2014-15 NFL Offseason Thread (Non Draft Edition)

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

If you're trying to decide between Mark Sanchez and Tim Tebow for your roster, you're probably in a bad situation. But you have to take Sanchez. Yes, he'll throw some interceptions that leave you scratching your head. But he'll also make a lot of plays for you and he can get into a rhythm. When he's on, he can compete with the better defenses. There's also the argument that most of his career has been with quarterback-killer Rex Ryan (the same argument means Geno Smith is still employed). Sanchez is, at this point, probably an OK NFL backup.

Tebow, on the other hand, simply isn't accurate enough to be on an NFL roster. He makes terrible decisions. And he brings bajillions of fans who lose all objectivity when he's concerned, so you're always under pressure to start him.

Well said. When he is on, Sanchez can have a 300 yard passing game. Tebow is never going to have a 300 yard passing game. Tebow missed a WIDE open guy in the end zone last night and instead tried to run it in (and failed.) I'd much rather have Sanchez as a backup QB.

[Kodos]

Yeah, if I have to start Sanchez or Tebow, I'm taking Sanchez.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Yeah, if I have to start Sanchez or Tebow, I'm taking Sanchez.

Easily..

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Yeah, if I have to start Sanchez or Tebow, I'm taking Sanchez.

if the bengals had to start either of them, im taking the year off football.

[stevew]

Pouncey hurt, steelers looking good in preseason

[Groundhog]

Rugby convert Jarryd Hayne continues to do pretty darn well in the preseason for a guy who's never played American football before. 3 punt returns for 84 yards (34 longest), and picks up 34 yards on his first rush of the day out of the HB position, and has 54 yards on 8 attempts.

His rugby stiff-arm is no joke - he's taking out the first defender on a lot of his plays, especially against defensive backs.

[Dutch]

Mariotta looked pretty solid tonight.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

Rugby convert Jarryd Hayne continues to do pretty darn well in the preseason for a guy who's never played American football before. 3 punt returns for 84 yards (34 longest), and picks up 34 yards on his first rush of the day out of the HB position, and has 54 yards on 8 attempts.

His rugby stiff-arm is no joke - he's taking out the first defender on a lot of his plays, especially against defensive backs.

I'm a passenger on the Hayne plane. That over the shoulder catch on that punt was amazing, then he follows it up with a 27 yard return.. Busts a 34 yarder later, then another 20 yarder.. Then breaks another 30 plus yard run. He has legit vision and solid speed, good hands, and he breaks tackles like a poor man's Marshawn Lynch. I have been arguing with some dude on Reddit about him vs. T-Rich, and this guy is sticking to his guns, but I say Hayne is more upside in his little finger than Richardson does. I'd take him on as a punt returner right now, and groom him to get some real touches next season. The guy is legitimately good in space and has solid enough vision and size/strength to make a strong case for starting in this league once he learns the nuances.

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Mariotta looked pretty solid tonight.

I think he is going to be good. Not sure how good yet, but a much higher floor than Winston. Mariota is the best QB prospect the Titans have had since McNair.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

His instincts don't seem solid. A lot has been made of that play right before the TMW yesterday - he has a receiver so wide open in the end zone that you or I could make that throw every time. Yet he takes on all these linebackers and gets hammered at the 1. I don't think he can adjust to what he sees out there the way an NFL quarterback needs to adjust.

[Kodos]

Wow. You weren't joking about it being a throw you or I could hit.

[Dutch]

Like the Trent Richardson still pic, I'd rather see the play.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Like the Trent Richardson still pic, I'd rather see the play.

We're not allowed to post torture porn.

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

I think he is going to be good. Not sure how good yet, but a much higher floor than Winston. Mariota is the best QB prospect the Titans have had since McNair.

I'm really hoping Mariota can have a Steve Young-type of career.

[lungs]

Originally Posted by Logan

Why is that guy not out front of Tebow blocking? Tebow scores easily if he just has a little blocking help from his teammates.

[jeff061]

Because he was running a route?

[HomerSimpson98]

Originally Posted by SegRat

Jordy Nelson tore his ACL.

Anyone else's fantasy team now in the shitter? AAAAARRRGGHGHGHGHGH

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Like the Trent Richardson still pic, I'd rather see the play.

Originally Posted by Logan

We're not allowed to post torture porn.

Ask and ye shall receive

Trent Richardson might be blind, misses huge hole

[MizzouRah]

How bout dem Rams!

[QuikSand]

Anyone else here get a weird vibe when the thread about real football has a bunch of TEBOWTEBOWTEBOW stuff in it, and at the same time the political stuff about real presidential politics has a TRUMPTRUMPTRUMP current?

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by Logan

He's already tucked the ball to run.

[lungs]

Originally Posted by jeff061

Because he was running a route?

With Tebow at QB the WR should always just cut off the routes and start blocking.

(I'm being sarcastic here)

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

Anyone else here get a weird vibe when the thread about real football has a bunch of TEBOWTEBOWTEBOW stuff in it, and at the same time the political stuff about real presidential politics has a TRUMPTRUMPTRUMP current?

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

We can always talk about BRADYBRADYBRADY and HILLARYHILLARYHILLARY if you want.

[AlexB]

Originally Posted by HomerSimpson98

Anyone else's fantasy team now in the shitter? AAAAARRRGGHGHGHGHGH

Keeper league, deadline was Saturday, let Arian Foster go due to his injury hoping to get him back mid draft... One third of my retained salary was in Jordy Nelson

I now have a collection of #2 and #3 guys with the chance of getting only one, maybe two legit starters out of the draft. Not looking good

[jeff061]

Originally Posted by lungs

With Tebow at QB the WR should always just cut off the routes and start blocking.

(I'm being sarcastic here)

I was hoping for sarcasm, but his mindless supporters are too numerous to make assumptions.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Apparently the Patriots are showing some interest in Reggie Wayne, even giving him a physical.

And a one year deal was signed, pissing off the more immature Colt fanbase who now label Reggie a traitor.

[albionmoonlight]

Falcons and Saints now have the same stadium sponsor--Mercedes-Benz.

Has that ever happened before (where one company had the naming rights to multiple teams in the same league)?

[cartman]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Falcons and Saints now have the same stadium sponsor--Mercedes-Benz.

Has that ever happened before (where one company had the naming rights to multiple teams in the same league)?

American Airlines (Miami Heat and Dallas Mavericks)

[sabotai]

Here's video of the Tebow play

Tim Tebow misses opportunities against Ravens - NFL.com

[Dutch]

Okay, I agree, should've passed it...although, knowing his accuracy issues...I think he did the right thing.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Is there actually bitching about Bradford getting hit? Srsly?

Don't want your QB hit, don't put him in the position to be hit.

I don't even LIKE the Ravens, but the whining about that play is absurd by rule.

[Dutch]

I know how teams used to handle shit like that back in the day. It didn't involve whining, it involved payback.

[bhlloy]

Yeah, maybe choosing a QB with detachable limbs wasn't the best idea for a guy who likes to run the read option?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Yeah, maybe choosing a QB with detachable limbs wasn't the best idea for a guy who likes to run the read option?

But but but "it wasn't a read option". Or at least that's the ridiculous argument a certain head coach tried to sell with a straight face today.

The defense reacts to what they see, they aren't (in theory at least) privvy to the actual play call.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Dutch

I know how teams used to handle shit like that back in the day. It didn't involve whining, it involved payback.

Exactly.As the NFL clans up its game, it may get more dangerous.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Here's Jarryd Hayne, the rugby star that Groundhog was talking about up thread. Some flashes that make you want to see more of him; it'll be interesting to see if he can do more than just return kicks.

[Vince, Pt. II]

Lame, NFL. Lame.

[thesloppy]

I've been interested in Hayne's debut for a long time...except I'm a Lions fan, and he was rumored to be solidly signing with the Lions for weeks, until he suddenly ended up taking the '9ers offer. So, of course I've swung from wanting him to succeed to wanting him to suuuuuuuuuck.

[bhlloy]

Andy Dalton gon' Andy Dalton

[Groundhog]

In Rugby Hayne was always great in open space, but there's only so many of those opportunities that you get per game, especially with the team he played on not having a lot of great creators (outside of Hayne). The kick return game gets him the ball with a head of steam, so maybe I shouldn't have been so surprised that he would look good, even in preseason. I honestly expected him to not hit the field and be back down in Australia right now working his way back into rugby shape.

They used him as a gunner yesterday and he got first contact on the returner too. It's a shame that the 49ers have so many RBs, but at the same time I don't know what the team grades his non-running HB skills at right now - blocking, route running, etc. Might be that they just aren't at a level that would allow him to see regular season minutes there.

[claphamsa]

Dalton is in mid season form...

[Julio Riddols]

Bengals in prime time form as a team. What does this team do for prime time games that causes them to come out so damned flat every single time?

[Dutch]

Winston looking good in pre-season.

[stevew]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

But but but "it wasn't a read option". Or at least that's the ridiculous argument a certain head coach tried to sell with a straight face today.

The defense reacts to what they see, they aren't (in theory at least) privvy to the actual play call.

Depends if they were playing the Cheatriots...


Ba dum cha

[stevew]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Bengals in prime time form as a team. What does this team do for prime time games that causes them to come out so damned flat every single time?

I dunno, but someone is a serious dumbo if the plan for this year isn't a steady diet of "hand off to Hill, hand off to Hill, toss it up for AJ"

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

I've been interested in Hayne's debut for a long time...except I'm a Lions fan, and he was rumored to be solidly signing with the Lions for weeks, until he suddenly ended up taking the '9ers offer. So, of course I've swung from wanting him to succeed to wanting him to suuuuuuuuuck.

#same

[Vince, Pt. II]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

...I don't know what the team grades his non-running HB skills at right now - blocking, route running, etc. Might be that they just aren't at a level that would allow him to see regular season minutes there.

The 49ers have always valued pass blocking in their halfbacks - the team is definitely going to feel not having Frank Gore back there this season. He's long been one of the best (if not THE best) in the business at staying in to block.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by stevew

I dunno, but someone is a serious dumbo if the plan for this year isn't a steady diet of "hand off to Hill, hand off to Hill, toss it up for AJ"

They've got a ton of weapons if Dalton can use them. Marvin Jones was an emerging star before he got hurt last year and Eifert has been really impressive in last year's camp and again this year.

[Kodos]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Winston looking good in pre-season.

Ahhh, jbmagic will always be with us. Asswhite.

[Honolulu_Blue]

According to Detroit Lions safety, Glover Quin, Jordy Nelson tore his ACL because God meant for it to happen.