How did those songs become hits? - Page 2

ISiddiqui · 01-07-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hurst2112

HA! thanks for showing your music history ignorance. back of the line.

Considering that something that many familiar with the music industry would say, I may have to ask who is being the ignorant one here.

The connection of punk with hip-hop was obviously there, but never fully exploited as well prior to the Beastie Boys.

chesapeake · 01-07-2009, 09:51 AM

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Which brings me to the recorded liner used by a local station on their Friday night metal show, something to the effect that "it was a time when metal ruled the airwaves & music was good ... until Kurt Cobain came along & fucked it all up".

Heh. One man's satan is another man's savior.

Hurst2112 · 01-07-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Considering that something that many familiar with the music industry would say, I may have to ask who is being the ignorant one here.

The connection of punk with hip-hop was obviously there, but never fully exploited as well prior to the Beastie Boys.

The comment that was given:

I like the Beastie Boys and think they created something new and imaginative. Rush is... meh.

I read it as Rush didn't create anything new and imaginative. If you don't like Rush, that's fine. I just think that in the grand scheme of things, Rush has had more of an influence on music in the last 35 years than TBBs have. IMHO of course.

(and actually, I give most of the credit for them becoming household names to Rick Rubin. Without him, they would be another shitty punk band lost in the history of east coast music).

Lastly, my words were a little harsh in regards to the statement I was responding to. My apologies for that. I will still say you are wrong but with more tact.

King of New York · 01-07-2009, 12:25 PM

Beasties > Rush

Sure, as individuals, Rush are the better musicians--in fact, Geddy Lee and Neil Peart are fabulous musicians, from a technical point of view--but their songwriting is weak. Like much prog rock, Rush music is hard to play and harder to listen to.

Starting with Paul's Boutique, the Beasties were in the zone, fusing various black and white musical genres together and combining it with their own oddball sensibility and offbeat humor.

That having been said, I realize that the Beasties' music has a natural appeal to someone from New York, and that I would probably appreciate Rush more if I were from Medicine Hat

Hurst2112 · 01-07-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by King of New York

but their songwriting is weak.

That actually made me laugh out loud.

Subby · 01-07-2009, 12:53 PM

The only fact in this thread is that RendeR is a mega douche.

stevew · 01-07-2009, 01:21 PM

Wouldn't that be MegA DouchE

King of New York · 01-07-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hurst2112

That actually made me laugh out loud.

When has Geddy Lee ever written a song as poignant and lyrically sophisticated as "Heart Attack Man?"

Sgran · 01-07-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by King of New York

When has Geddy Lee ever written a song as poignant and lyrically sophisticated as "Heart Attack Man?"

Actually I'm pretty sure the B-Boys stole the line "He's like a man in a hefty bag" from Caress of Steel.

Hurst2112 · 01-07-2009, 04:10 PM

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Actually I'm pretty sure the B-Boys stole the line "He's like a man in a hefty bag" from Caress of Steel.

No, but they used to sample Tom Sawyer during their concerts.

hxxp://www.esnips.com/doc/ae2c5ddf-ed1b-4dbd-a5d0-73e786c6a445/Beastie-Boys---Tom-Sawyer-(Rush-Cover---Mix-Master-Mike-Remix)--Live--1

But whatever.

chesapeake · 01-07-2009, 04:11 PM

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Actually I'm pretty sure the B-Boys stole the line "He's like a man in a hefty bag" from Caress of Steel.

Knowing what to steal and when to steal it is the sign of genius.

Hurst2112 · 01-07-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chesapeake

Knowing what to steal and when to steal it is the sign of genius.

'I'd rather invent it than steal that shit, yo'

-Nicholi Tesla

RendeR · 01-07-2009, 06:25 PM

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The only fact in this thread is that RendeR is a mega douche.

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Originally Posted by stevew

Wouldn't that be MegA DouchE

Quiet cihldren, the adults are talking here.

st.cronin · 01-08-2009, 12:57 AM

I have never understood the appeal of Rush.

Creep is one of my all-time favorite songs - I'm a big Radiohead fan, and I consider it their masterpiece.

Hurst2112 · 01-08-2009, 09:06 AM

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I have never understood the appeal of Rush.

Seeing as how they have sold as many albums as they have (shitloads), it can't be only a musician thing. There's a vast mix of people at their shows but for me, it was the musicianship aspect. A lot of people can say that.

I like Radiohead a bit. I like OK Computer. I think Paranoid Android is light years beyond Creep but then again, I like all that prog stuff.

flere-imsaho · 01-08-2009, 09:41 AM

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I have never understood the appeal of Rush.

I was drawn in by the sci-fi/fantasy aspect of the lyrics (I was a teenager at the time) and stayed for the musicianship.

And I'll always have a special place in my heart for "The Pass" (off of Presto). I saw the video before my junior year state championship skiing meet, and the next day couldn't get the song out of my mind. So it was what I had in my mind that whole race, which was probably my best individual athletic performance ever (topped only by anchoring the relay leg the next year that won us the overall state championship for the 4th year in a row).

Hurst2112 · 01-08-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

I was drawn in by the sci-fi/fantasy aspect of the lyrics (I was a teenager at the time) and stayed for the musicianship.

And I'll always have a special place in my heart for "The Pass" (off of Presto). I saw the video before my junior year state championship skiing meet, and the next day couldn't get the song out of my mind. So it was what I had in my mind that whole race, which was probably my best individual athletic performance ever (topped only by anchoring the relay leg the next year that won us the overall state championship for the 4th year in a row).

good song.

what frustrates me about anti rush people is that they have never heard some of their best written songs. Some of the stuff from the 80s to early 90s is really sweet. The lyrics are soooo far from the teenage D&D stuff.

Back on topic:

Abracadabra by Steve Miller is my nomination of the day. Horrible song that got tons of radio play.

Autumn · 01-08-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hurst2112

good song.
Abracadabra by Steve Miller is my nomination of the day. Horrible song that got tons of radio play.

Obviously it gained hit status by immediately infecting the listener's brain, as your mere mention of it has caused it to loop infinitely in my mind.

arrrgggggg

Kodos · 01-08-2009, 02:51 PM

I like to sing it as "ABBA, ABBA cadavers -- they're gonna reach out and grab ya."

Steve Miller Band is awful..

Dr. Sak · 01-15-2009, 02:01 PM

For you Radiohead fans...watch this youtube clip (don't look at the comments)...can you sing one of their songs to this rift??

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Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I like to sing it as "ABBA, ABBA cadavers -- they're gonna reach out and grab ya." Steve Miller Band is awful.. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

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Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	For you Radiohead fans...watch this youtube clip (don't look at the comments)...can you sing one of their songs to this rift??

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