Goals in life and more

[TCY Junkie]

So I logged on to facebook today for the first time since midweek and I saw friends making a positive stand on the same sex ruling. Don't believe in confronting them, believe or not I try to avoid those things. I just don't like how I view them based on it.

My goal in life is to make this place called earth better with me in it for me and future generations. There is definitely hopefully more generations after mine. So when I think about a settling down, I think will this girl help me help the world more. Think about raising kids to help people. I just don't understand how as a nation it is law that contradicts my views. Feel like people don't care about the future.

What are people's goals in life?

[Edward64]

There's a pretty good discussion going on in the Obama thread on same sex.

On high level goals - raise my 2 kids to be good adults, hopefully start a family and have me and wife live comfortably in retirement with the ability to leave some inheritance to the kids.

Tactically, in addition to making a good living, write a novel, live somewhere on the coast and (I think) go sailing.

[NobodyHere]

Not to end up out on the street.

[JonInMiddleGA]

To live long enough to piss on the grave of former GA Gov Roy Barnes (the flag change guy). He's 67 so I figure I've got at least a chance.

Other than that it's pretty much day to day

It's a year til the kid heads to college so that course is largely set.
I see no reason to think my own life will ever be much more than steady erosion -- both me & the stuff in it -- from this point forward.

"Goals" are pretty much a non-existent thing, other than maybe avoiding killing anybody

[Dutch]

Yeah, beyond being good and standard provisioning for my kids and setting them up for success...Id like to see more of America and the world in general.

[hollmt]

Originally Posted by TCY Junkie

So I logged on to facebook today for the first time since midweek and I saw friends making a positive stand on the same sex ruling. Don't believe in confronting them, believe or not I try to avoid those things. I just don't like how I view them based on it.

My goal in life is to make this place called earth better with me in it for me and future generations. There is definitely hopefully more generations after mine. So when I think about a settling down, I think will this girl help me help the world more. Think about raising kids to help people. I just don't understand how as a nation it is law that contradicts my views. Feel like people don't care about the future.

What are people's goals in life?

Hey TCY, I want to clarify what I am asking and to make sure you understand I am not trying to debate or argue anything. I am just confused, and want to ask so as not to assume.

You said you logged on to FB and saw friends making a positive stand on the same sex ruling thing. I don't know if the 'positive stand' is for or against it, but what does it matter? Why do we have such a problem with someone agreeing or disagreeing with what is not popular or currently politically correct? Why should that now change how you feel about them as a friend? Why do you view them differently now because of a 'ruling' and them speaking their opinion on it one way or the other?

Your other comment at the end "I just don't understand how as a nation it is law that contradicts my views", again, so what?

I guess, I don't understand your post that well, and I've read it about 10 times. It seems you want these goals, but you want people and the nation to conform to your viewpoint in the process of achieving these said goals and if your friends don't and they have their own beliefs and opinions, then you now all of a sudden have a different view of them as well as this nation.

Again, I don't want to assume, so that is why I am asking, so don't take any offense please.

[Arles]

Raise my kids well, be a positive impact on my community and take a few trips around the world with my wife before my time ends. I'd say that's where I am at right now.

[Kodos]

I'm still holding onto the dream of leading the Hoosiers to a national title in football.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Kodos

I'm still holding onto the dream of leading the Hoosiers to a national title in football.

Good one, I've always dreamed of somehow, someway working for the Tampa Bay Bucs....I thought it would be in the IT space...but now I'm thinking Fashion Consultant. Those uniform numbers have got to go!

[path12]

Goals change so much. Things that seemed important to me earlier (mostly job/climbing the ladder related) have faded drastically as I've gotten older and, well, if not wiser at least experienced more of the world, have some failures, catch a couple glimpses of my mortality and seen loved ones suffer and die.

So for me at least they've become a lot simpler:

Be a better person -- always try to err on the side of more compassion and empathy for others.

Be a better partner to my wife. Cherish my relationship.

Travel to as many different cultures as possible.

Live to see the Mariners win a World Series. This may require medical breakthroughs.

[Desnudo]

If you truly want to make the world a better place then I would recommend not wasting energy worrying about things that have zero impact in your day to day life

[TCY Junkie]

Thanks for all your serious and none serious responses. Hope you are doing well Pat.

Originally Posted by Edward64

There's a pretty good discussion going on in the Obama thread on same sex.

On high level goals - raise my 2 kids to be good adults, hopefully start a family and have me and wife live comfortably in retirement with the ability to leave some inheritance to the kids.

Tactically, in addition to making a good living, write a novel, live somewhere on the coast and (I think) go sailing.

I don't normally go in there but did after reading this. Thanks, but most of it was talking about faith. I believe in God but my dad was super strict. Actually told me when I was 5 if I didn't believe I'd go to hell when I died. And told me numerous times we didn't know when we'd go. So I was trying to not include faith.

Originally Posted by hollmt

Hey TCY, I want to clarify what I am asking and to make sure you understand I am not trying to debate or argue anything. I am just confused, and want to ask so as not to assume.

You said you logged on to FB and saw friends making a positive stand on the same sex ruling thing. I don't know if the 'positive stand' is for or against it, but what does it matter? Why do we have such a problem with someone agreeing or disagreeing with what is not popular or currently politically correct? Why should that now change how you feel about them as a friend? Why do you view them differently now because of a 'ruling' and them speaking their opinion on it one way or the other?

Your other comment at the end "I just don't understand how as a nation it is law that contradicts my views", again, so what?

I guess, I don't understand your post that well, and I've read it about 10 times. It seems you want these goals, but you want people and the nation to conform to your viewpoint in the process of achieving these said goals and if your friends don't and they have their own beliefs and opinions, then you now all of a sudden have a different view of them as well as this nation.

Again, I don't want to assume, so that is why I am asking, so don't take any offense please.

What I find attractive in a girl is her ability to raise kids to be successful. A goal like this for people to shoot for when they think about marriage would be good for the nation. Not marriage represent lots of fun fun sex.

Originally Posted by Desnudo

If you truly want to make the world a better place then I would recommend not wasting energy worrying about things that have zero impact in your day to day life

If this is directed at me, I am extremely happy. If a large portion of people would take a small amount of energy focusing on success for the future than things wouldn't be like this. I'm not asking people not to have sex, just to care to promote raising kids for the future is the most important thing. People that don't care about their kids if they have any, make me question if I can trust them with anything. What are their goals, motives.

I don't live for this but I would admire anyone who did.

Also, if people took time and energy to put into the future the world would be better in the future. Your statement is 180 degrees from right. Have a great day sir.

[TCY Junkie]

Originally Posted by hollmt

I guess, I don't understand your post that well, and I've read it about 10 times. It seems you want these goals, but you want people and the nation to conform to your viewpoint in the process of achieving these said goals and if your friends don't and they have their own beliefs and opinions, then you now all of a sudden have a different view of them as well as this nation.

Again, I don't want to assume, so that is why I am asking, so don't take any offense please.

If a person doesn't want this country to be successful than I do say the hell with them on bringing it down. It's not like being a democrat or Republican. Both sides think they are doing good. Gays can not be focused on the US succeeding if they aren't thinking about bringing kids in the world and raising them to succeed. Not their top goal in life. I would never want someone to know my top goal in life wasn't for my country to succeed, but it seems people are proud of something that promotes that.

[bob]

Originally Posted by TCY Junkie

Not marriage represent lots of fun fun sex.

I thought marriage was the end of all the fun fun sex?

[hollmt]

Originally Posted by TCY Junkie

If a person doesn't want this country to be successful than I do say the hell with them on bringing it down. It's not like being a democrat or Republican. Both sides think they are doing good. Gays can not be focused on the US succeeding if they aren't thinking about bringing kids in the world and raising them to succeed. Not their top goal in life. I would never want someone to know my top goal in life wasn't for my country to succeed, but it seems people are proud of something that promotes that.

So then we are back to what I thought and asked you. If a person doesn't agree with what you think/believe then you feel they are wrong and are ruining the country and apparently your friendship.

My girlfriend and I debate this sort of thing often. A side of her family is very very religious and have certain viewpoints on things, and she is not. She feels that basically, since their viewpoints and what they believe does not coincide with her beliefs, then they are wrong and most importantly "they dont understand", which to me is saying they are stupid. I do not agree at all.

2 of my best friends are completely different in their viewpoint on religion as well. One is into it, and the other is not. I side with one of them, but the point is, even though we believe in something different, I do not let it affect my friendship with them because one of them doesn't believe what I do. We laugh about it, and choose for the most part to not talk about it if it gets brought up.

Politics aside though, people are going to have different opinionsn and beliefs. It does not make them wrong or stupid. I think in the end, I am correct in that you believe the world would be a better place as long as everyone believes what you believe.

How fun/interesting is that??

[TCY Junkie]

Originally Posted by hollmt

So then we are back to what I thought and asked you. If a person doesn't agree with what you think/believe then you feel they are wrong and are ruining the country and apparently your friendship.

My girlfriend and I debate this sort of thing often. A side of her family is very very religious and have certain viewpoints on things, and she is not. She feels that basically, since their viewpoints and what they believe does not coincide with her beliefs, then they are wrong and most importantly "they dont understand", which to me is saying they are stupid. I do not agree at all.

2 of my best friends are completely different in their viewpoint on religion as well. One is into it, and the other is not. I side with one of them, but the point is, even though we believe in something different, I do not let it affect my friendship with them because one of them doesn't believe what I do. We laugh about it, and choose for the most part to not talk about it if it gets brought up.

Politics aside though, people are going to have different opinionsn and beliefs. It does not make them wrong or stupid. I think in the end, I am correct in that you believe the world would be a better place as long as everyone believes what you believe.

How fun/interesting is that??

I didn't post on FB because I didn't want to ruin my friendships or make them feel bad with my opinion based on my life experiences. I don't think people are stupid. They are too selfish, care about now more than future generations. I can be selfish at times but my girlfriend likes how I try to compensate for those times. I try to do awesome in general.

[TCY Junkie]

Originally Posted by hollmt

Politics aside though, people are going to have different opinionsn and beliefs. It does not make them wrong or stupid. I think in the end, I am correct in that you believe the world would be a better place as long as everyone believes what you believe.

How fun/interesting is that??

I would totally agree with you on about that on probably every topic but this one. I want the country to be better for generations. Thinking about death when little made me appreciate what is important in life and that is people. Don't want to be on my death bed thinking could I have helped someone more.

[TCY Junkie]

Originally Posted by hollmt

So then we are back to what I thought and asked you. If a person doesn't agree with what you think/believe then you feel they are wrong and are ruining the country and apparently your friendship.

If around someone who expresses their favor of gay marriage, I would simply say I have to go take a huge massive dump. See no reason to cut ties just because they don't have my life experiences and view things my way.

[Autumn]

Are you saying your problem with the gay lifestyle is that it doesn't produce children and therefore is not helping the country?

[Edward64]

I think this thread is misnamed.

[TCY Junkie]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Are you saying your problem with the gay lifestyle is that it doesn't produce children and therefore is not helping the country?

I've already stated numerous times. To me, marriage was sacred. You find a girl that is good at raising kids. Marry her and raise kids the best you can. One of the main goals in my life.

Originally Posted by Edward64

I think this thread is misnamed.

What would you suggest. I come in here and see questions about what I say very clearly. Feel they are being picked on because they don't agree with what they believe. Feel they are acting stupid because they don't want to put down what I said and show lack of caring for their country.
The purpose was to hear more people goals in life included a deep concern for future generations and not all about instant gratification.

[Izulde]

Visit all 7 continents (South America, Australia, Antarctica to go).

Publish at least one novel/book of short stories that survives in succeeding generations.

Find love, get married, start a family (this seems least likely to happen of the three, oddly enough).

That's the baseline for now.

[TCY Junkie]

Originally Posted by Izulde

Visit all 7 continents (South America, Australia, Antarctica to go).

Publish at least one novel/book of short stories that survives in succeeding generations.

Find love, get married, start a family (this seems least likely to happen of the three, oddly enough).

That's the baseline for now.

I could see how my gf wouldn't like hearing this so I have no plans to tell her, but I was focused on my dad getting back things together after losing my mom. She was my best friend, but seeing my dad suffer was so much worse than not having my mom. Wasn't really looking for someone, just some conversation with someone new. We dated for 3 months and I tried to end it, but she called me back up after not talking 2 weeks. Felt my dad had so many things he needed help with. Been dating 8 months since that point also. I am not the type normally to ever give up on someone I care about like my dad. But I've put things on hold for him for 6 plus years. My gf has to be the most patient person in the world to put up with me through this. As our bond grows, I feel more and more responsibility to her than my dad. Probably should have moved on way before with my dad, my siblings told me I needed to several times. The point is, I don't know how I found someone when I had basically all my walls up. Sure if I can find someone, anyone can.

[hollmt]

TCY, I want to make it clear I have absolutely no problem with what you believe in. I am not saying one way or the other if I agree with it or not, just that I have no problem with it

I clearly stated in my first post that our society seems as a whole to have a problem with the minority voicing their opinion on certain matters that goes against the 'at the time' popular thing to believe. I think that is extremelly wrong. I think everyone is entitled to their opinion and their belief. That doesn't mean that they are right or wrong, just they are entitled to believe what they believe.

As I mentioned, my GF and I clearly see this topic differently, to the point that when it gets brought up, and it actually did when she asked what I was typing about last week and I told her about this topic, it brought up a near argument between us to which we quickly stopped and moved on

The last time I saw my mom was the day before my birthday in 2001. I talked to her on the phone 2 times in 2007 and then that was it. 2 days before my 40th birthday this year, 2015, I received a call from her husband that the had passed away that night. I mention this not for any support because I am indifferent about it but only because I do wish I had made maybe one last (100th) effort to make things work with her and attempt it again but in the end I realized it really was out of my control. I couldn't make things better with us because she really didn't want to in the end. She didn't even want me to know she was sick or that she passed.

Desnudo made a comment in this thread I think I will live by even more so since my mom passed. Not sure if it his own, or if he heard it somewere but "If you truly want to make the world a better place then I would recommend not wasting energy worrying about things that have zero impact in your day to day life."

And I think Edwards point was that possibly this thread derailed

[cartman]

Nothing much, just to crush my enemies, to see them driven before me, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

[TCY Junkie]

Originally Posted by hollmt

TCY, I want to make it clear I have absolutely no problem with what you believe in. I am not saying one way or the other if I agree with it or not, just that I have no problem with it


Desnudo made a comment in this thread I think I will live by even more so since my mom passed. Not sure if it his own, or if he heard it somewere but "If you truly want to make the world a better place then I would recommend not wasting energy worrying about things that have zero impact in your day to day life."

And I think Edwards point was that possibly this thread derailed

I enjoyed our discussion. If I seemed to lump you in as not caring enough than sorry.

The comment by desnudo really riles me up. One of my main goals in life is to have a better country with me in it. When he says my goals have zero impact than he is saying my view is 100 percent wrong. That's how I took it.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by cartman

Nothing much, just to crush my enemies, to see them driven before me, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

Same.

[BillJasper]

Be a good parent, write a book, live on the coast somewhere and see the Miami Dolphins win a Super Bowl.

[bob]

Originally Posted by cartman

Nothing much, just to crush my enemies, to see them driven before me, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

This is pretty close to the goals of the Tony Kornhesier radio show, which I believe is to help your friends, destroy your enemies, and get free food.

[cyril]

Originally Posted by TCY Junkie

The comment by desnudo really riles me up. One of my main goals in life is to have a better country with me in it. When he says my goals have zero impact than he is saying my view is 100 percent wrong. That's how I took it.

I don't read what you inferred from his comment at all. He said "If you truly want to make the world a better place then I would recommend not wasting energy worrying about things that have zero impact in your day to day life"

To me what he said is plain and simple, be only concerned with your own effort in making the world better, do not be concerned over how others live their life as long as they don't have any impact in yours.

[DanGarion]

Originally Posted by TCY Junkie

Gays can not be focused on the US succeeding if they aren't thinking about bringing kids in the world and raising them to succeed.

Really? What world are you from? Just because someone can't conceive a child in their relationship with another person that doesn't mean they can't bring kids up in the world. How about a heterosexual relationship that discovers they can't have kids? I guess they might as well kill themselves since they can't raise kids to succeed. Your logic is completely messed up here. I know plenty of gay couples that are succeeding in bringing up just as responsible and intelligent children as heterosexual couples.

You realize not everyone's ultimate goal is having children... right? Should we ship them off to Syria or something?

One of my life goals is to get rid of all the bigots that feel they need to place their rules on everyone else and to teach my daughter that people are different and that is completely ok.

[tarcone]

To live well past retirement and live in a house on a beach in Florida witha quality blender to make killer margaritas and vodka-lemonades.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by DanGarion

Really? What world are you from? Just because someone can't conceive a child in their relationship with another person that doesn't mean they can't bring kids up in the world. How about a heterosexual relationship that discovers they can't have kids? I guess they might as well kill themselves since they can't raise kids to succeed. Your logic is completely messed up here. I know plenty of gay couples that are succeeding in bringing up just as responsible and intelligent children as heterosexual couples.

You realize not everyone's ultimate goal is having children... right? Should we ship them off to Syria or something?

This is an odd thread.

The way I see it, the U.S. and the world has plenty of people and plenty of children that actually need good homes. Gay people are helping my country be the best it can be by offering homes to those children that have no one.

One of my life goals is to get rid of all the bigots that feel they need to place their rules on everyone else and to teach my daughter that people are different and that is completely ok.

+1

[BillyNYC]

I'm not sure if I want kids, and if my wife and I decide to not do so, I don't think that makes me unpatriotic or a bad American.

We like to travel, to far-flung places. (Going to all 7 continents is one of my life goals for sure.) I'd like to think that when people hear "American" in Guatemala or Malaysia, they might have some expectation of us. With our respect for other cultures and how we behave accordingly, would like to think am doing much more to help this country than someone popping out kids just for the sake of it. Of course, there needs to be reproduction on a macro level for the world/country to exist, but don't view our micro decision makes the country better or worse.

Otherwise, I try not to be an ass and try to be someone that IF I were to have kids, they would respect not just as a father, but as a person.

If I don't have those kids, I don't feel like it's a shame for the country.

[Suicane75]

I wake up everyday with the same thought. Either I'm going to kill myself or I'm going to run for President. I never end up committing to either, and so it goes.

[nol]

These are all some interesting life goals, but the OP was looking for goals in life and more.

My main afterlife goal is probably to be a friendly ghost like Matthew McConaughey in Interstellar and leave my loved ones messages by knocking over books. I think anyone who wants to be a scary ghost is not helping the country.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by nol

These are all some interesting life goals, but the OP was looking for goals in life and more.

My main afterlife goal is probably to be a friendly ghost like Matthew McConaughey in Interstellar and leave my loved ones messages by knocking over books. I think anyone who wants to be a scary ghost is not helping the country.

I already have beachfront property reserved on the Lake of Fire.

[Julio Riddols]

My goal in life is to try and make the lives of those I love better in some way. I like to think paying it forward is a good philosophy in that regard. I would also like to eventually finish this book I am slowly putting together.

Something I would like to see in my lifetime is a world where everyone is born with the same rights and freedoms, regardless of how they look, who their parents are, or what their sexual orientation or gender is.

I also agree with anyone who thinks gay marriage and gay couples in general are good for the country/world because they contribute less to population growth while also providing potential homes for the all too numerous children who could use a couple loving parents. We have an overpopulation problem brewing in the world today anyway, so the fewer Duggar families we have the better.

Now what would make this country great? Probably a complete overhaul and reboot of our governmental system. I hate talking about that though, because it is such a pipe dream that discussion of the subject seems like wasted air at this level. If I were in a position of immense influence, however, I would make it my life's work to see the reboot put in motion.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

This is an odd thread.

Yes. Yes, it is.

[Subby]

My goal would be to rid the planet of all forms of religious extremism. It will never happen, so I'll probably focus on just being happy.