'm gonna laugh my ass off if this is how the 30 minute Obama ad starts: HI AMERICA, BILLY MAYS HERE WITH A MESSAGE ABOUT BARACK OBAMA! __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-29-2008, 07:10 PM	#8876
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	$600m in campaign funds and Obama doesn't have his special on in HD? Fuck this guy, I'm voting for Nader.

10-29-2008, 07:15 PM	#8877
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Fozz, you have to admit that most of the Dems here are just closing their ears and saying la-la-la-la hoping that their candidate makes it through to Tuesday without having anything sticking. It really doesn't matter if the associations, hypotheticals, what-ifs, one-partyness cause some discomfort or questions, it is about a change in political culture and getting the opposition party out. We saw the exact same thing in 1980 and in 1992.

10-29-2008, 07:39 PM	#8879
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Further thoughts: (don't mind thedola).. It seems to me that the Right got "Fat, Dumb and Happy", figuring that they had changed where the center rested. Starting with Dean, and now with Obama, the Democrats have played to the theoretical center (50 state strategy, for example).. and are reaping the rewards. That's what worries me about the upcoming circular firing squad that will happen if McCain loses big.. the Democrats came out of their funk and made the right call by moving to the center (Blue Dog Democrats, etcetera), the vibe I'm getting out of reading all these stories is that the Republican party is thinking they're losing because they haven't gone HARD AND FAST ENOUGH to the right. And if that happens. I see things getting worse for them in the short and long term. That's not good for the nation politically. We need the two parties to act as checks on each other. You take some red, you take some blue, and the scales are balanced. Tip it too hard to one side, and the whole thing falls down like a Jenga puzzle hit with a sldgehamemr. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com Last edited by SirFozzie : 10-29-2008 at 07:41 PM.

10-29-2008, 07:50 PM	#8880
Tigercat College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Federal Way, WA	So I was out and missed the Barack Halloween special, anyone watch it and can give any kind of synopsis?

10-29-2008, 07:50 PM	#8881
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	I think I saw the commercial of the pol season: You'll recall I think the worst commercial was the doctors picking on McCain over his skin cancer. It was absolute drivel and an awful commercial. Obama ran a commercial with McCain and some of his quotes about not knowing enough about the economy and that 'he'll need to rely on his VP on issues regarding that.' The commercial syntax: "Who was his choice?" And it cuts to Palin's debate where she winked at the camera and then it ends with the syntax: "Now it's time to make your choice." A very effective commercial. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL Last edited by Flasch186 : 10-29-2008 at 07:55 PM.

10-29-2008, 08:04 PM	#8883
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	mccain on larry king live now - whining about how obama didn't take public financing - sounds like a whiny bitch oh nice - and now larry is hitting him "why hasn't this been a clean campaign like you said you wanted?" mccain: "well obama didn't respond to my requests for town hall meetings" Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 10-29-2008 at 08:05 PM.

10-29-2008, 08:14 PM	#8886
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	lol - we have a "maverick" sighting from McCain. "sarah's a maverick. i'm a maverick."

10-29-2008, 08:15 PM	#8887
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Larry: "You're flying over the Pacific - between nowhere and nowhere. There's an attack on the U.S. How much confidence do you have in your V.P.?" McCain: "Total." yikes

10-29-2008, 08:17 PM	#8888
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	100,000 Views. Grats all. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-29-2008, 08:25 PM	#8889
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	McCain: "...Joe the Plumber" LOL "...Joe the Plumber" (again)

10-29-2008, 08:27 PM	#8890
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	McCain: "40% of Americans pay no taxes...so he's just going to take money from other people and give it to them!" 1) that can't be an accurate # 2) If they're not paying taxes they're not getting a tax cut you doddering old fool

10-29-2008, 08:30 PM	#8892
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	I thought that 40% was the amount of people that didn't pay federal income tax but there were still payroll taxes, state taxes, etc.

10-29-2008, 08:30 PM	#8893
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	hmm? what do you mean?

10-29-2008, 08:35 PM	#8895
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	I don't this inexperienced thing with Sarah and if McCain happens to unable to lead. How is Obama better when it comes to experience? Is it because Obama is "well-known"? How does that make him better to lead? I'm not taking sides, just asking a general question. Last edited by Galaxy : 10-29-2008 at 08:43 PM.

10-29-2008, 08:41 PM	#8896
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I have read that there are more registered voters than people who pay income tax in the US, so that sounds about right to me. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-29-2008, 08:54 PM	#8900
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	that's absurd. there shouldn't be anyone not paying federal income tax (who makes above minimum wage)

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