Right, which is why the suggestion another poster made about the way trades are done on the NHL games is a better solution than having no trade bar at all. Even if the trade looks fair or equal or you're giving up more value than you're getting in return, there's no guarantee the CPU will accept it. Trades on NHL are difficult to pull off because of that. It's hard to figure out what the CPU will accept and you're usually on the losing end of a trade.
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I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.
I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(
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I'm almost certain you can cancel a pending trade offer.Originally posted by Ghost Of The YearI can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.
I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(
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Some trades are decided the next day. There were people thinking trades take a few days but not all do. the ones that takes more, I try to sweeten the pot. Negotiate. Pay attention to their team needs. You may not have the type of player they want.Comment
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The buy, sell, stand-pat strategies apply to the offseason as wellOriginally posted by tesslLast edited by countryboy; 03-18-2026, 06:58 AM.I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.
I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(
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On the topic of "realism" this will be a bit long winded to address multiple points I've seen here and in some streams. I'll share some things that I've heard from GM's over the years in various interviews when they are asked some similar questions like "how realistic are the negotiations in Moneyball". The consistent messaging that I've always heard is that GM's are constantly doing their due diligence in contacting teams to know who is available, and what the cost of doing business is (a RL version of a trade evaluator). However, I've also heard them say that when there is mutual interest things usually move pretty fast. Which makes sense if both parties are already going into something with a rough idea of the parameters.
This is somewhat simulated with the trade block and trade targets, but these long drawn out IRL conversations have numerous casual touch points that the video game does not have a tool for. These GM's also have more information in these discussions than what the game allows for, meaning it's even less of a "here is my proposal, I'll hang up and just get back to me next week". Also, while we can set a trade block and positions that we're targeting, the CPU doesn't know if we're looking for a veteran to fill a gap or a prospect to be a future star...and then that week passes and you don't even know if you're close or the offer is a non-starter.
Also, we have to remember that a GM's literal job is to know the market (through some of the real conversations they are having) and they have entire staffs on their payroll to help them search for and evaluate deals. This is a video game, it's not our full time job, and we do not have our own personal assistants to help wade through everything. That's why it's not an apples to apples comparison and just saying "this is more realistic" loses a bit of meaning. I'm not against a full FOW style trade system as an option, but it is odd that it is the default and ONLY option when we literally do not have the same tools or resources as a real GM. We don't even have the same arsenal of trade assets as a real GM since we can't trade competitive balance picks, international free agent money, cash, PTBNL, etc.
So, having some QoL type of tools at our disposal like trade finder and/or trade evaluators would be extremely helpful since we already can't simulate realism with the tools that the game offers. It's not like the current system can't still be cheesed if you want to (force trades and 30 team control are workarounds).
The untouchables are also a bit of a problem. Mostly in that there are so many of them. Basically any young player still in the minors with a B potential or better is "untouchable" in spring training when the game starts. Even if you float Ronald Acuna Jr, you're not getting any kind of prospect package from an CPU team unless you're will to take some C prospects. I'm guessing this was done to protect the integrity of CPU rosters, but again it just feels like using a sledgehammer for a job that only requires you to drive in a tiny nail. The untouchables do change throughout the year, but it shouldn't take until June for a team to jump on the opportunity to get Ronald Acuna Jr at the cost of some prospects. I remember when the Braves traded Craig Kimbrel like a week before opening day. If the deal is there, you take it.
I look at OOTP which doesn't have an exact trade evaluator, but it both gives you the option for instance trade proposal responses (or a delay if you choose) and you get feedback on your proposals no matter when they come (technically you also see your assistant GM's evaluation prior to the offer, not that it does a great job but it is something). There is also the "make this work now" feature, some considering it cheesing but you don't have to use it if you don't want to. All of these give some insight into knowing if you need to drastically up your offer, or if they like the offer in general but are trying to squeeze just a little more out of you.Comment
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I assumed apparently incorrectly that when I offered a trade the CPU would counter with their own offer. I haven't seen that. Instead they either accept or reject. There does seem to be differing language as to why they are rejecting the trade.
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They have rejected every offer that I've made so far. In each case, I offered a major league player who did not have an expensive contract, at a position that they were seeking, and I sought a guy who was either a backup on their MLB team or a minor leaguer who was not a top prospect, at about the same OVR. Basically what I saw as a fair and even swap. Each time, they rejected within one day, saying that I wasn't close. No counter.
It will be interesting to try and figure out everything that has gone into coding what the CPU teams are taking into account with all of it. To this point, I have not attempted to trade for a player that they put on the block. I'm curious if that will change things.
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