The 2013-2014 NFL Offseason/Coaching/Free Agency (non-draft) Thread - Page 50

Julio Riddols · 08-29-2014, 07:00 PM

They should do a sitcom after they retire called Manning Up - about the life of a couple former QB's post retirement.. Like a football tinged Seinfeld.

Thomkal · 08-29-2014, 07:17 PM

Aldon Smith gets a 9 game suspension, Vikings WR Simpson gets 3.

San Francisco 49ers linebacker Aldon Smith gets nine-game suspension | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo Sports

Vikings WR Simpson gets 3-game suspension by NFL - Yahoo Sports

DaddyTorgo · 08-29-2014, 07:58 PM

Dude made a bomb threat at an airport?

He's lucky he's a fucking NFL player or he'd be facing federal charges. He ought to thank his lucky stars he got JUST 9 games.

BillJasper · 08-29-2014, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Dude made a bomb threat at an airport?

He's lucky he's a fucking NFL player or he'd be facing federal charges. He ought to thank his lucky stars he got JUST 9 games.

+1

Kodos · 08-29-2014, 08:17 PM

Waits patiently for Sun Tzu's meltdown...

Galaril · 08-29-2014, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

+1

+2

BillJasper · 08-30-2014, 07:28 AM

I fully expect the Raiders to throw Derek Carr to the wolves. It's a shame when a QB is taken by a team with a coach and GM that have to win.

BillJasper · 08-30-2014, 11:37 AM

Two thoughts...

How dysfunctional are things in Dallas when Kyle Orton would rather play in Buffalo?

Inside the NFL is now on the NFL Network. Isn't that kind of repetitive since the whole network is about the inside of the NFL?

albionmoonlight · 08-30-2014, 12:16 PM

What sense does this make for the Bills?

Manuel might not be the answer. But what does Kyle-Orton-without-training-camp really give you? Does he make you a playoff team?

I like Kyle Orton. I think that he's either a slightly under-qualified starter or a slightly over-qualified backup. But if he's your play, he has to be the play from the beginning of camp. He can't just come in at the end to ruin your young QB's confidence.

BillJasper · 08-30-2014, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

What sense does this make for the Bills?

Manuel might not be the answer. But what does Kyle-Orton-without-training-camp really give you? Does he make you a playoff team?

I like Kyle Orton. I think that he's either a slightly under-qualified starter or a slightly over-qualified backup. But if he's your play, he has to be the play from the beginning of camp. He can't just come in at the end to ruin your young QB's confidence.

I agree. The signing makes no sense from Buffalo's point-of-view. Orton will have had no time to learn the playbook or develop any kind of timing with the receivers and offensive line.

Though it ultimately doesn't matter. Unless they go deep in the playoffs, I suspect the new owner will fire Marrone and Whaley at the end of the season.

Vince, Pt. II · 08-30-2014, 12:40 PM

So without attempting to open the can of worms on the fairness of the Aldon Smith suspension, how does this response affect player reaction moving forward? Last season, Smith "voluntarily" checked into a rehab program and missed five games. The NFL has stated that this held no bearing in their deliberation over the length of his subsequent suspension.

I think we can all safely say that the rehab check-in was PROBABLY no more than lip service to attempt to reduce the suspension. Moving forward however, I think it's fair to assume that a player in similar circumstances will NEVER do that again, since the league will not consider it.

Regardless of the right or wrong of the decision by the NFL to disregard that when determining the length of suspension, isn't it a loss as a whole to dissuade players from taking necessary, proactive steps to combat this sort of thing in the future?

BillJasper · 08-30-2014, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

So without attempting to open the can of worms on the fairness of the Aldon Smith suspension, how does this response affect player reaction moving forward? Last season, Smith "voluntarily" checked into a rehab program and missed five games. The NFL has stated that this held no bearing in their deliberation over the length of his subsequent suspension.

I think we can all safely say that the rehab check-in was PROBABLY no more than lip service to attempt to reduce the suspension. Moving forward however, I think it's fair to assume that a player in similar circumstances will NEVER do that again, since the league will not consider it.

Regardless of the right or wrong of the decision by the NFL to disregard that when determining the length of suspension, isn't it a loss as a whole to dissuade players from taking necessary, proactive steps to combat this sort of thing in the future?

They may say publicly that it had no bearing but the only ones who truly know are Smith, his agent, the NFL and the NFLPA. Without the rehab, Smith may have gotten a year for his screw-up. If that's the case, that information will trickle down to the players privately.

If Smith doesn't challenge the suspension. Then I think it would be a good guess that the rehab did factor into a shorter penalty.

kingfc22 · 08-30-2014, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

They may say publicly that it had no bearing but the only ones who truly know are Smith, his agent, the NFL and the NFLPA. Without the rehab, Smith may have gotten a year for his screw-up. If that's the case, that information will trickle down to the players privately.

If Smith doesn't challenge the suspension. Then I think it would be a good guess that the rehab did factor into a shorter penalty.

He did appeal and was denied.

BillJasper · 08-30-2014, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

He did appeal and was denied.

Didn't they just suspend him either yesterday or the day before? Seems like a quick rejection for what is two separate suspensions...

This is from Pro Football Talk:

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The NFL has developed a habit over the years of resolving suspensions based on offseason developments before the start of the next regular season. For Smith, who’ll have appeal rights, it becomes more and more difficult to get everything resolved in the next nine days.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ts-a-decision/

BillJasper · 08-30-2014, 01:32 PM

Looks like it was a negotiated settlement:

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The National Football League Players Association negotiated on Smith’s behalf, and as a result, he will be allowed to be on hand at the team facility, something the 49ers and general manager Trent Baalke, who has become close to Smith, hoped would be the case. Smith can train at the facility and attend meetings but not practice with teammates or appeal the ruling.

49ers’ Aldon Smith receives nine-game suspension from NFL - 49ers - The Sacramento Bee

The article later says that Goodell would take his rehab stint into consideration when handing out the punishment:

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Smith, 24, missed five games last season after entering an alcohol rehabilitation center. That followed a September DUI arrest when his pickup truck came to an abrupt halt in the front yard of a San Jose home. A month later, Goodell said the rehab stint would be considered when doling out punishment.

Thomkal · 08-30-2014, 02:35 PM

James Harrison announced his retirement today, interestingly enough after not being able to agree to a deal with my beloved Cardinals.

Former Steelers Super Bowl hero James Harrison announces retirement | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo Sports

Also last round of roster cuts today-so report any interesting/surprising ones here. No real surprises for the Cards. Jets cut former 2nd round WR Stephen Hill...would not surprise me if Carolina gives him a try given their woeful WR core

Matthean · 08-30-2014, 03:18 PM

Sam got cut.

Thomkal · 08-30-2014, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Sam got cut.

aww that sucks

BillJasper · 08-30-2014, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthean

Sam got cut.

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

aww that sucks

Yes and no. Hopefully it'll prove to some internet dufuses that the NFL doesn't have a gay agenda. He probably would've made the team if it wasn't for the other guy (can't remember his name offhand) who could play multiple DL positions.

I think he'll get claimed by someone or end up back with the Rams, on their practice squad.

Thomkal · 08-30-2014, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Yes and no. Hopefully it'll prove to some internet dufuses that the NFL doesn't have a gay agenda. He probably would've made the team if it wasn't for the other guy (can't remember his name offhand) who could play multiple DL positions.

I think he'll get claimed by someone or end up back with the Rams, on their practice squad.

From what I've read, seems very likely someone will sign him-probably the teams who admitted after the draft they would have signed him if he hadn't been drafted-I think the Patriots and Giants amongst others.

Dutch · 08-30-2014, 08:33 PM

He looked pretty good in the highlight reels I saw. Not sure about the rest of the story so far though. Still, you take a flier in the 7th round, now give him some time and see what he develops into.

Danny · 08-30-2014, 08:42 PM

If Sam contributed on special teams he probably would not have got cut . He'll probably latch on with a team that had less defensive line depth than the rams

Warhammer · 08-30-2014, 10:22 PM

Yeah, Ethan Westbrooks has looked even better than Sam and he was primarily up against 1st and 2nd stringers vs. Sam's 2nd and 3rd string. That said many of the Rams boards I frequent were unhappy that we let Sam go. They were hoping one of the other vets on the line would be let go rather than Sam.

BillJasper · 08-31-2014, 11:22 AM

49ers are having a rough off-season:

Report: Ray McDonald arrested for domestic violence | ProFootballTalk

Sam went unclaimed and can now sign with the Rams practice squad.

Thomkal · 08-31-2014, 01:26 PM

Ryan Mallett traded to the Texans for surprisingly just a sixth rounder. Case Keenum released to make room for him.

Matthean · 08-31-2014, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Ryan Mallett traded to the Texans for surprisingly just a sixth rounder. Case Keenum released to make room for him.

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Rapoport did say the Texans were forced to Trade instead of claiming Mallett because the Cowboys were also interested in the backup quarterback.

If all true, Dallas must have not been that interested.

http://abc13.com/288704/

Dutch · 08-31-2014, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

49ers are having a rough off-season:

Report: Ray McDonald arrested for domestic violence | ProFootballTalk

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Before the process reaches that point, the case against McDonald will have to develop. ESPN reported in the aftermath of the announcement of the new policy that an “offense” will arise only after final adjudication of the criminal case, which suggests that a civil settlement with the victim that results in no prosecution could help the player escape punishment.

Whew, for a second there I thought he was screwed, but now he can threaten the fuck out of that bitch and work it out (financially) behind closed doors.

DaddyTorgo · 08-31-2014, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Whew, for a second there I thought he was screwed, but now he can threaten the fuck out of that bitch and work it out (financially) behind closed doors.

You had to figure the policy couldn't have that much in the way of teeth.

Domestic violence is some fucked up shit. It wouldn't surprise me to see (over the next couple years) a strong anti-NFL voice develop among women that culminates in some pressure on advertisers over social media and such threatening a boycott unless the policy is given more teeth.

I mean look - obviously a woman COULD make something up, so I suppose there has to be some sort of standard of proof before the NFL can take action, but I dunno.

We'll see.

Danny · 08-31-2014, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

You had to figure the policy couldn't have that much in the way of teeth.

Domestic violence is some fucked up shit. It wouldn't surprise me to see (over the next couple years) a strong anti-NFL voice develop among women that culminates in some pressure on advertisers over social media and such threatening a boycott unless the policy is given more teeth.

I mean look - obviously a woman COULD make something up, so I suppose there has to be some sort of standard of proof before the NFL can take action, but I dunno.

We'll see.

Of course there has to be a standard of proof. Otherwise you might see someone like Latham making accusations against nick foles

Dutch · 08-31-2014, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I mean look - obviously a woman COULD make something up, so I suppose there has to be some sort of standard of proof before the NFL can take action, but I dunno.

We'll see.

You are absolutely correct, but obviously, we know how that goes in the real world. Oh well, not my problem.

Desnudo · 08-31-2014, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Ryan Mallett traded to the Texans for surprisingly just a sixth rounder. Case Keenum released to make room for him.

He hasn't looked very good so a 6th seems fair. Basically buying a cannon with no accuracy.

Julio Riddols · 08-31-2014, 06:31 PM

Rams ought to grab up Keenum.

BillJasper · 08-31-2014, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Rams ought to grab up Keenum.

Unless they see him as a long-term solution at the position, I don't see the point. I think they'll be okay with Shaun Hill and Austin Davis.

BillJasper · 08-31-2014, 06:45 PM

Chiefs resign Alex Smith. 4 years/68 million with 45 million guaranteed.

Julio Riddols · 08-31-2014, 08:40 PM

I thought Keenum looked pretty good in his time under center last year. I guess the way he tailed off after a strong first few games kinda made the Texans sour on him. Thought he would make a solid backup and maybe eventual starter in a play action down field passing scheme.

jeff061 · 08-31-2014, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

He hasn't looked very good so a 6th seems fair. Basically buying a cannon with no accuracy.

Yeah, I wasn't surprised, if they were able to have gotten a 3rd or 4th he would have been dealt long ago.

gstelmack · 09-01-2014, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

I thought Keenum looked pretty good in his time under center last year. I guess the way he tailed off after a strong first few games kinda made the Texans sour on him. Thought he would make a solid backup and maybe eventual starter in a play action down field passing scheme.

My understanding is that many young QBs have a strong first couple of games because there isn't much film on them, and once defenses get a chance to study them and adapt they tail off like this, if they can't adapt to a bigger playbook and make themselves harder to read.

mrtourette · 09-01-2014, 07:29 AM

Replacing Matt Schaub probably makes you look better than you actually are.

BillJasper · 09-01-2014, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mrtourette

Replacing Matt Schaub probably makes you look better than you actually are.

+1

Arles · 09-01-2014, 10:48 AM

Michael Sam won't be signed to Rams practice squad - SBNation.com

Doesn't look like the Rams will add Sam to their practice squad. I wonder how many drafted players didn't end up on a roster or practice squad? There can't be that many.

I've seen a few stories that basically infer that Sam go the "Tebow treatment" in that he's better than a lot of guys on the practice squad on different teams, but when the publicity of signing him is taken into account - it's just not worth the headache.

BillJasper · 09-01-2014, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Arles

Michael Sam won't be signed to Rams practice squad - SBNation.com

Doesn't look like the Rams will add Sam to their practice squad. I wonder how many drafted players didn't end up on a roster or practice squad? There can't be that many.

I've seen a few stories that basically infer that Sam go the "Tebow treatment" in that he's better than a lot of guys on the practice squad on different teams, but when the publicity of signing him is taken into account - it's just not worth the headache.

He may have to go to Canada to prove himself.

BillJasper · 09-01-2014, 06:05 PM

Might as well cut Schaub before week one so they don't have to pay him!

Report: Raiders tab Derek Carr as starting quarterback | ProFootballTalk

Vince, Pt. II · 09-01-2014, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

My understanding is that many young QBs have a strong first couple of games because there isn't much film on them, and once defenses get a chance to study them and adapt they tail off like this, if they can't adapt to a bigger playbook and make themselves harder to read.

Like rookies in baseball too. Or pitchers going through the order for the second and third time.

Julio Riddols · 09-02-2014, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Rams ought to grab up Keenum.

Adam Schefter on Twitter: Rams claimed QB Case Keenum on waivers, per team official. Rams spent a lot time researching Keenum past 24 hours.

Horn=tooted

Thomkal · 09-02-2014, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Adam Schefter on Twitter: Rams claimed QB Case Keenum on waivers, per team official. Rams spent a lot time researching Keenum past 24 hours.

Horn=tooted

I think this was a good move by the Rams-he has the most potential of the free agent QB's out there(that I can think of) and who knows with the right coaches/offense could develop into a decent QB. If it doesn't work there's the draft and/or trading/signing a better one in free agency next year.

BillJasper · 09-02-2014, 04:14 PM

Looks like Sam to Cowboys practice squad:

Cowboys plan to add Michael Sam to practice squad | ProFootballTalk

Arles · 09-02-2014, 04:20 PM

Cool news. Hope Sam makes it with Dallas - can't think of a better defense for him to get time with

BillJasper · 09-02-2014, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Arles

Cool news. Hope Sam makes it with Dallas - can't think of a better defense for him to get time with

They definitely need the help.

NobodyHere · 09-02-2014, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Looks like Sam to Cowboys practice squad:

Cowboys plan to add Michael Sam to practice squad | ProFootballTalk

There's a Brokeback Mountain joke around here somewhere.

NobodyHere · 09-02-2014, 04:31 PM

NFL bans Jim Irsay of Indianapolis Colts six games, fines him $500K - ESPN

Pretty heavy punishment IMO. Then again I'm a Colts fan.

08-29-2014, 07:00 PM	#2451
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	They should do a sitcom after they retire called Manning Up - about the life of a couple former QB's post retirement.. Like a football tinged Seinfeld. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

08-29-2014, 08:17 PM	#2455
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Waits patiently for Sun Tzu's meltdown... __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

08-30-2014, 07:28 AM	#2457
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	I fully expect the Raiders to throw Derek Carr to the wolves. It's a shame when a QB is taken by a team with a coach and GM that have to win. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

08-30-2014, 11:37 AM	#2458
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Two thoughts... How dysfunctional are things in Dallas when Kyle Orton would rather play in Buffalo? Inside the NFL is now on the NFL Network. Isn't that kind of repetitive since the whole network is about the inside of the NFL? __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

08-30-2014, 03:18 PM	#2467
Matthean Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008	Sam got cut. __________________ Board games: Bringing people back to the original social network, the table.

08-29-2014, 07:17 PM	#2452
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Aldon Smith gets a 9 game suspension, Vikings WR Simpson gets 3. San Francisco 49ers linebacker Aldon Smith gets nine-game suspension \| Shutdown Corner - Yahoo Sports Vikings WR Simpson gets 3-game suspension by NFL - Yahoo Sports

08-29-2014, 07:58 PM	#2453
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Dude made a bomb threat at an airport? He's lucky he's a fucking NFL player or he'd be facing federal charges. He ought to thank his lucky stars he got JUST 9 games.

08-30-2014, 12:16 PM	#2459
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	What sense does this make for the Bills? Manuel might not be the answer. But what does Kyle-Orton-without-training-camp really give you? Does he make you a playoff team? I like Kyle Orton. I think that he's either a slightly under-qualified starter or a slightly over-qualified backup. But if he's your play, he has to be the play from the beginning of camp. He can't just come in at the end to ruin your young QB's confidence.

08-30-2014, 12:40 PM	#2461
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	So without attempting to open the can of worms on the fairness of the Aldon Smith suspension, how does this response affect player reaction moving forward? Last season, Smith "voluntarily" checked into a rehab program and missed five games. The NFL has stated that this held no bearing in their deliberation over the length of his subsequent suspension. I think we can all safely say that the rehab check-in was PROBABLY no more than lip service to attempt to reduce the suspension. Moving forward however, I think it's fair to assume that a player in similar circumstances will NEVER do that again, since the league will not consider it. Regardless of the right or wrong of the decision by the NFL to disregard that when determining the length of suspension, isn't it a loss as a whole to dissuade players from taking necessary, proactive steps to combat this sort of thing in the future?

08-30-2014, 02:35 PM	#2466
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	James Harrison announced his retirement today, interestingly enough after not being able to agree to a deal with my beloved Cardinals. Former Steelers Super Bowl hero James Harrison announces retirement \| Shutdown Corner - Yahoo Sports Also last round of roster cuts today-so report any interesting/surprising ones here. No real surprises for the Cards. Jets cut former 2nd round WR Stephen Hill...would not surprise me if Carolina gives him a try given their woeful WR core

08-30-2014, 08:33 PM	#2471
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	He looked pretty good in the highlight reels I saw. Not sure about the rest of the story so far though. Still, you take a flier in the 7th round, now give him some time and see what he develops into.

08-30-2014, 08:42 PM	#2472
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	If Sam contributed on special teams he probably would not have got cut . He'll probably latch on with a team that had less defensive line depth than the rams

08-30-2014, 10:22 PM	#2473
Warhammer Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Dayton, OH	Yeah, Ethan Westbrooks has looked even better than Sam and he was primarily up against 1st and 2nd stringers vs. Sam's 2nd and 3rd string. That said many of the Rams boards I frequent were unhappy that we let Sam go. They were hoping one of the other vets on the line would be let go rather than Sam.

08-31-2014, 11:22 AM	#2474
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	49ers are having a rough off-season: Report: Ray McDonald arrested for domestic violence \| ProFootballTalk Sam went unclaimed and can now sign with the Rams practice squad. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

08-31-2014, 01:26 PM	#2475
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Ryan Mallett traded to the Texans for surprisingly just a sixth rounder. Case Keenum released to make room for him.

08-31-2014, 06:31 PM	#2482
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Rams ought to grab up Keenum. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

08-31-2014, 06:45 PM	#2484
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Chiefs resign Alex Smith. 4 years/68 million with 45 million guaranteed. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

08-31-2014, 08:40 PM	#2485
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	I thought Keenum looked pretty good in his time under center last year. I guess the way he tailed off after a strong first few games kinda made the Texans sour on him. Thought he would make a solid backup and maybe eventual starter in a play action down field passing scheme. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

09-01-2014, 07:29 AM	#2488
mrtourette High School JV Join Date: Dec 2013	Replacing Matt Schaub probably makes you look better than you actually are.

09-01-2014, 10:48 AM	#2490
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Michael Sam won't be signed to Rams practice squad - SBNation.com Doesn't look like the Rams will add Sam to their practice squad. I wonder how many drafted players didn't end up on a roster or practice squad? There can't be that many. I've seen a few stories that basically infer that Sam go the "Tebow treatment" in that he's better than a lot of guys on the practice squad on different teams, but when the publicity of signing him is taken into account - it's just not worth the headache. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

09-01-2014, 06:05 PM	#2492
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Might as well cut Schaub before week one so they don't have to pay him! Report: Raiders tab Derek Carr as starting quarterback \| ProFootballTalk __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

09-02-2014, 04:14 PM	#2496
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Looks like Sam to Cowboys practice squad: Cowboys plan to add Michael Sam to practice squad \| ProFootballTalk __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

09-02-2014, 04:20 PM	#2497
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09-02-2014, 04:31 PM	#2500
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