NFL Regular Season Thread (Or Duck, Duck, Grey Duck and other Children's Games) - Page 23

weegeebored · 01-07-2018, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

It is going to be an interesting draft with all this perceived QB talent available. One of the richest drafts at that position since '83.

I've not likely seen enough of these QBs in action compared to many here, but if your comparing this draft to the one in '83 the expectations should be for the Blackledge/Eason/O'Brien types, not Elway/Marino/Kelly.

NobodyHere · 01-07-2018, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Kinda hoping Orlando Brown Jr "accidentally" runs over Jeff Tripplette at some point in his career.

Looks like he won't get the chance

Maligned NFL official Jeff Triplette to reportedly retire

NobodyHere · 01-07-2018, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by weegeebored

I've not likely seen enough of these QBs in action compared to many here, but if your comparing this draft to the one in '83 the expectations should be for the Blackledge/Eason/O'Brien types, not Elway/Marino/Kelly.

Hopefully the first two picks go QB so the Colts can get whoever they want (or trade).

BishopMVP · 01-08-2018, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Mayfield though, nobody will ever convince me he is a bust except him. He has had too much success coming out of nowhere and too much of a chip on his shoulder and love for the game to be another Manziel, and he has been the best QB in college football for at least 2 years, maybe 3 now. Consistently improved year over year too, even this year he was better than last season, which was (at the time) the best season a QB has ever had in college. He has been a 4 year starter, He completes about 70% of his passes, and he averages about 10 yards per attempt for his career. There is nothing that indicates he could be a bust to me. His attitude being a problem strikes me as an outside observation based on Manziel's flame out, and seems very short sighted when both players body of work and pedigree is considered.

I'd be stoked if he was drafted to my team.

While I did see a picture of him drinking a beer at a basketball game after Oklahoma lost, he also doesn't appear to be an alcoholic coke fiend, so that's an advantage over Manziel. (I also don't think any of the Oklahoma WR's compare to Mike Evans... a sizable part of Manziel's success in those Alabama games were Evans and others just winning jump balls Manziel would lob into coverage.)

cartman · 01-08-2018, 11:34 AM

Bears name the Chiefs OC Matt Nagy as their new head coach.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/...ead-coach/amp/

Coffee Warlord · 01-08-2018, 12:26 PM

He was cheap?

weegeebored · 01-08-2018, 06:15 PM

Ryan Pace doing his...ahem...due diligence. He had how many people in for interviews? Six?

Suicane75 · 01-09-2018, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

It is going to be an interesting draft with all this perceived QB talent available. One of the richest drafts at that position since '83.

No, no, no. There's barely even a starter in this draft class.

Logan · 01-09-2018, 01:38 PM

Spotted on Twitter yesterday, anyone want to guess who has the largest direct head coaching tree in the NFL now, with about 25% of the league under (and including) him?

cuervo72 · 01-09-2018, 01:41 PM

Does 25% of the league not know how to manage a game clock?

albionmoonlight · 01-09-2018, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Spotted on Twitter yesterday, anyone want to guess who has the largest direct head coaching tree in the NFL now, with about 25% of the league under (and including) him?

Fun question.

I'll guess Marvin Lewis simply through being around so long and running a good organization.

Butter · 01-09-2018, 01:48 PM

I would guess Andy Reid.

sabotai · 01-09-2018, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Does 25% of the league not know how to manage a game clock?

Very warm!

B & B · 01-10-2018, 06:44 AM

so logan asks the Q and sabotai knows the answer?

hmm

Ill guess petey carroll

corbes · 01-10-2018, 07:45 AM

Reid.

McDermott, Pederson, Nagy, Bowles, Harbaugh, Rivera (?), ... is there another?

Logan · 01-10-2018, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by corbes

Reid.

McDermott, Pederson, Nagy, Bowles, Harbaugh, Rivera (?), ... is there another?

You got em. And add Shurmur if he gets a job.

Logan · 01-10-2018, 08:08 AM

And BTW I phrased it as "direct" because Reid comes from Holmgren, who comes from Walsh.

BishopMVP · 01-10-2018, 01:44 PM

I do find it a little amusing McDermott is considered part of Reid's tree since firing him & replacing him with an offensive line coach was a big part of why Reid was pushed out in Philadelphia.

NobodyHere · 01-10-2018, 02:05 PM

There's been some speculation that the Colts secretly interviewed a college head coach for their own HC vacancy.

Logan · 01-10-2018, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

There's been some speculation that the Colts secretly interviewed a college head coach for their own HC vacancy.

Maybe one that had some hands-on experience with their QB who needs to resurrect his career?

Drake · 01-10-2018, 02:15 PM

Loved him as Captain Comeback. Not sure I want him as the coach.

Don't get me wrong: I like his talent. It's just his demeanor and energy that makes me want to punch him.

Kodos · 01-10-2018, 02:24 PM

He's probably a guy that you hate if on another team but love if he is on yours.

NobodyHere · 01-10-2018, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

He's probably a guy that you hate if on another team but love if he is on yours.

I'm sure Ohio State fans are lovin' the way he's handled Michigan so far.

CU Tiger · 01-10-2018, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

While I did see a picture of him drinking a beer at a basketball game after Oklahoma lost, he also doesn't appear to be an alcoholic coke fiend, so that's an advantage over Manziel.

Not sure if serious or sarcasm.
Mayfield has had numerous alcohol "incidents" and Mayfield has a quite popular cocaine habit.

Everyone just wants to forget the circumstances around him leaving Lubbock but dig in it aint pretty.

He has a nice compact release, but he's 5'11 and has short arms for his height. It will be a problem.

I love the walk on story, hope he proves me wrong, but I see more Jemarcus Russel than I do Russel Wilson

stevew · 01-10-2018, 06:33 PM

Regardless of how badly the Browns need a QB, I feel like their best move is probably to cut a deal with Denver. Browns would have the 4th and 5th picks. Denver can take Rosen. Browns get maybe the Broncos first this year, a 3rd this year and 2 more #1s and another second. Something like that.

NobodyHere · 01-10-2018, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Regardless of how badly the Browns need a QB, I feel like their best move is probably to cut a deal with Denver. Browns would have the 4th and 5th picks. Denver can take Rosen. Browns get maybe the Broncos first this year, a 3rd this year and 2 more #1s and another second. Something like that.

Kevin Costner likes this

NobodyHere · 01-10-2018, 09:21 PM

Report: Colts interview Baylor coach Matt Rhule – ProFootballTalk

If True: Da hell? It's like we're trying to out-Cleveland the Browns or something.

MrBug708 · 01-11-2018, 09:19 AM

Mark Helfrich to be OC for the bears

Julio Riddols · 01-11-2018, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Not sure if serious or sarcasm.
Mayfield has had numerous alcohol "incidents" and Mayfield has a quite popular cocaine habit.

Everyone just wants to forget the circumstances around him leaving Lubbock but dig in it aint pretty.

He has a nice compact release, but he's 5'11 and has short arms for his height. It will be a problem.

I love the walk on story, hope he proves me wrong, but I see more Jemarcus Russel than I do Russel Wilson

Got any links? I'm having a hard time believing this because there is nothing readily available except quotes about how Mayfield is Manziel without the coke habit.

CU Tiger · 01-11-2018, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Got any links? I'm having a hard time believing this because there is nothing readily available except quotes about how Mayfield is Manziel without the coke habit.

Lets just let it play out...

I'll be happy to be proven wrong even though I despise the guy.

BishopMVP · 01-11-2018, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

There's been some speculation that the Colts secretly interviewed a college head coach for their own HC vacancy.

I've also seen the New York media say that Bill Belichick and Nick Saban were going to the Giants...

Logan · 01-11-2018, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

I've also seen the New York media say that Bill Belichick and Nick Saban were going to the Giants...

Link?

BishopMVP · 01-11-2018, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Link?

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...icle-1.3739643

https://nypost.com/2018/01/09/longti...giants-rumors/

This wasn't to throw the NY media under the bus, they just used headlines to get clicks and seemed smart enough to know neither was actually real, but to say that anonymous speculation about secret interviews isn't worth buying into.

Logan · 01-11-2018, 02:59 PM

Oh so it wasn't actually anything close to what you said. Got it. Unless Bruce Arians became a member of the NY media, of course. You also just happened to find a NY-related paper to link and not every other media outlet which reported Arians' comments.

BishopMVP · 01-11-2018, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Oh so it wasn't actually anything close to what you said. Got it. Unless Bruce Arians became a member of the NY media, of course. You also just happened to find a NY-related paper to link and not every other media outlet which reported Arians' comments.

Apologies for saying New York media instead of just media? Idk, my point was that I think "Harbaugh secretly interviewing for the Colts" rumors have the same validity.

cartman · 01-15-2018, 09:06 AM

Mike Mularkey is out as the Titans head coach.

Thomkal · 01-15-2018, 10:17 AM

Guess that win didn't save his job after all.

miami_fan · 01-15-2018, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Got to an interesting argument with a friend of mine (which got waaaaay out of hand, due to my friend's overreaction) regarding the Falcons and Saints game on Sunday. He referred to it as the most bitter and hated rivalry in professional sports, which I pushed back on big time (not even the most bitter and hated in the NFL!). He started name calling and being bitterly sarcastic towards me (I am weighing him being an ex-friend).

So the result being I am totally ok with the Saints winning on Sunday

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NobodyHere · 01-15-2018, 11:52 AM

So in Tennessee losing a playoff game gets you fired. In Cleveland you get retained after going 1-31. Makes sense.

BishopMVP · 01-15-2018, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Guess that win didn't save his job after all.

Sounds like they told him he was their guy and offered him an extension before the game, then fired him the next morning with speculation being that they think McDaniels will take the job? Idk, but that's definitely a better spot for McDaniels (or any hot name) to go - better GM, better talent around the QB, much much much better owner.

Looks like Pat Shurmur to the Giants is also all but a done deal and just waiting on the Vikings playoff run to end.

NobodyHere · 01-15-2018, 04:01 PM

Looks like the Colts are trying to nab McDaniels ASAP

Colts expected to hire Josh McDaniels as head coach - NFL.com

Thomkal · 01-19-2018, 01:37 PM

Well its never to early for a mock draft, is it?

I think whomever the Cards end up with as head coach will be pretty telling as to who they go for in the first round-If they get Shurmur or Philly's Offensive Coordinator, I think they are trading up from 15 to get one of the QB's. If they go with a defensive coach, I think they will go with whomever they can get in free agency now that Carson Palmer has retired (thank the football Gods!) at QB, and go defense in the first round.

Jeremiah mock draft 1.0: Browns, Jets, Fins, Redskins take QB - NFL.com

NobodyHere · 01-19-2018, 05:36 PM

https://www.chatsports.com/nfl/a/her...ck-draft-37039

Then again he picked me ahead of Peyton too, just sayin!!
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Carman Bulldog · 01-19-2018, 05:48 PM

I am a big fan of Greg Cosell and am looking forward to his breakdowns on these quarterbacks. Cosell generally values accuracy and in fact has described it as the "most overlooked characteristic when discussing quarterbacks." It will be interesting to see what Coselll has to say about Allen but I can't imagine that it is favourable.

Thomkal · 01-20-2018, 02:41 PM

Kirk Cousins former GM at Washington still throwing shade on him:

Ex-Redskins GM on Kirk Cousins: 'I don't see special' - NFL.com

miami_fan · 01-20-2018, 08:07 PM

So the offensive genius that is going to develop Mariota is.. Mike Vrabel?

Okie dokie.

NobodyHere · 01-20-2018, 08:24 PM

Vrabel seems to have been a pretty hot name this year.

bhlloy · 01-20-2018, 08:54 PM

Seems like that's probably been the plan for quite a while, given that they canned Mularkey after a season in which they were further ahead in the process than everyone thought they would be

Galaril · 01-20-2018, 10:07 PM

The Vrabel hire is a strong one. Everyone expects them to bring in a young offensive coordinator to help Mariota get to the next level. The Titans GM came from the Patriots organization and had first hand experience with Vrabel so that may b worth something. I guess time will tell.

Julio Riddols · 01-20-2018, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

The Vrabel hire is a strong one. Everyone expects them to inebriated in a young offensive coordinator to help Mariota get to the next level. The Tirana GM came from the Patriots organization and had first hand experience with Vrabel.

Was wondering if you almost said "Bring in an inebriated young offensive coordinator" and I was like "Sarkisian?" but then realized how off the rails auto correct can go and somehow it turned bring into inebriated.

01-08-2018, 11:34 AM	#1105
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Bears name the Chiefs OC Matt Nagy as their new head coach. https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/...ead-coach/amp/ __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

01-09-2018, 01:38 PM	#1109
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Spotted on Twitter yesterday, anyone want to guess who has the largest direct head coaching tree in the NFL now, with about 25% of the league under (and including) him? Last edited by Logan : 01-09-2018 at 01:38 PM.

01-09-2018, 01:41 PM	#1110
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Does 25% of the league not know how to manage a game clock? __________________ null

01-09-2018, 01:48 PM	#1112
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	I would guess Andy Reid. __________________ My listening habits

01-10-2018, 06:44 AM	#1114
B & B College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: A sports era long ago when everything didnt require a Nike logo	so logan asks the Q and sabotai knows the answer? hmm Ill guess petey carroll __________________ Nobody cares about Kyle Orton because he's black. -PT

01-08-2018, 12:26 PM	#1106
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	He was cheap?

01-08-2018, 06:15 PM	#1107
weegeebored High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2006	Ryan Pace doing his...ahem...due diligence. He had how many people in for interviews? Six?

01-10-2018, 07:45 AM	#1115
corbes College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	Reid. McDermott, Pederson, Nagy, Bowles, Harbaugh, Rivera (?), ... is there another?

01-10-2018, 08:08 AM	#1117
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	And BTW I phrased it as "direct" because Reid comes from Holmgren, who comes from Walsh.

01-10-2018, 01:44 PM	#1118
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	I do find it a little amusing McDermott is considered part of Reid's tree since firing him & replacing him with an offensive line coach was a big part of why Reid was pushed out in Philadelphia.

01-10-2018, 02:05 PM	#1119
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	There's been some speculation that the Colts secretly interviewed a college head coach for their own HC vacancy. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

01-10-2018, 02:15 PM	#1121
Drake assmaster Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bloomington, IN	Loved him as Captain Comeback. Not sure I want him as the coach. Don't get me wrong: I like his talent. It's just his demeanor and energy that makes me want to punch him.

01-10-2018, 02:24 PM	#1122
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	He's probably a guy that you hate if on another team but love if he is on yours. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

01-10-2018, 06:33 PM	#1125
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Regardless of how badly the Browns need a QB, I feel like their best move is probably to cut a deal with Denver. Browns would have the 4th and 5th picks. Denver can take Rosen. Browns get maybe the Broncos first this year, a 3rd this year and 2 more #1s and another second. Something like that.

01-10-2018, 09:21 PM	#1127
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Report: Colts interview Baylor coach Matt Rhule – ProFootballTalk If True: Da hell? It's like we're trying to out-Cleveland the Browns or something. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

01-11-2018, 09:19 AM	#1128
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Mark Helfrich to be OC for the bears

01-11-2018, 02:59 PM	#1134
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Oh so it wasn't actually anything close to what you said. Got it. Unless Bruce Arians became a member of the NY media, of course. You also just happened to find a NY-related paper to link and not every other media outlet which reported Arians' comments. Last edited by Logan : 01-11-2018 at 03:01 PM.

01-15-2018, 09:06 AM	#1136
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Mike Mularkey is out as the Titans head coach. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

01-15-2018, 10:17 AM	#1137
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Guess that win didn't save his job after all. __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

01-15-2018, 11:52 AM	#1139
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	So in Tennessee losing a playoff game gets you fired. In Cleveland you get retained after going 1-31. Makes sense. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

01-15-2018, 04:01 PM	#1141
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Looks like the Colts are trying to nab McDaniels ASAP Colts expected to hire Josh McDaniels as head coach - NFL.com __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

01-19-2018, 01:37 PM	#1142
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Well its never to early for a mock draft, is it? I think whomever the Cards end up with as head coach will be pretty telling as to who they go for in the first round-If they get Shurmur or Philly's Offensive Coordinator, I think they are trading up from 15 to get one of the QB's. If they go with a defensive coach, I think they will go with whomever they can get in free agency now that Carson Palmer has retired (thank the football Gods!) at QB, and go defense in the first round. Jeremiah mock draft 1.0: Browns, Jets, Fins, Redskins take QB - NFL.com __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

01-19-2018, 05:36 PM	#1143
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	https://www.chatsports.com/nfl/a/her...ck-draft-37039 Then again he picked me ahead of Peyton too, just sayin!! — Ryan D Leaf (@RyanDLeaf) January 18, 2018 __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney" Last edited by NobodyHere : 01-19-2018 at 05:38 PM.

01-19-2018, 05:48 PM	#1144
Carman Bulldog College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada	I am a big fan of Greg Cosell and am looking forward to his breakdowns on these quarterbacks. Cosell generally values accuracy and in fact has described it as the "most overlooked characteristic when discussing quarterbacks." It will be interesting to see what Coselll has to say about Allen but I can't imagine that it is favourable.

01-20-2018, 02:41 PM	#1145
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Kirk Cousins former GM at Washington still throwing shade on him: Ex-Redskins GM on Kirk Cousins: 'I don't see special' - NFL.com __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

01-20-2018, 08:07 PM	#1146
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	So the offensive genius that is going to develop Mariota is.. Mike Vrabel? Okie dokie. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

01-20-2018, 08:24 PM	#1147
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Vrabel seems to have been a pretty hot name this year. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

01-20-2018, 08:54 PM	#1148
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Seems like that's probably been the plan for quite a while, given that they canned Mularkey after a season in which they were further ahead in the process than everyone thought they would be

01-20-2018, 10:07 PM	#1149
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	The Vrabel hire is a strong one. Everyone expects them to bring in a young offensive coordinator to help Mariota get to the next level. The Titans GM came from the Patriots organization and had first hand experience with Vrabel so that may b worth something. I guess time will tell. Last edited by Galaril : 01-20-2018 at 11:25 PM.

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