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  • merchant1874
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    • Aug 2009
    • 1337

    #16
    Re: Official Uniform Error List

    Originally posted by bigwill33
    I don't think a lot of you have ever seen a style guide. I have worked with them for all 4 major sports and I can tell you that most of the time they are outdated or incorrect because the teams do not adhere to them or make changes that deviate from them.

    The actual purpose of the guide is to protect the brand. Teams and leagues want to ensure that when they sell their rights to use their likenesses or images on/in a product that they are being represented in the way that they have set forth as being agreed upon being used prior to a season starting.

    How it doesn't work is that teams do not have to adhere to the guide and can wear anything within the league guidelines, or with special approval of the league, during a game. Hence why you see camo, flag, retro, throwback, negro league, futuristic, and all kinds of special promotional jerseys on the field during a season in all leagues, especially minor leagues.

    This game would have to negotiate other ways to use any of those uniforms that are not actually in the style guide for MLB. That is the reason that things are not always matching what you see on the field, unfortunately. SCEA's hands are tied on this.
    Presumably as a previous poster has researched that majestic also has to follow the guide?

    Which means that the Mets road uniform must not have the black drop shadow in the guide in order to sell jerseys.

    Which then means if that black drop shadow is not in the guide then Sony san diego is in breach of the guide?

    As for dropping jereseys like the mets day home and Rays light blue which are regularly worn by both teams and were previously in the show. ....well those are just very, very questionable decisions by someone on the team.

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    • MrMet2488
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      • Nov 2013
      • 73

      #17
      Re: Official Uniform Error List

      Originally posted by Mets1986
      Not to mention their home whites are missing as compared to prior years. Don't know why they did that. That's their day game uniforms. In fact i don't think ANY with the exception of the pinstripe and away (which you accurately stated are wrong) are uniforms they actually use.

      Well, at least we have bat boys/ball boys....

      Huge troll move by SCEA in my opinion.

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      • Mets1986
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        • May 2014
        • 38

        #18
        Re: Official Uniform Error List

        Originally posted by MrMet2488
        Well, at least we have bat boys/ball boys....

        Huge troll move by SCEA in my opinion.
        You may be right who knows. Looking at their yearbooks the past few years, unless i'm missing something, they (the Mets) generally advertised for 2K. I didn't see any ads for The Show.

        I mean it was certainly not a "bug", it was purposeful according to what i've seen to make room for others (that they no longer use), which i think was such a mistake you would have to believe what you do, or that the people making that decision were Baseball novices, which i'm sure is not the case.

        I mean their home whites are IN the Style Guide, i don't think many people would disagree with that (i agree with their comments).

        It was an omission that are not going to make Met Fans very happy. However, i have to be honest, the longer i play 14, and notice so many other flaws, i seem to be spending more time on 13 anyhow.

        So, even if it was fixed, would it bring me back to 14 as a whole? Probably not. I use 14 for the player lock feature, but 13 is the game for me at this point.

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        • MrMet2488
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          • Nov 2013
          • 73

          #19
          Re: Official Uniform Error List

          Originally posted by Mets1986
          You may be right who knows. Looking at their yearbooks the past few years, unless i'm missing something, they (the Mets) generally advertised for 2K. I didn't see any ads for The Show.

          I mean it was certainly not a "bug", it was purposeful according to what i've seen to make room for others (that they no longer use), which i think was such a mistake you would have to believe what you do, or that the people making that decision were Baseball novices, which i'm sure is not the case.

          I mean their home whites are IN the Style Guide, i don't think many people would disagree with that (i agree with their comments).

          It was an omission that are not going to make Met Fans very happy. However, i have to be honest, the longer i play 14, and notice so many other flaws, i seem to be spending more time on 13 anyhow.

          So, even if it was fixed, would it bring me back to 14 as a whole? Probably not. I use 14 for the player lock feature, but 13 is the game for me at this point.

          The home white and the blue home and away jerseys are both part of the style guide...the black jerseys aren't in the style guide, yet they are in the game...SCEA can preach the style guide nonsense all they want but it's clear they haven't been following it.

          You can bet they would never take out one of the Yankees jerseys.

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          • Mets1986
            Banned
            • May 2014
            • 38

            #20
            Re: Official Uniform Error List

            Originally posted by MrMet2488
            The home white and the blue home and away jerseys are both part of the style guide...the black jerseys aren't in the style guide, yet they are in the game...SCEA can preach the style guide nonsense all they want but it's clear they haven't been following it.

            You can bet they would never take out one of the Yankees jerseys.
            Well in respect to SCEA or San Diego Studios, i don't think on THIS matter they are "preaching the style guide". That's individual posters giving their views (which as we know are inaccurate).

            I think the Developers made a "choice" to do what they did, no matter the style guide, and that's really the issue that only i feel the Mets are going to have to address, if they felt the need in whether their team is being accurately represented according to contracts and licensing agreements.

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            • WahooFan
              Rookie
              • Mar 2011
              • 40

              #21
              Re: Official Uniform Error List

              Just to update/inform about uniform errors/omissions, here are a few Cleveland Indians errors...

              1. Batting Helmets

              The Indians now have one batting helmet that they use for all home/away/weekend games. It is black with a red block "C." ...and while that red-blue block "C" in the game is spiffy, it doesn't actually exist...

              <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/73639651@N07/14275208004" title="BATTING HELMETS by Convoytron, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5273/14275208004_3691c7f7e6_z.jpg" width="640" height="362" alt="BATTING HELMETS"></a>


              2. Spring Training/Warmup Jersey Numbers

              The lettering and numbers on the back of the ST/warmup jerseys are blue with a white outline in reality. (these jerseys are hideous to begin with, no amount of fixing can make them look better... )

              <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/73639651@N07/14273583772" title="SPRING TRAINING JERSEYS by Convoytron, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5517/14273583772_a24baa604c_z.jpg" width="640" height="366" alt="SPRING TRAINING JERSEYS"></a>

              3. Alternate Home Uniform Accessories

              This is probably a style guide issue (no big deal) but I'll put it out there anyway (not in any way trying to start a style guide argument)... The Indians wear red socks and shirts with their cream alternate home uniforms, no longer do they sport the midnight navy blue accessories.

              <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/73639651@N07/14275651745" title="CREAM JERSEYS WITH RED SOCKS_SHIRTS by Convoytron, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2940/14275651745_89b5c5396d_z.jpg" width="640" height="536" alt="CREAM JERSEYS WITH RED SOCKS_SHIRTS"></a>

              I saw that someone mentioned the Indians '70s road uniforms were wrong, but they are actually correct in the game- they had both red and grey road pants they wore with the red top back then, so SDS got it right in-game. I love that they are in the game, and would love to maybe see the '48 or '64 unis in addition/in place of the old '20s uniforms that are currently in game.

              ...Random question though... What is the purpose of having Home/Away warmup hats/jerseys/pants in the game? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the hats and jerseys never change when playing home or away, just the pants. Would eliminating those extra slots open up room for more/different uniform options? Just genuinely curious, I had always wondered about this.

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              • Metroalex
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                • Nov 2004
                • 65

                #22
                Re: Official Uniform Error List

                That fake Indians "C" helmet is simply inexcusable. Likewise, why do the Mets have a fake Camo helmet?

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                • Mikeyo918
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                  • Oct 2010
                  • 530

                  #23
                  Re: Official Uniform Error List

                  The Marlins road grays do not existent. Since the new uni' s the Marlins have never worn them.
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                  • RedMeansGo2006
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                    • Jan 2014
                    • 139

                    #24
                    Re: Official Uniform Error List

                    Originally posted by Metroalex
                    That fake Indians "C" helmet is simply inexcusable. Likewise, why do the Mets have a fake Camo helmet?
                    So is the real "C" helmet.

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                    • cherman24
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 565

                      #25
                      Re: Official Uniform Error List

                      Originally posted by Mikeyo918
                      The Marlins road grays do not existent. Since the new uni' s the Marlins have never worn them.
                      The Marlins wore them in the first year and haven't since. Last year the only time they wore gray was with the camo writing for Memorial Day (I believe), but they have been non-existent for this and last year for sure.


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                      • darthfinkles
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 7

                        #26
                        Re: Official Uniform Error List

                        The White Sox uniforms are all pretty much wrong.

                        Home - Sox logo way too small, number on front of jersey way too high

                        Alternate 83's and all throwbacks all use the current black helmets, looks ridiculous.

                        The throwback 72's have a number on the front, the show's do not.

                        The throw back old have plain white paints, in reality the were pinstriped just like the jersey.

                        Please correct this for next year. I enjoy playing the throwback leagues people make and its not fun when you teams uniforms are so incorrect.

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                        • Syce
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1386

                          #27
                          Re: Official Uniform Error List

                          are the Cubs alternate uniforms suppose to be completely blank? they are grey but no symbol, no nothing on them, even the hats are just grey blank canvases.
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                          • Jibbler
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1001

                            #28
                            Re: Official Uniform Error List

                            The Indians completely wrong Helmet is a puzzling one. I mean if that helmet doesn't exist it makes you wonder where the hell they got that idea from?? if it is truly MLB fault. I read that the excuse is running out of room..... well then why not just get rid of the helmet that doesn't exist and replace it with the one that DOES exist. that solves the space problem!! and seeing as it doesn't exist how did that get approved by MLB in the first place!

                            I hate simple Uniform errors the worst are ones with the color and logo are completely wrong, I can forgive having something 1cm off or tiny things like that, but not a complete color and logo thing

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                            • reyes the roof
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 11526

                              #29
                              Re: Official Uniform Error List

                              The most frustrating thing for me with the Mets uniforms, is that you will see fans in the stands wearing the alternate white jersey that the Mets usually wear at home in the day and the alternate blue jersey, but they aren't selectable to use in a game. Also, I could do without the Mets "old" throwbacks. All they are is their current uniforms without names on the back

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                              • Jibbler
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                                • Jan 2011
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                                #30
                                Re: Official Uniform Error List

                                Originally posted by reyes the roof
                                The most frustrating thing for me with the Mets uniforms, is that you will see fans in the stands wearing the alternate white jersey that the Mets usually wear at home in the day and the alternate blue jersey, but they aren't selectable to use in a game. Also, I could do without the Mets "old" throwbacks. All they are is their current uniforms without names on the back
                                Yeah its a confusing one, and because they were in last years game I can't think of a reason why they are not this year... why would MLB now allowed them for this year? very strange, if MLB didn't allow them then they shouldn't be in the crowd either

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