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  • Cavicchi
    MVP
    • Mar 2004
    • 2841

    #1

    Kershaw and Trout regressing?

    I'm at April 12, 2014 in my franchise and checked Kershaw and Trout's attributes to see how they're doing. I was quite surprised to see Kershaw lost one point off stamina, one point off the break on his curveball and changeup. He is 25 years old in the game and just don't understand why that should happen.

    Trout lost one point off Reaction. I don't understand that either, him being just 22 years old in the game. So we have two 99's regressing, however slight that may be, the point is why should it happen at all? I'm the Dodgers and have been pitching with Kershaw. He has not allowed a run and pitched well.

    Both these players are young and this makes no sense at all to me.
  • extremeskins04
    That's top class!
    • Aug 2010
    • 3864

    #2
    Re: Kershaw and Trout regressing?

    Maybe they're performing poorly on their teams in the franchise. Like it's possible Trout is missing a few flyballs in the game and he's lost 1 reaction point cause of it.

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    • ShaBoomer
      Rookie
      • May 2014
      • 154

      #3
      Re: Kershaw and Trout regressing?

      Originally posted by Cavicchi
      I'm at April 12, 2014 in my franchise and checked Kershaw and Trout's attributes to see how they're doing. I was quite surprised to see Kershaw lost one point off stamina, one point off the break on his curveball and changeup. He is 25 years old in the game and just don't understand why that should happen.

      Trout lost one point off Reaction. I don't understand that either, him being just 22 years old in the game. So we have two 99's regressing, however slight that may be, the point is why should it happen at all? I'm the Dodgers and have been pitching with Kershaw. He has not allowed a run and pitched well.

      Both these players are young and this makes no sense at all to me.
      Do you have your training set up properly? If you don't train them properly, everyone's stats will regress.

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      • Cavicchi
        MVP
        • Mar 2004
        • 2841

        #4
        Re: Kershaw and Trout regressing?

        Originally posted by extremeskins04
        Maybe they're performing poorly on their teams in the franchise. Like it's possible Trout is missing a few flyballs in the game and he's lost 1 reaction point cause of it.
        I said in my post above Kershaw had not allowed a run. As for Trout, he has not committed any errors and with auto fielding on, if he does miss a ball, we know who made that happen ;-)

        Originally posted by ShaBoomer
        Do you have your training set up properly? If you don't train them properly, everyone's stats will regress.
        I control all 30 teams and training is set to auto.

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        • ShaBoomer
          Rookie
          • May 2014
          • 154

          #5
          Re: Kershaw and Trout regressing?

          Originally posted by Cavicchi
          I said in my post above Kershaw had not allowed a run. As for Trout, he has not committed any errors and with auto fielding on, if he does miss a ball, we know who made that happen ;-)



          I control all 30 teams and training is set to auto.
          Auto-training alone won't stop players from regressing. Auto-training simply chooses one area that the CPU thinks your player needs to improve or maintain, and trains on that.

          If you check through each of your 30 teams, you'll probably find that a lot of players are regressing in areas where they aren't being trained.

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          • Cavicchi
            MVP
            • Mar 2004
            • 2841

            #6
            Re: Kershaw and Trout regressing?

            Originally posted by ShaBoomer
            Auto-training alone won't stop players from regressing. Auto-training simply chooses one area that the CPU thinks your player needs to improve or maintain, and trains on that.

            If you check through each of your 30 teams, you'll probably find that a lot of players are regressing in areas where they aren't being trained.
            Oh, c'mon, Trout and Kershaw need training when they're playing every day? I don't have any other players regressing. Well, not Kershaw (playing every day) but he's not allowed a run.

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            • ShaBoomer
              Rookie
              • May 2014
              • 154

              #7
              Re: Kershaw and Trout regressing?

              Originally posted by Cavicchi
              Oh, c'mon, Trout and Kershaw need training when they're playing every day? I don't have any other players regressing. Well, not Kershaw (playing every day) but he's not allowed a run.
              Well for one, Kershaw plays every 5 days. And yes, players train every day. Tweet Trout and ask him yourself.

              And I seriously doubt that out of 750 active players, those two are the only ones regressing.

              Also, keep in mind that a -1 regression is almost meaningless. When one of them drops to a 85 overall, then you might have a problem.

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              • extremeskins04
                That's top class!
                • Aug 2010
                • 3864

                #8
                Re: Kershaw and Trout regressing?

                Originally posted by Cavicchi
                Oh, c'mon, Trout and Kershaw need training when they're playing every day? I don't have any other players regressing. Well, not Kershaw (playing every day) but he's not allowed a run.
                Actually he does have a point. You still HAVE to train players and you shouldn't be setting it to Auto because the system will train players in stupid areas like they'll train a 1B in Arm Strength or something, or they'll train a pitcher in arm strength and arm accuracy.

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                • ShaBoomer
                  Rookie
                  • May 2014
                  • 154

                  #9
                  Re: Kershaw and Trout regressing?

                  Originally posted by extremeskins04
                  Actually he does have a point. You still HAVE to train players and you shouldn't be setting it to Auto because the system will train players in stupid areas like they'll train a 1B in Arm Strength or something, or they'll train a pitcher in arm strength and arm accuracy.
                  Yeah, it really does train on some odd things. It's also possible to still regress on stats that you're training on as well. I usually take it as a sign that they've been training in that area for too long.

                  I use 30-team control, and have 28 teams set to auto and the 2 teams I play with I control manually. I would do them all manually except it takes way too much time.

                  I train each player in a specific area for 1 week, and then change it up.

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                  • Will I Am
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 927

                    #10
                    Re: Kershaw and Trout regressing?

                    Sounds to me like this training business is something that needs reworking, can you simply turn it off?

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                    • Cavicchi
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 2841

                      #11
                      Re: Kershaw and Trout regressing?

                      Originally posted by ShaBoomer
                      Well for one, Kershaw plays every 5 days. And yes, players train every day. Tweet Trout and ask him yourself.

                      And I seriously doubt that out of 750 active players, those two are the only ones regressing.

                      Also, keep in mind that a -1 regression is almost meaningless. When one of them drops to a 85 overall, then you might have a problem.
                      And when Trout is out with say an injury for maybe even a week he's going to lose fielding ability in real baseball, right? Or say Tulowitski who is often out is less of a fielder than he was before?

                      I've seen this same exact occurrence with both Kershaw and Trout in my franchise last year. I've read someone else say Trout regressed in his franchise while still in his twenties.

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                      • Cavicchi
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 2841

                        #12
                        Re: Kershaw and Trout regressing?

                        Originally posted by Will I Am
                        Sounds to me like this training business is something that needs reworking, can you simply turn it off?
                        The only choice is you do it or set on Auto.

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                        • ShaBoomer
                          Rookie
                          • May 2014
                          • 154

                          #13
                          Re: Kershaw and Trout regressing?

                          Originally posted by Will I Am
                          Sounds to me like this training business is something that needs reworking, can you simply turn it off?
                          I think it's meant to provide balance during a season or franchise. It allows players to have some "ups and downs".

                          No matter the player, they aren't a superstar every day. Every one has a bad day, bad week, bad month. Even Mike Trout. What makes Trout such a great player is that his bad days are still better than a lot of other player's good days. Same with Kershaw.

                          I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it can be turned off.

                          From the mouth of Kershaw himself, after his last start (1 2/3 innings, 18-7 loss to Arizona):

                          "You're allowed to have bad days, but those have to be salvaged," he said. "You've got to save your bullpen. You've got to at least get through five or six [innings] on bad days, so yeah, you're allowed to, but not like this."

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                          • Cavicchi
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 2841

                            #14
                            Re: Kershaw and Trout regressing?

                            Originally posted by ShaBoomer
                            I think it's meant to provide balance during a season or franchise. It allows players to have some "ups and downs".

                            No matter the player, they aren't a superstar every day. Every one has a bad day, bad week, bad month. Even Mike Trout. What makes Trout such a great player is that his bad days are still better than a lot of other player's good days. Same with Kershaw.

                            I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it can be turned off.

                            From the mouth of Kershaw himself, after his last start (1 2/3 innings, 18-7 loss to Arizona):

                            "You're allowed to have bad days, but those have to be salvaged," he said. "You've got to save your bullpen. You've got to at least get through five or six [innings] on bad days, so yeah, you're allowed to, but not like this."
                            He had a bad day but how much of being out with that injury had to do with it is up in the air, and I'm sure he had training before coming back.

                            What they should do is remove this training thing or make it work properly.

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                            • rjackson
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 1661

                              #15
                              Re: Kershaw and Trout regressing?

                              Taining has nothing to do with it. Just make sure that their potential is 99.

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