Unfrozen Meat

tarcone · 10-06-2014, 08:20 PM

Someone left the deep freeze door open (cracked). The $500 worth of meat in the freezer thawed. Is it safe it close the door and let it refreeze.

Im thinking the door was cracked for 3 or 4 days.

Any help is appreciated.

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding · 10-06-2014, 08:25 PM

If it looks like this, I would let it go

RainMaker · 10-06-2014, 08:45 PM

It's safe to refreeze. But it will likely lose quality. Water is lost during defrosting so the meat will be drier later on when you cook.

Suicane75 · 10-06-2014, 08:45 PM

I'm no Liberace, but that's not meat I would want in my mouth.

Dutch · 10-06-2014, 08:48 PM

Awful news...I'd trade it for a bag of beef jerky.

EagleFan · 10-06-2014, 09:01 PM

Depends on how long it was unfrozen and what temperature it got down to.

tarcone · 10-06-2014, 09:04 PM

I'd say mid 50s for temp and maybe 2 or 3 days.

JonInMiddleGA · 10-06-2014, 09:05 PM

You better fire up the grill I'm afraid.

DaddyTorgo · 10-06-2014, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker

It's safe to refreeze. But it will likely lose quality. Water is lost during defrosting so the meat will be drier later on when you cook.

What!?!?!?

Food Safety 101

"Danger Zone" (40 °F - 140 °F)
Leaving food out too long at room temperature can cause bacteria (such as Staphylococcus aureus, Salmonella Enteritidis, Escherichia coli O157:H7, and Campylobacter) to grow to dangerous levels that can cause illness. Bacteria grow most rapidly in the range of temperatures between 40 °F and 140 °F, doubling in number in as little as 20 minutes. This range of temperatures is often called the "Danger Zone."

Bonegavel · 10-06-2014, 09:23 PM

I had food poisoning once and since then I've played it super safe. Toss it. Food poisoning was the worst I've ever felt next to the flu.

It isn't worth the risk, IMHO.

JPhillips · 10-06-2014, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

I'd say mid 50s for temp and maybe 2 or 3 days.

If it got to that temperature for that long it's undeniably garbage.

Or you could eat it and see if you die. Please keep us informed!

JonInMiddleGA · 10-06-2014, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

Or you could eat it and see if you die. Please keep us informed!

Damn JPh, that sounds like the advice you'd give me

RainMaker · 10-06-2014, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

What!?!?!?

Food Safety 101

"Danger Zone" (40 °F - 140 °F)
Leaving food out too long at room temperature can cause bacteria (such as Staphylococcus aureus, Salmonella Enteritidis, Escherichia coli O157:H7, and Campylobacter) to grow to dangerous levels that can cause illness. Bacteria grow most rapidly in the range of temperatures between 40 °F and 140 °F, doubling in number in as little as 20 minutes. This range of temperatures is often called the "Danger Zone."

I didn't realize it had gotten up to 50 degrees. Thought the freezer had just warmed up enough to cause it to defrost like a refrigerator. If it was out in 50 degree temps for a couple days, it's garbage unfortunately.

NobodyHere · 10-06-2014, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tarcone

Someone left the deep freeze door open (cracked). The $500 worth of meat in the freezer thawed. Is it safe it close the door and let it refreeze.

Im thinking the door was cracked for 3 or 4 days.

Any help is appreciated.

The next time Iowa plays at a rival's stadium, you now have plenty of meat for the rival's tailgating party.*

*I do not approve of actually doing the action listed above.

Toddzilla · 10-06-2014, 11:46 PM

Could be worse. At a fraternity BBQ in college the stupid-ass in charge of the food marinated a bunch of chicken parts in BBQ sauce for a day (refrigerated), cooked the chicken, then served the marinade in bowls to eat with the chicken - yeah, same BBQ sauce that covered raw chicken for 24 hours. Literally every single person that ate chicken that night ended up in the hospital with violent food poisoning, some for a few days.

stevew · 10-07-2014, 01:33 AM

I'd probably temp it but it's likely garbage and top risky to eat. Def wouldn't refreeze. If it's tainted there's no going back.

Lathum · 10-07-2014, 05:59 AM

I had to get Servesafe certified when I worked in corporate restaurant managment. Pretty much thawing and refreezing anything is a bad idea, and when it comes to raw meat you really don't want to mess around.

Would you likely be safe, yes, but not really worth the risk unless you are seriously financialy strapped. IF you de keep it smell it before you cook it and make sure it is all coked well done.

Dutch · 10-07-2014, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Damn JPh, that sounds like the advice you'd give me

Or any 'murican.

JPhillips · 10-07-2014, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Damn JPh, that sounds like the advice you'd give me

Sorry. Really wasn't intended to be nasty.

albionmoonlight · 10-07-2014, 07:57 AM

So sorry about losing $500. But the only thing to do is toss it. Too warm for too long.

PackerFanatic · 10-07-2014, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Could be worse. At a fraternity BBQ in college the stupid-ass in charge of the food marinated a bunch of chicken parts in BBQ sauce for a day (refrigerated), cooked the chicken, then served the marinade in bowls to eat with the chicken - yeah, same BBQ sauce that covered raw chicken for 24 hours. Literally every single person that ate chicken that night ended up in the hospital with violent food poisoning, some for a few days.

Dear lord...

stevew · 10-07-2014, 09:38 AM

Would this be able to be cooked and used as dog food?

JPhillips · 10-07-2014, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Would this be able to be cooked and used as dog food?

If you're not worried about your dog dying, sure.

flere-imsaho · 10-07-2014, 10:01 AM

If I remember correctly, although freezing or cooking (at a high enough heat) this meat at this point can and will kill the bacteria involved, it will not also remove the toxins created by the bacteria. Which will then kill you.

Kodos · 10-07-2014, 10:13 AM

I think this is how the zombie apocalypse starts...

PackerFanatic · 10-07-2014, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos

I think this is how the zombie apocalypse starts...

Spoiler alert!

Suicane75 · 10-07-2014, 10:59 AM

Is this heaven?

No, it's Iowa.

But if you eat the meat, then yes, it's also heaven.

tarcone · 10-07-2014, 11:06 AM

Not all of the meat became unfrozen. Which is good.
So we can salvage quite a bit. What a bummer this is.

Kodos · 10-07-2014, 11:32 AM

Maybe unfrozen caveman lawyer will buy it off of you.

SteveMax58 · 10-07-2014, 12:31 PM

Perhaps we should be thinking of this in another way....

If you don't eat your meat,
you can't have any pudding.
How can you have any pudding,
if you don't eat your meat?

Kodos · 10-07-2014, 01:05 PM

You definitely don't want to eat this meat if it's pink, Floyd.

sterlingice · 10-07-2014, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suicane75

Is this heaven?

No, it's Iowa.

But if you eat the meat, then yes, it's also heaven.

SI

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10-06-2014, 09:04 PM	#7
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	I'd say mid 50s for temp and maybe 2 or 3 days. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

10-06-2014, 09:05 PM	#8
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10-06-2014, 09:23 PM	#10
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	I had food poisoning once and since then I've played it super safe. Toss it. Food poisoning was the worst I've ever felt next to the flu. It isn't worth the risk, IMHO. __________________

10-07-2014, 10:13 AM	#25
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	I think this is how the zombie apocalypse starts... __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-06-2014, 08:25 PM	#2
LastWhiteSoxFanStanding College Starter Join Date: Jun 2003	If it looks like this, I would let it go

10-06-2014, 08:45 PM	#3
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	It's safe to refreeze. But it will likely lose quality. Water is lost during defrosting so the meat will be drier later on when you cook.

10-06-2014, 08:45 PM	#4
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	I'm no Liberace, but that's not meat I would want in my mouth.

10-06-2014, 08:48 PM	#5
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Awful news...I'd trade it for a bag of beef jerky.

10-06-2014, 11:46 PM	#15
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	Could be worse. At a fraternity BBQ in college the stupid-ass in charge of the food marinated a bunch of chicken parts in BBQ sauce for a day (refrigerated), cooked the chicken, then served the marinade in bowls to eat with the chicken - yeah, same BBQ sauce that covered raw chicken for 24 hours. Literally every single person that ate chicken that night ended up in the hospital with violent food poisoning, some for a few days.

10-07-2014, 01:33 AM	#16
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I'd probably temp it but it's likely garbage and top risky to eat. Def wouldn't refreeze. If it's tainted there's no going back.

10-07-2014, 05:59 AM	#17
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I had to get Servesafe certified when I worked in corporate restaurant managment. Pretty much thawing and refreezing anything is a bad idea, and when it comes to raw meat you really don't want to mess around. Would you likely be safe, yes, but not really worth the risk unless you are seriously financialy strapped. IF you de keep it smell it before you cook it and make sure it is all coked well done.

10-07-2014, 07:57 AM	#20
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	So sorry about losing $500. But the only thing to do is toss it. Too warm for too long.

10-07-2014, 09:38 AM	#22
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Would this be able to be cooked and used as dog food?

10-07-2014, 10:01 AM	#24
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	If I remember correctly, although freezing or cooking (at a high enough heat) this meat at this point can and will kill the bacteria involved, it will not also remove the toxins created by the bacteria. Which will then kill you.

10-07-2014, 10:59 AM	#27
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	Is this heaven? No, it's Iowa. But if you eat the meat, then yes, it's also heaven.

10-07-2014, 11:06 AM	#28
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Not all of the meat became unfrozen. Which is good. So we can salvage quite a bit. What a bummer this is. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

10-07-2014, 11:32 AM	#29
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Maybe unfrozen caveman lawyer will buy it off of you. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

10-07-2014, 12:31 PM	#30
SteveMax58 College Starter Join Date: Dec 2006	Perhaps we should be thinking of this in another way.... If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your meat?

10-07-2014, 01:05 PM	#31
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	You definitely don't want to eat this meat if it's pink, Floyd. __________________ Author of The Bill Gates Challenge, as well as other groundbreaking dynasties.

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