MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[AC]

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Really? Unroe is a B potential, 18-year old shortstop. And you think it's realistic that I get another player on top of that for Veras? If so, that would definitely be something I'd do. The problem is I have to trade one more player or else the trade won't go through because I'm at 90 total players on the game.

And why would it not be legal to move Gleybers? And again, I'm the "general manager" of the Cubs so if I make a bone-head trade then that's on me. I just use this thread to try and prevent the CPU from doing it.

I don't mean to get stuck on Ciuffo but if Gleybers would be a player that would pull him away from Tampa Bay, I'd do it. Along with Veras.

But as for other options, I've long had my eye on Swihart in Boston. But I'm not wanting to part ways with Soler, which is what most people here say it would take. Boston is out of the playoff race and probably has no interest in a player like Veras right now.

Didn't know Unroe was a B. Scratch him entirely.

I'm pretty sure you can't move IFAs right after you sign them, and Ciuffo can't be dealt for a full year until after the draft. Also, why would two teams deal recently acquired prospects? And on top of that it's a bad deal for you? It's unfair, unrealistic, and illegal. Come on man. Just let it go.

I can see that you'd do it. I get that part. I'm saying that you're a.) not allowed by the MLB Collective Bargaining Agreement to the best of my knowledge, b.) making an unrealistic trade, and c.) losing it. It's your chise so do what you want but I mean, what's the point of the thread if everyone is telling you not to make the deal and everyone is giving you other suggestions and you keep ignoring it?

[kmoser]

MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Gonna add this again from a previous post, as I realized that it has been pushed back to the bottom of the previous page:

I'm approaching the All-Star break in my Cubs franchise. I'm in year 2017, and below are Castro's stats since my first season:

Castro (88 OVR, B POT, if that matters) 26 years old (4th year of 6 year contract, $5.8M, $6.1M, $6.4M left)
2014: .265 14/65
2015: .284 10/57
2016: .241 15/64
2017: .240ish 9/43 in around 320 ABs

What would his value be at this point? He's still rated really well, but for some reason he just doesn't produce for me.

I do sim chises so I think I can help you out here.
I'm pretty sure teams would want Starlin even after 1 1/2 not too great years. His contract is also very team friendly so that helps out a lot too. His value on the spreadsheet is a High B, High B but I think it now should be High B, Low B. Just sell him to a contender that needs a SS or really almost any team that needs a SS because he is still only 26.



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[AC]

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Jr, who needs a shortstop?

[Deuce2223]

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I'm approaching the All-Star break in my Cubs franchise. I'm in year 2017, and below are Castro's stats since my first season:

Castro (88 OVR, B POT, if that matters) 26 years old (4th year of 6 year contract, $5.8M, $6.1M, $6.4M left)
2014: .265 14/65
2015: .284 10/57
2016: .241 15/64
2017: .240ish 9/43 in around 320 ABs

What would his value be at this point? He's still rated really well, but for some reason he just doesn't produce for me.

I would still think the Mets or Yankees would be a good place to send him. Maybe the M's depending on how Miller has performed in your Franchise. LA Angels if Aybar is not playing well could be another.

Arizona if none of their young SS's have done anything and maybe the Giants depending on Crawford's stats and if they are even in the playoff hunt.

It's a little hard to know without knowing how other teams have played to this point and what teams are in playoff contention at the break.

As far as value I would agree with the other comment that probably a High B and Low B or maybe a Mid B with a couple of High C's.

[Gagnon39]

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Didn't know Unroe was a B. Scratch him entirely.

I'm pretty sure you can't move IFAs right after you sign them, and Ciuffo can't be dealt for a full year until after the draft. Also, why would two teams deal recently acquired prospects? And on top of that it's a bad deal for you? It's unfair, unrealistic, and illegal. Come on man. Just let it go.

I can see that you'd do it. I get that part. I'm saying that you're a.) not allowed by the MLB Collective Bargaining Agreement to the best of my knowledge, b.) making an unrealistic trade, and c.) losing it. It's your chise so do what you want but I mean, what's the point of the thread if everyone is telling you not to make the deal and everyone is giving you other suggestions and you keep ignoring it?

I'm simply trying to understand some of your points. Not ignoring anything. I'll deal Veras for another player that you mentioned earlier then. There's no doubt that (if the situation was what it is on my game) that someone would take Veras. There's no doubt about that. In fact, I'm sure that's what the Cubs had in mind for him when they signed him. Just like Jason Hammel this year. Sign a veteran, hope he plays good enough to be trade bait at the deadline for prospects.

[k_mac]

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Didn't know Unroe was a B. Scratch him entirely.



I'm pretty sure you can't move IFAs right after you sign them, and Ciuffo can't be dealt for a full year until after the draft. Also, why would two teams deal recently acquired prospects? And on top of that it's a bad deal for you? It's unfair, unrealistic, and illegal. Come on man. Just let it go.



I can see that you'd do it. I get that part. I'm saying that you're a.) not allowed by the MLB Collective Bargaining Agreement to the best of my knowledge, b.) making an unrealistic trade, and c.) losing it. It's your chise so do what you want but I mean, what's the point of the thread if everyone is telling you not to make the deal and everyone is giving you other suggestions and you keep ignoring it?

I think you're right. The IFA have to be under contract for at least a year before they're traded, just like draft picks. It would be illegal, but I'm assuming that he's at the deadline (or at least close) which would be a full year for the IFA's.

I agree fully though, it's not only very unrealistic, it's not a good trade. Gleyber was 1b to Eloy's 1a in the IFA pool last year. We got both of them, and paid them a ton. We obviously think very highly of them. There's no way we trade them without seeing what we've got. (IRL, they've only played a handful of games). Veras is irrelevant in the trade, I wouldn't do Cuiffo for Torres straight up.

From what I've read of the debate about Veras, (and most relievers in general) is that they're being overvalued greatly, 80-90% of relievers aren't worth a B prospect, no matter what their stats are.

[AC]

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Exactly my thoughts.

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[Jr.]

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I do sim chises so I think I can help you out here.
I'm pretty sure teams would want Starlin even after 1 1/2 not too great years. His contract is also very team friendly so that helps out a lot too. His value on the spreadsheet is a High B, High B but I think it now should be High B, Low B. Just sell him to a contender that needs a SS or really almost any team that needs a SS because he is still only 26.



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That's kind of what I was thinking, too. He's hitting about 60 points higher on the road than at home, so maybe it's just a Wrigley field thing.

Jr, who needs a shortstop?

I haven't looked in depth. I was asking more what kind of value he has, and not so much specific players I should target as there has been lots of roster movement in my franchise.

I would still think the Mets or Yankees would be a good place to send him. Maybe the M's depending on how Miller has performed in your Franchise. LA Angels if Aybar is not playing well could be another.

Arizona if none of their young SS's have done anything and maybe the Giants depending on Crawford's stats and if they are even in the playoff hunt.

It's a little hard to know without knowing how other teams have played to this point and what teams are in playoff contention at the break.

As far as value I would agree with the other comment that probably a High B and Low B or maybe a Mid B with a couple of High C's.

Thanks for the feedback. I can figure out a trade, I was just wondering what kind of value I should be looking at.

Thanks a lot, guys. I appreciate it.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Glad to see people finally attempt to answer Jr.'s question. Maybe all that had to happen was for me to say people weren't going to answer it, lol.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I'm simply trying to understand some of your points. Not ignoring anything. I'll deal Veras for another player that you mentioned earlier then. There's no doubt that (if the situation was what it is on my game) that someone would take Veras. There's no doubt about that. In fact, I'm sure that's what the Cubs had in mind for him when they signed him. Just like Jason Hammel this year. Sign a veteran, hope he plays good enough to be trade bait at the deadline for prospects.

You are making a false comparison. Flipping a SP is not comparable to a reliever. Notice the Cubs have NOT been pursuing the Feldman/Hammel/Maholm flipping strategy with relievers because RPs don't have that kind of value.

Moreover, most people in here love to debate, but there are limits and if you pop up with Veras for another high B catching prospect in the Swihart/Ciuffo mold, people will probably start ignoring your posts because they don't feel that you are listening to their advice. Just bein honest.

[BlueJays09]

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I'm the blue jays. Currently at the All Star break. I am In 1st by 4 games over the Red Sox. I need 2B, and a SP who are of good quality. I don't rly wanna trade any of my starters (current jays roster) except Rasmus who I could use to get one of those positions mentioned. I can also move any of my prospects except Stroman. Just getting a feel for what I may be able to get.


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[Coper3000]

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I'm the blue jays. Currently at the All Star break. I am In 1st by 4 games over the Red Sox. I need 2B, and a SP who are of good quality. I don't rly wanna trade any of my starters (current jays roster) except Rasmus who I could use to get one of those positions mentioned. I can also move any of my prospects except Stroman. Just getting a feel for what I may be able to get.


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The Diamondbacks could be a nice fit. Aaron Hill, Didi G, or even Prado at 2B. A rotation arm such as Collmenter or Miley. They really have no use for Rasmus though, so prospects might be the way to go.

[BlueJays09]

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The Diamondbacks could be a nice fit. Aaron Hill, Didi G, or even Prado at 2B. A rotation arm such as Collmenter or Miley. They really have no use for Rasmus though, so prospects might be the way to go.

I wouldn't mind Prado and a starter. Any idea what would need to go back ?


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[Bull_Market]

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Totally off topic, I couldn't help but think of this thread when I was looking at transactions the other day and saw Matt LaPorta retired. I kind of chuckled to myself as I thought "some of the guys on OS would have rookie fever over this guy 5+ year ago". Add another to the list of prospect flameouts.

[kmoser]

MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I wouldn't mind Prado and a starter. Any idea what would need to go back ?


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Roberto Ozuna and Drew Hutchinson for Martin Prado and Collmenter is fair based off the spreadsheet.


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