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  • Deuce2223
    Hall Of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 12571

    #5761
    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by CBoller1331
    Williams for Lake seems good to me.
    Maybe you know more about Lake then I do, but I don't understand why the Cubs would want to give up Lake who was a Top-10 prospect back in 2012 and has 20/20 potential if he can stay healthy.

    Granted Williams is 2 years younger, but the Cubs farm is full of young OF's who are not MLB ready, seems like Lake would be better served starting in LF in Chicago

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    • WaitTilNextYear
      Go Cubs Go
      • Mar 2013
      • 16830

      #5762
      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Yeah, I agree with Deuce that there is no reason for the Cubs to make a lateral move like this. But if you want to play with Junior Lake, the value/fairness is ok.

      Junior Lake is really not good at all. He'll never make enough contact to do 20/20 and he's got the refuse to walk syndrome that was epidemic under the old Cubs regime.

      Lake started off ok last year, but the league adjusted to him and he has yet to adjust back. He'll probably go the way of a toolsy prospect that played a few years at replacement level and then go play in Japan like Tuffy Rhodes. I don't see much upside at this point unfortunately.
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      • baseballphanatic
        Rookie
        • Feb 2014
        • 160

        #5763
        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
        Yeah, I agree with Deuce that there is no reason for the Cubs to make a lateral move like this. But if you want to play with Junior Lake, the value/fairness is ok.

        Junior Lake is really not good at all. He'll never make enough contact to do 20/20 and he's got the refuse to walk syndrome that was epidemic under the old Cubs regime.

        Lake started off ok last year, but the league adjusted to him and he has yet to adjust back. He'll probably go the way of a toolsy prospect that played a few years at replacement level and then go play in Japan like Tuffy Rhodes. I don't see much upside at this point unfortunately.
        idk bout anyone else but good lawdy! Junior Lake is the most distracting player to pitch to with that crazy bat movement pre-pitch! I walk him too much or serve one up cuz i miss my spots cuz that freaking bat wobbling

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        • AC
          Win the East
          • Sep 2010
          • 14951

          #5764
          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by kmoser
          Franklin, Paxton, and Guerrero looks good for Kemp. The Dodgers need a 3B or SS (depends on which one Hanley is playing) so that's why I thought of Seager. Franklin would feel the SS role nicely for Hanley to just stay at 3rd.


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          Seager is better than Kemp already by miles and miles. Franklin probably is too. Maybe Paxton too. Guerrero + Taylor/Kelly is probably the most they could get.
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          • Legaci3
            Rookie
            • Feb 2009
            • 331

            #5765
            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
            Yeah, I agree with Deuce that there is no reason for the Cubs to make a lateral move like this. But if you want to play with Junior Lake, the value/fairness is ok.

            Junior Lake is really not good at all. He'll never make enough contact to do 20/20 and he's got the refuse to walk syndrome that was epidemic under the old Cubs regime.

            Lake started off ok last year, but the league adjusted to him and he has yet to adjust back. He'll probably go the way of a toolsy prospect that played a few years at replacement level and then go play in Japan like Tuffy Rhodes. I don't see much upside at this point unfortunately.
            Originally posted by Deuce2223
            Maybe you know more about Lake then I do, but I don't understand why the Cubs would want to give up Lake who was a Top-10 prospect back in 2012 and has 20/20 potential if he can stay healthy.

            Granted Williams is 2 years younger, but the Cubs farm is full of young OF's who are not MLB ready, seems like Lake would be better served starting in LF in Chicago
            Thanks for the advice.. I'll be passing on this trade then

            Edit: how does Kuroda to Nationals for A.J Cole or to the Padres for Zach Eflin work?

            And what would it take to get Charlie Blackmon? He's batting. 250/.283/.398 with 2hr and 7rbi
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            • Deuce2223
              Hall Of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 12571

              #5766
              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
              Yeah, I agree with Deuce that there is no reason for the Cubs to make a lateral move like this. But if you want to play with Junior Lake, the value/fairness is ok.

              Junior Lake is really not good at all. He'll never make enough contact to do 20/20 and he's got the refuse to walk syndrome that was epidemic under the old Cubs regime.

              Lake started off ok last year, but the league adjusted to him and he has yet to adjust back. He'll probably go the way of a toolsy prospect that played a few years at replacement level and then go play in Japan like Tuffy Rhodes. I don't see much upside at this point unfortunately.
              I miss Tuffy... I was a Senior in High school when he hit those 3 bombs off Dwight Gooden on opening day. Crazy that he never could make it in the Majors yet hit almost 500 bombs in Japan.

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              • Deuce2223
                Hall Of Fame
                • Dec 2007
                • 12571

                #5767
                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by AC
                Seager is better than Kemp already by miles and miles. Franklin probably is too. Maybe Paxton too. Guerrero + Taylor/Kelly is probably the most they could get.
                Man I would almost be tempted to make this trade (IRL and in my Franchise). Not sure I could get Kemp in my Franchise though, he actually is playing well hitting over .300 with 30 HR's and 30 SB's and will likely win the Silver Slugger for NL OF's.

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                • AC
                  Win the East
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 14951

                  #5768
                  Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Deuce2223
                  Man I would almost be tempted to make this trade (IRL and in my Franchise). Not sure I could get Kemp in my Franchise though, he actually is playing well hitting over .300 with 30 HR's and 30 SB's and will likely win the Silver Slugger for NL OF's.
                  Then yeahhhhh probably not. But if he isn't playing well then the team taking him on won't have to give up much if they're taking on the whole contract.
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                  • BertmanT5
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 65

                    #5769
                    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Alrighty then. Started up a Rockies franchise, mainly because I'm a big Tulo and Cargo fan. And I find being my Cubs leads to a little more attachment and unwillingness to let go(I.e I never would let go of Barney under any circumstance).

                    Anyways, I'm looking to deal Cuddyer and Charlie Blackmon. I'm at the all star break, and I'm looking to give Corey Dickerson (hitting .343 with 6 HRs and 38 rbis) the CF job and try and give a hot Kyle Parker a shot.

                    Cuddyer has struggled the week leading up to the break (.259/.329/.420 slash at the moment) and Blackmon has fallen out of favor (.247/.307/.358 slash at the moment). The team I think would be the best fit would be Seattle (maybe the white sox too). Seattle looks to have the pitching prospects I desperately need. I just want to avoid being greedy. So I came to the best place to prevent that.

                    I'd like to move both to Seattle, but I'm not against moving one there and shopping the other around. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
                    Last edited by BertmanT5; 07-27-2014, 12:26 PM.
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                    • WaitTilNextYear
                      Go Cubs Go
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 16830

                      #5770
                      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Legaci3
                      Thanks for the advice.. I'll be passing on this trade then

                      Edit: how does Kuroda to Nationals for A.J Cole or to the Padres for Zach Eflin work?

                      And what would it take to get Charlie Blackmon? He's batting. 250/.283/.398 with 2hr and 7rbi
                      No, you couldn't get Cole for Kuroda and the Nats already have good SPs. The Padres are awful, so I don't see them making a move like that. You should look at teams that are winning, but could use a starter.

                      Originally posted by BertmanT5
                      Alrighty then. Started up a Rockies franchise, mainly because I'm a big Tulo and Cargo fan. And I find being my Cubs leads to a little more attachment and unwillingness to let go(I.e I never would let go of Barney under any circumstance).

                      Anyways, I'm looking to deal Cuddyer and Charlie Blackmon. I'm at the all star break, and I'm looking to give Corey Dickerson (hitting .343 with 6 HRs and 38 rbis) the CF job and try and give a hot Kyle Parker a shot.

                      Cuddyer has struggled the week leading up to the break (.259/.329/.420 slash at the moment) and Blackmon has fallen out of favor (.247/.307/.358 slash at the moment). The team I think would be the best fit would be Seattle (maybe the white sox too). Seattle looks to have the pitching prospects I desperately need. I just want to avoid being greedy. So I came to the best place to prevent that.

                      I'd like to move both to Seattle, but I'm not against moving one there and shopping the other around. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
                      Cuddyer to Seattle is fine if they're at least in the wild card race. You could probably get any single pitching prospect they have other than Taijuan Walker, I'd think, if Cuddy is doing pretty well. A lot of it depends on how Cuddy is doing and how in contention the M's are.

                      You could move Charlie Blackmon to NYY and answer the above posters question at the same time, lol.
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                      • BertmanT5
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 65

                        #5771
                        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Yankees are 14 out of the east and 10 plus out of the wild card (so he'd be more of a long term fix) which makes sense.

                        And yes Seattle is in the hunt. Leads a wild card spot and is 2 back of the A's. Will look at what guys they have and do a check back to make sure it's not a bad trade. Will also look at NY to see what a decent move for Blackmon will be.
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                        • Legaci3
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 331

                          #5772
                          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                          No, you couldn't get Cole for Kuroda and the Nats already have good SPs. The Padres are awful, so I don't see them making a move like that. You should look at teams that are winning, but could use a starter.
                          Well in my franchise the Padres are in first for the wild card but there pitchers rotation can use help and same thing with the nationals which are first in there division, also Strasburg and Fister are on the disable list 1-2 months. That's why I was looking at those 2. But I guess I'll look at other teams like the Royals and Tigers which are fighting for first in the division, .5 games from each other. Kuroda is currently 10-3 with a 3.57 Era.
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                          • kmoser
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 1398

                            #5773
                            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Legaci3
                            Well in my franchise the Padres are in first for the wild card but there pitchers rotation can use help and same thing with the nationals which are first in there division, also Strasburg and Fister are on the disable list 1-2 months. That's why I was looking at those 2. But I guess I'll look at other teams like the Royals and Tigers which are fighting for first in the division, .5 games from each other. Kuroda is currently 10-3 with a 3.57 Era.

                            I think you could get a low B and maybe a High C for Kuroda from one of those teams since he is playing decently.


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                            • BertmanT5
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 65

                              #5774
                              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Was debating between Paxton and Hultzen, and I like Hultzen a tad better. Pretty similar, but I like how Hultzen is a year younger. So how would this look:

                              Seattle Gives:

                              SP Danny Hultzen
                              SP Victor Sanchez

                              Colorado Gives:

                              RF Michael Cuddyer

                              Not sure if adding Sanchez gives me to much.

                              As for Blackmon and the Yankees, I'm not sold it's a match. They have an abundance of OFers already with Beltran, Ellsbury, Ichiro, Gardner, and Soriano.

                              Boston, the White Sox, or A's would be a better fit in my franchise. But if did move him:

                              Yankees Give:

                              SP Manny Banuelos
                              RP Mark Montgomery

                              Colorado Gives:

                              Charlie Blackmon

                              That's where I might start. Pitching is my number one concern. But a future first baseman is also on my mind. Not sure how others feel about the fairness of it.
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                              • kmoser
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 1398

                                #5775
                                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by BertmanT5
                                Was debating between Paxton and Hultzen, and I like Hultzen a tad better. Pretty similar, but I like how Hultzen is a year younger. So how would this look:

                                Seattle Gives:

                                SP Danny Hultzen
                                SP Victor Sanchez

                                Colorado Gives:

                                RF Michael Cuddyer

                                Not sure if adding Sanchez gives me to much.

                                As for Blackmon and the Yankees, I'm not sold it's a match. They have an abundance of OFers already with Beltran, Ellsbury, Ichiro, Gardner, and Soriano.

                                Boston, the White Sox, or A's would be a better fit in my franchise. But if did move him:

                                Yankees Give:

                                SP Manny Banuelos
                                RP Mark Montgomery

                                Colorado Gives:

                                Charlie Blackmon

                                That's where I might start. Pitching is my number one concern. But a future first baseman is also on my mind. Not sure how others feel about the fairness of it.

                                For the first trade, what is Sanchez's potential?
                                The 2nd trade looks pretty fair. The thing with the Yankees is that only 2 of their outfielders aren't "elderly" so I don't think they would mind having Blackmon


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