MLB 14 The Show Video - Dynamic Batting and Fielding Cameras (PS4)

[ShowTyme15]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Video - Dynamic Batting and Fielding Cameras (PS4)

I wonder... if they can get face scans of real players, why not get their real windups too?

The players themselves would have to do a mocap session. Believe it or not a lot of players aren't cooperative when it comes to these things.

[A_Quiet_Pro]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Video - Dynamic Batting and Fielding Cameras (PS4)

The players themselves would have to do a mocap session. Believe it or not a lot of players aren't cooperative when it comes to these things.

*cough Mike Trout cough*

[strawberryshortcake]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Video - Dynamic Batting and Fielding Cameras (PS4)

Its a problem with motion capture, if a guy half-asses it in his mocap session it will be reflected in the game. The devs can artificially speed up the delivery though, I believe a couple years ago they went through a lot of the old windups and added more whip and speed.

That's what I figured..., however, I'd figure during the motion capture sessions, they would have a radar gun in play. Have the motion capture guy throw a 95 mph (or attempt) fastball. And if it doesn't clock over 90 mph, redo the motion capture.

However, my concern stems from not actually seeing any of pitchers in MLB the Show have accurately portrayed realistic follow-through or whip. Most if not all the motion captures for all pitchers seems to have this slow/toss characteristic (maybe I'm mistaken). I wish I could see a properly executed example in the game with any pitcher. Throwing this question into the void: would the developers be inclined to speed up their follow through from this point onward?

[A_Quiet_Pro]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Video - Dynamic Batting and Fielding Cameras (PS4)

That's what I figured..., however, I'd figure during the motion capture sessions, they would have a radar gun in play. Have the motion capture guy throw a 95 mph (or attempt) fastball. And if it doesn't clock over 90 mph, redo the motion capture.

However, my concern stems from not actually seeing any of pitchers in MLB the Show have accurately portrayed realistic follow-through or whip. Most if not all the motion captures for all pitchers seems to have this slow/toss characteristic (maybe I'm mistaken). I wish I could see a properly executed example in the game with any pitcher. Throwing this question into the void: would the developers be inclined to speed up their follow through from this point onward?

If you read up on how Madden does their Mo-Cap, (yes, I realize two different companies) but the way they have to do the tech on Mo-Cap is very complex. NOTHING in the video game making process is simple.

[strawberryshortcake]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Video - Dynamic Batting and Fielding Cameras (PS4)

If you read up on how Madden does their Mo-Cap, (yes, I realize two different companies) but the way they have to do the tech on Mo-Cap is very complex. NOTHING in the video game making process is simple.

I'll have to find out about the Madden Mo-Caps articles later, unless you or anyone else has a direct link to it.

I guess I should bring up other previous video game baseball to illustrate better pitcher's follow through, whip motions, etc. I think most of the pitchers' in Proyakuu Spirits do show a more realistic follow through (e.g. strong follow through, force, speed, strong whip, strong leg kicks, the entire body into the pitch, etc. Pitching is about using the entire body....). Hopefully this shows that it can be done in a video game. The following are just random videos I found on youtube. I was hoping to see a more realistic change in the PS4 versions of the Show.

Skip to the 3:30 mark and onward.

<iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/1v6WgqAvNGQ" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

Skip to the 5:58 mark and onward

<iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/SDx9YEYK2yI" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

[nemesis04]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Video - Dynamic Batting and Fielding Cameras (PS4)

One of those multiple topic threads I see. Lol

[tnixen]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Video - Dynamic Batting and Fielding Cameras (PS4)

I'll have to find out about the Madden Mo-Caps articles later, unless you or anyone else has a direct link to it.

I guess I should bring up other previous video game baseball to illustrate better pitcher's follow through, whip motions, etc. I think most of the pitchers' in Proyakuu Spirits do show a more realistic follow through (e.g. strong follow through, force, speed, strong whip, strong leg kicks, the entire body into the pitch, etc. Pitching is about using the entire body....). Hopefully this shows that it can be done in a video game. The following are just random videos I found on youtube. I was hoping to see a more realistic change in the PS4 versions of the Show.

Skip to the 3:30 mark and onward.

<iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/1v6WgqAvNGQ" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

Skip to the 5:58 mark and onward

<iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/SDx9YEYK2yI" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

WoW this game has some really great looking animations. I especially like the catcher animations.

[bcruise]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Video - Dynamic Batting and Fielding Cameras (PS4)

One of those multiple topic threads I see. Lol

lol, Yeah. I at least tried to keep it on topic when I posted that video by utilizing the dynamic cameras (albeit on the PS3 version), but it's flown off the rails now.

[A_Quiet_Pro]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Video - Dynamic Batting and Fielding Cameras (PS4)

I'll have to find out about the Madden Mo-Caps articles later, unless you or anyone else has a direct link to it.

I guess I should bring up other previous video game baseball to illustrate better pitcher's follow through, whip motions, etc. I think most of the pitchers' in Proyakuu Spirits do show a more realistic follow through (e.g. strong follow through, force, speed, strong whip, strong leg kicks, the entire body into the pitch, etc. Pitching is about using the entire body....). Hopefully this shows that it can be done in a video game. The following are just random videos I found on youtube. I was hoping to see a more realistic change in the PS4 versions of the Show.

Well, short typed version..... Madden does their Mo-Cap at a big studio in Canada, then they gotta polish the captures and get the captures to where they want them (functionality wise)... THEN THAT info gets sent to Tiburon down in Florida and THEY work with the info to get the proper action and speed of motion for whatever they're working with for whatever they're trying to do with it.. Needless to say, it's a process. And I imagine the MoCap process for TS and SCEA:SD is no different.

[Blzer]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Video - Dynamic Batting and Fielding Cameras (PS4)

Well, short typed version..... Madden does their Mo-Cap at a big studio in Canada, then they gotta polish the captures and get the captures to where they want them (functionality wise)... THEN THAT info gets sent to Tiburon down in Florida and THEY work with the info to get the proper action and speed of motion for whatever they're working with for whatever they're trying to do with it.. Needless to say, it's a process. And I imagine the MoCap process for TS and SCEA:SD is no different.

Actually, I seem to remember that their San Diego studios has everything tight-nit, but they are in different buildings. Maybe I'm mixing mo-cap with something else like audio, but they have a whole lot (a center, that is) with different buildings devoted to different areas of the game.

[A_Quiet_Pro]

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Actually, I seem to remember that their San Diego studios has everything tight-nit, but they are in different buildings. Maybe I'm mixing mo-cap with something else like audio, but they have a whole lot (a center, that is) with different buildings devoted to different areas of the game.

I'm not really focusing on the different sites with my explanation. (It's easy to electronically transfer info), BUT I meant to focus on how after the captures are taken, it's a process to get them to be where the devs need them to be to work for the game.