NFL Week 8 Discussion Thread: Randy Moss Claimed on Waivers by the Titans

[MikeVic]

Shanahan's lost it.

[jbergey22]

Jamarcus has been working out with John Lucas to apparently get his life back together.

JaMarcus Russell working with John Lucas, still hopes to return to NFL | al.com

[JAG]

Originally Posted by molson

The Redskins may have finally found a guy with with physical and mental durability to run their 2-minute offense:

Reports: JaMarcus Russell works out for Washington Redskins - ESPN

You just can't make this stuff up.

[molson]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Jamarcus has been working out with John Lucas to apparently get his life back together.

JaMarcus Russell working with John Lucas, still hopes to return to NFL | al.com

Does Jamarcus realize that Lucas played basketball?

Who will he seek guidence from next, Mario Andretti?

[spleen1015]

[MikeVic]

Josh Hamilton. And then he'll sign with Dallas so they could have the Texas headline involving those two being straight now.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

So this year I've heard Montana equated with Kenny Amderson and now Young compared to Eli Manning. What the fuck? Seriously?

I know, what an insult to Eli...

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Jamarcus has been working out with John Lucas to apparently get his life back together.

JaMarcus Russell working with John Lucas, still hopes to return to NFL | al.com

He needs to work out with this guy



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[Blackadar]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

As a Cuse native myself, which McNabb is not, he has pretty much underachieved in the NFL compared to his expectations. Sort of an embarassment for being an ex-Orangemen.

You just didn't call a 6 time Pro-Bowl QB with a career winning percentage of 64% an underachiever or an embarrassment, did you? In the 5 year stretch from 1997 to 2001 (two years before McNabb's draft and two years after his draft), only 3 guys named Brady, Manning and Brees are demonstrably better. He's met and exceeded any reasonable expectations...unless you think that all 1st Round QBs should go to the Hall of Fame.

[Sun Tzu]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Its unfortunate for you that you spend so much time on these forums without understanding what is being said.

You forgot to add "not remotely!"

Anyone calling Steve Young overrated, and Jerry Rice a career possession receiver...I don't have the words.

[bronconick]

Okay, Lions fans. Shawne Merriman's getting released today if he passes the Chargers' physical. Is that a guy Detroit should look at, or are his injuries already too much?

[JPhillips]

I wish there were some way for washed out vets to get a spot on the practice squad. Maybe offer one designated spot for a 3-8 year vet.

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

You forgot to add "not remotely!"

Anyone calling Steve Young overrated, and Jerry Rice a career possession receiver...I don't have the words.

Steve Young, overrated?

INCONCEIVABLE!

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I wish there were some way for washed out vets to get a spot on the practice squad. Maybe offer one designated spot for a 3-8 year vet.

They have that. It is called the UFL.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by bronconick

Okay, Lions fans. Shawne Merriman's getting released today if he passes the Chargers' physical. Is that a guy Detroit should look at, or are his injuries already too much?

No, I don't think he's a guy the Lions should look at.

What has the guy done in the last two years? I think injuries have taken a toll on him and he's no longer all that productive. There was also that suspicion of him being on the "juice" and ever since that rumor started, he also hasn't been that productive. Throw in the character issues the guy has and the fact that he's much better suited to play outside lineback in a 3-4 and the Lions runs a 4-3, I don't think he's worth it.

The main reason, however, at the end of the day, is that Merriman hasn't done a thing on the football field since 2007.

That said, I really don't know the extent of his injuries or what was injured and the Lions linebacker corps was pretty weak to begin with and has only gotten weaker due to injury.

[johnnyshaka]

I don't think that "juice" rumour is a rumour, wasn't he suspended for banned substances a few years back?

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

You forgot to add "not remotely!"

Anyone calling Steve Young overrated, and Jerry Rice a career possession receiver...I don't have the words.

Rice was a YAC guy. I'd take Moss over Rice any day of the week. Rice wasn't a burner, so he must be a possession WR...no?

Eli was obviously added for humor

Young didn't have a long enough career IMO to merit standing as a top 10 QB. And let's not forget, the only ring he won as a starter was a year the Niners cheeted the salary cap.

He was a good player, we need a tongue in cheek
Smiley.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

I don't think that "juice" rumour is a rumour, wasn't he suspended for banned substances a few years back?

I think so.

[JediKooter]

Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

I don't think that "juice" rumour is a rumour, wasn't he suspended for banned substances a few years back?

Yup, he was suspended for 4 games and I think it's no coincidence that he has not been the same since he got busted.

[Sun Tzu]

Originally Posted by stevew

Rice was a YAC guy. I'd take Moss over Rice any day of the week. Rice wasn't a burner, so he must be a possession WR...no?

Eli was obviously added for humor

Young didn't have a long enough career IMO to merit standing as a top 10 QB. And let's not forget, the only ring he won as a starter was a year the Niners cheeted the salary cap.

He was a good player, we need a tongue in cheek
Smiley.

Calling Rice a YAC guy as a blanket description is ignorant. Yes, he had a lot of YAC yards, but a good number of his catches were also over the top from Montana & Young. He pulled in long passes on a regular basis...if you watched the games you would know this

The 49ers cheated the cap in 1996/97, and were penalized for it. They won the Super Bowl in 1994...I'm not sure where you're getting your information.

[MikeVic]

Originally Posted by stevew

Rice was a YAC guy. I'd take Moss over Rice any day of the week. Rice wasn't a burner, so he must be a possession WR...no?

Eli was obviously added for humor

Young didn't have a long enough career IMO to merit standing as a top 10 QB. And let's not forget, the only ring he won as a starter was a year the Niners cheeted the salary cap.

He was a good player, we need a tongue in cheek
Smiley.

I hope the Moss over Rice is part of the tongue-in-cheek smiley...

[Blackadar]

Originally Posted by stevew

Rice was a YAC guy. I'd take Moss over Rice any day of the week. Rice wasn't a burner, so he must be a possession WR...no?

I luv ya steve, but you're off your rocker. Rice wasn't a blazer, but he was a deep threat - this is a guy who averaged over 18 YPC 3 times in his first 4 1,000 yard seasons. It's easy to think of a 36 year old Rice as a possession WR, but he was an absolute game breaker when he came into the league.

Furthermore, taking Moss over Rice is downright bizarre. I'll take the guy who goes all out every play, has better hands, runs better routes, is a threat to turn a 5 yard slant into a 75 yard TD and blocks every single time over a guy who is a slightly better deep threat.

[Sun Tzu]

I miss Blackie.

[Rizon]

This thread has become like the Maximum Football Thread, except minus all the funny posts.

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Rizon

This thread has become like the Maximum Football Thread, except minus all the funny posts.

Thankfully, we have this post to get us back on the funny track!

[Alan T]

Tecmo Bowl and that cross route to Rice that was a touchdown every single time has warped my impression of what type of WR Rice was for eternity.

[Galaxy]

What the hell is going on in the NFL? The coaches seem to be just as dumb as the players.

[Sun Tzu]

[Sun Tzu]

Dola...

[JediKooter]

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[Sun Tzu]

...what the...

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Tecmo Bowl and that cross route to Rice that was a touchdown every single time has warped my impression of what type of WR Rice was for eternity.

Man, Alan, every route in Tecmo Bowl was a TD if you were any good.

[MikeVic]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

Dola...

nsfw

[thesloppy]

Atari Football is one of the first cabinet games I remember playing...probably 'cuz I repeatedly pinched myself with the trackball.

[JediKooter]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

Atari Football is one of the first cabinet games I remember playing...probably 'cuz I repeatedly pinched myself with the trackball.

That damn trackball tore my hand up too. Then when you got tired of getting your palm pinched by it, you tried to use your thumbs, but, you couldn't go fast enough. Ah, the good 'ol days...

[Suburban Rhythm]

I remember when the Track and Field at the local roller skating rink got ruined.



During the running events, people would use their fists to pound the buttons to run faster. Eventually, they added these little plastic rings around the buttons, so you could only get away with using 1-2 fingers to tap the buttons.

Terrible day.

[SirFozzie]

One funny scenario, as mooted by Jay Glazer: If the Pats resign Moss, and then let him go as a FA during the offseason, they'd get ANOTHER draft pick (a compensatory pick) for him.

[Blackadar]

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

I miss Blackie.

So do I. Maybe I shouldn't have killed him and eaten his liver with fava beans.

[spleen1015]

I don't think he'll get all of the way through waivers so that they can sign him.

Stranger things have happened, but I don't see it.

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

I don't think he'll get all of the way through waivers so that they can sign him.

Stranger things have happened, but I don't see it.

Here's the way someone else put it:

For the low teams on the waiver wire: You're not going to make the playoffs anyway. Do you want to spend four million (his remaining salary) on a player who will worsen your draft pick?

The middle teams: (this is where Randy will go if anywhere) Do you want to spend four million on a gamble? Try to convince your owner that this is the missing piece. You'll probably get told that to see if he gets through waivers and then get him at a cheaper price.

The Top Teams: Randy Moss has shot his way out of two teams in a single season. Do you want to be the third, and risk what's looking to be a good season?

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

I remember when the Track and Field at the local roller skating rink got ruined.



During the running events, people would use their fists to pound the buttons to run faster. Eventually, they added these little plastic rings around the buttons, so you could only get away with using 1-2 fingers to tap the buttons.

Terrible day.

Fists? That's primitive stuff. In my neck of the woods, they put those rings on the buttons to prevent the 'pencil trick', where you'd lodge a pencil in your 3 middle fingers, and then by rocking your hand back and forth, the ends of the pencil would rapidly tap both the buttons.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Tecmo Bowl and that cross route to Rice that was a touchdown every single time has warped my impression of what type of WR Rice was for eternity.

But wasn't it the Roger Craig route that could always be completed no matter how well he was covered?

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by molson

The Redskins may have finally found a guy with with physical and mental durability to run their 2-minute offense:

Reports: JaMarcus Russell works out for Washington Redskins - ESPN

I don't see what's so wrong about this. Don't the Redskins need offensive line help?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

But wasn't it the Roger Craig route that could always be completed no matter how well he was covered?

I don't remember that one. I remember only four plays that could work every single time no matter what.

The Jerry Rice cross
The Willie Gault fly
The Bo Jackson sweep
The Lawrence Taylor blocked field goal

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

Fists? That's primitive stuff. In my neck of the woods, they put those rings on the buttons to prevent the 'pencil trick', where you'd lodge a pencil in your 3 middle fingers, and then by rocking your hand back and forth, the ends of the pencil would rapidly tap both the buttons.

Odd. The only technique I've ever seen used and that I've used is just feathering the buttons with your three fingers.

[jbergey22]

For some reason I can see Moss ending up on the Jets.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I don't remember that one. I remember only four plays that could work every single time no matter what.

The Jerry Rice cross
The Willie Gault fly
The Bo Jackson sweep
The Lawrence Taylor blocked field goal

Or if you wanted to cheat the nose tackle for the chiefs could sack the QB right as the qb got the ball of course that might of been Super Tecmo Bowl.

I remember the Dolphins all hook working every time as well.

[Rizon]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Tecmo Bowl and that cross route to Rice that was a touchdown every single time has warped my impression of what type of WR Rice was for eternity.

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

But wasn't it the Roger Craig route that could always be completed no matter how well he was covered?

Originally Posted by Alan T

I don't remember that one. I remember only four plays that could work every single time no matter what.

The Jerry Rice cross
The Willie Gault fly
The Bo Jackson sweep
The Lawrence Taylor blocked field goal

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Or if you wanted to cheat the nose tackle for the chiefs could sack the QB right as the qb got the ball of course that might of been Super Tecmo Bowl.

I remember the Dolphins all hook working every time as well.

.

[Rizon]

Dola,

A few plays that couldn't be stopped:

2nd Pass from the right, top slot receiver (RB2, I believe)


2nd Pass from the right, swing route to RB2


2nd Pass from left, slant to TE


Also, Bob Nelson of GB was the NT that couldn't be stopped. He was given an incorrect Rushing Power stat (that was given to offensive players) of 69 instead of 31.

[Sun Tzu]

Funny...I've rarely played any iteration of Tecmo Bowl against another person, yet the plays you mentioned are the same ones that I would go back to whenever I needed a high percentage completion. I loved that game...especially the "final edition" for the SNES. It even had career play!