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  • PitholeCreek
    Rookie
    • Feb 2009
    • 85

    #91
    Re: They fixed the blue jays blue!

    Originally posted by merchant1874
    Going by this pic on facebook the Blue jays blue is the power of Ps4 better.

    Unfortunately they still haven't gotten the stripes on the road uniforms correct. Note the blue stripes on Lawrie's pants. The stripe in between should be white, not grey. Compare the screenshot with this photo of the road jersey. The stripes on the pants and sleeves of the road greys should go blue-white-blue.

    Edit: Here is a higher resolution photo that shows what I'm taking about.
    Last edited by PitholeCreek; 04-19-2014, 10:44 AM. Reason: See above.

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    • JaFFiTh
      MVP
      • Mar 2008
      • 1685

      #92
      Re: They fixed the blue jays blue!

      Yeah thats right but I can live with that. Not very noticeable and I'm sure not many people knew that about the stripes. (I knew but didn't notice the game one till you mentioned it)

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      • Segagendude
        Banned
        • Aug 2008
        • 7940

        #93
        Re: They fixed the blue jays blue!

        Originally posted by PitholeCreek
        Unfortunately they still haven't gotten the stripes on the road uniforms correct. Note the blue stripes on Lawrie's pants. The stripe in between should be white, not grey. Compare the screenshot with this photo of the road jersey. The stripes on the pants and sleeves of the road greys should go blue-white-blue.

        Edit: Here is a higher resolution photo that shows what I'm taking about.
        And look at the grass! Smh.


        Lolol

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        • PitholeCreek
          Rookie
          • Feb 2009
          • 85

          #94
          Re: They fixed the blue jays blue!

          Originally posted by JaFFiTh
          Yeah thats right but I can live with that. Not very noticeable and I'm sure not many people knew that about the stripes. (I knew but didn't notice the game one till you mentioned it)
          While it's not as big of an issue as the shade of blue was, it's still something I'd like to see fixed. Ever since I noticed it (it's been an issue in the game since the new uniforms were introduced in 2012), it's stuck out like a sore thumb for me.

          As I recall, SCEA is aware of it. I seem to remember Ramone Russell (or another SCEA representative here) responding to a post on this subject a year or two ago. It's disappointing it wasn't addressed when they made the other tweaks to the Blue Jays uniforms.

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          • merchant1874
            MVP
            • Aug 2009
            • 1337

            #95
            Re: They fixed the blue jays blue!

            Originally posted by PitholeCreek
            Unfortunately they still haven't gotten the stripes on the road uniforms correct. Note the blue stripes on Lawrie's pants. The stripe in between should be white, not grey. Compare the screenshot with this photo of the road jersey. The stripes on the pants and sleeves of the road greys should go blue-white-blue.

            Edit: Here is a higher resolution photo that shows what I'm taking about.
            Yeah I did notice that too.

            Is it possibly a style guide issue? I can forgive style guide stuff but things that are just artistically wrong irk me a bit

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            • PitholeCreek
              Rookie
              • Feb 2009
              • 85

              #96
              Re: They fixed the blue jays blue!

              Originally posted by merchant1874
              Is it possibly a style guide issue? I can forgive style guide stuff but things that are just artistically wrong irk me a bit
              I don't know if it's an issue with the style guide, but it strikes me as a small thing that could have easily been an oversight by SCEA. If the stripes depicted in the game aren't as they appear in the style guide, and SCEA is not permitted to deviate from that style guide, then it's something they would need to fix.

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              • SilverBullet1929
                MVP
                • Feb 2012
                • 1924

                #97
                Re: They fixed the blue jays blue!

                Originally posted by merchant1874
                Yeah I did notice that too.

                Is it possibly a style guide issue? I can forgive style guide stuff but things that are just artistically wrong irk me a bit
                I've always had this thought that if the style guide has to be followed then how can scea be allowed to get away with so many errors? Because logic would say that all artistic errors such as the Jays road stripes issue, would clearly be in violation of the style guide.

                I'm by no means advocating everyone going crazy over this one missing white stripe but if that white stripe has been gray in the Show for 3 straight games now, then hasn't SCEA not been following the guide all this time? And thus shouldn't they be forced to fix that issue?

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                • SilverBullet1929
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1924

                  #98
                  Re: They fixed the blue jays blue!

                  Originally posted by SilverBullet1929
                  I've always had this thought that if the style guide has to be followed then how can scea be allowed to get away with so many non style guide errors? Because logic would say that all artistic errors such as the Jays road stripes issue, would clearly be in violation of the style guide.

                  I'm by no means advocating everyone going crazy over this one missing white stripe but if that white stripe has been gray in the Show for 3 straight games now, then hasn't SCEA not been following the guide all this time? And thus shouldn't they be forced to fix that issue?

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                  • ShowTyme15
                    LADetermined
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11853

                    #99
                    Re: They fixed the blue jays blue!

                    Originally posted by SilverBullet1929
                    I've always had this thought that if the style guide has to be followed then how can scea be allowed to get away with so many errors? Because logic would say that all artistic errors such as the Jays road stripes issue, would clearly be in violation of the style guide.

                    I'm by no means advocating everyone going crazy over this one missing white stripe but if that white stripe has been gray in the Show for 3 straight games now, then hasn't SCEA not been following the guide all this time? And thus shouldn't they be forced to fix that issue?

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                    Not every team updates their guide yearly. In this case with the stripe being gray it is mostly likely gray in the guide. SCEA isn't getting away with errors they are following rules set by MLB. If you have a problem with the guide just call the Major League teams that have errors and assdk them to UPDATE their section of the guide.
                    READ:http://www.polygon.com/2014/3/29/555...-game-uniforms
                    Last edited by ShowTyme15; 04-20-2014, 12:41 PM.

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                    • Blzer
                      Resident film pundit
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 42520

                      #100
                      Re: They fixed the blue jays blue!

                      Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                      Not every team updates their guide yearly. In this case with the stripe being gray it is mostly likely gray in the guide. SCEA isn't getting away with errors they are following rules set by MLB. If you have a problem with the guide just call the Major League teams that have errors and assdk them to UPDATE their section of the guide.
                      Well I think people always ask why sometimes different games have different colors then. 2K would have different items, or even RBI Baseball could as well. Even different schedules sometimes (remember when the Cubs' schedule was off that one year?).
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                      • ShowTyme15
                        LADetermined
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 11853

                        #101
                        Re: They fixed the blue jays blue!

                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        Well I think people always ask why sometimes different games have different colors then. 2K would have different items, or even RBI Baseball could as well. Even different schedules sometimes (remember when the Cubs' schedule was off that one year?).
                        RBI and 2K were both fully licensed by MLB(exclusive) and for 2k it's possible they disregarded the guide and did what they wanted. I edited my post. The article is about uniforms.
                        I get peoples frustration with they style guide, but Ramone and Knight etc...... Have all said style guide is KING. I get the Blue Jays color being wrong and is now corrected............but a stripe is clearly a guide issue.
                        Last edited by ShowTyme15; 04-20-2014, 12:50 PM.

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                        • ShowTyme15
                          LADetermined
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 11853

                          #102
                          Re: They fixed the blue jays blue!

                          I'm just going off of these and 1,000 other posts over the years and I'll leave it at that.
                          Originally posted by Knight165
                          This is in response to BaseballCtchr....
                          You posted...:

                          The thing I question about the style guide response is if MLB is so strict that The Show has to follow the style guide why do they allow teams to wear unis that "aren't in the style guide?" Seems contradictory to me.

                          Still will buy the game because in the grand scheme of things it isn't that big of a deal to me but I will always want more uni options. I hope that for the PS4 that the unis are correct/can be corrected.


                          The MLB teams are not bound by the style guide....
                          They style guide is for commercial use of companies and businesses outside of the MLB.
                          I YOU started a company and paid the license to the MLB.....to sell goods resembling MLB apparel...say pajamas.......you would be sent a guide. If you don't adhere to the guide with the goods you produce, you would probably have to pull those items for sale and get sued/fined for not reflecting the product as the MLB permits you to.

                          M.K.
                          Knight165
                          Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                          It's very simple we looked at this two years ago when the complaints first started. Colors and material react different depending on lighting artificial or natural, bounce lighting, etc........... We couldn't get a jersey in the studio to varify the color tone. So our artist did the best he could.

                          Kirby hasn't been with our dev team an extremely long time and he's unaware of things that transpired in the past. So he does what everyone on our team does on these forums see an issue bring it up with the responsible parties and we see what happens. And yes the MLB style guide is king it's not the artists job to look at photos on the internet. It's their job to go off the style guide.

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                          • kehlis
                            Moderator
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 27738

                            #103
                            Re: They fixed the blue jays blue!

                            Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                            I'm just going off of these and 1,000 other posts over the years and I'll leave it at that.
                            I get where you are coming from but I've seen the style guide so all I'll say is you may want to pump the brakes a bit on your convictions.

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                            • PitholeCreek
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 85

                              #104
                              Re: They fixed the blue jays blue!

                              Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                              Not every team updates their guide yearly. In this case with the stripe being gray it is mostly likely gray in the guide. SCEA isn't getting away with errors they are following rules set by MLB. If you have a problem with the guide just call the Major League teams that have errors and assdk them to UPDATE their section of the guide.
                              I'm skeptical it's a guide issue. I could understand it if the stripes were a subtle tweak that the Blue Jays had made one year, but the stripes have been that way ever since the uniforms were introduced in 2012. The road uniforms have never had blue-grey-blue stripes on the pants and sleeves.

                              I suppose it's possible that the blue-grey-blue stripes could have been part of an earlier unreleased design that somehow made it into the guide, but even that's unlikely. It wouldn't make much sense for blue-grey-blue stripes to have ever been contemplated by the team, as they would be inconsistent with:
                              • the blue-white-blue split numbering/lettering on the road grey uniform,
                              • the stripes used on the home uniform, and
                              • the team's branding in general.

                              Grey isn't one of the team's colours, so there would be no reason for the team to have considered a grey stripe on a uniform.

                              The only way it's a guide issue is if there's a flat-out error in the guide. I'm sure there's some outdated information in the guide, but I have a hard time believing a stripe that is supposed to be white was published as grey in the guide. I'm more inclined to believe it was an SCEA oversight at this point.

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                              • SilverBullet1929
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 1924

                                #105
                                Re: They fixed the blue jays blue!

                                Exactly what PitholeCreek said. Something being outdated I can understand. But the Jays stripe is a perfect example that I'd have a really hard time believing it's wrong in the guide.

                                Also, and this is nobody's fault but it's pretty counterproductive that commercial companies are forced to follow the style guide and the team isn't. Of course teams can wear what they want but if the purpose of the style guide is to protect the mlb teams brands and then the team itself goes against that. Everyone comes out even worse from it

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