Switch Pitcher: Pat Venditte

[cibo2]

Pat Venditte has been called up to AAA by the Yankees and right now he's at the top of their depth chart in terms of "lefty" relievers. Its starting to look like he might actually get called up if he has success in AAA or if Thornton gets injured/struggles.

My question is: what would SCEA do if he gets called up to the MLB? Could they put him in the game as a "switch pitcher" a la a switch hitter? It would really be unfortunate if he he had to be created as just a RHP or LHP.

[HighCmpPct]

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He would be though, if he did make it and actually established himself this year it would at least be next years game before they could implement the necessary additions to make it possible.

Either way though it's highly unlikely they do it anyway for just one non star player.

[cibo2]

Re: Switch Pitcher: Pat Venditte

He would be though, if he did make it and actually established himself this year it would at least be next years game before they could implement the necessary additions to make it possible.

Either way though it's highly unlikely they do it anyway for just one non star player.

I see what you're saying. I wonder from a technical standpoint though, how difficult it would be to give him realistic functionality. It would be really disappointing if, if he gets added to the game, to not be able to use him properly.

[MrOldboy]

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It could be as simple as him being set to LHP vs LHB, RHP vs RHB. But that would have to be for future games. Could be done, but is it worth it for one player that might not even stick in the MLB for 2015 and beyond (if he makes it this year)? I'd honestly say it isn't worth it from a customer perspective. There are more pressing matters imo.

[wolfpack23]

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I would think they would have him throwing both ways in the game. However, it wouldn't be implemented this year if he gets to the show and I think he would have to make a contribution to the Yankees bullpen for them to take the trouble to do it. I think one thing he has going for him is that he plays for the Yankees, as a result I think they will take their time on him. If he played for the A's he would throw from one side...no love.

[bfindeisen]

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This is not a criticism of the OP, but there are about a million other pressing issues that I'd rather see SCEA spend the money and man hours on that would otherwise be required to implement this.

[Greencollarbaseball]

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I would think they would have him throwing both ways in the game. However, it wouldn't be implemented this year if he gets to the show and I think he would have to make a contribution to the Yankees bullpen for them to take the trouble to do it. I think one thing he has going for him is that he plays for the Yankees, as a result I think they will take their time on him. If he played for the A's he would throw from one side...no love.

You mean like Donaldson only being rated a 68 on fielding... ok ok im done. Back on topic.

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[wolfpack23]

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You mean like Donaldson only being rated a 68 on fielding... ok ok im done. Back on topic.

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Just when my bitterness towards that subject goes away you have to bring it up! Haha but in all seriousness he is leading baseball in WAR and is right up there in all of the defensive metrics.

[ShaBoomer]

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Just when my bitterness towards that subject goes away you have to bring it up! Haha but in all seriousness he is leading baseball in WAR and is right up there in all of the defensive metrics.

We probably shouldn't hijack the thread, but are you talking about Josh Donaldson (3B)?

[wolfpack23]

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We probably shouldn't hijack the thread, but are you talking about Josh Donaldson (3B)?

Yes, we sure are.

[ShaBoomer]

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Yes, we sure are.

And what's the problem? Although a 62 is a little low, it's not off by much. He has a career FLD% of .955 (currently .952, or #258), and a dWAR of only 1.5 (2+ is considered good for a starter).

His dWAR last season wasn't even good enough to land him in the top 10 (Pedroia was #10 with 2.2)

I've adjusted his fielding rating to 68 in The Show, and he's currently a .948 fielder, which is pretty spot on.

[wolfpack23]

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And what's the problem? Although a 62 is a little low, it's not off by much. He has a career FLD% of .955 (currently .952, or #258), and a dWAR of only 1.5 (2+ is considered good for a starter).

His dWAR last season wasn't even good enough to land him in the top 10 (Pedroia was #10 with 2.2)

I've adjusted his fielding rating to 68 in The Show, and he's currently a .948 fielder, which is pretty spot on.

I agree with you on that. However, when you look at him compared to the other third basemen he is a bit undervalued. This season he has the best RF/9 out of all MLB third basemen. He also leads all third basemen in defensive runs saved (last season he was 3rd behind Machado and Longoria). If you watch Donaldson play a large portion of his miscues are of the throwing variety not the fielding variety. However, in a videogame it is hard to replicate throwing errors in user played games so they had to drop him somewhere. This conversation is not geared towards what he is doing this season since that doesn't reflect in his ratings. So in the end, shout out to ShaBoomer for the great points.


Also a correction from my earlier post since I was lazy and didn't do any research he is 2nd in MLB in WAR. 1st in the AL in that category.

[ShaBoomer]

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I agree with you on that. However, when you look at him compared to the other third basemen he is a bit undervalued. This season he has the best RF/9 out of all MLB third basemen. He also leads all third basemen in defensive runs saved (last season he was 3rd behind Machado and Longoria). If you watch Donaldson play a large portion of his miscues are of the throwing variety not the fielding variety. However, in a videogame it is hard to replicate throwing errors in user played games so they had to drop him somewhere. This conversation is not geared towards what he is doing this season since that doesn't reflect in his ratings. So in the end, shout out to ShaBoomer for the great points.


Also a correction from my earlier post since I was lazy and didn't do any research he is 2nd in MLB in WAR. 1st in the AL in that category.

I agree, he is a very good defender. And I'm sure his numbers will get better over time as he plays more (he doesn't have enough games played at 3B yet to qualify for a lot of official lists). Also, who knows how many advanced metrics are a factor in what happens in the game.

As a side note, is there any kind of guide to explain how the ratings work? What I mean is, when I raise/lower a rating how much impact is that having?

When I make adjustments I tend to use increments of 2 or 5, play/sim a week, and check to see what's changed. Sometimes it's really hard to tell, especially for defensive stats.

I also check the weekly roster updates and weekly stats to see what the official changes are. There's too many players to keep track of them all, but I try and keep the AL in line as best I can.

[ShaBoomer]

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Also, to get back on to the thread topic...

What I initially wanted to say in this post was I'm also curious to see how Venditte is handled in upcoming versions of The Show. I think it would be cool to have the ability to be a switch pitcher.

I guess the MLB would have to create the same rule as MiLB did.

[wolfpack23]

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I agree, he is a very good defender. And I'm sure his numbers will get better over time as he plays more (he doesn't have enough games played at 3B yet to qualify for a lot of official lists). Also, who knows how many advanced metrics are a factor in what happens in the game.

As a side note, is there any kind of guide to explain how the ratings work? What I mean is, when I raise/lower a rating how much impact is that having?

When I make adjustments I tend to use increments of 2 or 5, play/sim a week, and check to see what's changed. Sometimes it's really hard to tell, especially for defensive stats.

I also check the weekly roster updates and weekly stats to see what the official changes are. There's too many players to keep track of them all, but I try and keep the AL in line as best I can.

I think if you go in the rosters thread on the last gen for the OSFM rosters there is a spreadsheet on ratings calculations. I personally tend to not touch my players ratings during the season so I don't know how those would correlate. I would think on the defensive side that reaction is everything when it comes to the ability for a player to get to a ball and then fielding kicks in when it comes to catching the ball. I have messed around with offensive ratings before in past editions and noticed that the game is very streak oriented. If a player is cold, raising their ratings will not make a big difference in the short term but over the duration of the season it may play a large role in their overall stats.