09-30-2014, 10:34 PM | #101 |
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Wasn't it the MythBusters that showed the places with the most bacteria in your house were the kitchen sink and computer keyboard? The toilet seat was one of places with the least bacteria.
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09-30-2014, 10:39 PM | #102 |
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10-01-2014, 11:39 AM | #103 |
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I swear I got crabs once from a public toilet seat. I was in the middle of a six month dry stretch sexually so know that wasn't the reason.
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10-01-2014, 02:50 PM | #104 |
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Wash yo hands, DFW!
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10-01-2014, 03:00 PM | #105 | |
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Yeah, here's the results of the Mythbusters testing:
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10-01-2014, 03:31 PM | #106 |
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That does it. I am never handling money again.
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10-01-2014, 03:36 PM | #107 |
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I always wanted to barf when I would see one of my servers putting money into their mouth while trying to count change/get organized/etc. SO disgusting.
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10-01-2014, 03:44 PM | #108 | |
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I think that what is different about Ebola is that it is possible to get it from sweat. Most often you hear of diseases that are spread from fluids and you can not get it from sweat (think HIV / AIDs here). Ebola isn't like that. You can get it from simply touching someone. It requires you have a break of skin on your hands and they be sweating, both of which are likely. The Ebola patient will likely be running a fever and nearly everyone has a skin break, somewhere, on their hands.
I still don't think it is going to be an epidemic in the US, but it isn't like this requires contact with body fluids in the way MOST people think of diseases spread by body fluids. EDIT: Also, according to the CDC, it CAN survive outside the body for several hours on things that have come into contact with body fluids. This can include door knobs and anything that has touched urine. Still would't panic.
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10-01-2014, 04:06 PM | #109 |
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10-01-2014, 05:10 PM | #110 |
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My wife travels for a living. When she gets in a hotel room she:
Tosses the comforter or whatever they put on the bed to the side along with the throw pillows. She then takes out some clorox or similar wipes and wipes down the phone, remote, doorknobs, safe (if she uses it) and more. You know that guy you see in the bathroom that's taking a loud nasty shit and then doesn't wash his hands? Yeah, he does that in hotel rooms as well and doesn't wash his hands there either.
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10-01-2014, 05:15 PM | #111 |
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If Ebola could be spread by routine hygiene lapses it'd be far more widespread.
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10-01-2014, 06:22 PM | #112 |
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I was not referring to Ebola, but I'd be willing to bet some pretty nasty stuff is spread through hotel rooms and airplanes.
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10-01-2014, 06:26 PM | #113 |
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Does being a germaphobe really prevent you from getting sick or picking up viruses? I've always figured it just weakens your immune system.
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I agree with above post. Sooner or later there will be an outbreak.
Ebola can be transmitted "airborne". Maybe not in the truest definition of the term but better hope no one infected coughs near you. BBC News - Growing concerns over 'in the air' transmission of Ebola Quote:
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10-02-2014, 03:08 PM | #115 |
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The Onion with a helpful PSA on how to protect yourself from ebola.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/how...t-ebola,37085/
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10-02-2014, 08:15 PM | #116 |
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Just had a awful thought. This would be a pretty scary terror tactic - have someone(s) relatively unknown, voluntarily infect themselves and slip into the country.
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10-02-2014, 08:40 PM | #117 | |
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Don't know how he got it but you would think someone that flew to Liberia to report on Ebola (and working for NBC) would have adequately protected himself.
NBC News freelancer in Africa diagnosed with Ebola | MSNBC Quote:
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10-02-2014, 08:42 PM | #118 |
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10-02-2014, 08:47 PM | #119 |
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Some could just shoot two people, that would double the impact of Ebloa in the U.S.
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The above BBC post says that it was transmitted that way by pigs to macaques, and only for a few feet, based on how their respiratory system works. Quote:
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10-02-2014, 09:09 PM | #122 |
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The most absurd thing to me is that the guy in Dallas apparently lied on his immigration form or exit form or whatever it was.
What's it going to take to impose mandatory quarantines?? Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 10-02-2014 at 09:22 PM. |
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Takes 2-21 days for symptoms to show? You going to hold someone for 3 weeks? |
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10-02-2014, 09:47 PM | #126 |
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Needle was what came to mind first. A terrorist could do some damage in a crowded area (for a short period of time before being subdued). Not sure how long bodily fluids (e.g. saliva) would stay infectious on food but getting some in the Delta SkyClub olives and mushrooms (my favorites ... or anywhere else with a buffet) would be my fear. I think there are multitudes of options to spread this. |
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And unless those people started poking others with needles, or biting people, or had massive amounts of unprotected sex it would stop right there. |
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The infected healthcare workers probably didn't do any of the 3 either. Healthcare workers notwithstanding, it didn't stop right there in western Africa, kids are getting it. The story is not yet told on how this infection has grown beyond historical norms. I don't know but I suspect a little bit of short distance sneeze/cough, tainted food and normal human contact such as hugs and kisses. |
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10-02-2014, 10:41 PM | #131 |
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I think people scared of one guy in Texas with Ebola (and the people in the first two pages of this thread who were scared that the U.S. was transporting those doctors to the U.S.) would be pretty freaked out if they had heard of all the various viruses and bacteria that are floating around our own country right now:
http://www.cdc.gov/outbreaks/index.html And if you travel, forget about it: Disease Directory | Travelers' Health | CDC There isn't a vaccine for everything, washing your hands doesn't guarantee your safety, you could be a victim tomorrow! It's also about a thousand times more likely you'll die in a car accident tomorrow, but nobody thinks about that. Edit: I didn't realize 1,000–2,500 people still get the plague every year. Last edited by molson : 10-02-2014 at 10:44 PM. |
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Healthcare workers in African clinics are absolutely getting exposed to bodily fluids. Hell, the average ER worker here is as well. Precautions are taken, but after a thousand or so contacts, a small risk emerges. Last edited by molson : 10-02-2014 at 10:42 PM. |
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Reread Lathum's 3 scenarios. Exposed to bodily fluids is not one of the 3. But I do agree with you. Last edited by Edward64 : 10-02-2014 at 10:45 PM. |
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It's not airborne. Efficient diseases like this don't just magically become airborne. There is no historical precedent for it to happen. This should calm some fears.
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My above post referenced the article in your link. How I read it is that it can be spread by air, albeit short distances. It may not fit the scientific definition of "airborne" but via air means airborne to me. I did not know it did not spread monkey-to-monkey but monkey-to-pig so I'll concede that airborne transmission may not be as simple as sneezing on someone. Quote:
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That's the whole issue. There isn't a government or medical infrastructure to do that. In the U.S. there is. We'll be fine.
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The vast majority of infectious disease specialists say it would be highly unusual to shift to airborne. It's technically possible, but unlikely. Unlikely as in never documented a viral outbreak doing so in history.
And the one study that keeps getting posted in the media and on social media to drum up intrigue was essentially shot down by the same team of scientists during a follow-up study. Conveniently no one wants to post that study. This hysteria over it becoming airborne is as dumb as the hysteria over HIV becoming airborne in the 90's. Ebola is not new, it's been around for a long time. And those who have researched it have said that it actually remains fairly consistent. This is just the media latching on to a story that gets them clicks and people eating it up. |
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There may be a second case now...In DC (scroll down a bit for the info on that)
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10-04-2014, 08:47 PM | #146 |
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Surprised no one has mentioned this incident today:
CDC responds to sick passenger on Brussels flight - CNN.com That had to have been pretty scary for the passengers on board, especially the guy sitting next to him. |
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Almost all of the additional reported cases of Ebola symptoms (the ones above and many others that haven't made the news)...have ended up being symptoms of Malaria...
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10-06-2014, 04:17 PM | #149 |
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I am patient zero.
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10-08-2014, 11:46 AM | #150 |
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There are now no patients diagnosed with ebola in Dallas.
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